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[@DeeFPV]

ther is a OpenTX 2.3.13 as well see OpenTX 2.3.13 (2021-06-24) OpenTX 2.3.12 (2021-06-14)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It literally just released today didn't it. What unfortunate timing LOL.

[@noobFPV]

@@JoshuaBardwell Sync problem :) Train just arrived.

[@DeeFPV]

@@JoshuaBardwell eney ider how to get rid of the SD CARD Warning 2.3v0038 i no i can get this up into notepad 2.3v0038 but not shor what to chaine the number to

[@FlyturboKwad]

@@JoshuaBardwell Back to the drawing board

[@oleg146]

it's just a quick fix for horus and t8

[@RobbofpvGaming]

I've been in this hobby a few years now and it still blows me away, how much work by so many people goes in to just simply making our quads fly better and that includes you JB, the amount of work you do to just keep us up to date with literally everything.. High fives all round..

[@erickh5291]

Thanks Josh

[@douglasshackett8747]

Every question I had about what a GPS with compass would do and not do was answered here! Awesome attention to detail, thank you for not assuming i things and thoroughly explaining each step necessary! I'll use a link in the description to buy my GPS with compass.

[@bertbeinaaf8314]

Aha. I’ve been waiting for this. Thanks 👍

[@bkmahaffey]

Thank you for your insight! I have clarity and I have learned something!

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@bugsy742]

Thanks for making and sharing JB 🤜🏻🤛

[@fpvlive]

Thanks for you effort you always put in your videos. Actually express lrs runs fine on my NV14 running opentx 2.1.18 (flysky branch)

[@bkramber]

Thanks, Joshua! You are the best!

[@kottonfpv2666]

As usual great video brother man

[@ClubbyGT]

Thanks again for the update and helping me understand it 👍👌

[@BrandonBeans]

@10:35 trying to write the firmware and still in storage mode. You need to unplug, power down, then plug in while off so it connects with the stm32 driver (I believe the Impulse RC driver fixer may help here) then the companion app will flash the new bootloader followed by the otx firmware.

[@Zzxii]

Good timing as I was just looking for a vid to update to 2.3.12, well now 2.3.13. But either way, thanks again.

[@johncitizen3361]

I’ve been running the TBS nightly build since last year, will be nice to get rid of that warning screen.

[@kennyfication88]

Good to see that Crsf shot is finally a thing. I used it already because I use expressLRS. Yesterday I switched to edgeTX

[@Reecefpv]

Thank you JB iv been trying to figure this out because I want to have shot for the new TBS sixty9.

[@Clif_Brown]

I've been running TBS's version of OpenTX that had CRSFshot for months on my old QX7. There is also the new EdgeTX that runs on OpenTX radios.

[@bushythebird]

That has to be the best outro I’ve ever heard. Screw you too JB. Thanks 🤙🏼.

[@fishballfpv9063]

LOL. EdgeTX has that touchscreen function already but yeah..that outro..

[@keysersoze6499]

Great video thank you. I have been wanting to use crsfshot without using a nightly.

[@dr07828]

using the USB on the radio may be slow, but companion provides a synchronize SD card tool. This will only update older files to the newest ones. If you use this tool you don't have to go and save all your sounds and lua scripts and whatever. I like to download the new SDCARD. Then I make a backup of the current SDCARD just in case. And then I use synchronize to update the files. It's always a good update this way. I usually just set it and walk away and let it do it's thing. BUT.. If you don't want to use the USB due to speed, you can pull the SD out and set the Radio folder in the tool to the sd card and it will work as well. Usually when I am updating opent TX it's usually not a hasty process and I am not rushing to get it done. Its not something you want to rush.

[@pacificnorthwestpilots6050]

Love the thumbnail!

[@magicsmokemitlothar7377]

Great vid

[@Atlas_FPV]

Thank you

[@yonimushermusic]

I'd just like to say a big thanks for being so thorough in your videos. Very few KZbinrs will be so thorough in making sure that the viewer knows exactly what's happening and what they need to know to successfully follow along :)

[@bstearn1653]

Thanks!

[@dieFPVler]

Oh, they want to bring up touch support, while on my DIY transmitter I plan to dort that out^^ May be it also depends on screen sizes :)

[@hateeternalmaver]

I'm a big OpenTX enthusiast, thanks Joshua Bardwell! 💋

[@hateeternalmaver]

And yes, the prospect of a video about the fork _does_ sound interesting! ;)

[@WezleyVarty]

Just FYI - 14:37 the ExpressLRS custom build gives us the ability to flash the .elrs firmware files to supported TX modules straight from the handset (I.e after you flashed the BL).

