Crossplane vs Flatplane V8 Sound Comparison

[@myredfast]

Might be a good idea to cut together at same rpm so we can actually get a very good sense of difference

[@fabrb26]

Just compare sound from YT videos named " BMW Z4 GT3 PURE SOUND - Accelerations, Backfires & More!! " ( crossplane ) vs " HONDA HSV-010 GT 鈴鹿TEST " ( flatplane ) . Best exemple of two extreme in real life application imo .

[@stevewyatt3339]

OH HELL NO !.............fucked up is better

[@TVmadethemdoit]

@@fabrb26 U could have copy and paste a link

[@Cardfold11]

faburisu yeah good comparison but one major difference is the liter of displacement between those two motors. 4.4L in the BMW vs 3.4L in the Honda

[@milojanis4901]

Which is which???

[@FoxPopvli]

The only kind of electric engine I'd accept in a car :D

[@cornishandy5393]

I have to wholeheartedly agree, and I’d opt for cross-plane.

[@the_real_drwhoroblox1935]

same here i cant stand a high end performance EV that has an electric motor instead of a solenoid engine arranged in a V8 configuration

[@nottelling8129]

It would make some noise, compared to a regular electric motor

[@szuzmariacsatkai3496]

The crossplane sounded like an UAZ. Beautyful sound, music to my ear

[@tonydaniels6518]

He kept revving them up if he just let them turn at steady RPM it would have been easier to compare

[@charlesnash4809]

Basically, a wasted effort.

[@howabouthetruth2157]

@@charlesnash4809 No, this was NOT "a wasted effort"........this video is assuming people have at least a little common sense. What "effort" have you put into anything like this? Answer: NONE. It's always the damned critics who are the very ones that know the very LEAST about what they are criticizing.

[@HoweDoYouDo1999]

It’s not like I’m gunna tell my ears are trash 😂

[@lesliedsouza4077]

@@howabouthetruth2157 How 'bout This Truth? He put so much effort into that apparatus - Shoulda left it in idle, for viewers to get the beat. He revs? Just when viewers are tuning into the beat? He'll cop abuse

[@13-xmipa4-ghaniathallah4]

sounds like diesel machine

[@mrc14_2]

Ghani Athallah ikr?

[@eeiko321]

sounds like soemones typing on a mechanical keyboard

[@m_timokhin2809]

Like old diesel truck

[@Bennyboy46a]

sounds like a V8 perkins or scania!

[@russellmckinney7612]

my chevy 400 gas engine sounds like that crossplane

[@calebharris292]

Since we're not dealing with combustion engine strokes, effectively a 1 stroke cycle, each piston could be balanced with their own plane, disregarding previous notions on how reciprocal engines work. I'm designing a full sized version with this "cross-cross" type of crankshaft. Hopefully I'll be able to share it on KZbin soon :)

[@identiticrisis]

The cam is clearly geared 1:1, so these are effectively two stroke engines - that means any sound difference will not be what people expect. What we've got here is even firing in each bank for both engines (180 degrees for the flatplane, 90 for the crossplane) and 90 degree intervals overall (simultaneous "ignitions") for both also. Nice work, though!

[@drongojonkins8945]

What cam?

[@itIsI988]

@@drongojonkins8945 The thing to the left being driven by the chain.

[@caseymoore9737]

I see what you are saying, after each of the 4 cylinders fire, the next stroke is not a compression stroke so the engine would have to rotate 270° before the next Cylinder fired and not fire right away as shown in this video. Ok and I way off

[@rogueart7706]

They both sound like WWI biplanes. I like the popping idle of the crossplane the best....sounds like home.

[@Putinhuylo3]

That crossplane v8 at the end sounded a lot like an aircooled VW flat-4. It also picked up revs the same.

[@ESKATEUK]

Literally exactly what I was going to say. Sounds almost identical, we have a 56 VW splitty that sounds just like this

[@Wildstar40]

Plot Twist: It also has the same power output of the old VW flat 4 as well.

[@rich1051414]

A flatplane is always going to sound more consistent, while crossplane is going to have 2 out of 8 cylinders that have inconsistent scavenging results. This is what alters the sound the most. I am not sure you will be able to hear the difference unless you have actual combustion occurring.

[@eyegrinder94]

I hear it. Crossplane at low rpm sounds kind of like horse hooves, while flatplane sounds like a card that's rattling against spokes.

