Crumar Seventeen quick sound taste

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video is intended just for let you hear the sound :-)
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[@AdamBurseMusic]

Great work Marco, that was awesome man 😀🤘🎵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@marcoballa]

thanks a lot!

[@giorgiotibaldo]

Grazie!!!!

[@lawrencemichael9263]

Much better EQ and fuller fidelity than any of the other online Demos. Probably a much better amp. Nice playing and nice sound. Still want a wood core keybed to get the real Vintage Vibe that Crumar is shooting for.

[@marcoballa]

Thanks for comment 👍🤗 This was the direct Left/Right out from the instrument, into Zoom videocamera line in. Nothing more 😁

[@PaulMayer-n1i]

Marco lovely playing. Have you ever had the chance yo play a Vuscount Legend seventees ?

[@marcoballa]

Ciao, thanks for comment 👍 Yes, I tested the Legend '70s too. Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp_ZhGqtgpenpKMsi=PfMJjwO1tB1zjPBa

[@marcoballa]

And here 😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2irhH9se52EZ8ksi=PEgSDvOhD1NK_0_B

[@insupark0820]

Sounds great!

[@marcoballa]

Yes! Rhodes, same virtual modeling engine of the Crumar Seven. The best simulation ever. All other sounds are sampled and sounds great! (same samples of GSi Genuine Sounds vst/plugin - feel free to see my recent videos -). Thanks a lot for comment 👍

[@insupark0820]

@@marcoballa Ya... I'm using GSi Gemini. A Great sound module. BTW... smooth transition when parches are switched would be an icing on top.

[@emanueledipaolo8508]

Grande Marco!!! veramente molto interessante questo crumar...

[@marcoballa]

ciao e grazie per il commento! Concordo al 100%, bello strumento (i suoni poi sono derivati da quelli VST Genuine Sounds - miei video recentemente pubblicati - ) PS: rhodes a modelli fisici è lo stesso del Seven!

[@SimplicityForGood]

Hello, I hope you’re doing well. I have a few questions about the product: Does it have built-in speakers? If not, could you recommend some speakers that would pair well with it? Does it come with a pedal? If not, which pedal would you suggest? Does it include a table or stand? If not, what table or stand would you recommend? I also found a B-stock version for 111 euros-do you think that’s a good option, or would you advise against it? Additionally, I’ve been considering the Korg SW2 and the Roland FP-60X. I’m wondering if this could be a better choice for me, especially given the more affordable price. The Korg was fantastic, but it’s over 2000 euros, so I’m exploring other options. I’d really appreciate any advice you can offer! Thank you so much for your help. Warm regards, Chris

[@marcoballa]

Ciao Chris! Thanks for comment 👍 Concerning your questions... - no, it does not have internal speakers (in studio, a 2.0 studio monitors system with 5" or 6" woofers, or 2+1 system with a little subwoofer can reproduce the quality of the Crumar Seventeen) - don't remenber if it comes with a pedal (but any sustain/damper pedal can work) - it does NOT include a stand, so I recommend to consider its dedicated optional four legs system in order to preserve the vintage look - B-stock at 111 euros? not possible 🙂 (maybe 1110? yes, it's a very good option)

[@SimplicityForGood]

@@marcoballa Yes, I meant to add a 0 there.. ha ha.., ok what main difference is it with the more expensive 7? When you say it holds only samples, does it mean one cannot tweak the sounds as much as one can on the Crumar 7 or can one tweak the sounds as much on the Seventeen or how do they differ in this regard? thanks for getting back!

[@marcoballa]

@@SimplicityForGood ciao! the Seven has more or less all the samples piano included in the seventeen, PLUS it has 8 virtual modeling engine (Rhodes, Wurlitzer, CP electric grand, Clavinet, FM/DX, MKS, Vibraphone, Acoustic Grand Piano). it has the "classic" Fatar TP100 keybed and the editor (both for pc/usb and for smarthphone wi-fi). the Seventeen has just ONE virtual modeled piano (the Rhodes, exactly the same of the Seven). same keybed and (at the moment) NO editor (you can edit sounds directly from the instrument with the onboard display).

