Motocross conversion to an enduro woods dirt bike︱Cross Training Enduro

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[@ashsowman]

A stock YZ250 fitted with a good rider can be a pretty formidable combination, believe me.

[@Wide000]

I believe you. But not for difficult and very technical stuff.

[@ashsowman]

You'd be surprised, they make good hard enduro bikes even when bone stock because they weigh nothing, have very plush suspension for motocross bikes and have great bottom end with the help of some good clutch control.

[@mark-1234]

I've owned a YZ for years and I can tell you it's not an enduro bike. Even with much of the modifications listed in the vid, it's still not a match for a full enduro. For one, porting, carb size, and power valve settings are vastly different on a track bike and will never give you the smooth low end power of a woods bike.

[@sonoma314]

YZ250 is the best bike. 2006 and up are all the same. Still the best suspension out there. Even stock it works great in the woods.

[@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq]

Mark - i jist go faster to stay in the power band lol i love my cr

[@harryfritter8266]

My neighbor is in his sixties and from Austria, he rides a CR500 as his trail weapon. He's like five and a half feet tall and can throw that bike around like a bmx bicycle. The trails in western Colorado are steep, rocky and dangerous. Even a hundred meters behind him I'm still getting roosted. I'm always amazed to see him ride

[@crosstrainingenduro]

good stuff! i'm just working on a vid now for paul rodden who is turning 80 soon. he's just bought a new dirt bike, riding gear and van to go around the US and canada dirt riding some more... and he's consistently fast. i can keep up but after about five minutes start to get too tired at his pace lol.

[@theDugonator]

I learned to ride the woods on a 2001 cr80r; now I ride a yz125. If you can ride a small bore two stroke in the woods, you can ride ANYTHING in the woods.

[@jackedsports4114]

Joe Mamma currently been riding a 1994 yz80 for enduro, definitely helps you get more clutch control! I'm going to get a yz125 or a kx125 next spring.

[@ItsLost]

its the same with mx track one guys said if you can ride a 125 fast you can ride Any motorcycle fast

[@risingeagle915]

I learned on XR100 and YZ80. Nothing like an 80 2 stroke in the woods.

[@scottmchone4230]

I started out riding pretty technical single track on a kx250. I added an 11oz flywheel weight and moose racing makes an easy pull clutch lever that really helped the wrist cramping. Some guards and a skid plate for protection. The suspension was stiff and kick starting the bike in the middle of a technical uphill section was tricky. But it got me addicted to this stuff at a price I could afford. Though I have to admit the first time I went out on my 300 XCW it felt like I was floating over some of the stuff that I had struggled over on the Kawi.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the suspension can be one of the real killers hey scott? that moose lever sounds interesting, probably a similar concept to the midwest levers we have used sometimes....

[@scottmchone4230]

Indeed. I am certain no matter how many years I do this I will never fully wrap my head around suspension. The Moose design is a similar concept to the midwest. Just think cable. I would say it cut pull down by 30% or more. Couldn't have paid much more that $25.00 US. I ordered the midwest clutch lever after watching one of your videos. I had bent the original pretty bad and needed a replacement anyway so figured I would give it a go. I only tried it for one ride. I never seemed to get the adjustment quite right. It seemed to either always be slipping a bit or always be dragging a bit. Hard to find the sweet spot. I beat the bent one back into submission and put it back on. I do plan on trying it again. One of the other guys I ride with is on practically the same bike as me and he swears by it. Keep the vids coming. Following some fast talented riders and these tips are the only thing keeping me out of the hospital.

[@MrDuhfactor]

That is really interesting.... Surprisingly, my Ol' 1985 YZ490 that I keep teasing about is becoming a pretty good trail/enduro bike. It's not worth anything to sell, so I've just kept modding it a little here, a little there... I put a wide ratio 5 speed in it, ported it and head mod to improve low/mid range torque, and revalved the suspension myself (Still improving to my preference) with twin closed chamber forks off an 09'YZ450F. Riding with my buddy who has a KTM 300 EXC, I seem to be able to manage easily the same obstacles... The biggest problem I have is a hypertrophied R leg and left forarm from kick starting and operating the clutch....lol

[@crosstrainingenduro]

oh yeah, the cable clutch and no button are a tough combo lol! i wonder if a midwest lever would help? or another guy in these comments said a moose lever worked wonders for the clutch and was much cheaper than a midwest too....

[@thesickhorseranch]

I have an 86 KX500 that I put 05 forks on recently. The bike is long, the head angle is pretty slack and it goes up things off-idle that I would have my 250 singing in the powerband before. I barely give that bike any throttle, just keep it alive and it lugs all day. I love riding the old stuff, even if I do throw on some "fresh" 10 year old equipment now and again. lol

[@thesickhorseranch]

I left the shock alone, it's actually a really neat setup for a stock bike. Where the shock is on a modern bike they used a transfer bar up to a cantilever and the shock is inboard, in the engine cradle. No hanging linkage to beat up on rocks and you can adjust ride height separately of the spring preload. That means I set the spring where the shock works best and then I can tailor the seat height for my stubby legs! lol

[@utahdesertrider1806]

MrDuhfactor my buddy has a CR 500 1990. Ergonomics are old but he has it set up great! It works really well.