[@spudbot69]

I love the sound of American v8 engines.

[@Ken-mu3dc]

@@spudbot69 Most American V8's are cross plane cranks which is what gives them the 'wobbly' burble. A flat plane crank V8 sounds more like a 4 cylinder engine once you get the revs up! I prefer the sound of the cross plane crank V8's but I'm biased 'coz I've got one!

[@spudbot69]

@@Ken-mu3dc I know. That's why I like the American v8...because the way they scavenge exhaust they make a certain distinct sound.

[@bdogjr7779]

Very cool ; You can hear the difference at idle where the crossplane pistons are reaching Top Stroke at there own individual times. The flate plane pistons are moving 2 at a time. I hope someone one a Science Fair with this project ! Good Job !

[@lobmin]

Good call on the irl watermark

[@muaythai193]

Love crossplane V8s! 😍

[@cuatropolis2881]

Imagine a car engine with this concept, best of both worlds

[@justamantiswithgoodtaste8166]

it would be pretty inefficient compared to a regular electric motor, but yeah, pretty interesting too. Imagine a solenoid engine like this but the size of a 4 or 5 liter (or more), really cool.

[@ericdolby1622]

How are you determining the firing order? I know Chevy used 18436572 for a long while.

[@davidrobert2007]

I just copied Chevy.

[@AfterDark33]

Eric Dolby firing order doesn’t make much of a deal when it comes to the sound of an engine. Provided it works that is

[@Poop-nu1so]

AfterDark3 wrong

[@jacobpennington4595]

Ford 302s have a distinct sound because foreign order is different

[@EdgyNumber1]

The sound is a function of both mechanical movement of the pistons, the firing order and resultant pulses depedent on exhaust header construction (whether pipes take into account the uneven firing or not)

[@akinjacobs26]

This vid should have wayyy more views

[@Alessandro-dz3cw]

this is basicaly just like a 2 stroke right?, one power stroke for each revolution soo, wouldnt it deliver a smoother power output in a crossplane patern since theres a power stroke each 45° instead of flatplane which delivers one power stroke each 90° but 2 pistons firing at the same time

[@davidrobert2007]

The engine is running as a 2 stroke in this video, but even with it set up as a crossplane crank, you still end up with two pistons firing together - just on opposite sides of the vee. On the flatplane crank the two pistons that fire together are on the same side of the vee. I think it sounds nicer running as a crossplane though. Thanks for commenting.

[@Alessandro-dz3cw]

@@davidrobert2007 because its a 90° v8 you could fix it by having the 2 sets of cylinder banks at 45°, have a good day man, you did a great job

[@davidrobert2007]

@@Alessandro-dz3cw I watched your video of your scrap mechanic 2 stroke v8 - nice work bro - it looks like you got the 45 degree angle dialled in there.

[@0s0sXD]

cross plane sounds way cooler

[@johnkendall6962]

I like the sound of the cross plane crank better

[@mjt-ew8rs]

flat or cross plane is not about sound, its about performance

[@289pinto]

@@mjt-ew8rs in a performance real world situation but here its about sound

[@DanielPfender]

Wow, I could hear a 350 LT1 the whole time the crossplane was running,, and I could make out an F136 F during the flatplane part of the video just based on the firing order. Really cool!

[@CertifiedTransmissionsDraper]

How in the world can you change from flat plane to cross plane without changing the crankshaft? Looks to me that the crankshaft is staying the same and he's only changing the firing order. J. Larry Bloodworth, CMAT

[@davidrobert2007]

The crankshaft is screwed together and can be easily re configured.

[@jamesavery6671]

From my understanding flatplane cranks help correct the inherit Imbalance of the crossplanes crankshaft counter weight positioning making for more controlled inertia

[@0s0sXD]

James Avery cross plane sounds cooler

[@jameskerr2812]

That is too cool! Please keep up the awesome work!!!

[@davidrobert2007]

I will be building a v10 once I'm done procrastinating. Thanks for your comment.

[@Alexander5R]

This sounds like my mom's old sewing machine lol

[@jeremiaswitt1374]

The difference between crossplane v8 sound and flatplane v8 sound is in the escape because the crossplane have to make 2 exhaust fires very close in one head and then a wait 2 times to hear a exhaust fire in that head again, and flatplane makes 1 fire in one head and then in the other (at least it's what I know about it) I saw it in Engineering Explained channel flatplane vs crossplane or something like that

[@joracer1]

You have to change the crankshaft... to get a difference.

