Crowd funding - a way to exploit the well-meaning and gullible?

Crowd funding sites may be exploiting people's well-meaning charity, and people's self-aggrandising virtue-signalling. Beware!
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I was made aware of Water Seer because many of my Facebook friends were 'liking' it. I saw the crowd-funding campaign's video on Indigogo and immediately felt that something was fishy. I may be wrong - perhaps this is a legitimate project that might do some good, but to me it looked like a useless project. Here I use my freedom of speech to make not an accusation, but a warning to potential backers to stay alert and to question the value of a project, and not be bamboozled by the trappings of charity into thinking that a project that promises lot of free stuff to poor people in the Third World must be a good thing to invest in.
Possibly Water Seer is a knowing scam, or possibly it is something put together by self-deluded but well-intentioned people. You decide.
The invention here is so simple, that if it worked, I suspect that they might have had invented them thousands of years ago.
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[@RolfHartmann]

This is ridiculous, I saw those working just fine on uncle Owen's farm on Tatooine.

[@mocaxu]

they were destroyed by stormtroopers after you left....

[@reececrump8483]

Rolf Hartmann i saw them on the planet arakkis 1st...

[@MaxisGameplays]

looool

[@delvinciposterkid]

The water on Arakkis, comes from the bodies of the fallen, hence the term "take their water." Deathstills, and people jerky.

[@barlart]

You forget that Tatooine, unlike earth, has different gravitational properties due to it being a sphere unlike the earth which is well understood to be flat.

[@mistahsusan2650]

Ceiling light still on. Unsubbed.

[@MrN1c3Guy100]

whats wrong with that? I mean he makes video and you need lighting for that

[@JerehmiaBoaz]

Watching Lloyd doing his videos in one take to me is a big reason for subbing :) I don't agree with half he says, but I deeply admire his conversation and presentation skills. Try talking off the cuff about some random topic like crowd funding for 15 minutes without notable pauses and/or uhhhs yourself and see how hard it really is, then watch Lloyd doing it seemingly effortlessly.

[@zasmrcaveman5725]

Wy Vern i know, i also can't stand overhead lighting indoors

[@mistahsusan2650]

***** FITE ME!!!!

[@mistahsusan2650]

MrN1c3Guy100 *[THE JOKE]* -------------------------------------->> _[YOUR HEAD]_

[@floydlooney6837]

Update: Thunderf00t has found they are now selling a rebranded plug-in dehumidifier bought from China and sold for a thousand dollars more... this outfit is an outright con.

[@rickdees251]

Dehumidifiers DO NOT produce potable water. The water they produce is full of viruses, bacteria, pollen, dust and dirt. Not safe for drinking untreated.

[@mark1A100]

@@rickdees251 the funny thing is that to protect themselves they have a few sentences saying that it needs more filtering

[@dreamyrhodes]

@@rickdees251 And the salt they use in these is often caustic or toxic.

[@JohnDlugosz]

@@mark1A100 You think they would include a filter in the enclosure.

[@mark1A100]

@@JohnDlugosz that would require actual engineering skils and effort

[@dcb1138]

The "Prototype" is a $100 De-humidifier they bought at Walmart.

[@BlackEpyon]

Skepticism should be taught in schools. Too bad America's school systems are doing precisely the opposite.

[@blankman9955]

BlackEpyon on the other hand when some kids do it they become utter twats. questioning every word the teacher says and then making massive fusses when they are asked to do anything

[@CPSPD]

JoeRingo the Secondary School Edgemaster

[@alexanderreusens7633]

It's very hard to be unbiased, but i'd say in Europe we are slightly better in "nuancing" controversial topics. I can be wrong though. And now that Devos is in charge, I don't think America will have (public) schools in a few years :)

[@jarrodong4430]

Hey joeRingo but look at whats happening to america right now WTF is happening over there.

[@JerehmiaBoaz]

Show me someone who claims he's free of ideology and I'll show you a naive idiot. The main purpose of schools is to indoctrinate kids into "happy, productive members of society". The real question is if the ideology is any good and does what it promises.

[@IsaacPiera]

I once saw a prototype working, but it was heavily guarded by a tribe armed with spandaus and fire arrows.

[@Synthesizer4274]

Dear God! You're lucky you made it out alive!

[@IsaacPiera]

Aaescii I had a Katana, so I could cut the bullets and escape :)

[@nonamemage6599]

Isaac Alonso fire arrows don't really work

[@ilhamabdulhakim9554]

are those people berserkers ?

[@marvelousdex9678]

Isaac Alonso did they have anything to shoot the arrows with or did they just have the arrows by themselves?

[@Alex-gv2jc]

first result for waterseer: "busted" first result for gravity light: "how it works" this speaks for itself

[@siyacer]

Cool pfp

[@1337fraggzb00N]

Next project of Waterseer: they land on the sun and because they are quite clever, they go there at night, when the sun is turned off. Didn‘t see that coming, huh?

[@UncleKennysPlace]

@Carlos Sibaja Polish joke c. 1965

[@bradeki2997]

They stole that idea from AOC

[@MuchWhittering]

Well don't worry, with their Waterseer, they'll have plenty of water on the sun!

[@Zadamanim]

Water Seer can collect up to 11 gallons of water during a rainy day in a rain forest, if placed directly underneath one of those funnel-shaped leaves.

[@TheEncryptic]

Water Seer can collect up to 11 gallons of water if placed under Niagara Falls.

[@Tennouseijin]

Up to 11 gallons of water if submerged in a lake, river or any other dihydromonoxide container.

[@vysearcadia522]

Water Seer can collect up to 11 gallons of water if around 60 africans take a leak directly into it 3 times a day.

[@Zadamanim]

Vyse Arcadia 60 times 3 is 180... 11 galons divided by 180 is 0.06111 galons, which means each leak is 7.8 fluid ounces... that actually seems pretty accurate!

[@fsmoura]

Water Seer can collect up to 11 gallons of water if placed inside any container with volume greater than or equal to 11 gallons and full of water.

[@UFBMusic]

Young lady, in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!

[@nikhil-kulkarni]

The laws of thermodynamics do not apply to computer graphics of the Waterseer!

[@ninurtathricemajestic7179]

As for me and my house we follow the Lord.

[@simpleminded1uk]

Is that Lord Kelvin?