[@Jacare1973]

That KX500 is a thing of beauty! I would rather ride that!

[@brianroberts6605]

got a 2014 husky 250fc , four stroke motocross bike. for a B level rider it is a secret weapon. works fantastic in the bush. I also had a older KTM 250 sxf that was great in the woods also.

[@iluvmx1977]

The guy kicking the KX 500 at 1:08 😂. Bet he thought it was a good idea when he bought it and had delusions of flying past his mates on the back wheel like a super hero LMFAOROTF 😂😂😂

[@SANDS78]

I love the motocross bikes because of weight and affordability. These old Japanese bikes are easy to get parts for new and used. I don't think the gearing is a deal breaker either. You adapt quick after riding any bike for some time. Not sure how I feel about flywheel weights either. Have two CR250's one with, and one without--again you get used to how to ride it. Suspension though is a must no matter what you have. Get it set up for your weight and riding and you will be really surprised how all the other things are no big deal.

[@modsquad1670]

The one thing I really liked about building my yz 250 woods bike was that I got to spend the money on mods I actually wanted instead of just paying more and getting whatever oem gives you.

[@bodeamir4484]

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[@vincentgordon7934]

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[@bodeamir4484]

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[@bodeamir4484]

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[@vincentgordon7934]

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[@sonoma314]

I converted a 1999 KX250. Worked great. Nice to beat up a used bike while learning, then get a new bike when your skills improve. I used an ultra heavy tube in the 19" tire at 9psi and never had a flat. Can't match a hydraulic clutch though. Tip: get the heaviest flywheel weight. Then if you think it's too heavy, send it back to Steahly and they'll cut it down. ($20.00 US) I went from a 13oz to an 11oz. Perfect.

[@sonoma314]

... if the bike has progressive rate springs switch them to linear rate. Progressive rate doesn't work well in the woods.

[@yzkwc6835]

First, love your vids!! I think I have watched them all at this point and most of the training videos many times. Usually right before I go riding. I took about 30 years off from riding. Yes an old fart! So I am learning to ride again and I bought a 08 YZ250 to start with.There are tons of them and parts and knowledge are amply available.Also, my plan is to never ride any other bikes, then I don't know what I am missing. Besides, my riding still sucks so bad I could be on an electric scooter and the results wouldn't change much!Thanks again!!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

heaps of us getting back into it in our 50s, beats a sports car for the midlife crisis!

[@AnimalMother85]

Hey Barry, I have a 2003 YZ250 her in the states, which my friends and I have affectionately named 'The Donkey' because when I bought it last spring, I it was in incredibly rough shape (SAE hardware where it should have been metric, suspension was all screwed up, etc). I wanted a steel framed bike over a Aluminum for trail riding and the engines are relatively the same from 2003-2016, so there are tons of parts out there. Anyhow, I ride trails, not that the fruitier equestrian dressage of motorcycle riding which is known as motocross. Here are my mods to date; 9oz flywheel weight Lectron Carburator - totally changed the power delivery to be more trail friendly, added about 10 MPG = 28.2 litres per 100 kms and is easier to tune GT216AA fatty front - really plants the bike and keeps it from washing out your typical armor products, skid plates, case saver, etc. Tall seat It came with an X-ring chain. I'll be doing some more work to it this spring, but I'll eventually hit the wall of "how much more money do I want to put into a 13 year old bike?" Future mods include head work KYB SSS suspension 18" rear wheel with GT230 Steering stabilzer Fasst Co bards I was just riding with a friend last night who picked up a YZ250FX. His bike has as follows; power generation strong enough for a radiator fan and headlight 6 gears wide ratio 18" tire electric start I said the same things to him that you mentioned; the YZ250X needs: 6 wide ratio gears Larger Tank Electric Start Lights 49 more CCs Hydraulic Clutch The issue is with the US market, most people only know Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow with Orange becoming more familiar. Only small handfuls are paying in depth attention to KTM/Husqvarana, Beta, Gas Gas, Sherco, and TM. However, we are starting to see a slight shift to off road riding due to the fact that people are waking up and realizing that their hopes, dreams, and aspirations of becoming the next Travis Pastrana are not grounded in reality. Yamaha has been doing some interesting things over the past few years. Maybe they'll pony up. Personally I'd like to see them go to a steel frame for the X model, like KTM and Beta.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

yes it's a real shame the japanese have become so conservatire and mired in the past with their dirt models. i have wondered if it's the continuing sales in the US that allow them to not make changes? certainly in places like europe, australia and canada they are quite rare on the tracks now and everyone has gone euro.... i'd love to see a serious YZ300X with those mods!

[@sammyscrap]

Motocross bikes can be had second hand on the cheap, I say if you go that route just ride the bike as-is and get on with it. For a lot of guys this will work just fine.

