CRKT Chogan & Kangee Tomahawks

In field testing and review of the CRKT Kangee spike tomahawk. On location in WY, we see it cuts afters an in-shop resharpening by myself. Light on POU, we concentrate on the cut here and I draw some brief conclusions. I'd like to post a lot more of this type of review here so if it's watched a lot you'll see more!/////////////////Nutnfancy CRKT Kangee Likability Scale: 6 out of 10, Chogan Likability Scale: 7.5 out of 10

[@crkt]

Hey Nutnfancy - Thank you for your honest review of CRKT tools. While a few of the main points you communicated in this video we've only heard the feedback as one offs, know that I've spoken with product development about your concerns and know that we continue to appreciate your presence and feedback in the marketplace. We always look forward to viewing your reviews. - Joel Bornzin - CRKT Marketing Manager

[@USPatriot556]

Good to see a manufacturer/marketing guy sliding in on this "B" channel review, commenting on a somewhat critical video. Seeing this really raises your credibility. If this sees an update I would definitely be in. I don't know how much input RMJ gave on these hawks but I think they would agree that this model could stand a little tune up. I d I don't mind doing some mods or upgrades on my stuff but wouldn't it be nice to be the brand that goes above and beyond?

[@RichAllfieldnohit]

***** Yup, I liked that too. It means better products for all of us. Nutnfancy = the betterment of all survival tools.

[@desulv]

CRKT OFFICIAL please don't do what cold steel did with the allen bolt. But I would really like to see a lightweight hammer poll hawk from CRKT.

[@droilag8998]

+desulv ^^^^^

[@brianmccann666]

desulv ... Like the CRKT Chogan Hawk ?? Or more like the cs Trail Hawk ?

[@pnw_machinist]

I love those opening shots just silently looking at that beautiful landscape!

[@Trevlee74]

The handle is slippery because of the stupid varnish they put on them. Sand it off, and use proper boiled linseed oil.

[@CkeckThatYetithe2nd]

Trevor Hollibaugh i hear echo of Wranglerstar in that statement:)

[@blonderzigeuner1]

Wranglerstar shout come out with his boiled linseed oil brand xD He sold thousends of gallons of that stuff and didn't see a dime. The varnish gives you blisters too.

[@michaelstjohn6086]

Trevor Hollibaugh proper, smdh

[@The_Saxon_of_Riverstone]

I bought one with the hammer, I am going sand it down

[@jman3110]

I've been waiting for this video, I knew it had to be in the works. I have the Chogan, and I love it for the price. I sanded the handle to fit my fingers and definitely had to sharpen the edge (before sharpening it was a child's play-toy). The head was, and still is, tight against the handle, even after a good thumping. Great vid!

[@davidreiner2494]

Good God Man! Now I am considering a tomahawk purchase in the very near future.....thank you, thank my lack of willpower, thanks for the excellent channel and reviews.

[@corensam]

I love this area of the mountains... so beautiful! Loving it nutn

[@trixp5]

VIVA LA TNP!!! Keep up the good work Nutn, you are much appreciated for all you do for all us!!!

[@MoreAmerican]

Love the vid. Love the topic! Keep it up Nutn :(

[@muddog1561]

I took the set screw out of my CS hawks and threw them away, there just going to tear out anyway so what's the point in them. I like the Woods Chogan a lot better than my CS hawks. I don't see the problem about putting an edge on any tool. It's going to have to be done eventually anyway.

[@45422]

Yep.

[@FOGHORNNC]

I get what you're saying .. I just like the style of it... So won't a lighter tomahawk take more effort to cut with? (Even if it's sharpened properly.)

[@jkamp]

Glad to see the video. I am glad that they did not use that silly allen bolt on the head like CS does. I removed mine and sanded/properly tapered the handle on the trail hawk and pipe hawk so it locks up tight but is easy to remove. That makes it much more flexible in my opinion. I've been looking at these CRKT models. I think for the money, if I want a hawk that size, the CS Rifelman's hawk is probably a better option.