[@valaudae1809]

UFBMusic Thanks for the laugh. Pop Culture references go right over the heads of some people.

[@richardsolomon5375]

Damnit lisa, stupid perpetual motion machine

[@Rex-sy8ye]

Lindybeige: I think... Its a SCAM! Me: No way... what kind of moron would fall for a scam like that... *hides receipt behind back*

[@EvMund]

was your receipt for Lindybeige's kickstarter for "In Search of Hannibal"? In that case I certainly would be embarassed

[@dougalbadger4918]

@@EvMund did he ever release that book in the end?

[@Smathalgoth]

@@dougalbadger4918 It is still being worked on, somehow

[@GCurl]

"Kilogrammies" Lindybeige 2017

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

Weight of 1 liters of europen water.

[@redoverdrivetheunstoppable4637]

yeah, i was like "WTF!!" but it's perfectly excusabe in a continuous shot

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Kylo Grammys.

[@metamaggot]

@@JohnSmith-ox3gy of one grammy award trophy

[@foximacentauri7891]

@@mirzaahmed6589 Kyle-o'grannys

[@saveusbloodymess]

They are probebly just using Katana technology to seperate water from the air

[@MaxHimbigger]

saveusbloodymess u mean katara?

[@1967sluggy]

saveusbloodymess Surely firing bullets from a Spandau would heat it up immensely?

[@romkedeboer7378]

saveusbloodymess "katana fanclub" -lindybeige

[@MaxHimbigger]

I take it no one got my katara joke?

[@rwbimbie5854]

Well, Katrina caused a lot of flooding, so I guess Katana could as well

[@OutOfNamesToChoose]

I can't help but imagine Lindy as one of the following every time I see him: •A Benedictine monk •A Lord/noble •Smeagol (sorry, but its the eyes) •A Victorian engineer •A Mount & Blade character

[@NoahWeisbrod]

Definitely a Mount and Blade character. One of the snarky ones.

[@ieatvirgins]

I'LL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL

[@blackbaron9544]

You better not be a manhunter

[@thenerdylad882]

Victorian Steampunk Engineer and Lord Lord Loydd of the House of Lindy-Beige

[@InDeepPudding]

HOLY SHIT THIS KILLED ME

[@baltoflyer7503]

"I thought you could use the water in the air?" "There is no water in this air!"

[@Bigpimping-by6yj]

Balto Flyer amazing reference:’)

[@zoltanposfai3451]

Just change a single word and it makes sense. It's a money condensator.

[@hewkiirocks]

Best episode of Kickstarter Crap ever.

[@ormandjammer6669]

indiegogo* lets hope idubbz finds this in time lol

[@ragman150]

Lloyd's taking it to another level. He's actually going to visit the place to film it and expose the project. It's Indiegogo/Kickstarter Crap + Content Cop all in one.

[@miles11we]

David McCormick "... an smarty pants..." really?

[@rurushu8094]

Ormand Jammer Idubbbz*

[@Lievcocijo]

a lot of good shit has come out of bigger sites like kickstarter ...but yeeea you better be careful on what you decide to fund. Support me on patreon BTW.

[@Tuviguitar]

kickstarter crap, Lindybeige edition.

[@junoguten]

KSTV :^)

[@Tuviguitar]

this coment has more likes than my videos :(

[@christianwetzel2199]

actually kickstarter has better control over their projects than indiegogo. as far is i known you need to have a working prototype for such a campaign.

[@mlg_420quickscope]

Tuví Holy shit! :D

[@bennylofgren3208]

+Tuví That comment made me laugh and earned you another subscriber to your channel. You can thank me later when you've become famous. :-)

[@The_Butler_Did_It]

I've got a ,more realistic pitch for crowd funding Send me money Why? I deserve it!

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

"How dare you" says a Swedish box

[@eddielaur]

His videos are like a throwback of everything that was good with old KZbin. Ps. I absolutely love your videos, wealth of info, structure and style etc. informative and entertaining. Thank you :)

[@autolykos9822]

Yup. This is exactly the kind of "foreign aid" that gives everything else a bad name. I know a few people in the "bringing clean water to Africa" business, and the problems they struggle with are _a lot_ more elementary. For example: - Stuff that gets built with modern technology can't be maintained without modern technology. Spare parts run out, pipes rust, cement cracks, and in a few months the whole installation is worthless. - If there's anything of value, people will steal it. It's just a fact of life, and poor people can't usually afford the luxury of thinking about morals and the community. - When there's water somewhere, the richer people in the community will bring their livestock there to graze. Then the animals pee all over the place, and the water is polluted. What they actually need aren't cool gadgets that look good in a computer animation. They need the kind of tech that worked for the Romans, because it can be maintained by a bunch of illiterate people using stuff they can produce locally, and it doesn't contain parts that wear down, need to be replaced, or are worth stealing.

[@willnill7946]

Autolykos what they need is to help themselves. Poor people cant afford the luxury of thinking about morals, do you understand what you just wrote? Read it again and think about what you wrote.

[@nicolaiveliki1409]

@@willnill7946 I've been in the position where I had no income and was too proud to ask my dad or the government for help, and I did some minor ethical no-no's, because I believed it was what I needed to do to not feel hungry. I can only imagine that my no-no's might have increased in magnitude and frequency if I really had been abjectly poor with no prospect of improvement by 'honest' means. Necessity makes creative can be translated to poor makes opportunistic, and ethically somewhat indifferent.

[@kurdistanypg3160]

Roman thecnolegy if faar superior than that of africa

[@nicolaiveliki1409]

@Dave Richardson oh you know the usual minor stuff for which the statute of limitations has passed. Petty theft, distributing controlled substances, receiving untaxed wages

[@ivanmeza7089]

@@nicolaiveliki1409, sketch.

[@metatronyt]

Absolutely Brilliant

[@naufalfarris8599]

Why you didn't get many likes

[@usaisthebestiockdownpoiice816]

invisibility magic

[@Yes-gu2wn]

This will tick over to 2 years soon

[@mrmoth26]

Hello!

[@Yes-gu2wn]

@@mrmoth26 Hello

[@codymoncrief8478]

New insult: "My good sir, you are not terribly nice!"

[@MIck-M]

When colour TV started in Australia, I remember seeing an add in the TV guide that was selling a 'special spray' for 10 dollars (expensive) which you sprayed on your antenna and this would make your black and white set operate in colour hehe. Apparently it did have the effect of making a greenish blurry hue on the screen.