[@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq]

Tosh Outdoors i do just that

[@Drewski423]

I have a 2017 woods set up yz250. Magura hydraulic clutch, 18in rear wheel, devol skid plate, yz250x kick stand, full fmf, the kyb with a pro motion spring and revalve for a 170 pound woods rider, tubliss in the rear, acerbis bark busters. May add a 11 oz flywheel weight in the future. Kept hearing stock, and it’s a ripper. I ride tight technical single track here in east tn. I have thought about throwing in the old wr426 trannys but it doesn’t really need it. This one makes woods set up yz250 number 5 for me and I have loved them all.

[@aseredy]

On a side note: in the US, many states allow you to register your 2 stroke as "off road only" with the DOT and you can then ride them in most moto parks, trails, and national parks that allow 2wheels. Just not on public roads.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

hearing that quite a bit, aseredy. much of the forum chat seems to be dominated by guys in CA where it sounds much stricter than everywhere else so i assumed that was more the norm...

[@719vol]

In Michigan, it’s quite easy. Michigan Secretary of State ( our DMV) outlines the requirements in document www.michigan.gov/sos/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/28lawensn/TR54.pdf Download it. Make the necessary changes. Contact law enforcement official for inspection. Take completed document to Sec of State for plate and new title.

[@RafaZardetto115]

Barry, I've been following your channel since the Berg times! Congrats for keeping up the good work! Being a owner of a converted YZ 250, you´ve pretty much summed it up with the pros and cons Barry. The gears are the real problem. At least I change front sprockets from 13t to 15t. About the Hydro clutch, I've fixed the problem by installing these adjustable clutch levers. You can choose 3 positions for the cable end, getting more leverage. Soft as hot butter! A side stand can be really useful too!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

sounds good rzgamer, which brand of clutch lever are you using? we've used midwest ones in the past to good effect.

[@RafaZardetto115]

I'm using a MSR lever.

[@Nordspets]

Just bought a 2009 kx450f and I am in the progress to convert it to enduro. Around here an registered enduro bike goes for around 3500€ and up, and there isn’t an owerflow on the market. I paid 1300€ for my kx in really good condition and have spent around 7-800€ on mods like; complete lighting (original coil can handle it due to the FI), Skid plate, larger fuel tank, side stand, sprockets, chain and other maintenance stuff. Next on the list of mods to get is; *Either flywheel weight (couple 100€) or a Rekluse auto clutch (1000€) *Suspension modifications (500-1000€) *18” rear wheel, and/or supermoto wheels. So i would be around 3-4000€ into it when I’m done and would have, in my opinion, a much better and all fresh bike than if I would have bought a used enduro bike. Plus, I’ve hade fun and learned alot from tinkering and modding the bike. Only drawbacks would be the tight gearing, no electric start and the biggest; not streetlegal.

[@esaurica]

Another good video! :-) and I would like to share my experience as a beginner: I come from an enduro Husky 125 and I recently got a KTM SX-F 250 because I'm also doing some motocross riding from time to time. I've been testing a number of brands from 125, 250, 300 and 450 cc, 2 and 4 strokes cross and enduro. What I do most is enduro and almost all my mates have enduro bikes. This is obviously a personal point of view but I love my motocross 250 F. That extra aggressivity for a small 250 works great for me respect a 250 "soft enduro bike" and helps to be more accurate in throttle and clutch control. It probably won't work so well with bigger displacements. The original sprocket was a 48 and I mounted a 52 + a skip plate + strong hands guards + 90/90-21 from and 120/80-19 rear. I'll get Tubliss soon. I still use the stock springs, (I'm about 78 Kg with all the protective equipments). I just use softer compression and quicker rebound for enduro; it's still a bit stiff with mid-size rocks or rounded river stones... but lower tyres pressure, (0,6 bar or 9 PSI), works great for mid-slow riding! With that pressure, I already damaged a tube and hit the rims, so I getting into Tubliss. I'm very looking forward to test my tyres with 0 PSI and winter is on its way in Europe! Hug from Italy - Sicily!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i think the four stroke engine will immediately be better for this conversion, salvatore. i think its' going to take a lot of work to make this 250SX comfortable for enduro riding....

[@esaurica]

You're right!

[@ethanvillaneda]

Nice vid, a couple weeks ago i asked this question on a comment! thanks for making this video!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

yep, i remember your question ethan and probably from about 50 other viewers the past year or two. it was good to finally get around to seeing what a converted bike was like. :)

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

in the US, a 5 gear box is common, the 6 gear boxes are fairly rare unless you have a KTM or some Betas ( not sure on the Betas). plus I am almost positive All Honda bikes have 5 gears (except 70 cc clutchless trainer bikes. they have 3)

[@andyfreeman3023]

I ride a semi covered yz250 and but I still run mx gears and although it's not thought of as an ideal setup I find it makes me keep good clutch control and not get lazy especially with only a 9 Oz flywheel weight

[@HeddleTown]

Lots of good points made here well done...👍😎

[@BenRiddick07]

here in Colorado if you have a spark arrestor you are good to go! we can even ride any ohv In our town and use a few highway sections for access to more trails without any license on the machine. thanks for the awesome channel! I've learned much from your lessons.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

that sounds like a very commonsense approach. most states here you need full registration to ride in public forests, but two states you can get cheap recreational reg.... all you need is a headlight on your bike.

