Critical Role vs Vox Machina animated series: Let Them Fight ( Vorugal vs Yenk )

[@grahamkristensen9301]

Whoever's idea it was to have Yenk give Vorugal the Stone Cold Stunner: Thank you.

[@kitchumz4308]

100% going with Travis on this one. Leave it to a Texan to pay homage to the Texas Rattlesnake

[@Thundarr100]

I totally didn't catch that my first time watching this episode. I didn't catch it until just now. That was totally awesome. Now all we need is good ol' JR to shout "Stunner! Stunner! Stunner! Good God almighty! With God as my witness, he's broken him in half!"

[@e-manmartr_1875]

Pretty appropriate for the Ice Dragon to get hit with the Stone Cold Stunner. I remember sitting up in bed and freaking out like "WHAT THE HELL"

[@Drail2089]

Name of the song is Stone Cold Beast Brawl lol. AND GUESS WHAT THE SONG IS BASED OFF OF?!?

[@sphinx3749]

then Vorugal hit bro with a piledriver/suplex

[@B1izzardHawk]

Funnily enough, Yenk got the last laugh. Vorugal may have killed him, but that just banished him back to the hells. Vorugal's death is permanent.

[@andyenglish4303]

technically it should send him back to the abyss

[@kevinn3438]

I mean…he’s got to report his failure now. He might be wishing he was dead for an eternity or ten.

[@B1izzardHawk]

@kevinn3438 depends how understanding he is. It's one thing to get killed by a band of adventurers, it's another to fight an ancient white dragon

[@Mattsimilate]

@@andyenglish4303 The show's setting is Exandria, not Faerún. Things might work differently there. (I actually don't know, it is just a thought)

[@BrasilBorba1]

@@Mattsimilate Nah, the layers of hell are the same in every plane right? From Faerun to Krynn the same rules apply, thats why you can go to the city of sigil from any of those campaigns worlds.

[@rotsenmerecido5334]

That stunner is well executed

[@knightofavalon86]

I love that Voragul's show design has clearly taken some cues from Godzilla. They clearly had this fight in mind

[@Dcart5]

I wonder why they didn't include the fact that Pike succeced on Divine Intervention in the fight where goddess punched down from heaven.

[@albertds6330]

Divine interventions are great ingame, but on a series where you control the narrative, the audience can perceive it as a cheap way to make something happen. Besides, pike is an a arch where there's distance growing between her and the everlight, they may save a divine interention-like moment for a more crucial part of the story and to represent a rekindling with the everlight I guess.

[@crystallxix1493]

As mentioned, most likely they're setting it up for her to rekindle her own faith for the fight against Thordak and call upon the Everlight there

[@pendrake40]

Some context and scaling to this battle, for those less D&D familiar/fluent... *:)* 1.) *_D&D Rules Scaling..._* - a.) *Player Levels -* By basic D&D standards, Player level scale from 01 to 20. - b.) *Challenge Rating (CR) -* In D&D, monsters are scaled by their *_Challenge Rating (CR)._* The CR [number] is the scale for 4-6 Players of that level-[number] to effectively fight/defeat that monster. So a CR 12 monster is generally scaled for a (4-6) group of level 12 Players. The CR [number] can go *HIGHER* than (level) 20, for scaling Epic-tier adversaries, such as arch-devils, demon princes, elemental lords, ancient eldritch horrors, a god's physically-manifested avatar, etc. 2.) *_Critical Role Scaling_** --* So with the *[CR 1x71 - "Vorugal"]* play-session, and the *[LoVM 3x05 - "The Frigid Wastes"]* episode, the scaling is... - a.) Vox Machina (VXM) = level 15 average, Small creatures (gnomes) and Medium creatures (dwarves, goliaths, half-elves, humans) take up 1 map-spare each - b.) Vorugal, the Frigid Doom; male ancient white dragon = CR 20, Vorugal was a Gargantuan dragon, taking up 4x4 map-squares - c.) Yenk; male demon (Goristo) = CR 17, Yenk was a Huge demon, taking up 3x3. map-squares 3.) *_Vorugal vs. Yenk (vs. VXM)_** --* So while Yenk (17) was powerful enough to battle Vorugal (20), Yenk was not powerful enough to defeat Vorugal alone. But as VXM's (15) intent/hope was that Vorugal and Yenk would kill each other, or at least both be damaged enough for VXM to finish either/both off, it (obviously) worked out for VXM. *;)* Thanks for uploading this, *555smo.* :)

[@sharmelfattakhov5041]

I would point out that their CR might not be exactly by the book as they're both seemingly have more hp compared to their book counterparts but great comment anyway)

[@pendrake40]

@@sharmelfattakhov5041 -- Thank you kindly. *:)* Likewise, you are correct. Rather obviously, media translation from D&D 5e books to animation screen will rarely (if ever) be exact. An additional (separate) factor, with Critical Role play-sessions, Matt Mercer (the Dungeon Master) often changes (pre-session) the stats/HP of named bosses. This is so the CR-cast, whom were veteran D&D players even before Critical Role began broadcasting/livestreaming in 2015 (the home-game began in 2010), does not take down the named boss(es) in just 1-2 combat rounds.