[@SimplicityForGood]

**@marcoballa** Oh, I didn’t realize the Seventeen was more limited compared to the Seven. I’m thinking about buying the Seventeen but want to make sure it won’t feel too restricted over time. 1. **Will you be adding more pianos and sounds to the Seventeen,** like those in the Seven (Rhodes, Wurlitzer, CP Electric Grand, Clavinet, FM/DX, MKS, Vibraphone, Acoustic Grand Piano)? Will there be a way to download these to the Seventeen? 2. **Sound adjustments**: On the Seven, you can tweak depth, speed, tremolo, and other settings using the knobs. Will the Seventeen allow similar sound modifications through the menu in the future, or will it always be limited in this aspect? 3. **Differences between the Seventeen and Seven**: Could you explain more about the key differences in terms of sound engine flexibility and possible updates? I’d love to buy the Seventeen, but only if it can grow with more features over time. --- Oh, non mi ero reso conto che il Seventeen fosse più limitato rispetto al Seven. Sto pensando di acquistare il Seventeen, ma voglio assicurarmi che non diventi troppo restrittivo nel tempo. 1. **Aggiungerete altri pianoforti e suoni al Seventeen,** come quelli presenti nel Seven (Rhodes, Wurlitzer, CP Electric Grand, Clavinet, FM/DX, MKS, Vibrafono, Pianoforte Acustico)? Ci sarà un modo per scaricarli sul Seventeen? 2. **Modifiche del suono**: Nel Seven, è possibile regolare profondità, velocità, tremolo e altre impostazioni usando i controlli. Il Seventeen permetterà in futuro modifiche simili tramite il menu, oppure sarà sempre limitato in questo aspetto? 3. **Differenze tra il Seventeen e il Seven**: Potresti spiegare meglio le differenze principali in termini di flessibilità del motore sonoro e possibili aggiornamenti? Mi piacerebbe acquistare il Seventeen, ma solo se può evolversi con più funzionalità nel tempo.

[@marcoballa]

@@SimplicityForGood yes, the Seventeen is €500 less than the Seven, so you can expect that the Seven is still the "flagship" 🙂 the Seven virtual modeled pianos, clavinet, etc. cannot be added to the Seventeen (different board, different sound engine). the Seventeen has just the virtual modeled rhodes, (the same of Seven). all other sampled sounds are the same of Seven and you will be able to add new sampled pianos in future, exactly like on the Seven. editing: the Seventeen allow most parameters adjustment, but you do not have the editor (at the moment). feel free to discover any other detail here: www.crumar.it/files/Crumar%20Seventeen%20user%20manual.pdf

[@bojackhorseman5367]

the sound from 5:30-5:55 sounds very much like one of the piano presets on the MKS-20

[@marcoballa]

Yes 👍

[@bojackhorseman5367]

@@marcoballa awesome - I was aware you had the MKS-20 Epianos on it, but didn't realise it had the 'acoustic' pianos too. Is this also on the seven? (I've been on the fence about getting a seven as a more portable alternative to my 88 note stage piano since before the seventeen was available).

[@marcoballa]

@@bojackhorseman5367 this Seventeen has just ONE virtual modeling engine (the rhodes piano), same included in the Seven. All other sounds are sampled (some of them are available for the Seven too). The Seven has several virtual modeling engines (rhodes, wurlitzer, clavinet, CP70, acoustic piano, FM/DX, MKS, vibraphone) and sampled sounds too 👍

[@hellitastenfan]

Hi Marco,...my favorite is the piano from 2.10. !😉😊 ciao

[@marcoballa]

ciao! thanks for comment! here both physical modeling and accurate samples. great instrument...

[@FC-jp7ez]

Molto interessante, geazie per questa bella suonata. Ti chiedo, che tu sappia il GSI Gemini riproduce i suoni Rhodes con la stessa qualità abbianando una buona tastiera pesata?