[@BenRiddick07]

I forgot to mention the ohv tags, there only $25 us and that money goes back to the trail management system.

[@mattysenior7965]

I also ride a yz 250 with very similar mods, i have also changed the reed block to a vforce 3, power valve spring, gnarly fmf expansion chamber with stock muffler and had the barrel shaved 1mm that with some leaner jetting gives more bottom and massive midrange power but a smoother power curve than stock. With the smoother power and re valved suspension makes a very capable bike in the bush. I have also just recently converted a yz 250f for the bush with good results.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

sounds good matty, i bet it's very similar to the one i rode with those mods. sweet engines....

[@tonywillingham8109]

Did you use the Cisco power valve spring? If so, is it worth the $60 to have it shipped to the USA?

[@rubenjimenez5213]

The YZ250 06 and up is perfect for the conversion, lots of aftermarket parts available, if you get one as a project bike and build it up and still be way under in price that one of them expensive Austrian bikes, i do not have anything against them bikes but if you want just to enjoy the sport on a budget that is the bike for you

[@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq]

i got a 01 cr250 no fly wheel weight and pro circut xhast with shorty muffler and oem gearing i like the top speed and i trail ride it and its a handfull at the best of times

[@darrenfitzpatrick9518]

here in Ireland/ europe we have the wr250x which is a yz 250 made into enduro from yamaha for 2016 , kick start only though , and it's bloody awesome

[@drage275]

i live in vic so for me, plating isnt a problem because we have Rec Reg down here. i run a 13oz weight on mine and love it also run a ciscos powervalve spring which gives you heaps more power off the bottom end. a lot of riders pull 4th and 5th gears out of a wr450f gearbox to give them some cruising ability.

[@xhuff317]

Does it makes sense? It does to me. I just bough a 2003 to covert and build into a race bike for this type of terrain. A little twist that I'll be doing to solve most of the problems you guys have with the transmission, a complete wide-ratio trans out of an earlier YZ400F...drops right in. Thanks for the video.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

awesome... those gear ratios can be a the deal breaker for many.

[@v1kku]

The yz400f transmission is exactly the same as the 2003 yz250 (apart from the shift drum and one shift fork who's sliding arm is slightly shorter). Same exact ratios and all.

[@rubenjimenez5213]

I got a 2013 as a project the engine was apart with a major top end damage, i swap the transmission for one of a WR (depending on the year it may be needed to remove some material from the case to make it fit but is very minimal), i replace every bearing and seal and did some porting on the transfer port and the cylinder(just improve the flow, not a race port), the bike came with an APEX cylinder head with the XC dome, i took it for a break in ride and the transmission did a great improvement going up hills in 3rd slugging it and it whent up no problem, after that first ride i addres the suspension lower it 50mm and revalve it for a softer woods friendly feell, in all i am unther $3000

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Bargain!

[@rubenjimenez5213]

@@crosstrainingenduro but remember it is 20% bike and 80% rider

[@Wrench421]

You can rec reg mx bikes in VIC. I put lights and a horn onto my 2013 kx250f. Suspension had to be set up - choice suspension in Kyneton did a great job. However the light flywheel and kick start does make it hard work compared to a dedicated Enduro bike... The over all cost... It would have been cheaper to buy a exc.

[@nuttysnpdg]

absolutely awesome video mate, covered just about everything and very good points.

[@utahdesertrider1806]

Love your videos! Great job

[@KristofSX]

on the EnduroGP level these enduro bikes are more like MX bikes (Antoine Meo's winning 350EXCF was made on 350SXF model, not EXCF) but when its coming to amateur riding its better to get an enduro bike. I had many MX bikes and few enduro bikes and im alwys faster in woods on enduro bike than on mx bike, even after conversion. I did almost full conversion for 450 SXF MY2011 to XCF (couldn't make a gearbox conversion), the progress i made with my ride after conversion was big, but now when I got full EXCF enduro bike (350EXCF) its the whole new level of riding. it would need a lot of setup to make the SXF works like EXCF bike.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

a very good point there kristof, i think the top riders are so fast a motocross bike setup probably becomes very useful in an enduro setting... i know our local junior endurocross champ recently changed over to a motocross bike.

[@adamkorb0749]

i have an rm 85 i do woods and its a race bike and i put a 50 tooth sprocket on the back and that bike is crisp for the woods

[@biker108earley8]

in some states of AU's you can get rec reg with lets you ride a MX bike in those places witch need rego

[@charlesgutscher6249]

I love my YZ. 05 YZ250, custom valved suspension, 13oz flywheel weight, 2 teeth up in the rear, its much better to ride than my KTMs were.

[@Drewski423]

Charles Gutscher I was thinking about an 11oz flywheel weight or a 13. Any opinions or suggestions or differences between the 2?

[@Drewski423]

Charles Gutscher I am on woods set up yz250 number 5. On a 2017 now, but never ran a flywheel weight on the other 4.

[@99nasha]

Stock suspension? Everyone seem to moan about the 05's forks. How are you getting on with it?