[@TheJacobshapiro]

joracer1 the difference in sound only comes from the firing order

[@TorutheRedFox]

not only mate crankshaft does also make a slight difference

[@howabouthetruth2157]

He DID use 2 different crank shafts in this video, you clueless jack ass. Watch both designs very carefully at low rpm's, and you can clearly see the difference by watching the motion and sequence of the connecting rods. You CAN'T accomplish THAT by using "the same crank shaft".......ya moron.

[@howabouthetruth2157]

@@TheJacobshapiro WRONG. The difference in cross plane vs flat plane crank shafts DO ALSO make a difference in the sound. IT HAS TO. You need to carefully study what happens with "EXHAUST SCAVENGING" between both designs.......and then hopefully you'll get a clue.

[@justinmartin8887]

Did you change the crankshaft and not just firing order?

[@Andrew-jd1dt]

He did move to connecting rod positions, they are just bolted to a spindle. But you can see @ 5 seconds they are bolted crossplane & at the end they are bolted flatplane. Also looks to be counter balanced lol

[@justcallmejohn2833]

They both have a power pulse every 90 degrees of revolution. It’s not like the cross plain is under powered but it does seem that it would be easier to balance.

[@neilsolomon9149]

That played with my mind.

[@monishbafna396]

How did you increase the rotation and how does the shifting of the rod principal works

[@M_White_VA]

How does this compare to a 90 degree like in my v4? Is it more like half a cross plane? Honda vfr

[@ridezosmon2306]

Crossplane ftw! A lot more smooth

[@FootageFactory]

I heard it. But the sound really comes into play when there is a large internal combustion. Kind of trippy. either way

[@minusinfinity6974]

Sounds better than an AMG A45.

[@mcr0741]

You are aware that flat plane or cross plane is based on the firing order, and not just on the positioning of the crank pins right? in this case, the pistons are making that sound. If the pistons do not have a 4-stroke cycle, they're basically just firing at even orders, and not odd intervals. They're firing evenly at 180 degrees and 90 degrees. So even when the pistons in the cross plane are producing sound at 90 degrees, it is basically just similar to the 180 degree interval of the flat plane, its just that the sounds will be produced a bit faster and continuous. :/

[@davidstockard1069]

Great demonstration.

[@larrylishman6038]

Great job on this project, and a nice presentation!!

[@ACERASPIRE1]

That was shit, it want a presentation of any kind, no intro to explanation of what's happening.

[@larrylishman6038]

FO@@ACERASPIRE1

[@BMWiE-lz3nu]

Is it possible to do a flat plane crank on a inline 6? I'm so ignorant to what a flat plane actually does

[@davidrobert2007]

Imagine it like this - viewing the crankshaft end on - the positions of the crankpins (where the rods join the crank) form a cross + on a crossplane v8 - on a clock face it would be 12 o'clock, 3 o'clock, 6 o'clock and 9 o'clock. So that's 8 pistons connected in four places to the crankshaft. An inline six is different, you have six pistons connecting to the crankshaft at three points, 120 degrees apart, so it is not a cross, but a Y type arrangement. It's simply about evenly spacing the pistons so that everything balances out.

[@SteamBirds]

I have seen other v8 solenoid engines... what makes yours sound like an actual engine while others do not?

[@davidrobert2007]

It's the mechanical switching system that makes it sound like that. It allows for the odd misfire :)

[@SteamBirds]

Additionally, will you do one of these vidoes for the v12 engine?

[@davidrobert2007]

What a crossplane vs flatplane video? The v12 layout makes both not possible.

[@shapshooter7769]

Pretty sure there are multiple firing orders for v12 engines. I'd like to see that happen :)

[@Tech_Planet]

Hi David, can I showcase a clip from your v8 solenoid engine? I am doing a video on best homemade engines.

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

I’ll answer for him, sure go ahead but give him credit.

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

flat plane seems like it'd put less strain on the crank, while cross plane seems more torquey because all the cylinders fire cloe together, then coast through the other 3 cycles

[@lobsterbark]

Flat planes put less stress on the crank, allowing a lighter crank, but they put a ton more stress on every other part of the engine, transmission, and the car itself.