[@t328]

Great hawk but I think the scabbard should come w it from the get go what do you think?

[@TandTWilderness]

where can I find a sheath like that for mine?

[@Jarhead6]

Good vid!

[@davidmillis954]

Like the hook its like a pickaroon for grabbing wood. It would be handy for dealing with firewood the axe edge for removing a missed limb.

[@cattafin]

Axes and hawks actually drop in efficiency relative to energy used to swing them. They chop much better when they are basically falling under their own weight with very small additional help. It is also very dangerous to swing so hard and out of real control not to mention a huge waste of energy reserves.

[@fearthespear4242]

Not when it's a light hawk'

[@unimog875]

what brand pants are those?

[@Lunumbrus]

Keep in mind that a lot of the people using and customizing Cold Steel's t-hawks are actually removing the set screw, and just fitting the shaft to the head properly. That set screw just chews a rut in your shaft, weakening it. can get great fit and function without.

[@nohandlesavailable677]

I would have never thought Nutn would wear deck shoes.

[@connorjohnson7928]

Where can you find the sheath?

[@madpunty8571]

For the head, it helps to loosen the head, and then bevel the handle and tighten the head again. What happens is sometimes a ridge forms on the handle which prevents the head from tightening, it needs a wedge without the ridge.

[@johnbrice9011]

hey nutn, I hear that the CRKT Kangee with handle slabs around a full tang construction, is super duper amazing. They're a bit heavy (1.84 pounds) but really packs a HUGE punch. great chopper.

[@ChaplainJoe1]

Tomahawks are not woods tools and the handle is loose by design. When thrown the handle is meant to disengage and slide to prevent breakage on bad throws. Tomahawk is primarily a fighting combat weapon.

[@muddog1561]

ChaplainJoe1 the tomahawk was a woods tool before it was used as a weapon. It was a weapon of necessity not by design.

[@ChaplainJoe1]

Florida Wilderness Bushcraft Note that I spoke in the present tense and about modern tomahawks, making no mention of the tool's historical usage nor make any comparison to the modern hatchet.

[@muddog1561]

ChaplainJoe1 but, they are still woods tools even today. As this is a great woods tool. A saw will always be better than a chopper. A heavy Tomahawk will always be a better choice than a light one, and an excellent woods tool, just like a big knife is an excellent choice for woods tool.

[@ChaplainJoe1]

Just because someone uses a tool for a purpose, does not make that it's intended purpose. I'm not going to get into the archeological record of the history and evolution of tools. My post was only intended to point out the differences in a modern tomahawk to a modern hatchet in the way the handle is designed to prevent breakage when throwing in an attempt to help users of the tool to understand why they are made the way they are made. There are dozens of so called tomahawks on the market that are nothing more than ineffective hatchets, not intended to be thrown but are minimally effective in various roles though not the most effective tool for most of the tasks they are used for. I never argued the usefulness of tomahawk in any role and I'm having a hard time understanding why you feel the need to argue a point with me that I never tried to counterpoint in the first place. Before I became disabled I was a blade dealer and I've handled thousands of edged weapons so I fully understand the intended uses of each of them, their evolution through time and how each one performs in various roles. If you need attention or outside verification and validation of your perceived self expertise or self aggrandizement, I'd appreciate it if you sought it elsewhere and stopped trifling me and causing my notifications to alert me of a pointless and needless conversation. Unlike many KZbinrs, I have a real life where I actually do stuff instead of troll the internet looking for reasons to interject myself into conversations and pointless arguments with people who clearly lack the experience or wisdom on any given subject, just to make myself feel important or appear to be something I'm not. My education and area of expertise is Christian education and theology and that is where I choose to spend my time and effort and I don't use nutnfancy's comment section to try to gain viewers on my own channel. Might I suggest you have some integrity and do the same. Have a nice day. Conversation terminated.

[@lorisb1513]

ChaplainJoe1 I agree.