[@charlesgutscher1923]

@@Drewski423 I ran a 13oz flywheel weight. It could have realistically used more but was good.

[@charlesgutscher1923]

@@99nasha mine had the 06 SSS forks on swapped. They were great. I've now switched to a 2020 TX300i, never looking back! Lol

[@Motonion]

I love tinkering so this would be a good idea for me it's just the money side of it which causes the problems

[@infidelmat]

Finally, something that goes with those pants.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

lol the bike MUST match the pants, not the other way around

[@raymondk1083]

mods on my 97 yz125 for enduro : 12T front sprocket from 13T (rear 49T) , lowering pilot jet to 12.5 from 35 .

[@PearLock]

Some people find that after a converted MX, it cost as much as a dedicated enduro? Wrong. Not if you look in the right places/get the right bike. Is it worth it to convert a MX? Yes, if you get the right bike. Get an old steel-framed YZ. Like a 2000-2002. SUPER, SUPER fucking cheap. You don't gotta worry about close-ratio gearing, because it's compatible with the WR's if you swap it, same with the rear wheel, I believe. Throw in a flywheel weight, and some lights if you want them. And bam. You have a bike that can do anything any fuckin' KTM can do, and it all cost you $3000 or less. And it has the most support for woods riding, compared to all the other MX's.

[@rihs335]

For now yz 250 can put gearbox from yz 250x enduro model :)

[@masterbeta343]

Speaking of race bikes ive just got another hydraulic part for my trials bike pretty soon i hope to get it running before this year ends i hope

[@mark-1234]

I own an older YZ250 and finally converted it to a woods bike a few years ago (pipe, weight, suspension, chain, steel sprockets, and few other changes), and I have to agree that you're much better off performance-wise getting a full enduro bike. Mine does fairly well and can tractor up most technical stuff (mostly due to 13/50 sprockets), but it's not the easiest bike to ride compared to others (which, since I need the exercise, suits me). I also don't have the advantage of that lower 1st or higher 5th gear. The differences between track and enduro bike engines (especially 2-strokes) are the porting, timing of the power valve and spark, and carb size (lower rpms require smaller carbs in order to maintain intake velocity). Until those changes are made, a track bike will never equal the low-end grunt of something like your 300 Beta. Also, I think most will find that there's little weight difference by the time many of those changes are made.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

a good summary mark. if i had the money and storage room i'd probably like to have one as a spare bike and just do the budget mods... but beyond that the price and weight do creep up too much.

[@burntcreekriders5898]

That's the good thing about my Ktm 200 exc I can ride it on track, trail and road

[@JonBorpa]

all you need is a low end pipe and gas. I ride my mx bike on the tight trails and on the track. it works great

[@EddyOtway]

We are lucky in Victoria with rec reg, put a light on an mx bike and off you go. I did have a short ride of a YZ with a rekluse clutch and I didn't like it, Did feel small and light but the gears got me coming off a 300, if I was to have a proper ride it might convince me otherwise

[@JoeL-mm2lc]

I had a converted yz250 for a long time that was used as a trail/xtraining bike. It was a love and hate relationship. I was never entirely happy with the gearing, there was always a compromise, too short for this, too tall for that ect... Not to mention the resell value of a $2000 bike that you put $2000 into is still pretty much $2000

[@crosstrainingenduro]

so true, no one will pay you for the mods done, joe. i guess a bike like that becomes a keeper and you never sell it, just keep it as the backup bike. :)

[@MARKMAN-qt2up]

I'm am also really considering doing this to a 2 stroke motocross bike. I worked out a used yz250 for good price some smart mods here and there and it's already half the price of a beta but if you buy used and go the money is no option route it which includes head porting and bigbore for 298c you are 1000 dollars less than a beta 250. I am really wanting to buy a used one and use it in local enduro but I'm going the smarter route and saving the money and building a shed

[@Roller71]

Ok, Barry. Yes your named as God parents to my two children but Rob Farrington sent me at cost two golden tyres that changed my riding lifestyle. Rob May father any future kids. What a great bloke, he absorbed greater postage to get me sorted on your reccomendation

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the man is a freak, royce. i keep hearing about situations where he drops everything and drives to a local race because some guy urgently needed a new tyre... he won't tell anyone these things but you hear about it from others. good old fashioned service and then a whole dollop more on top of that. :)

[@Chevsilverado]

My YZ295 has a 295 kit, re ported, reshaped head, fmf gnarly and Shorty, 11oz flywheel weight, torque spacer, different needle, bigger rear wheel, throttle tamer, mousse tire, and it has wr450 gears in the gearbox

[@jessetate3110]

Had one built similar, miss the hell out of it.

[@endurotruckererniedesjardins]

What needle do you run. And does the g2 throttle tamer make a noticable difference?

[@JuggsMX]

in the us you can get just about any dirt bike plated

[@dtroy15]

Potentially, but you still need to put on a stator and signals in most states. It takes a lot of mods.