[@RDCST]

I don't get it, Is not the same engine on the video? As far I understand the crossplane flatplane must be at crankshaft level not ignition level. If you see the crankshaft from the tip you see a cross(crosplane) or a line(flatplane).

[@davidrobert2007]

The crankshaft is made up of sections, and can be re configured by simply loosening a set screw on each section, so it can be both flat plane or cross plane. It can also run as two stroke or four stroke by changing the chain gear ratio and re configuring the timing trigger. Thanks for commenting.

[@RDCST]

@@davidrobert2007 Thanks for the clarification.

[@bigredracer7848]

Thanks for the great video upload

[@goldenretriever6440]

I know an engine like this is probably useless but I do wonder how efficient it would be if it was hooked up to a transmission like most cars Apparently transmissions are used to help engines work more efficiently at a wider range of speeds I don't know it probably wouldn't do much just a thought

[@felixs9722]

What do you mean an engine like this? Flatplane? If so, Ferrari uses them for racing, and Ford put it the new Shelby Mustang GT350R. Or are you talking about the electric motor?

[@goldenretriever6440]

Felix I mean this solenoid engine thing this guys rockin

[@felixs9722]

Well combustion engines have a certain engine speed at which they are efficient, so being able to stay at that engine speed changing the speed of the wheels is how a transmission helps efficiency. But an electricity based engine has very small changes in efficiency across it's speed range, so it would not help really, that's why almost all electric cars have 1 gear. But if we look at the exact model in the video, i think it would at least help achieve a higher speed, since the engine speed is limited by the weight of the moving parts and build up friction. So.....yes?

[@goldenretriever6440]

Felix Interesting I'm no electrical engineer i just like to see stuff that's cool

[@edwinkarani5593]

Which is better interms of performance?

[@davidrobert2007]

In an internal combustion engine, the flatplane has more performance potential.

[@mvb819]

Is there some reason why you posted 20s of crossplane sound and 1m49s of flatplane?

[@DevFTW]

mvb819 discrimination

[@cesarjserrano8709]

what temperature dose the solinoids have when is running? Do they get very hot?

[@davidrobert2007]

They get warm with extended use, but the thick aluminium bar that the solenoids are pressed into acts as a heatsink and carries heat away from the brass solenoid cores.

[@juansolo1617]

Have you tried to use these engines on any RC machines?

[@cemsengul16]

even in toy form a Crossplane sounds better

[@thepoemi8292]

Hello, where did you buy the pistons?

[@davidrobert2007]

I made the pistons from M8 allen bolts.

[@LordWillyGee]

What horsepower and how big of an engine can you build ??? You know they want to fade out gas power Cars/Trucks in 2030-2034 who knows, drop one your engine with a/some generator you may have an electric V-8 or V-10 motor?

[@davidkuhn3970]

Cross plane has the best sounding idle.

[@itsalgud1459]

Although there is a noticeable difference between the two, it seems to me that this is not very representative of a real engine since there are no actual combustion going on. It’s just being turned by the electric motor, right?

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi, there is no electric motor. It uses switchable electromagnets instead of internal combustion to move the pistons, and the pistons are pulled upwards by magnetism, rather than pushed downwards by a combustion event, other than that it is the same geometry and layout as an IC engine.

[@levietnam-voyage6718]

Est-ce que le son V8 est ici? Ce n'est pas aussi attrayant que le mescedes V8?

[@tracejohnson6273]

Though this works as a good general comparison between crankshafts, it fails as a sound comparison in two ways. First, it uses electromagnetism rather than combustion to operate the motor. Granted this is the only reasonable approach in an open model like this, but the sound is not the same regardless. Second, and perhaps more significant is the capability of flat-plane crank ICUs to rev higher and make use of lighter, less sound-damping materials in their construction. Neither of these differences were exhibited in the video.

[@shapshooter7769]

The relay sounds had a pretty audible difference in my opinion, though you are right about how this is a overly simplified design. If anything, sound harmonics in exhaust design is another field in of itself; a famous example would be the Lexus LFA. They really made the V10 sound like it was revving twice as fast as the engine tach say otherwise.

[@MarkMeadows90]

Sounds like an airplane at higher RPMs

[@fazbearofficial3817]

can you make a W8 W12 or W16?