[@Lngbrdninjamasta]

"Yenk, u will b our friend. Coming thru the portal & back again. U r pure of heart. Ur a fiend and a confidant." -Scan-man ❤

[@awkwardaquamarine19]

I can't wait for the next episode. In the campaign, Keyleth's vestige, the Spire of Conflux, is inside Yenk's stomach when he devoured the last wielder. I wonder if they will find it in the next episode.

[@OliverSierraW]

Sadly not

[@awkwardaquamarine19]

@@OliverSierraW Aw, shame. Still, I can't wait to see the next episode and what changes they made in the narrative.

[@jacobbarnes8695]

off to glintshore....

[@hhylobates4098]

Theres a theory that Vaxs super speed kinda makes Whisper redundant, so Ripley might have the staff

[@awkwardaquamarine19]

@@hhylobates4098 Interesting, but I can see it too. Maybe the show combined Deathwalker's Ward with Whisper because having 2 vestiges, while the others only get 1 each, does make Vax more OP that he already is as a rogue character.

[@dealinginfiction]

What happened in the animated show is what was going on in Matt's head. Also.... in game, I would have bet on the dragon.b what does everyone else think? Would you have bet on the dragon or the demon?

[@dealinginfiction]

STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN

[@zacharybartolo5111]

I had my money on the demon.

[@AdelAribi-c5n]

I was positive Vorugal would defeat the demon.

[@animanco6833]

6:12: Fatality Vorugal Wins

[@oddacity5883]

Would’ve loved to see grog gore that demon, but the animated version ain’t bad at all

[@lordronn472]

This was so epic! I hope the show gets renewed for season 4

[@dezaina9961]

"oh my god he's huge!" not the first time scanlan said that.

[@-Commit-arson-]

That was such a cool moment where the Demon entered the dragons mouth specifically to rip his tongue out with his teeth I always forget that demons are brutality fighters

[@MegaKain101]

Just saw that fight. It had me yelling when Yank showed up with that music. "BAH GOD ITS YANK!"

[@hhylobates4098]

The fight was really cool, letting Yenk and Vorugal have a longer battle was an improvement. But one major thing I cant like is that this was supposed to be Vexs solo kill, a hugely significant moment in her life as a _dragon hunter_ and in her arc with Fenthras. Making it a combo with Keyleth just to somehow get a tree undermines that, if the bow can suddenly shoot fireballs without explanation then why cant it have its main unique feature? We can assume this means its something it will never do, and so theres another noteworthy tree coming up soon that probably wont exist.

[@hhylobates4098]

Alright now the season done I can say it was an even worse decision that it appears; they didn't give Vex her other major moment against the dragons of breaking Thordaks crystal, giving that to Pike instead, and Vexs only "significant" contribution to the final battles against the dragons being the emotional scene of convincing her father to send the Syngorn soldiers... When her father as ambassador isn't even in charge of the army, and season 2 said they were going to fight the dragons anyway. And while she did get to kill Ripley, her one real win, there was no tree from Fenthras left to mark the occasion, to mirror the Whitestone tree that Scanlan carved into her forehead. And they _still_ had to undermine the moment even more by having Vex point out the obvious "Woe is me, the group should have been here :(" You made the choices for it to happen this way, Vex and writers room. Don't point out flaws in your story and act like it was inevitable.

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

Good edit!

[@crowtsoff]

Well, Scanlan lost 5 gold.

[@zedbee2736]

Although the fight itself was by-far better than the campaign version (though it would be nice to see Vorugal land even *one* blast of ice, i don't know how many he missed this episode), I think all the context surrounding the fight is sorely missed. Yenk was a crucial part of their plan, they very intentionally summoned and dominated him to get his aid in the fight, and the fact that he had a Vestige made it all the crazier that they managed to pull it off. Not to mention losing Pike's Divine Intervention, and Raishan aiding in the fight and getting one hell of a cold one-liner on him as she ripped out his throat. Hopefully that translates to the Thordak fight, instead.

[@yeahboy172]

Yeah it really pissed me off like how did you miss from that distance

[@sirshrafle1607]

I don't understand why they keep making badass Scanlan moments into just random happenstance and lucky chance. Both his summoning here and the Scanbo episode

[@PunishedSnakeV]

Yenk the goat

[@jeffzamos9667]

Question, in the actual campaign, does Kima actuall hit Vorugal in the eye? It just seems like such a bitch move. Hes already dying and immobilized. Better hit him just for fun.

[@Nihil-2005]

Not to my knowledge. That being said, I can understand why Kima did that - she had to evade Vorugal solo until her backup arrived, and nearly got caught by him several times in the process. Between getting pissed off at being singled out, generally being hot-headed, and her vow as a paladin of Bahamut (who is a defender of law and good, and mortal enemy of chromatic dragons like the Chroma Conclave), giving him a finishing blow is definitely up her alley.

[@hhylobates4098]

Like the other comment says, she kinda earned it after being chased around for so long. In the campaign they set up an ambush and fought him on the spot, and she actually didnt do much to him once he was hovering above the battlefield, instead left to fight Yenk on the ground. Raishan was there helping, and while Vex still got the killing blow that dropped him from the sky, as he was dying Raishan got a final word in "When you see Thordak on the otherside, tell him it was worth it" before she tore out his throat.

[@ziimulhah3223]

I mean, he's also a Chaotic Evil Ancient Dragon who was just stalking her like a mouse. I think she deserves her bitch moves.