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That was my suspicion. If you always flash via passthrough or WiFi do you need it?

[@WezleyVarty]

@@JoshuaBardwell passthrough is more for the RXs rather then the TX. Wifi and USB (for modules that have a USB port) can be used though, and then you wouldn’t need the custom build. The ability to flash .elrs was something that Raph was planning to merge into OTX, but I’m not sure if that’s made it in yet. Haven’t tested if EdgeTX has it by default either yet.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Hmm. I see. So you still want it to flash .elrs to the module. Understood.

[@chrisyoung8062]

Wow, just wow.

[@moek]

Be extra careful with the MicroSD slot as it is extremely fragile specially on the Jumper T-18, I personally plug in the radio and use as a card reader even if it’s slower just so I don’t have to fiddle with inserting the card.

[@alejandrovegas2792]

Id love to hear about options for those of us with a Tango 2! Please cover if edge tx works on tango 2. Thanks and loving the content!

[@biggfpv2721]

Tango2 didn't ever have that issue

[@alejandrovegas2792]

@@biggfpv2721 sorry I meant other than freedomTX. For express LRS and being able to use openTX companion

[@alejandrovegas2792]

also id love to see how to configure express lrs the best way on a tango 2!

[@jeffclassics]

Joshua please talk about TRUST policy by the FAA for enlightenment. Thank you.

[@wongalahara8196]

That's dope yuuhhh

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

ELRS uses 500hz I'm assuming that was not added to this release? I didn't see it mentioned in the release notes.

[@nistax2880]

nice edge tx vid

[@airtechfpv]

Thank you lord Jesus opentx

[@joshuaflores7506]

I have a problem with my drone I can't find any videos on it but idk really what to even type it's yaw in betaflight will sometimes move slowly and be 20 points off of center so I trim it so it's centered and if I move the sticks around again it'll be 20 points too high and it doesn't seem consistent any suggestions?

[@jvdejesus05]

@Joshua Bardwell I know that I'm already late to the party about CRSFSHOT, since I'm just going to do it now and seeing that there's already OpenTX 2.3.14, this means that this has the CRSFSHOT right?

[@camarochip]

Have they added the quadcopter setup model

[@AntonVolkovIsAwesome]

Nice video! Thank you! How may I apply this tutorial to radiomaster tx16SE? I suppose it has a bit of custom firmware... or not?

[@oryfoxer]

Are you going to do a video on edgetx?

[@youzrnaim]

So, should I be running OpenTX 2.3.13 or EdgeTX 2.4?

[@marc_frank]

Andrew Newton has tried EdgeTX already does it have crsfshot, too?

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

So is crsfshot just less latency from sick moving to drone reacting?

[@ralfobk]

EdgeTX FTW..... Opentx coming soon

[@stixdrones7720]

I tried this update on my X9D and now I get constant Telemetry Lost/Recovered messages from the radio. I am using Crossfire. Any Ideas?`

[@kenspaceman3938]

Is FrSky ACCESS supported in OpenTX 2.3.12?

[@TheMadmacs]

you know when you are trying to find something around the house? and while searching you find something else you were looking for two weeks ago but arent doing right now, then you find something else you realize you need to do now, then while doing that you realize you need to find something else and that this other thing won't work, then you find it and start putting it in and realize you need to order a new thing from banggood to make this fit, and while ordering on banggood you see a couple of cool things that might work too and so you watch a youtube to see if it will work, but that youtube is for another radio, so you hit the forum to ask if this will work with your radio, ? ... thats what this video is

[@hazzahfpv6675]

Does this support CRSF v3 already as well?

[@raincloud4326]

Kool

[@L00n3y2010]

I'm still rocking the expresslrs 2.3.10 build. Still works like a champ, so i don't have a need to update my radio

[@laurynasagejevas1200]

Running edge tx already haha

[@stevejakab]

When will crossfire shot come to Tango 2? Please do a video on this

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Tango 2 has it always from day 1.

[@edoardodeluca1463]

Hi Joshua, what about people using freedom tx? do they have the same issue or it's already fixed? Thanks in advance. Edoardo

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Freedom tx has the fix since day 1.

[@scu-dub]

Yes!!!!! Yes!!!!! Yes yes!!!!! All I have to say lol😁

[@neon7fpv799]

why did I check no lua?

[@reggiebannister1080]

i want touch screen support i have a touch screen and im been waiting a longggg time for it come on open tx hurry up

[@BBFPV]

2.4???