[@marcoballa]

ciao, grazie per il commento! certo, il motore sonoro a modelli fisici del Rhodes di questo Seventeen è esattamente lo stesso di Seven, Mojo61 e Gemini. viceversa Seven e Gemini hanno motori sonori a modelli fisici in più rispetto al Seventeen. poi ci sono i campionamenti di piano acustico, e in generale Seven, Seventeen e Gemini hanno gli stessi suoni (chi uno in più, chi uno in meno 🙂). Gemini ha poi mille altri suoni in più, inclusa una sezione synth virtual analog spettacolare 👍

[@FC-jp7ez]

@@marcoballa grazie di cuore della tua risposta, non si trova molto in rete sul Gemini. Considerando che con 400-500 euro si trova usato, difficile resistere alla tentazione di portarsi a casa anche soltanto quei suoini Rhodes, suppur immagino che solo una tastiera pesata possa farli apprezzare in pieno. Grazie ancora, buona serata

[@marcoballa]

@@FC-jp7ez sul gemini mk2 c'è più memoria per caricare i samples aggiuntivi (pianoforti vari, tra cui anche proprio il mio CP70 🤣 )

[@lawrencemichael9263]

Still hoping that Crumar will switch to the new Fatar wood core keybed. I think it is the TP400 although some say it is the TP440. Either way, maybe a little more expensive, it would be perfect.

[@marcoballa]

Thanks for comment! Yes the TP40 (now the new TP400 is on the Studiologic Numa X Piano GT) is a great keybed, maybe overall the best compromise. But almost 10 kgs more than the TP100/TP110. Also, all the phisical internal project for Seven and Seventeen have to be changed in order to introduce the TP40/TP400... People always ask for lightness, and for that purpose the TP100 is the only solution at the moment 😀😫 Maybe for the new upcoming products...

[@Soundartprojekt]

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[@marcoballa]

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[@jonnreyna1]

Do you like the 17 better than the Seven? I would like to know your sincere opinion !?

[@marcoballa]

Ciao, thanks for comment! I still prefer my Seven, with all the virtual modeling engines (not included in the 17) 👍😁

[@jonnreyna1]

Ok thanks! That's good to know! I was doubting to get one myself?!

[@marcoballa]

@@jonnreyna1 😁 it sounds great. The rhodes modeled piano is exactly the same of the Seven. All other sounds are sampled (some are included in the Seven library, some are not). Same keybed. The 17, at the moment, has no external editor...

[@giorgiotibaldo]

domanda...non ho ben capito, se pur guardando molti video su questo Seventeen se è alternativo al Seven o è tecnicamente un pò inferiore,lo chiedo perchè esteticamente mi piace molto di più il Seven ma questo è un prodotto più nuovo e costa meno...Grazie!!!!

[@marcoballa]

ciao, grazie per il commento! il Seventeen ha solo un motore a modelli fisici (il rhodes), esattamente identico a quello del Seven. il Seven ha molti modelli virtuali in più. poi ci sono i samples, e più o meno sono gli stessi sui due strumenti. il Seventeen ha la nuova meccanica TP110, forse un pò più fluida rispetto alla classica TP100 presente sul Seven. ora c'è anche il nuovo Parsifal, 88 tasti con meccanica ancora più pianistica...

[@giorgiotibaldo]

@@marcoballa Grazie mille , spiegazione esauriente!!!

[@stevec.1802]

How is the build quality and reliability of this keyboard?

[@marcoballa]

Ciao, it's like any other keyboard on the market. Maybe more quality than the last (all plastic) Kurzweil, same quality of other brands

[@tylerthompson1842]

So many cheesy sounds that I wish you could swap out for different ones like the Nord library. But I will say their Rhodes sounds are incredible and much better than Nords not to mention it feels more like you’re playing a real Rhodes

[@marcoballa]

Yes, agree. The rhodes is totally physically modeled, same engine of the Crumar Seven. Best digital rhodes clone around, compared to my 1972 MK1, both for sound and (expecially) dynamics (it's "alive" under your hands, something totally different from a sampled sound)

[@tylerthompson1842]

@@marcoballaoh I know the Rhodes and Wurly matched with the feel is worth the price alone. Have to remember too it’s a fraction of the cost of even Nords lower range stuff. It’s really what everyone wished the Korg Sv1 was 15yrs ago. Can’t believe it’s been that long since that came out lol

[@gliufrate]

Non fare il modesto

[@marcoballa]

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