[@evan448]

Solar freaking road ways

[@pluransart1795]

"what are those?" "they're solar freaking roadways!" "whoa!"

+evan448 Bad example. They've already been proven to work. I'm not talking about the weirdo American product though, I'm talking about the Dutch version by Imtech and Ooms Engineering. Yields are roughly around 51% using traditional convertors, and at least 62% using a DC localised smartgrid. Why else do you think Thunderfoot keps silent on that despite several people sending him the documents with the numbers?

[@ndbiet]

He didn't silence on it. He linked EEVblog's video because that guys is an actual electrical engineer and he already did 2 videos crunching numbers on that solar side walk already. He compared the solar side walk with the rooftop solar panel a few street away from it and the number never lies. Solar road/sidewalk work, but not efficiently he said it again and again many times do you even watch his videos?

[@thepope2412]

We should worry about putting solar panels on the roads once we've ran out practical places to put them.

[@grave0x]

ikr

[@Zablock]

They didn't show simulations, what they had were animations.

[@brandom255]

Spot on! That bit slightly vexed me, too!

[@mattstanislen3165]

They showed a simulation of a scenario which happened to be animated. It was still a simulation..

[@Zablock]

James Mcnavery, a simulation would have actual math being done in the background. An animation is just some form moving graphics and doesn't follow rules like a simulation. If they had done a simulation then they would have known that their idea wouldn't work.

[@WM_46]

Indeed, a simulation is a way to model a system with inputs that you can change, it is not defined by having something to look at. What happens when a cannon ball is fired out of a cannon? Well let's simulate it with our kinematic equations to find the range for specific angles!

[@Tennouseijin]

+Zablock Awesomeguy Not necessarily. If they made a simulation based on a realistic model of physics, and with reasonable starting conditions, then yes, it would show that the idea won't work. But if they were to use a bad model or unrealistic starting conditions, then the simulation could lead to either totally random conclusions, or it's even possible to make a simulation that will "prove your hypothesis", no matter how ridiculous the hypothesis is.

[@merguetroidrittzlesnat2287]

Lloyd, I screwed up. My wife has been wondering why I spend so much time laughing whilst watching your videos with headphones on. I had started trying to describe the videos and reading her some of the comments, but it has led to occasional bladder leakage -- I shant say for whom. So she has started watching them with me. Today I came home from the shop and she was watching one by herself; she looked at me, said, "This fellow is a riot! I love his voice and delivery. He's really smart, too." She looked back at the screen, and then asked casually, "Dear, where are our passports? Ya' know, we've never been to the U.K." Lloyd, if you suddenly open your front door one day to a pretty blonde whom you don't know, but who introduces herself as Teri, please let me know.

[@sparetime2475]

Don't worry she can't separate him from his tanks at the tank museum where he lives in the TOG2*

[@DinJaevel]

Was she watching the video where Lloyd makes a case of why women should sleep with him? Then you're in trouble, mate.

[@elivai]

@Paul What the actual fuck? Is this a copypasta? It should be.

[@giampaolomannucci8281]

​@Paul Right on spot, man. I always get mad when they say "Europeans do this and that", as if all these countries had anything in common with each other. I'm Italian, I know we got nothing in common with Germany, Spain, Switzerland, France and so on.

[@JohnDlugosz]

@@giampaolomannucci8281 Things in common: the currency? Which side of the road to drive on? Eat using forks? Even with individual differences among members, I think Europe is, as a whole, different from China, different from the USA, etc. in systematic ways.

[@chimpaflimp]

A very pertinent video given the current circumstances of your own crowdfunding project.

[@briangarrow448]

Another internet scam. When I was a boy, those scams were advertised in comic books, on the back pages.

[@Magmafrost13]

Its so weird to me that that was a thing, that publishers were more than happy to print pages and pages of scams on comic books sold to children. Its disgusting.

[@AfferbeckBeats]

I'm still waiting on my X Ray goggles from 1972!

[@charleswood4635]

Don't need em any more , all the girls are naked on the inner net anyway--

[@RafaelRabinovich]

Thank you. I'll start crowd-founding for a new way to place satellites in orbit, but placing the satellite in a basket, chaining two griffins to it, and placing a dead sheep on a stick tied to the basket, such that the stick holds the sheep just a bit over where the length of the chain allows the griffins to reach. So the griffins will keep flying up trying to get the dead sheep, all the way to Earth's orbit. The basket then drops the satellite, and since there is no atmosphere, the griffins still chained to the basket fall back down to Earth. For a contribution of US$ 95.95 I'll send you a complimentary basket.

[@RafaelRabinovich]

And please do not fall for the Unicorn-powered baskets. They don't work. It is a scam!

[@Lowekinder]

Crows aren't exactly a demographic flush with cash. Maybe buttons, and some string.

[@cs1kanon38]

I am nothing save a man of logic and I spot no inconstancies at all. My money is yours if you name your two Griffin's David & Goliath.

[@shtuffs]

This needs more likes

[@steamboatmodel]

I am going to start a crowd-funding campaign to get Bob Barker come and steal your Griffins and set them free, also your dead sheep. After all it worked to get him to steel the Elephants from the Toronto Zoo and move them to a disease ridden compound in the USA where they died of disease.

[@SirMai]

yeah fine, thats a scam, but more important: Did he finish the rice monorail?

[@edgarbanuelos6472]

I'm just wondering if he turned off the ceiling light.

[@BY-bj6ic]

That's really more of a Shelbyville thing

[@chasbodaniels1744]

@B Y “But what about us brain-dead slobs?”

[@thewyj]

The video description is priceless! "Beware of crowd funding... support me on Patreon!" Love Lloyd.

[@ROBERTN-ut2il]

But he provides a product - his videos

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

Thunderfoot has an excellent video where he debunked the hell out of the "Water Seer". That thing would never in a million years function in the way that they claim.

[@MsHojat]

I feel like he may have seen it. He must have done some research, and it's hard to miss tf00ts video in doing so. That said, not all YTube viewers may have seen it.

[@2DReanimation]

Mshojat Yeah, well, as you see in his (thunder) follow-up video, the claimants responded to his video, saying a load of nothing (at least as far as the thermodynamics and actual science goes).