[@xavier_arthur]

I'm lost 😭 Don't understand anything you're talking about yet

[@wmcewa01]

ELRS works great on 2.3.12 !

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

That's one I have cause ELRS. I never bothered with crsfshot . I still don't understand why I need it lol

[@wmcewa01]

@@divingfalconfpv4602 if you have .12, I think you have it already. It means lower jitter which is a higher quality radio link. You can see it working on your elrs LUA screen. If you're set to 250hZ, you'll see 0:250.

[@wmcewa01]

@@divingfalconfpv4602 see the below from the ELRS wiki: "Also the Lua script was recently updated with an important feature, top right it shows an indicator 0:200 which tells you how many bad UART packets and how many packets/second it's getting from the radio. It can be used to confirm the communication between the Radio and the R9M module is working properly. 0:200 means : 0 bad packets and 200 good packets (per second). The value should match the selected air rate (200 for 200Hz, 50 for 50Hz, etc..) If it doesn't and is stuck at 250 that means crsfshot isn't working."

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

@@wmcewa01 oh ok yeah mine reads right on ELRS. only thing noticed is at slow hz I get TLM packet error. Have to raise TLM rate. My actual crsf I never looked if crsfshot is on.

[@adilsongoliveira]

OpenTX 2.3.13 was released right after 2.3.12

[@mr.relentless4117]

Didn't 2.3.11 already support ghost? At least it did on the t-lite

[@kappaFPV]

Ive just been waiting to use the touch screen on my TX16s....

[@shawnwise2458]

Does this update it? Never mind I had to watch the rest of the video to get my answer😑

[@nico26061998]

Just use EdgeTX

[@joevo2]

Give edgetx a try

[@richardamiss7000]

It really bugs me that, as smart as OpenTX is, they can't seem to label the SD Card downloads to match the version!

[@rckyfpv]

I tried esc configurator but I think i messed us something. I flashed an ESC firmvare ant it's not working. what firmvare should i flash to get me back to normal? Please help

[@Ryet9]

Whatever the lastest is for the BLHeli_S Configurator.. the S version not 32 if ur still talking about ur Meteor65, could also use Bluejay, as suggested earlier. Product page: Factory firmware: O_L_5_REV16_6.HEX (later versions O_H_5_REV16_6.HEX)

[@matthew_borserini]

Are you interested in selling your beast class drone

[@onnovannoort7690]

Can we now run ExpressLRS with this update, do I understand that’s the case?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I believe ELRS works fine with 2.3.12.

[@alainassaf]

If I flashed the special elrs_opentx firmware, should I download 2.3.13 ?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Some people would desire to be in an official build which includes features and bug fixes not in a nightly.

[@aerialimagery3216]

If I am running tracer, will CRSF V3 take care of this issue or do I still need to do this update? Thanks.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The heartbeat sync issue that crossfire shot fixes is separate from crossfire v3 which is a new air and wire protocol.

[@aerialimagery3216]

@@JoshuaBardwell great, thanks!

[@iihhaatteeggmmaaiill]

Hey what's up with FAA trust test? Does it apply to FPV?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes it does.

[@SensorDelay]

I'm running a Nirvana I bought from RDQ in January. I still don't know how to update it or know if there's a new one.

[@rockman49er]

Oh man mine was a paper weight never ever got to use it

[@mattiawolffpv7157]

Dude, search on KZbin "favsky updating Nirvana" and follow along. It's easy and it's a great radio. The negative comments and reviews are from two years ago, it is now a mature product with a stable firmware (flash the latest official Flysky, it should be 2.1.18, with the SD card content 2.1.17)

[@rockman49er]

@@mattiawolffpv7157 thanks but i already sold mine wish i could have used it because it was awesome felt good in the hands

[@itaimiller9116]

I updated and all seems to work, however when switching models in the radio (I have one set up for LR and one set up for freestyle 5 inchers) - my Tx won't connect to the Rx until I go into model set up on the radio and click on the external protocol, switch out of and back into CRSF. It does it every time. No need to rebind, just need to change the External Protocol. Anyone else have this issue? I'm on a Taranis S9D+ 2019 SE.

[@stiktech]

just run the update on mine and having the same issue, every time i switch the taranis on i have to deselect and reselect the crsf eternal protocol for it to connect, im running the taranis x9d+SE (pre 2019)

[@stiktech]

ok i just fixed this by updating my external tbs module to the latest firmware via tbs agentx

[@itaimiller9116]

@@stiktech will give it a shot. I updated my TBS a few weeks ago but will check again!