[@PHXGlock]

I'm still at the Edge of my seat waiting to see how the 1190 did with the new intake on the Dyno

[@IamProFish]

Awesome!

[@YouMockMe]

Anyone........is this any better than Cold Steel? Lookin at the Spike Hawk in particular

[@dwcarc]

This tomahawk is on the heavy side and the one I got came with a very loose handle. I replaced the handle, at my own expense because CRKT and SMKW offered a warranty return only, and now keep it in my garage as a garden tool

[@tomwilson7202]

Great job, Nutn! I think the reason factory Hawks always come with a dull edge is fear of liability if someone gets hurt with a sharp tool. You know how society loves to litigate any imagined offense. Personal responsibility for properly using tools is no longer PC...gotta blame someone for the ineptitude of the untrained masses.

[@starpuss]

I like the Raw Type Vidz like this better then the "Full" Video :)

[@leemcgann6470]

The tomahawk is designed for ease of replacement of the handle& so that all you had to do is give is a smack on any hard surface to tighten it. Mine came super tight. It probably got bounced loose in transit.

[@starpuss]

Almost every one I seen (Local) Had the handle like that , I always fit it the way you did on the shop floor lol.

[@Mav8887.]

Best hawks for the money in my opinion. CRKT!

[@adamk1846]

Most production hawks come "less than sharp" to avoid potential lawsuits from people hurting themselves with the axes in stores. Sad, but true. I own a CRKT woods chogan and love it! Yes, the handle need a little finishing, and the edge needs a good sharpening, but, for the pricepoint, a great bush/camp hawk. JMHO. Also, the easily removable head means that it can be used as a wedge, a pushcut knife, or even replace the handle in the feild. (A fact of most hammer poll hawks.)

[@Nakanokalronin]

You shouldn't leave the set screws in the Cold Steel hawks. Putting all the impact onto the screw that sits in a small hole in the screw is a good way to brake the handle. People that have used them for years take the set screws out and toss them asap.

[@74Hobbes]

Great review! Reminds me of my Riflemanhawk with the slick grip, wobbly head and chinsy out of the box edge. I'll take my RTAK-II any day of the week for the same jobs. Thanks bro!

[@toddklekotka3340]

I just received my CRKT chogan woods hawk yesterday. It had an okay edge. After some work with the stone, it damn near shaves. The head was tight, everything else was good. The handle is a little slick, but due to the polyurethane coating. Either add some athletic tape or sand the handle down. I would grove the handle for grip if you plan on removing the head easier. The hawk performed well in Tac's review, all factory no touch ups.

[@brianmccann666]

... Tactical !!! Dude is great. Awww Yeah.

[@toddklekotka3340]

All real, No bullshit. Tactical is awesome!

[@leemcgann6470]

You can also pack other tools that that can be used on the same handle. The hawk is a traditional design that is made for simplicity. I the set screw will tear up the handle shaft. I like the CRTK way over the cold steel!

[@edwardgomez3633]

The heads on a tomahawk with wood handle are always loose. You need to file, sand & pound with rubber mallet to get it seated.

[@sheepdog94]

Nutn for most efficient cutting according to wranglerstar, an experienced woodsman. The cutting area should be twice the diameter of the tree, when chopping.

[@JCrook1028]

motosheep Aim matters too. You can tell Nutn is a knife guy cause he sucks with any type of axe.

[@johnrobinson4939]

The difference in your crkt and mine was in price and sharpness mine would shave the hair completely off your arms , and as far as the looseness in the head it clearly states in the information leaflet to reset the head.

[@danielgrippe2978]

Condor T&K makes a poll hawk for about $60 but it comes with the sheath and it weighs about a pound less than the CRKT. I know you have used some of Condors stuff, you should give it a go, you may like it way better.

[@666freak999]

good on ya m8

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

I don't like the tomahawk with a straight handle I think it needs to have a swell at the bottom

[@christianc8675]

If you would suck less it would be much easier. Ha. Did the handle come varnished?

[@Gerrari27]

Why don't you try the Steel Kangee, its lighter, although it is more expensive, would buy that instead of the wood one.