[@stasos2967]

А как состоит электрическая часть, если вам не сложно, то очень прошу нарисовать (или начертить) для меня схему электрической части.

[@wicaksonoanindita]

Crossplane inline 4 vs flatplane inline 4?

[@dzelpwr]

Screw the difference between cross plane and flat plane for the moment, I want to see a solenoid operated reciprocating mass engine scaled up and see how efficient it is with its electric use vs. a conventional electric motor. That's just too cool.

[@dzelpwr]

It will be horribly inefficient I'm sure, but it's still really neat. You do get some noises that do remind you of the good ol piston engine, but is all electric. Would be neat to see scaled up and operational in a real vehicle just for fun.

[@BLacknesmonstaz]

Came here cause of next gen c8 will have flat plane. Thanks now I know!

[@zdw306]

Heavy flywheel should help give more torque, plus a geared down output.

[@topzozzle6319]

A flywheel doesn't add torque, it adds inertia

[@ВладимирБаскаков-с5м]

Inertial torque

[@crackedemerald4930]

+Владимир Баскаков BAM

[@MrKnockout_]

sasdlasokdalkfdalksfa plus momentum

[@FreddyPond]

Hey David, I'm working on a school project and we have got a snag. We have a little less than a month. What we are doing is making an Arduino timed Solenoid engine. Our problem has to do with the mechanics of actually building the engine and the solenoids. It would be greatly appreciated if you could help me out with some advice or maybe even just walk us through building something. Thanks man, love your videos.

[@davidrobert2007]

I'll try my best but the only thing I know about Arduino is how to spell it.

[@stasos2967]

А в двигателе v12 каким образом производится увеличение и уменьшение оборотов?

[@davidrobert2007]

V12 использует тот же принцип, но имеет другую компоновку, на v12 триггерные провода могут быть перемещены в более широкую часть медного треугольника для увеличения продолжительности

[@EdgyNumber1]

How about trying a Flatplane inline-4 vs crossplane inline-4?

[@davidrobert2007]

Let me set up the table saw.

[@hardikdava3302]

What if we use AC source then what will be the output ?please answer me.

[@markg7030]

DC of course.

[@Kj16V]

It's not really the layout of the cranks that give flat and cross plane V8's their respective sounds. It's the exhaust pulses. You can make a flat plane v8 sound like a crossplane if you layout the exhaust in the right way.

[@ilovesheen7446]

Kj16V firing orders play a big role too, listen to the r1 crossplane inline 4

[@chapelao2006]

parabens por mais esse trabalho

[@LuizCma]

SE O CROSS PLANE e TAO BOM , PORQ NAO VEM NOS MOTOREs DE TODOs OS VEICULOs ?

[@AverageReviewsYT]

I didn't hear a difference

[@AverageReviewsYT]

He made those to show us the sound difference

[@andrewh1006]

Listen more closely to the idle of both engines. The Crossplane has longer pauses between rotations while the Flatplane is a more steady linear sound

[@Velkanis]

im a little late to the party but leme explain this to you: crossplane makes each opposite piston eg 5,6 go in a separate point of the rotation of the crank as any other pair while the flatplane is pretty much 2 I4 engines fuse together in a V shape wich means 1-7 move along as 2-8 does as 3-5 and 4-6 TL;DR: the sound diference can only be noticed when you realice that in a crossplane theres only 1 piston at TDC as in a flatplane theres 2 at a given crank position wich makes the crosplane a little bit smoother at idle

[@Y10Q]

flatplane sounds like an inline 4. Crossplane sounds like a V6

[@triggeredz9909]

There's a huge difference

[@TheMatsushitaMan]

Do a max rev video of both. Or, try hooking it up to a RC car

[@davidrobert2007]

This is maximum rpm (approx. 1,000rpm), the rc car is a nice idea but the engine doesn't produce nearly as much torque as a conventional dc motor.

[@gristlevonraben]

What do you think could give it more torque? Is it possible to make a solenoid to where there are two magnetic coils? As one pushes the rod down, the other coil near the end of its cycle pulls on it, and then pushes it up as it begins the upstroke?

[@davidrobert2007]

I have made a double coil solenoid and it does produce more torque, but it uses double the power, so there's no win. I think that converting reciprocating motion into rotational motion will always be inefficient, and conventional rotary electric motors will always win because of this.