[@daviddriver6339]

Legally you are totally correct. But with LEDs and small lithium batteries these days, plus the very short tech inspections required.. you could actually get by without an actual stator/charging system. As long as you didn't run at night forcing you use use a 30w headlight, you could actually run all day with blinkers and tail light without a stator if you had a decent small battery. Just something to keep in mind.

[@JuggsMX]

My buddy got is 450 street legal in va. all he did was switch to a more quiet muffler, added a battery, lights, mirrors, tail lights, and registered it.

[@aaronbright5028]

Shout out to my boi on the 500 glad to know other people like to ride them on technical terrain

[@danjim7056]

Ahhhh good thing you cab make pretty much anything street legal in Michigan..

[@bubzy8091]

If you are wanting to build one of these bikes I recommend buying a cr250r year 2002 and up

[@justinf6758]

What is so bad about a 5 speed gear box? Gncc is only on east coast by the way

[@DavidMinkCCCMD]

Not sure if someone already said it, but Rocky Mountain ATV has a wide range gear conversion kit so your YZ250 will have gearing like a YZ250X.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the wide ratio gear cogs? nice... but must cost a bit!

[@DavidMinkCCCMD]

CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS Yup, those. I could definitely see the benefit for those who could afford it, but I know I can't. Otherwise I'd have a KTM lol

[@justinsavage6236]

My old man has had a few yz with the wr conversion, where we live we don't get the options of other brands other than KTM/Husky or Yamaha

[@Scottstunts]

I ride a 17 TE300 right now but miss the stiffer suspension of the mx bikes I used to single track ride. Even with the suspension tuned on the Husky I just don’t feel as comfortable at speed as I did on a stock mx suspension.

[@Patrickb24v]

thanks for the great video

[@twelthmanfan]

I've got a new 2017 Honda CRF250R obviously has too much throttle response as way to Snappy to control in tight technical and rough Terrain so what is a few mods that I should start with to smooth the throttle out and make it easier to control

[@crosstrainingenduro]

did you watch this vid? or hit the link to the four part series at the end that goes into even more detail? more info here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4TKY6aioZuse9E

[@Wide000]

OK, I have been waiting 18 hours questionning myself if i was going to mention it or not. But I can't keep this terrible secret anymore. The pull of my hydraulic clutch is not really lighter than all the cable clutches I had before and I sincerely hate the infinite astronomical gap between the first and second gear on my older 250 Exc (2005)... so ''hydraulic clutch'' and ''wide ratio'' are very difficult concept for me to grasp. I never had any use for my front light either, my bike is too heavy and I don't care about the rear stop light not working. I can't even intoxicate myself with 20/1 castor oil like in the good ol' days... On the other hand, I must admit that I really like my anodized oil drain plug. Am I a real enduro guy, doctor? Or simply an ex old school motocross ape fitted with a Harley pea size brain?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

within every dirt rider lurks the motocross ape fitted with a Harley pea size brain. :) it's true there are some cable clutches that can be fairly light, but the ones i have tried have been hard to pull in and my old middle aged hands let me know about it after the ride lol. a wide first and second gear are definitely bad news, i think on enduro bikes the wider spread is meant to be in the higher gears so you can lope along on dirt roads or easy tracks at 80+kmh without sitting on the rev limiter. or i think that's the theory.... but i am just a gumby motocross ape fitted with a Harley pea size brain.

[@Wide000]

Welcome to the Harley pea size brain elitist club! May our divine Guru, Donald Trump, be with you. The theory I read about my 5 speed bike is that they lowered the first gear for difficult sections and made the 5 taller for cruising. While the taller fifth is a good idea, the lower first just make the bike impossible to gear properly. I have tried 3 different rear sprockets, 2 different front, and nothing will do... I don't know why they did not ask for my expert opinion on this. In the good ol'days, I experimented this theory at lenght on my Husqvarna CR 250. The second gear was broken and consequently had a gap almost as wide as my EXC between the first and the... next gear. I rode like this for two months in every conciousness state possible, helped with a wide variety of psychoactive substances, castor oil included. In this subjective schizophrenic context, I had to come to the objective conclusion that there is no way such a gap could be as good in reality as it may seems cool in an advertising campaign. This crapy theory just did not pass my foolproof reality test.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

wow. as i read that i could actually feel the divine blessing of the trump settling upon me. i will now go out and attempt to convert my RR480 from a six speed to a five speed.

[@markilleen4027]

im trying to find a little 85 to put a 300 trials engine into, and all the bits and bobs the trials bike came with, to make a mini enduro bike, for my sister she has my old 1993 kx80 big wheel, but it's no good for endure or trail riding

[@PlaySafeProductions]

Very interesting video. I just sold my F800GS to buy a light off-road bike, but still want something I can ride on the road. So, this video was very interesting. Thinking about the CRF250L, which will be better off-road than the heavy F800GS, but still good enough on the road for short trips. Would love a review of this bike if you could get your hands on one. I know it is not a hard-core bike, but for the money it seems like a good middle ground.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

one of the guys in canada asked me to ride his for one minute because he wanted to see if it was possible to wheelie it. i couldn't wait to give it back of course, it weighed a ton! unfortunately it's so far removed from the stuff we are doing i can't see us ever reviewing it. or if we did it would be on the adventure channel....