[@moonlightsoldier8443]

First problem if your using a tomahawk with two hands your using it wrong the tomahawk draws its power from speed if it feels like its going to fly out of your hand your swinging right

[@MoreAmerican]

Oops That was supposed to be a smile lol :)

[@angelcastro4793]

Love me some Nutn...Wait! Wha?!

[@moonlightsoldier8443]

Cross cutting... those trees are dreid abd seasoned which would make it a harder cut but generally anything the size mabe a little bigger then a wrist you sould be able to cut with a one handed swing 90% woth a single swing

[@kevinthurman2758]

Go all wranglerstar on it and sand the varnish off then oil the handle.

[@stratiusrex5908]

My chogan’s handle was so tight that it seemed pressed on.

[@heyoldtime8969]

All axe and hawk handles need to be sanded to fit the head securely .

[@hossler2714]

you need to fit the handle to the head. you may have to trim some with a knife, or I always use sandpaper .

[@getfoz]

Should check out wranglerstar about axes, maintaines, care and other stuff. Most recommended

[@sarinhighwind]

The tamahawk argument that always cracks me up is "if the handle breaks with x brand, i can just go cut a new one." Okay. what are you going to use to cut that? Oh a large survival knife? why are you bothering with the tamahawk then except for cool points?

[@farmerboy916]

The answer is that it's quite easy to improvise such a handle with small saplings or branches, just using the tomahawk head. At least compared to an axe. Then the improvised handle, likely made out of a bundle of several smaller saplings, can be used to cut a proper handle.

[@sarinhighwind]

Alright. Lets see a video homie. Cause it's a lot more complicated than that.

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

Sarin Highwind What you fail to realize is you can still use the head of the tomahawk to make a new handle... its not rocket science!

[@sarinhighwind]

Oh I'm avid in the axe trade. But I want to see one of ya'll make a handle for your tomahawk with the head and no handle. Especially if you have one of the spike ended ones. Come on, video's. If you've made axe handles before, you would know its not quite that easy. Dont haev to worry about that shit with a good survival knife.

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

Sarin Highwind well there's your first problem, this is NOT an axe this IS a tomahawk there's a huge difference. and if you'd take just a little of your time and look on youtube you'll find people who have done this.

[@Bulwark1911]

Extra weight is ok on a tomahawk, since it's a multipurpose tool.

[@kyle87436]

Wouldn't it be better to buy a smaller hawk where everything, even the handle, is just one piece of steel? Dont have to worry about the head flying off, and its sexier.

[@Jesses001]

I think the hammer would have more use as a tool. I can not think of much to do with the spike other than use as a weapon.

[@thegangvault2]

Jesse Sisolack theoretically the spike would be used to strip bark and small limbs... you could just do that with a knife or the actual blade. I'm still waiting for a hawk or axe with a blade on one side and a hammer on the other that is actually balanced for weight.

[@Jesses001]

thegangvault2 Cold Steel has a few hammer options, though I am not sure exactly what kind of balance you are looking for.

[@2JEWS1PENNY]

That looks like Oregon!

[@sniperforce34]

CRKT always has great products. And i own 5 of there products but i didnt find there tomahawk appealing.. Not saying its bad, but it didnt catch my eye. Most of the stuff ive gotten in the last 2 yrs has been from watching ur vids. On the project here... But this product i gave a thumbs down.. Not saying its bad, but it just isnt for me.... Thanks for the hard work and vids. Keep up the work... I enjoy the adventures i see here in the nutnfancy prodject... Stay kewl....

[@Elias.Agg.]

Its chops good as you said, but why you didnt try to split some wood? Why you dont use it as a throwing weapon? The head is loose, to be easy remove the handle, if you wanna replace it or use it as a hand tool. Its a versatile tool. It cant replace a normal axe or hatchet. It has multiple uses. Used for chopping, splitting, throwing weapon, hand tool, self defense weapon. Many uses. If its heavy, its a problem. It must be light. Why chogan you think is better?! You could carve a wooden mallet out there and use it for hammering...