[@gristlevonraben]

I understand. Even with a battery, alternator/generator system like in old tractors that generated their own power by belt drive to the crank shaft, the torque is just not there. I guess the next best thing would be to build a high torque motor that uses less power. I suspect it would involve magnets and pick up coils in just the right places.

[@TheMatsushitaMan]

+davidrobert2007 Or, mount it on a wooden platform, attach 2 axles and add wheels, hook up the engine to the rear wheels and see if it runs. Make a video if possible

[@stasos2967]

И ещё, сколько, каких, материалов и для чего вам понадобилось

[@fidelcatsro6948]

no videos for last 2 years amigo? are you still doing these?

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi, I will be doing more engine videos in the near future. Cheers.

[@skyisthelimitreadyornotfor2]

Earth is a flat plane, was that any inspiration for the V8 Flatplane?

[@heavymetalweld805]

Is there any practical application for this?

[@JWVids100]

Flatplane is often used in regular cars (the regular V8), Crossplane is used in motorcycles. (Yamaha R1)

[@JWVids100]

@Drty_Windshield TIL. Thanks.

[@chadcooper6534]

That's pretty damn cool

[@copseverywhere5160]

Can you guide how to build it?

[@recepaka1209]

The only wonder that looks so good is the strength. Do a power test?

[@luisantoniomelaramejia525]

Me podrían explicar como elaborará un motor así coneccione y partes a usar

[@stasos2967]

Автор если ты ещё не забросил канал, то очень прошу объяснить мне, как ты увеличиваешь обороты двигателя, что это за система

[@davidrobert2007]

Распредвал включает соленоиды, более ясный вид здесь kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIiXlopsirNsjJI

[@billpaul8675]

The crossplane "lope" sounds way better than the flatplane "chatter"... "chatter your eyes into a liquid"

[@Destructorbr]

hi, How much torque?

[@davidrobert2007]

Very little torque when compared to a conventional electric motor running the same power input.

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Sounds like a Honda with some bent valves.

[@coydog7902]

Do crossplane V6

[@Wildstar40]

Wind it up to 7200 rpm slowly and hold it there for six seconds then slowly wind it back down.

[@davidrobert2007]

It tops out at 1100 rpm

[@geraldsilvers8752]

I'd take that flatplane any day of the week

[@luisantoniomarrega3713]

Muito legal, e eu ainda não construi um, tenho que desmontar algo para aproveitar peças, construír um bem simples.

[@lucywucyyy]

the cross plane almost sounds like a galloping noise the flatplane is much smoother also i had no idea solanoid engines were a thing, i wanna see one in an rc car

[@howabouthetruth2157]

A cross plane crank is smoother than a flat plane. This is NOT "my opinion"......IT'S A SCIENTIFIC FACT. Flat plane cranks can rev higher due to better exhaust scavenging, and are used only for smaller race engines. However, they run rougher ( even though they sound "cool" ) and will NOT last as long as a cross plane crank equipped engine. Also, cross plane cranks can produce more torque at lower rpm's.......whereas a flat plane can rev higher. There's a trade-off in everything, and both have their advantages & disadvantages. Ya wanna race only? Go with the flat plane. Do ya want an engine to be more durable? Go with the cross plane.

[@christophervan6966]

Thanks. Perfect.

[@flyingmerkel6]

Crossplane!

[@milesh.9615]

the only difference would be heard through the exhaust, so this didn't make much sense, but still cool.

[@fromstarlighttosunrise128]

for those who are too lazy to watch closely yes the crank was changed

[@gabrielvieira6529]

Nice engine man!!!

[@albertomotors6901]

Sounds like a diesel engine

[@Eights_Coronel-864]

Why do they sound like diesel engines?

[@reweydewy]

sounds like a air-cooled vw flat 4

[@ajm_project2631]

Masok pak Eko

[@MavAuto-Pete]

Flat plane definitely smoother. Just a pitty it hasn't got the sound of an ice lol

[@indridcold8433]

It is time to design a motorbike or scooter around your motor. It will be incredible!

[@Drewbyy]

this is awesome

[@OfficialDJQader]

maximum torque is? rpm 1,000 ?

[@SteelyEyedMissileDan]

Over 9000 at 420rpm. 666 hp at 69rpm. Blaze it all hail dragonball satan. I too am a fellow youth.