[@PlaySafeProductions]

Thanks for your reply. I have been watching your videos for about a year and really value the content you produce. It is great information that is produced for the right reasons. Looking forward to watching more of your videos.

[@chrisirving8712]

Great. Vid 👨‍🚀

[@reinokotze]

Well in africa you can get anything plated if you want to put enough effort into getting it done

[@wfmaruenduro9541]

I have been riding a 01yz 125 in the wood for almost 3 years... all I did was go 1 tooth down on the counter shaft and soften the the suspension..... is there any reason to get a larger bike??? just wanted your thoughts on it.... thanks

[@iluvmx1977]

WFmaru enduro don’t buy a KX 500 like the guy kicking his at 1:08 😂

[@practicaladvmoto]

it's crazy how many people here in the USA do that, especially here in the south. me, I'd rather spend the extra money on an enduro bike and spend all that conversion time, riding instead. but to each their own.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

true, i think it's simply the budget that forces an mx bike for dirt riding....

[@thesickhorseranch]

We see it a bit here in Oregon too. You can nab an old MXer for around $1K and then throw another grand at it and be piles of money ahead of the high end new models. There are plenty of sacrifices, gearing, E-start, hyd. clutch, 18" rear wheel, but in the end it gets people out in their hobby and saves $6K doing it.

[@brapbrap9627]

Hello From brazil great channel

[@YzBlue777]

I have a 02 yz 125 but I killed the ignition coil after 25hours. I've been told by the dealer that this isnt how I should ride my bike and that I should keep it wide open for air flow any ideas to help keep it cool while I practice my slow enduro skills,

[@richardcabitto5108]

Strap two or three zip lock bags of dry ice around it!!! That should work!

[@nvmcrider8475]

For racing it might be worth it, but for a weekend play rider, just get the yz250fx and add a cooling fan. You will be happier and don't have to screw around mixing gas, jetting, fouling plugs and crap rattling off due to vibration.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Great suspension too for enduro riding... at the KYB versions. Rode one for a week and loved the suspension.

[@zachy6311]

I'm gettin a new bike soon, and I was gonna convert a kx100, but instead I'm probably gonna get a husky wr150 and lower it

[@DaMCBulldog]

honestly converting a 100 is great. the power is great for the woods right out of the box and all it really needs is a skid plate and handguards and you are set. obviously you could get a bigger rear sprocket as well, but the stock gearing does fine. and overall, converting a kx100 is not expensive at all seeing as though you can ride them in the woods bone stock and they still rip. also, the parts would be much cheaper than a husqvarna.

[@zachy6311]

ya, I was gonna put on an fmf fatty, and an fmf shorty, hand guards, and skid plate, but id rather have a full sized bike so I can just raise the suspension again when I grow more

[@johnfraser8158]

fatty and a shorty? You'd probably want more like a gnarly and a turbine core. The shorty is strictly motorcross.

[@zachy6311]

John Fraser they don't have a gnarly for the 100 but that was a while ago, I just bought a 2010 gasgas ec250 six days edition instead

[@jnuxca]

yamaha could really sell a lot of bikes if they only made plated bike with 18" rear wheel and hydraulic clutch, i'd love to ride a 250 so light

[@crosstrainingenduro]

fingers crossed for 2018, many think yamaha is just testing the market with this YZ250X and will do it properly next year. who knows....

[@jnuxca]

maybe with direct efi on the 250? i want to believe ahahahah

[@thesickhorseranch]

Direct injection is alive in the snowmobile and outboard markets, I hope we're next!

[@jnuxca]

The Sick Horse Ranch yeah that's what makes it sad, direct injection has been around for a very long time on snowmobiles and outboards and still nothing on bikes

[@thesickhorseranch]

I remember a promotional video for an outboard manufacturer and they were tying boats together and having "pull-off" competitions between DI 2T and double cc 4T engines and those 2Ts would swamp the 4Ts every time. It wasn't a subtle difference, and all of this from a motor that got better fuel mileage, better throttle response, more power, and was lighter weight than even a 4T twice it's size in cc.

[@TheBudhead75]

Flywheel weight on a 450? Have you heard of this being beneficial ? UT. USA 🇺🇸 Rocky mountains to salt flats out here

[@Steves_ADV]

I got a KXF250 first when I started to ride dirt but found it very difficult to ride (not impossible). After swapping to a wr250F I was immediately riding better/faster and with more confidence on the first ride than I ever did with the KXF250. I think mostly due to not having such a snappy throttle I was able to relax and focus on riding, not hanging on with a death grip. What parts on an enduro bike would you suggest stripping to save weight besides lights?. Thanks :)

[@crosstrainingenduro]

not much you can do to strip weight from an enduro bike other than what we mentioned in the vid, a lithium battery imho.