[@dalecarpenter8828]

How much does the pick weigh ? Cut that thing off ! Smack it down on the head it will get tight ( it's a pressure fit ) ! Like a pick handle ! When you travel you take the head off ! Don't put anything on the handle ! You could cut some fancy grip lines !

[@jeffbonds3850]

Tomahawks are supposed to have a head that fits like that so you can tap the head loose for it to come off if you need too you are holding it to standards you'd hold a hatchet to and hatchets and tomahawks are two different animals

[@Jabbawokeez4]

Awesome. The video, not the tomahawk. If I went camping, I would bring a medium to full size felling axe by Gransfors Bruks or Wetterlings, not a tomahawk. Just in case I get lost or stranded or something, a full-sized axe head will be more effective at wood processing than a thinner tomahawk head. Just my 2 cents.

[@Jabbawokeez4]

fair point

[@Wildwestwrangler]

The chogan T-hawk hits with a little more authority than most hawks also if I'm deep in the backwoods I'd rather have my chogan than an axe unless I plan on felling large trees cause it'll do the same work until the tree gets big and also the hawk's gonna do a lot of things the axe can't. As the saying goes got an axe in the pack, and a hawk on the belt.

[@947969]

Axe for the homestead big fixed blade for the country

[@jareth7456]

Cutting logs is not what a hawk is used for...it's more of a weapon and smaller chores like field dressing deer , a full size axe will make short work of logs this size

[@Travonous1]

they are both meant to be blunt there not for slicing, More towards chopping and smashing.

[@Old_Sailor85]

At 2 lbs I'd rather have a Gransfors Small Forest Axe, or your choice of a saw and a big knife.A saw is 10X better than a hatchet/small axe for cutting anything you'll need at a camp. Split with your knife and a baton. Just my 2 cents.

[@mysciencenow]

yeah to be spiked by that in battle would be horrific

[@troixczyzewski9126]

You think that spike could get through a bear skull? Just for last resort? Don't want to end up like Hugh Glass now 😯😤💪 look him up on youtube for sure.

[@VengeanceIV]

Wow, I'm late to the party on this one.

[@stefanwolf88]

My choice - CS spike hawk (with cut off spike) - every day of the week and twice on sunday - outstanding value for the money. Cut off the spike, do some work with the rasp and set the head good and enjoy your CRKT hawk. Thanks for the video and stay safe.

[@oldgravely]

WAR-HAMMER. I like the hammer pull the best

[@leticianunez3822]

The sheath is a eye pleaser but not worth the money I put a nice edge on the hawk went to my woods to test out this BAD BOY and loe and behold wasn't even hiking for 10minutes my hawk cut right through the stitching on the sheath so please be careful people and God bless

[@blizzak454]

Luv u nutn, but please get with wranglerstar when it comes to sharpening axes and setting ax heads.......slamming it on concrete!? Every lumberjack ever just rolled over in their graves.

[@farmerboy916]

Dude, it's a tomahawk. That's how you seat the head; it's not an axe, held on with a wedge.

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

farmerboy916 agreed

[@oldeays5085]

You put the head on yourself. Lol! It should, come tight'. It came completely off. Lol!

[@clapforboobies5892]

Your chopping form is not safe. Aim between your legs in case you over travel so you don't bury it in your kneecap.

[@ericferguson9989]

The tactical version is much lighter and sharper.

[@eurekamaruu6836]

Grain orientation on the handle is terrible, it'll break in 3-4 overstrikes.

[@GoldPointForge]

Joey Ogden have you broken a handle?