[@Birdofgreen]

Thing is, Thunderf00t made major errors in both the math and science behind it. Water vapor and steam are vastly different animals and the thermodynamics actually work once you understand that. The problem is (like Lindy mentions) you eventually start to remove the moisture from the base of the bulb because warm air with a low humidity tends to evaporate water. The bulb would need time to cool after each run otherwise you would lose the cooling effect quite quickly.

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

The real problem is this: The thing is designed to get water from the air, but they want it to work as a condenser. But they want to stick it in regions that are arid. These regions have very little water in the air TO condense. That would be the main failure of the device on top of the evaporation problem. I don't believe that the thing would even be able to condense enough moisture OUT of the air to even get a drop into it. Unless they ran it during the rainy season, and in that case, there's water pouring down anyway. You can't condense moisture out of dry air.

[@Birdofgreen]

Actually it is possible to condense water out of air with as little as 25% humidity if the temperature is high (100F reduced to 60F) but as you get colder the humidity needs to be higher. At 70F you need 50% humidity to condense water out of the atmosphere at a 50F. Again, the real issue is running warm dry air over cool moist air. The warm air is going to absorb the moisture and lose some temperature while the cold moist air is going to gain some temperature and lose moisture. If you captured an amount of air and condensed it without releasing it or adding warm air to it then you would have a working idea (think along the lines of ice buildup in a freezer). As it sits, without cooler than atmosphere airflow, you have no hope of condensing air at any temperature.

[@RaeSyngKane]

Dear lindybiege, This is a letter of complaint about your mud hut kerosene lamp fume comment. Nowadays the grass huts suffer the most from kerosene lamps and that's mostly from catching fire. I myself have never had any issues with the fumes in my huuuuuuuuuuujjjkkm. Sorry got a little lightheaded there for a bit on account of my allergies. Sincerely, Mr. Huffingtons of carbon monoxide

[@cryptosporidiom]

Dear Lindybeige, I would like to complain about you allowing commenters to leave letters of complaint in your comment section, particularly concerning personal anecdotes about how they themselves have not experienced a problem of some kind. I myself do not tolerate letters of complaint in my own comment sections, and therefore have never experienced this problem. Sincerely, Brigadier General Doctor Professor Sir William Gabriel Buxomley-Snyde III. Sr., Esq. (deceased) P.S. AAAAAHHHHHH!

[@TheRadioactiveFX]

Is this channel turning into the educational section of Monty Python?

[@maciek19882]

Dear Lindybeige, I would like to state my most serious complaint on the current state of discussion in your comment section. First of all the plena titulo commenters fail to properly use their titles, honours and post-nomial letters, which makes it quite difficult to properly respond to their insane claims. I myself do not respond to any comments to avoid confusion. I suggest using "splunge" as an group acronym for all one's titles. Sincerely, Sir Splunge Thomas "Tom" Tiptopton, OBE, Ret., Etc. (Dame) PS. Raindrops keep falling on my head...

[@billy4072]

you're a funny fekker. .......in your mind.

[@warmachineuk]

Lindybiege seems to be a historian, not a scientist, yet he debunked Water Seer. Using secondary school science. The same level of science taught in all Western countries. Lindybiege should not be praised because he merely engaged his brain. Rather, those scammed by Water Seer should be ridiculed for not engaging theirs.

[@nicolaiveliki1409]

Oh no, we must take affirmative action so people start rattling the gears between the ears. Sadly, that is the state of the matter: Humans are generally lazy in the brain, not to say stupid

[@gen-x_dude]

We All want to believe in something, it is human nature, sure we are standoffish to some extent, but there is a threshold where we WANT to believe in things even if they sound too good to be true, if for nothing else, but because we cling to the hopes of better world, and to say that if you give a little bit of your money, you can bring rainbows and happiness to to drought stricken places of the world... then so be it. They preyed on people´s good heart, and being gullible does not make a person "stupid" or uneducated, the things in this video are something that a good natured person may not take to heart while eating a pumpkin spiced muffin in the breakroom, they just pledged money "to be a good person"

[@al-imranadore1182]

@@gen-x_dude being gullible = being stupid

[@antoonvanmaris58]

@@al-imranadore1182 That maybe, Matthew Greet here, thinks he's smarter then the rest of us, I call That stupid !

[@daryld4457]

Shut up, Greet, you silly prat.

[@jaimembjesus]

You really should revisit this subject now in 2019. :D

[@sporegnosis]

Two things that don't mix together: the internet and critical thinking. Actually the device is an allegory of the scam in question, it's so poetic: 1. contributors loaded with money are siphoned into the tubes through you tube. 2. They enter a dark and cold hole in the ground where their money is concentrated to the scammers bank accounts "vanishing into a black hole". 3. then they are ejected and discarded by the other people rushing in since "it's too good not to be real" - "all that matters is that I'm happy & cool".

[@Tennouseijin]

Oh, they do mix perfectly together. One of the best ways to find all the scams and learn to never trust anything (without good proof) is to google anything. In fact, internet is much better at teaching critical thinking, than it is at providing factual information.

[@Eric-sy1xu]

sporegnosis The first bit is a bit harsh. I mean, without the Internet actually having critical thinking, neither Shad, Skall nor Metatron would've made videos saying that MatPat was shit. I mean, we knew that already anyways, but still.

[@MyMy-tv7fd]

no Liindybeige, you just put in deliberate mistakes to amuse us all

[@Anomen77]

We all know he's perfect

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

Have you seen the state of his pots though?

[@pinemartenemily9482]

But he doesn't masturbate over katanas!

[@mlg_420quickscope]

You're butthurt, because you donated a hundred dollars to bullshit.

[@lianhector9546]

What Liindybeige said makes sense.

[@steves1015]

Another great video - for some reason I’ve been watching a lot of your videos recently. These types of scams seem so prevalent, and you hit on something that scientists and medical professionals also have a huge issue with. Good scientists are usually cagey when talking about a subject such as medical treatments and will often talk using words like “likely”, “probably”, “possible”; and rarely use words that infer certainty. Someone who is dealing pseudoscience, most often seem to completely lack that compunction. Patient: “what are my chances?” Medical staff “well, this drug is our best shot, it has a lot of good research behind it and we have recorded data showing the efficacy in people, but the likelihood of success is only about 30% in your disease, and will depend on the extent of your disease. We will try it first and then use another one if you don’t respond, but we can’t make any guarantees.” Charlatan: “I have this amazing oil that will cure your disease 100%. It will also cure AIDS, Malaria, Ebola, and in-growing toenails. I discovered it through a dream. It’s 100% guaranteed to work!”