[@armweak13]

99% of "enduro" bikes can't be plated anyways here in California, therefore almost every enduro rider I know here (including myself) prefers motocross bikes. Bummer for us :(

[@TsarAlexTheFirst]

You finally listened to me! 😂

[@hillbillyhang9098]

Somewhere in this series of Moto to Endo you covered drive ratios. I have a 14 KTM 300 XC that had been changed before I got it and seems a bit tall. Do you know what would have been stock or what your Enduro preference would be for it? I just finished making it completely street legal.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

no suggestions specifically for the 300XC unfortunately....

[@d1977j]

What xactly did he do to the head, fix squish probably, but for enduro did he increase or reduce compression. I presume increase for low end.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

you'd need to ask rob for specifics, i put his website details in the video description

[@EddiNice]

Hello guys, great video. I am interested in buying YZ250 between 2006 and 2016, my budget is £2500. I would like to make it enduro-friendly, sort of like KTM 250EXC, but cheaper. Can you guy help. Thank you

[@crosstrainingenduro]

we did an entire video on that exact subject

[@apostate4apostate494]

on my 2021 ktm 300 xcw i usually ride hard enduro with big rocks and roots etc. But got a woods race coming up which will be easier high speed trails, ripping and flying through trees. for this race id like my bike adjusted to ride a little more like an XC at high speed/cornering. Should i just reference the manual and do what it says and set everything on the suspension to "SPORT" mode? wont this stiffen everything up and be better for spped while still being soft enough for the occasional rut, rock, root? has anyone setup the 300 XC-W in the "sport" mode that is referenced in the manual? any negatives or drawbacks to this setup???

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I know next to nothing about suspension and never even bother adjusting clickers. 😢

[@googleuser1522]

I just picked up a yz250 2003 and will do some enduro mods. Can you provide more detail on a proper header pipe for enduro style riding? What characteristics should I be looking for in a new pipe? Thanks!!!!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

never owned one, only showcased this YZ which belongs to another rider.... :(

[@googleuser1522]

CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS no worries! Prior to viewing this vid I had not considered a different pipe may help in my enduro mod project, but now I know to do some research on the pipe. Thanks!

[@daviddriver6339]

Do you think it takes a more experienced rider to handle an MX conversion or is it actually better for beginners since theyre going slower anyway? The low weight is probably a lot less intimidating for a beginner, AND easier to pickup. My thought has always been you can learn shifting/throttle control. But you cant make 260lbs falling over feel any lighter, so why not make it 210lbs (and probably a little lower center of gravity too).

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the light weight helps a beginner but everything else would go against them david, an mx bike is designed to work best when ridden hard and fast.... unless you do the mods in this vid to tame it down.

[@jridenour31]

David Driver No. Beginners are going so slow and the stiff suspension beats the crap out of them.

[@matttesch7314]

What sprockets sizes are you guys using?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

can't remember now matt but gearing was discussed in the full series we did... link at the end.

[@kennonsw535]

What year is this yz250

[@КУПУКА]

You have to get the side stand too

[@ieatvodka6936]

you can get a rec reg kit tho

[@engineraw5761]

do you have any experience whit the kawasaki klx 250? and have you come upon someone who rides it offroad?if soo how is it? :D and keep up the good work!!!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the green bikes are extremely rare around here.

[@engineraw5761]

haha. okei thanks :)

[@johnfraser8158]

you can put an O-ring chain on any bike, am I wrong?

[@johnfraser8158]

Next time you need a new chain just get an O-ring chain

[@ssupreme9740]

Hey guys would a Yamaha yz 125 be a good enduro bike I’m thinking about getting one

[@crosstrainingenduro]

we have no idea... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJeafaaVor92qZY but other viewers might. :)

[@adammauzy6309]

I have a 2005 KDX200, it is a woods bike but dosent have electric start... Kinda sucks

[@lowgear3063]

I’m from Slovenia it’s hard to ride legally hear to

[@Crash-hq6rt]

I think no matter what, we as guys are going to modify the !@#$ out of our bikes. It could be a full blown race bike from KTM / Beta, and I'd probably find something i'd want to modify. Find something that fits you in your style and go from there. Don't worry about money, it grows from a few trees in my back yard

[@jackhassett2027]

Anyone ridden a Ktm 125sx on trail? Is it a struggle?

[@philipp4109]

Jack Hassett im riding one Now, works great ik im late ;)

[@Billyrobthornton]

what a flywheel weight and 18' rear rim and purchase cost of the bike still equals a 14000 enduro bike ? yeah nuh woods conversion is still cheaper by a mile

[@henrik7966]

Does the flywheel apply to a 250 motocross 4 stroke, such as a 2011 KTM sxf250

[@crosstrainingenduro]

no idea henrik, we only tested it on the one bike 😢

[@ktm125xc6]

I turned a 2016 ktm 125 into a full enduro bike

[@resiign6780]

Is there any way I could register a YZ125 2001 in new york?

[@jeremymarti2125]

what was the gearing?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

stock

[@jeremymarti2125]

CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS thanks

[@masterbeta343]

Just get the 250x or 250xc they r trail bikes but sure can rip

[@masterbeta343]

Id definitely prefer the ktm because its about 30 pounds lighter

[@jridenour31]

Christian 777 Lol the ktm isn't 30 pounds lighter.