[@crkt]

Joey Ogden You probably don't know this, but the guy that asked the previous question is the designer of the T-hawk featured in the video. He's a boss. -Ben

[@eurekamaruu6836]

www.africanarcher.com/articles%20items/AXEcraft/Figure-6-Handle-wood-grain.jpg

[@crkt]

Joey Ogden I'm not looking to debate it with you, but I watched 7 Boy Scouts over-strike 15-20 times with this t-hawk last year. No broken handle. Have you taken one out to test it? -Ben

[@eurekamaruu6836]

It's not just my opinion that the growth rings should be aligned with the axe bit. The USFS and CFS have long considered it an essential for a durable axe handle. Moreover, I don't have to personally test every individual axe in order to understand this. It's a universal fact, particularly with ring-porous wood like hickory. I personally wouldn't buy a $70 modern axe that I'll have to rehandle in a year when I could go to the flea market and get a 1940s Collins in good condition for $50 and re-hang it.

[@DCTG]

i'd be happy to know they were made in the USA instead of darn allen. fix the head, get a shim, but make it in the USA.

[@NickLoganbill]

Allen head in a tomahawk? No thanks. Why not add a safety to a Glock while you're at it..

[@freacadadisc]

That thing needs more sharpening...

[@John_BP]

Mine fell apart, never even used it, just picked it up one day and the head fell down, crkt will never get my business again.

[@farmerboy916]

Y'know, they're supposed to do that. You just put it back on.

[@JCrook1028]

John 89 That's by design and part of why it is a tomahawk.

[@John_BP]

JCrook1028 It would have been nice if the product description explained that this product is designed to fall apart when not in use. I would have just bought a 10 dollar hatchet at lowes instead.

[@farmerboy916]

John 89 Well, a company rather expects you to know basic things about products you are interested in buying. For instance, what a tomahawk is, or that a lawnmower needs fuel. It's the easiest damn thing in the world; you didn't even watch the video, did you? He shows setting the head better.

[@dougnc7745]

Not much of a scalper although looks like it could be a winner if you need to mercilessly bludgeon something to death.

[@mysciencenow]

indian way

[@alishabrady7863]

use the other side

[@shandamay9443]

this is Micheal shanda's husband. honestly I love most of your videos but I don't think you know how to use a tomahawk or an axe for that matter when an axe hatchet or hawk bites the first time you need go change the direction of your swing and in practically you should change direction every swing same as a axe. the looseness in the handle is from inpropper fit to handle but your chopping technique is mostly to blame for your bad review

[@jownbey]

From your liberal use of athletic tape for grip id swear you played lacrosse in another life lol

[@CUtTHrOaT_GHOST]

Jordan Ownbey can confirm... I do the same thing

[@whiskeypapa8842]

Cold Steel FTW.

[@Viking4freedom]

Man I can't believe you didn't know you're supposed to seat the head yourself.....and as far as a synthetic handle goes? WHY? You can make a handle yourself with the very tool head on the hawk IN THE WOODS. Wrapping your handle is basic knowledge as well.

[@jestergodfield690]

He ALWAYS complains about the weight of every piece of gear he gets his hands on!

[@mixter1023]

Jester Godfield He's a Backpacker, that comes with the territory.

[@sgthl]

Here´s my take on the matter, you are all free to disagree. Cut wood = use a proper axe (or saw). Pretend you´re an apache = tomahawk. The tomahawk really has no real place in the woods, it´s just a silly toy. Saw, proper axe and knife is the way to go, as it has been basically forever in the northern hemisphere woods. - But its too heavy.... No it´s not, man the f*ck up. The time you really need to cut wood you will be glad you brought a proper axe and not a silly toy like a tomahawk. Because of the chopping and splitting capabilities a real axe serves a purpose the rest of your equipment can´t. The axe can also replace your knife should you ever loose it, but the knife can never replace the axe. And once again, the synthetic axehandles are not better than the wooden ones for one simple reason, there is simply no way for you to replace a synthetic handle when it breaks, especially out in the woods. The epoxy used to glue it to the axehead makes it impossible to replace in the field. If a wooden handle breaks, which is highly unlikely if you treat it correctly, all you have to do is make a new handle and attach it.

[@pedro664]

I do not like this one

[@noahbird5061]

This dude is fake he isn't nuttun fancy this is recorded crap from the real nuttun fancy videos