[@survivalbert7017]

1:30 it is not a "computer simulation" but merely a "computer animation" (big difference!) ;-)

[@romaliop]

@@happyfase There's a major difference, though. A proper simulation can be used to show that a concept works, while an animation does whatever you want it to do.

[@koekiejam18]

@@romaliop exactly a simulation might work even better at changing your perception, you can tell people its a simulation showing proof of concept. Even though your simulation uses borderline fictional parameters

[@MichaelJenkins910]

I used to design and managed crowdfunding campaigns. The problems you outline here are the reason I got out of that business. Thanks for keeping the light of truth burning--even if we must list a few kiliogrammes each time. ;)

[@dirkbaldorad3634]

Michael Jenkins kilograms are amazing, I myself own a few :)

[@user-wl4sr4tl7f]

Lindybeige Thunderf00t collab soon???

[@randomperson6303]

Олег Оленев please 😍😍😍

[@collinhalligan9921]

Олег Оленев that'd be great

[@RicardoFuertes1990]

please no. That guy is annoying.

[@RpattoYT]

I feel they'd have a difference of opinion on climate change.

[@isn0t42]

Please, no. Thunderfoot is too toxic.

[@ballsdeep2520]

A wise man always told me "believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear". The olderI get the more true it becomes

[@greenaum]

"Waterseer" uses no technology that wasn't available 1,000 years ago. How many 1,000-year-old water orchards are there in hot countries? Actually there's such a thing as an "air well" that uses the night / day cycle to condense water and those can be pretty good. They're not based on nonsense though like this is. The original Waterseer proposal was based around a statement something like "the temperature 2 metres below ground is always stable and cooler than the air above, through day and night". That is more or less true. Less so, when you're blowing kilowatts of heat into it all day. Then it stops being stable. Maybe some sort of windmill-powered compressor thing to cool air and condense water would work. The problem would be getting it done on a level of technology that's maintainable. And also having it be more efficient than just running some pipes from somewhere. Generally the middle of the scorching desert, you tend not to find people. Because it sucks there. People can only live near a supply of water. Bringing pots full of it into a hypothetical village built in the middle of a skin-roasting sandstorm, I can't think what even the point of that is. Like it's to "help some Africans" like a well-intentioned 3 year old might want to do. Engineers need to solve real problems, and throwing money at unicorn farms doesn't help anybody. There are many many ways to help poor people in the world. Stupid pipe dreams not being among the best. Might be good if people in rich countries understood poverty better.

[@ulyx9804]

Have you been watching thunderf00t?

[@wierdalien1]

David Hay have you ever seen him and thunderf00t in the same room? thunderf00t is an america though

[@ulyx9804]

Wait... is thunderf00t Lloyd's super hero persona?

[@KrisHandsome]

Alistair Shaw Isn't Thunderf00t a British guy living in the Czech Republic?

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

No? He lives in the Uk

[@KrisHandsome]

Autism is Uncontrollable I could have sworn he said something about living in Europe during Brexit whenever his detractors said he only cared about Britain's science budget

[@tunathehuman4076]

I love how he doesn't have any jumpcuts

[@Riceball01]

That's one of the things that I hate about Shad's videos, the constant jumpcuts, it seems like there's a jumpcut every other word. Another bad one is Kristin Joy Weiss, love her videos but they're full of annoying jumpcuts, but I think they've gotten better.

[@nikitas1841]

What are the other things? Let me guess: repeating himself, bad audio quality and pretentiousness?

[@Riceball01]

No, those really don't bother me that much, it's his general goofiness and (for lack of a better term) nerdgasms that bother me more. When he keeps his videos a little more serious with delving into the goofy or nerdiness that he tends to get in into I really enjoy his videos, that's except for the constant jumpcuts.

[@tunathehuman4076]

who's shad?

[@SupaThePink]

+Tuna The Human Shadversity on KZbin

[@KatTea]

I've been sharing this video so much recently, a bunch of my very well meaning buddies have been sharing the water seer video, so I'm sharing your video to add some perspective! thank you

[@MrSuperpiff4]

You are so right Lloyd! I almost got scammed by a charming fellow pitching me a Hannibal Book.

[@TreeFrogOnATree]

I trust him to deliver

[@Zakalwe-01]

Oh, the irony of this video. 🤨

[@chrisallen108]

"Anyway... Swords"

[@keeperofthecheese]

Still waiting for more weaponry/war tales lloyd !

[@cpt_nordbart]

this Monorail system sounds intriguing.

[@yaziyo]

Is there a chance the water seer could bend?

[@RossTheNinja]

yaziyo not on your life my Hindu friend

[@beaconrider]

Remember what P.T. Barnum said? "There's a sucker born every minute".

[@CyndraMystic]

Thank you, I learned a lot from this video. It's alright to doubt especially "well meaning" campaigns, even if your friends praise it, and always look for proof.

[@pokeface119]

Thunderf00t also made a video about them, If i remember correctly what he proved is that in the best possible conditions the Water Seer produces 1 liter per week. And That's if it works. Not to mention, wouldn't bugs and dirt go into the water seer? Yeah as still water is clean.

[@MsHojat]

1 liter a week (in a very humid environment) sounds like a number from Fontus debunk, not Water Seer. I could be mistaken though.

[@pokeface119]

maybe, its been too long so i could have gotten them mixed up?

[@nitelite78]

Better to start with the assumption that any fundraising campaign is a scam. Then try to prove it isn't a scam before considering giving it your support.

[@HarryBalzak]

Shhhhh, don't tell people that. Parting fools and their money is capitalism at its finest.

[@andrewsmith2880]

My first reaction when I saw the Waterseer video: they go out of their way to tell you how far these ppl walk to get water. Why don't they live closer to the freaking water?

[@stormisuedonym4599]

My question was why they didn't make canals, ditches, or pipes to carry the water.

[@seangallagher9435]

The water turbine thingy is just an expensive version of putting a plastic bag on a tripod, putting a rock on the bottom and getting dew to drop down the bag so you get like half a liter a day

[@court2379]

Except they are trying to extract the water from the air, not the soil. It may be be much harder to get much out of dry desert air.