[@itaimiller9116]

Nope - tried refreshing 2.3.13, refreshing my crossfire Tx (already had the latest but redid it). Same issue. :-(

[@itaimiller9116]

Figured it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4mkkH-LrtKUl6s explains it. I had different receiver numbers set up (from my old days of flying Helis i still had the habit). Apparently as of 2.3.10, you need to set your crsf models to receiver 00 on the setup page. Just tried it. Works like a charm.

[@ojkolsrud1]

Has anybody upgraded their Tango 2 through TBS Agent X? Will the latest (unstable) release there include CRSFShot? Thanks!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Tango 2 has never had the bug that crsfshot fixes. Another way to put it is all Tango 2 do crsfshot.

[@ojkolsrud1]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for the reply! This is what I answered someone else when they asked on our local group. FreedomTX should have perfect integration with crossfire at least, so CShot is not needed.

[@Tweety1965]

will this work on the tango 2

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Tango 2 has had this fix from day 1.

[@rckyfpv]

Hi! I'm trying to change the PWM freqency to 48Khz on my Meteor65 by BLheli32. When I connect the FC, error messages poping up and it won't detect any of the ESCs. The battery is connected and the boot note plays. What should be the problem?

[@Bean-Time]

What error messages?

[@AndyDreadFPV]

I'm not sure the ESC in the Meteor65 supports BLheli32. If you want 48kHz and RPM filtering flash the ESCs to BlueJay.

[@Brian-S]

Try esc-configurator.com instead. You are trying to flash a blheli s esc with blheli32. That will not work lol you need to use blheli s

[@rckyfpv]

Found no ESC configuration: ESC#1: --- ESC#2: --- ESC#3: --- ESC#4: --- Than Found outdated 4way-interreference revision v20.0.0.4

[@rckyfpv]

I tried esc configurator but I think i messed us something. I flashed an ESC firmvare ant it's not working. what firmvare should i flash to get me back to normal? Please help

[@traviscook5144]

Can I have your jumper?

[@MrSabram07]

Wow forget it

[@user-vr1qv6qe7f]

Frsky has had opentx 2.3.12 for a while for the qx7 access. Does their version also have cfshot or do i need to get it straight from opentx?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Last I checked FrSky has removed all crossfire support from the builds they distribute. If yi uare running the FrSky version I don't think you will see CRSF as am option

[@user-vr1qv6qe7f]

@@JoshuaBardwell I mean i still have crossfire lua and crsf is an option for the external rx. And i have 2.3.9 from frsky.

[@grounddodger3212]

@@JoshuaBardwell So for those of us on FrSky (I'm on Xlite Pro and R9MLP external module, both ACCESS) I should run the latest from Companion instead? Wonder if it will effect my RaceMode (4ms mode) on the Archer RS receivers....

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I have only got one radio to check but for me I don't see CRSF in the external module options.

[@mistercohaagen]

Crown Royal and Starbucks Frappuccino shot? Sounds nasty.

[@solderbuff]

But OpenTX doesn't it call it CRSFshot. They call it "Synced pulses".

[@rishithakur1551]

Everyone except those using frsky? 😁

[@andrewjamez]

Open tx to fork edge to...😂

[@Stand_Tall]

well this had unfortunate timing

[@lmxhappyvalley]

CRSFSHOT and Crossfire Just Like JavaScript and Java

[@StillGrayProductions]

Anyone running elrs and 500hz , do not use 2.3.12 or 2..3.13 , there’s bug that limits or doesn’t support 500hz. Go edge tx or stick to the 2.3.10 special nightly build for elrs

[@allennickles3970]

Is this reported on ELRS Discord?

[@qilingandfriends]

@@allennickles3970 i saw it on their fb page

[@allennickles3970]

@@qilingandfriends I appreciate you putting this out there! I been running a nightly build for three months. And was thinking of updating until I seen your post. Thanks for the heads up!😀

[@qilingandfriends]

@@allennickles3970 No worries buddy. I converted all the flight to ELRS and been waiting for OpenTX to come out with 2.3.13 and it seems they mess up the 500hz again. So, i just switched to EdgeTX.

[@allennickles3970]

@@qilingandfriends EdgeTx support ELRS 500hz mode?

[@CheapSushi]

Whoops, I thought this was going to be about AMD GPUs.