[@danielhale1]

I remember falling for Solar Roadways. I backed it for $70, then investigated and thought better of it (obviously bunk), but it was too late to retract my bid. I got rid of the T-Shirt as soon as it arrived (donated to a thrift store), and I'm still disgusted with myself for being taken for such a fool.

[@juleswoodbury2387]

i want a lindybeige and idubbbztv collaboration so bad now...

[@danielkovacs3358]

Lol, how many people are there who watch Lindybeige AND idubbbz? :D it must be a pretty small niche, but I'm glad it exists :D

[@HistoricaHungarica]

BU- BU- BUT EYEDOOBS!

[@seaofscissors]

Jules Woodbury damn, they actually look quite alike, don't they? At least, it was quite easy for me to imagine Lloyd saying "i'm gay" while squatting and wearing a lime swimsuit.... oh boy.

[@juleswoodbury2387]

the more and more i think about it, the more it actually sounds like a terrible idea. The camera has to be miles away to capture both of their faces (you know because lloyd is a giant and ian is a malnourished dwarf) and also there'll be like 10 people who would watch this.

[@deathboy0188]

Really though there would be quite a few who see it thinking "what is this, I click on it now" and watch it from both channels

[@MikeStrom62]

Thank you so much for this Lindybeige. I try hard not to be the knee jerk cynic who just says "It'll never work", even though many of my friends think that is my position. People confuse skepticism with cynicism all the time. But, having a skeptical mind set can make one a party pooper, since for every idea that actually could be useful, there are a near infinite number of ideas that are simply impossible, so you end up saying "Nope, won't work" a lot.

[@XDlolzz999]

"ow there is this thing called water seer, seems quite good to me!" Lindybeige 2018

[@merguetroidrittzlesnat2287]

As @Paul Harrell would say on his firearm videos, "Which one do you think is best? You be the judge." :)

[@robo336]

I'm tempted to donate enough money to the waterseer campaign so I can name one of the orchards "this is pee".

[@2DReanimation]

robo336 Lol! I wonder if 4chan is already on it...

[@shorelockhomes943]

L.O.L.

[@CraftQueenJr]

robo336 as

[@merguetroidrittzlesnat2287]

I love it! I was laughing so hard whilst trying to read your comment to my wife that I may have just made an inadvertent deposit into that particular WaterSeer you named....if I can get that turbine to wring out my skivvies....

[@masterspark9880]

I’ll name mine ‘Hitler’s Penis’

[@suomenmegamanzero]

The ironical part is that first he warns us about the dangers of crowd funding and after that he recommends us to fund him on Patreon. Edit: People already pointed out that there was no real irony. Pardon me for being an idiot.

[@mistahsusan2650]

is he withholding content to those who doth not cough up?

[@spikeychris]

Not really they aren't remotely the same thing.

[@suomenmegamanzero]

Wy Vern Of course not, I just pointed out the humour in that connection. I understood completely his point and I don't have anything against his Patreon.

[@Jst4vdeos]

Wohvelivoro That's not ironic. His thing is educational aka no prototypes, no false promises, nothing similar except the fact that they want money. Check your definition of ironic

[@wierdalien1]

Jst4vdeos-Amway check yo stagin

[@Claidheambmor]

I love this video, have watched it multiple times and sent it to friends to check out. So much sense is spoken here.

[@michaeldougfir9807]

It's difficult to reply succinctly to those who are led astray by these fallacious projects, offers, etc. For I am a Christian, and my New Testament says I am not allowed to call someone a FOOL. Previously phony offers were on the TV. Old people and the unthinking flocked to them in droves! Years ago I lived next door to a 90 year old spinster in New Jersey, USA. She saw a little hand-pushed snow plow on TV. She asked my opinion. My first question was, who is going to push it? That was a new question in her old mind. And there were other points too. But she bought it and saw in short order she had wasted her money. I especially detest ads and signs in stores that declare, AS SEEN ON TV! Since when is that a recommendation!??? The TV ads that misled SO MANY people, especially the elderly, were so successful that they have now moved to the Internet. Why is there so little WISDOM any more? Or insight? Or at least learning from mistakes, be they yours or those of others?

[@rambard5599]

Sadly, people don't change that easily, and some attitudes and behaviours are sort of part of human nature. Naïveté is one of those innate flaws of most of us. But frankly, I don't think it has anything to do with it being too succesfull on TV. The thing about the internet is, that it's way, *way* cheaper to advertise on it than it is to advertise on TV.

[@Poodleinacan]

And Thunderf00t also debunked the WaterSeer.

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Soo, this organic rice monorail ... where can we buy into that ?

[@arthas640]

in Springfield, Shelbyville, or North Haverbrook.

[@greenaum]

It may not function at all, it might be impossible even just in theory to have a monorail made of rice. But if you CAN have one, then THIS one is organic! So I'll throw 50 in, just in case. Better than one of those awful pesticided fertilisered rice monorails they might possibly want to have, those Monsanto bastards.

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Oh you two bloody bastards, I had happily forgotten about this, and not thought about it for two years - And now you necro my old post !! 🤣

[@I.C.Weiner]

Mono means one. Rail means rail.

[@jnealcarr]

I am a new viewer and I started watching your channel, oh a few weeks ago maybe, as I have been researching and trying to learn about ancient civilizations and I found your description of what the Iliad was really about to be just brilliant. And in some regards, I enjoy listening to you because we both share a talent of digression, meaning being able to digress... and perhaps digress again, and perhaps go down several layers of digressional layers and then come back up and drive your point home, whereas the average human of mediocre intelligence will digress once, attempt yet another, and then forget what it was they were talking about and then excuse themselves saying they lost their train of thought, which apparently derailed shortly after leaving the yard. Basic. Simple. You are complex in a clear way that is easy to follow and as I debated whether to stop watching you as clearly you are a nutter and must be ordering cocaine through Uber Eats, or you are like me, blessed with a high metabolism, a rapid mind, and those who cannot follow, well, don't look back... you strike me as someone who deeply cares about humanity and you might stop to aid the old lady having heart palpitations of the mind... bleh bleh... I am getting off-topic, let's get the thought train out of the carriage house or turnabout thingy... LOve the channel, and you're someone I count among many I listen to and watch and learn a great deal from. So many of your videos are older, such as this one and the one previous was your video on youtube and the mystery of their algorithms and was some bot about to eradicate your channel next, etc... this one auto-played next. I was already feeling a sense of increased appreciation when I clicked the petition over your fellow KZbinr, ThengThrand, only to discover that it was concluded and the result was remarkably positive. Well done, guys. So, right off as I listened to the point you were making on why Waterseer should be highly suspected as being a fraudulent fundraising campaign, I was in full agreement and tsk tsk... ah, but this is an older video and I was curious to see, after you challenge at the end, just what the outcome was. I was happy to see many articles on Waterseer being exposed as a hoax. Spot on. You called it. So I just wanted to take a minute to say hey, right on man, you were right..... which now has turned into 20 and my employer wonders why I am always a few minutes late to work... fortunately today is my day off and the only thing I am late for is... oh, i don't know, watering the plants with this new amazing system I just bought that pulls not only water from mid-air, but also collects fertilizing particles too so that when I water my yard, I am also providing ample nutrients.... No, yeah, no... I am joshing... I would be interested in learning why joking is sometimes referred to as joshing... come to think of it. Cheers

[@thePavuk]

Thunderf00t made new video about them. 2019 and they still trying. Now they sell repacked $200 dehumidifier from amazon for $1300. Thunderf00t found exact model they resell.

[@colbonthecob2530]

As I read the comments of this video. I feel as if your message is falling on deaf ears.

[@PipPanoma]

The top comments are all asking for collabs.. How disappointing.

[@MongyBongy]

ColbOnTheCob I agree but i figure most people just didnt comment but understood

[@hanss3147]

but ears of corn are also deaf

[@Strideo1]

I'm going to start a campaign to send divining rods Africa. it'll be cheaper and just as effective

[@zizkazenit7885]

That's what I was expecting when I heard the name "Water Seer"

[@crashandburnbirner]

Zizka Zenit hey, they work not for vodoo magic, but for finding burried underground lines be it electric or water.

[@salvatoreshiggerino6810]

Isn't that what perverts put in their pee holes?

[@LohJiaHung]

Salvatore Shiggerino No that's r/sounding

[@Novous]

I have to admit, the first time I read your comment I thought you meant "Rods from God" which was a proposed weapon system during the Cold War using highly dense tungsten rods in-orbit. The kinetic energy from one being launched toward the Earth (with NO EXPLOSIVES onboard) would compare to small, tactical nuclear bombs. So basically, my first thought was "This guy wants to Kickstart a cure for Africa by killing everyone... Alright, you've peaked my interest. Let's hear his justification."

[@gideonmele1556]

Asking for money for nothing and sitting in DC is a time honored tradition for the past 200 years

[@ANoBaka]

I loved you before, after seeing this, I love you more. This sort of thing is sadly needed, and you made it easily understandable for everyone.

[@MiG-21bisFishbedL]

I have no idea why this video popped up in my feed, but I'm glad it did. Skepticism and military history? Great work and content! Subbed.

[@pluransart1795]

I said the same thing a month ago.

[@CommissarMitch]

This reminded me of the Solar Roads, which yes I fell for until it was proven false.

[@CommissarMitch]

The idea was that the roads would be made by solar cells, and making energy.

[@thorr18BEM]

Mike Fluff , though a solar road is now being driven on, in Tourouvre au Perche in Normandy. arstechnica.com/cars/2016/12/worlds-first-solar-road-opens-in-france/

[@originalhgc]

At an insane cost. Solar roads have got to be the dumbest idea in the history of ... anything. The disparity between the ideal properties of the surface of a road and the surface of solar panels is vast. You could put a roof over the road, loaded with solar panels angled for maximum exposure, and the cost and effectiveness would skyrocket. Or, I heard about people putting solar panels on the roofs of buildings. Do you think that might work?

[@thorr18BEM]

originalhgc , I have solar panels on the roofs of three buildings. It does seem to work better than roads.

[@immikeurnot]

Just because you build something doesn't mean it works...

[@theuncalledfor]

When it comes to pure scams (that is, scams that do no direct, physical harm to anyone), the ones that prey on people's will to do good are the most despicable. They cause indirect harm to anyone in need of help by making people less willing to help for fear of being tricked, and punish the very will to do good. It's the most evil thing you can do without directly getting people hurt.

[@marioborg7142]

Well said Lindybeige! Waterseer also doesn't tackle the problem of bacterial build-up in the water container, which is bound to happen, making the whole system useless.

[@Cloud_Seeker]

Well.... why should you care about that when it doesn't collect anything?

[@lohphat]

EXACTLY. Initial investors are usually rewarded with stock certificates for taking the investment risk so they too may profit if successful. Giving money to ventures without asking for equity is naïve. Most ventures fail. By definition. Your money represents the fruits of your labor. Don't squander it. This is. It the same as donating to an ESTABLISHED charity which is in place and functional giving support to others. Supporting operating costs of charities is important. That's why they're usually tax exempt. Ventures on the other hand, are not. If successful, they may mean huge profits for the founders. Now...if the venture is non-profit then perhaps that may be a good choice since to fund seed money without equity. If it's a for-profit venture, then ask why they're not offing stock instead. Big. Red. Flag.

[@dahfighter9914]

love you man, thanks for the incredible videos.

[@petepeterson1659]

comrade clarence yep

[@nyatrue401]

My first observation of the water seer is, won’t dust be blown down the tube into the water? Thats another problem I noticed other than the difficulty in condensing hot dry air into cold air such that it generates water

[@nutsaboutnuts927]

I love how Lloyd does it all in one take. So many videos are heavily edited so the track is chopped every few seconds, making for a result which sort of stutters along. But this video does not do that. A true professional.

[@BiblicallyAccurateToaster]

Back in my unscrupulous days & before easy internet access decades ago, my friend & I used to dress preppy (wearing the local highschool colors) & go door 2 door saying we're raising money for our "highschool orchestra" (even though we had already graduated.) We even found the actual highschool's schedule of performances & made flyers @ Kinkos so we looked even more convincing. We would do this 2x a month hitting a new neighborhood each time. While no individual ever donated more than $40, it added up quickly. Looking back now as a mature law-bidding adult 😇, it shocks me how easy it was to fool the average person. I'd say maybe 1/20 ppl had enough commonsense & critical thinking skills to question us & not "donate." This is just a digital version w/ a similar structure. Believability & pulling @ heart strings will always empty the wallets of suckers.