[@luismahieu]

I think it's time to update your intro

[@Sugar_K]

Your kidding right....even Tbs has replaced crossfire shot with cfv3... so instead of of poorly scaled 10 bit data we now have 11bit full resolution stick data.. this video is 6months ours date frankly but hey I guess you learnt somthing today

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Sorry but I think you have made the exact mistake I was trying to explain away in the video. Crsfshot is mixer sync bug fix inside opentx which applies to all protocols. Crossfire v3 is a new iteration of the crossfire protocol which includes over the air and over the wire changes. TBS implemented the mixer sync bug fix in 2020 and called it crossfire shot. It is different from CRSF v3. The point is, mixer sync bug fix nee crossfire shot is desirable to everyone even those not running crossfire. When people ask, should I use crossfire or crossfire shot, or, will crossfire v3 replace crossfire shot, that's the mistake this video is trying to clear up.

[@Sugar_K]

@@JoshuaBardwell it wasn’t a bug.. it was never implemented properly.. until a year ago.. let’s just say thanks to TBS been willing to actually work with BF now tracer and crossfire v3 are the best radio links on the market right now 😁

[@JoshuaBardwell]

"Failed to implement properly" I would call a bug, but potato potatoe. Crossfire V3 I don't think fixes this issue regardless. Kudos to TBS for implementing the fix that the OpenTX devs ignored for too long. Tracer and Crossfire best radio link? Hmmmm.... ExpressLRS has much more consistent jitter and Ghost is implementing a new mode that uses 500 Hz dual-antenna diversity to produce a 250 Hz link that is nearly immune to dropped packets. I don't think there's a clear winner in this market, and that's amazing for consumers.

[@Sugar_K]

@@JoshuaBardwell not any more ghost and elrs have some catching up to do with tracer right now.. granted all the firmware is in alpha but the work has been done

[@Sugar_K]

@@JoshuaBardwell hopefully elrs move to cfv3 protocol soon and embrace 11bit. 10bit does not provide enough resolution to get the most out of any of the high speed links

[@paulgeorge1069]

It amazes me to see people wasting flying time to put these micro changes into your gear. If you can't fly like the best fpv pilots. Go burn packs. This will never replace skill. Steele doesn't even use smart audio lol. There's nothing more annoying then turning on your radio at 2 am. To have it talk to you. Besides doesn't the More crap you put on your radio have an effect on the radios speed? I don't see the point. If it ain't broke GO FLY!!!☠️

[@nickfrazier8013]

It’s called a “hobby” my friend. Some people like tinkering

[@seacprogrammer8455]

I'm kind of angry. With the new laws coming out against the RC hobby I was grateful to have a few TRUE "Kabob" toothpick frames. Long story short. I went to make a FC replacement (that apparently I didn't even need to do) (either that or this new FC already has a bad ESC WTF!) anyway . I cant get Betaflight 3.5 loaded from anywhere. I got the specific 3.5 hex for the Mamba 411 AIO. BF wont let you load that old hex from version 10.7 Configurator. Sooooooo I got the BF Configurator 10.4 (and this bitch completely wipes my existing betaflight install folder even though it was installed to ITS OWN FREAKING FOLDER ( FML ) Tried Emu flight , I figured this was a sign from God hahahah NOPE !!! that froze up my FC had to use boot button to get Betaflight 4.2 (whatever version is current)back on the damn board. Thank god for boot buttons! And yes that means uninstalling BF 10.4 and re installing 10.7. Tried the new board after re-soldering all that tiny stuff (marvelous that the NEW Mamba 411 DOESNT LABEL THE Soldering PINS WTF) Lazy Motherxxxxxxs anyway... I fire it up with Bf 4.2 after applying my dump from 3.5 & resources / what have you and she shimmies like she is going through withdrawal. Like a crackhead in the desert. Oh and of course my questionable motor which I assume as usual was a bad FET on one of the ESCs is still being an ass hat. So now I still, have to swap that motor, just to confirm. HOW THE HELL DOES ONE LOAD BetaFlight 3.5 these days? Whatever plunger or lube is required to accomplish this majestically insane feat I need to know!! PLEASE ANYONE ...because tuning a 3" 2S a toothpick on BetaFlight 4.X is Complete Fuckery

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Manually download the bf 3.5 hex file from the github repo, then "load local file" instead of "load online" and flash it from the current configurator .

[@seacprogrammer8455]

@@JoshuaBardwell Will attempt that AGAIN thank you for the reply pretty sure I've tried that a few times to no avail betaflight_3.5.7_MATEKF722SE.hex && betaflight_3.5.7_MATEKF722.hex for the www.getfpv.com/matek-systems-f722-std-flight-controller-w-f7-32k-gyro-bfosd-barometer.html