[@hankrearden20]

DangerMou$e Thumbs down.

[@Baconbits16]

There's a lot of dumb people out there willing to listen to anything. I'm convinced now that at least 50% of all people in the US are not self-aware. They just do what they were programmed to do by their parents, their religion, n social media etc. As long as they're approached within the confines of their borrowed values, say for example under the pretense of god or a valued media icon, people will donate/whatever in droves. Televangelists and many others have proven this.

[@Legitpenguins99]

@@willnill7946 woah way to bring race into this, you bigot

[@swetcan9268]

i wonder how big the overlap is of Lindybeige fans and Idubbbz fans.

[@Kahgro]

And people that have great taste in waifus

[@Farifafaa]

Swetcan me

[@providedyeti1518]

Swetcan hello there

[@jamessutherland3585]

One here

[@JavaIsnom]

I don't imagine that Venn diagram has much overlap, unfortunately enough.

[@pyroman7196]

Hey there @lindybeige ! You should take a peek at Thunderf00t ‘s videos on the waterseer, he’s a physicist which shows the math that it will not work, along with exposure to where the money goes to waterseer, THEN they tried to have his videos deleted for “threats of violence, break and entry, harassment to employees, etc”

[@Itstakoma]

This is literally a classy episode of "Kickstarter crap", love it.

[@Marcrussell12]

No Beige shirt? This channel is going to hell in a hand basket.

[@aromuskosincalti1479]

it's under the sweater, he does this commonly.

[@fsmoura]

dont forget beige underwear

[@cs1kanon38]

The world's gone mad. Take refuge.

[@Marcrussell12]

THATS NOT BEIGE

[@Marcrussell12]

ITS OFF WHITE

[@wesofx8148]

Assume everything is a lie until you see proof.

[@Ian-nl9yd]

do you have absolute proof that the earth is round? everything in moderation, buddy

[@0IIIIII]

WesOfX do you have absolute proof that George Washington was real?

[@Poldovico]

Eeeh, the earth's not round. It's a spherical geoid.

[@douglasp2469]

Poldovico Which means it buldges at the edges right?

[@Poldovico]

That's an ellipsoid, the rotational solid created by rotating an ellipse. A geoid is like an ellipsoid with a rough surface.

[@StephenTovey1960]

thanks for this video....its good to be reminded about the scammers that exist out in the real world...

[@1970DAH]

They have started shipping units. What they built was a $1087 dehumidifier that has to be plugged into the electrical grid. It does *not* work on wind power and it does *not* go into the ground. What an absolute disaster of crowdfunding.

[@CplSkiUSMC]

Nicely stated. It seems that not only is critical thinking not taught in school anymore, but it is downright discouraged. If someone is critical of something, they are simply being pessimistic or discriminatory or a host of other derogatory names. Stupid people are soon parted with their money... always have, always will.

[@Meteor_pending]

I bet it could work in Scotland.

[@lechevaliermalfet1]

LoL

[@heartoffire8481]

no shortage of water in glorious scotland

[@pesadjo]

I once lit a cigarette in Scotland. 5 minutes later 11 gallons of water had gathered around my lips.

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

At Michelem Priory in East Sussex, they have a revolving spit which works on the same principle as the light you mentioned.

[@seeker093]

Good advice. It can be too easy to get caught up in these things that look good on the surface but are actually questionable upon closer scrutiny. Sometimes it’s impossible to tell if the need is real. A poster familiar to me asks for help burying a deceased baby, my personal preference is to give a minimal amount & oh well if it was a scam.

[@johnbeauvais3159]

There's something about the way he speaks that I just enjoy. The combination of sarcasm and accent just makes everything he says fantastic

[@Stan_Delone]

And all that energy. He's so animated when he speaks.

[@johnbeauvais3159]

Marcwulf Yes he is, almost excitable

[@Stan_Delone]

And it's great. Makes for a very entertaining watch.

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

Lindy, most of us africans don't live in fucking mud huts. wtf man xD

[@macob6076]

You dont? My worldview is slowly crumbling apart!

[@jeannebouwman1970]

But some do and they don't have electricity, or am I wrong?

[@wierdalien1]

Bart Bouwman no you aren't. but Africa's rich live in much more developed cities than we normally see in the west

[@ServantofBaal]

Most.. This is probably for the ones who actually do

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

If you're talking about the primitive tribes then sure but they are extremely extremely few. Everyone have electricity and lights in all the villages I ever visited.

[@LintonHerbert]

OK. Forgive me. I can't help myself. "What is the difference between a Frenchman and a piece of toast?" "You can make a soldier out of toast."

[@greysson2933]

The only thing worse than this Waterseer nonsense would be getting crowd-funding for a historical graphical novel and nothing being published four years later.

[@andrewharrison1194]

@Alex Beasley. But, in LindyBeige's defense, a graphical novel is feasible and will (I hope) eventually exist. Waterseer is just a scam, plain and simple.

[@vonclaren1]

He stole $200,000 USD off your former fans with that comic book scam. He even gets away with it scot free, taking down Chris (the artists) reputation whilst he's at it. Meanwhile he continues to operate an highly profitable youtube channel wherein the audience are totally unaware of his deceit. He took the money and ran. Just another scamming, thief / manipulator.

[@greysson2933]

@@vonclaren1 Chris recently stated that he'd gotten new material to work with so maybe it'll come to fruition. Or maybe not. Crazy either way.

[@ralphmcmahan2139]

I have zero idea what naught means.

[@ChanceGrant]

Ralph McMahan zero

[@PipPanoma]

naught literally means zero. Other synonyms include: null and nothing. It's a british thing to say.

[@Detoyato]

It's not specifically a British thing to say because it also is said by people who are not in Britain nor British...

[@narnbrez]

...get it?

[@purpleprinc3]

Are you American? Do you ever use ought? Thinking about it, I never heard an American say it.

[@blind1337nedm]

i was just thinking about how i could stand to watch another of your videos. keep them coming, top-notch!!!!!

[@purpleprinc3]

I've never heard the reverse of that phrase, done well.

[@charleswood4635]

notch-top !!!

[@iceguy9723]

When I first read about this, it was obviously a scam. However, it made me wonder that if it did work, wouldn't the environmental effects be devastating?

[@whoeverofhowevermany]

"If it's too good to be true then it's not true" sure is good to finally hear it said clearly