How to Avoid Disastrous Bluffs in Poker

[@dormie9]

Paused at 9:00 97 is the nut low.. we still have that beat

[@DLHarv]

When it comes to euros Bart is down for violence every time 🤣

[@Mauricio-kf8qx]

What does Bart have against euros? Bart plays the same nitty style of poker that they do

[@AlexDavis-cp9ny]

He doesn’t like them coming into his games and decreasing his edge 😂

[@DLHarv]

@@Mauricio-kf8qx euros aren’t typically nits. They play wild mostly, it Twas a joke that obviously went way above your head no worries. Cheerios.

[@jrod24]

​@AlexDavis-cp9ny wrong. He doesn't like how they behave at the tables and also that they come in groups and don't pay taxes.

[@sareykim]

⁠@@jrod24- to add, they'd win big, take it all oversea & that money would never be seen again. multiply that several 100's of times and this will have an overall impact on the poker money pool. i'm paraphrasing what Bart had stated in the past.

[@mikehohenadel5563]

Caller said he woulda called the turn w AK or AQ having as gutshot to a 3. A 3 comes and a straight is on board lol

[@joncorb540]

He was referring to the flop

[@mikehohenadel5563]

@@joncorb540 no, watch it again. He specifically said during turn discussion that if he had AK he would still call, therefore that would let him represent it if an A or K hit on the river. Watch it again if you disagree, but I'm not gonna continue this

[@blairjohnson6014]

@@mikehohenadel5563Herbedy derr habedy blah!

[@Dexerion]

Yay a good ol fashioned leveling war.

[@1vailchris]

Either start your bluff with a 2/3 pot bet on the turn, or just check-call turn and check-fold river. Otherwise, if you're going to bluff the A on the river, bet 2/3 pot, then fold to a raise. The V flat calling pre from the CO is going to have so many more value hands here than hero will as the PFR in the HJ.

[@bradleyhines604]

This is one of my favorite call ins ever.

[@manifestyourlife6]

Tough table. 😳

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

If you want to continue beyond the turn here, the only option is to bet the turn yourself.

[@ArmonPajouheshnia]

Agree.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

I agree. No one is ever checking 87 or 3x on the turn in hero’s spot.

[@MrJamberee]

Yes, but better to just let it go. The chances of success are low, there will be better opportunities.

[@topthecat2259]

A south American Euro 😂

[@Badbentham]

Interesting hand, as Villain should actually have neither a 3 nor 78 after the Turn, and likely no set, while Hero telegraphs either a weak pair or some draw with either 7x/8x or Clubs. - Thus, I do not quite know whether I can like Villain's bluff, given the amount of suited Ax combos (A2s/A4s/A5s/A6s/ A7s/A8s/ Axcc) in Hero's range that may easily level themselves into the situation of a crying call after the River blockbet . Hero's shove makes little sense after the previous play, and excellent call with the blocker from Villain, though.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Why can’t villain have a 3 or 78 after the turn?

[@Badbentham]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj He *can*. - *If* he checked the Flop behind IP with a draw and then followed up with a min-bet with a nutted hand on the Turn: How realistic is that exact scenario?

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@Badbenthamfair point on the 3x. 87 is only a gutshot on the turn and there’s 5 people in the hand, 3 of whom naturally checked to the PFR. I can see checking that behind. You’d think that hand would then bet bigger on the turn, but after it checks to him again, maybe he figures no one has much?

[@dajerseyrat]

Owned yourself...This is what happens when you level yourself. Tilted aggressive players will NEVER fold, know your opponent before you try and run bluffs.

[@Stockhandle123]

67 is a better hand to call with than 3x

[@dajerseyrat]

@TheTree1 absolutely. Neither players line made much sense. And trying to run a pure bluff with zero equity on a tilted Euro is just suicide.

[@williamjohnson2864]

@@Stockhandle123because of the 7 blocking the nuts?

[@lukixpogo2254]

Yup bluffing someone on tilt is burning money. Especially on a line that makes no sense

[@Stockhandle123]

@@williamjohnson2864 yup. I don’t think you can call here without a seven or an eight. Just like you can’t bluff here without a 7 or an 8. The only value is literally 87.

[@ArmonPajouheshnia]

Nice analysis. I think the best play is to raise the turn and represent 7-8, same as Bart said. Because we block the nut straight and even if we get called, hero can barrel again on the river or check and give up if we don’t think our opponent can fold. We can take the play away and apply the pressure, it will work at least 60-70% of the time. The lesson is always, Do your own betting, Do your own raising and represent, that is what wins in cash game poker. You don’t always have to have it. ♠ ♠ The way the hero played the pot was dangerous because he decided to repairs on the river and not raise the turn card, it’s not optimal and the line makes no sense to a good opponent. The opponent was a semi calling station, hero calling 2nd pair no kicker.

[@TheGuyCalledX]

The turn definitely gave away the bluff on the river. No competent player is letting the nuts get checked through after the flop was already checked through. It makes the likelihood of 78 doubly unlikely from villain's perspective. The problem is hero's story is as full of shit as villain's on the river. He went from checking, to repping the ace, to supposedly trapping with the nuts. It's just such a polarized spot, and the odds are good enough, that it's hard to fold a hand with any showdown value. I just don't see us getting many better hands to fold at all.

[@cargopants417]

I don't really agree that villain wouldn't raise the river with a 3. There shouldn't be a ton of them in their range, but Hero's line is super weak and looks like AX or maybe Aces Up, I would happily raise a 3 or a set for value in villain's spot. Now by 3-betting the river Hero is repping only the nuts with a weird line as if it was some kind of blocking bet to induce a raise... too fancy, just let it go and don't try to re-bluff a steamer when he's still getting decent odds on the jam. It would have been a good spot to catch the bluff with the AX you were representing.

[@henryschumann442]

It occurs to me that one gives other players too much credit for making the correct play and thus thinking one can pull off a complete bluff at a low stakes live game. I’m not expert, but I’m either check folding any street after missing the flop, or c-betting the flop to “see where I’m at” and potentially gain position if CO folds, which the won’t having top pair and a gutter.

[@losyart]

Wow both of you guys high-level hand readers(Hero and villain) with great unconventional play (Hero) It probably would work vs a lot of opponents i assume . Im impressed by this hand . Well done

[@terrysword7739]

“Euro-south American” 😂😂😂

[@cial67]

Villain absolutely should raise a 3 on the river

[@daddyyu-gi-oh4330]

That was a sick call from the euro to be fair

[@ticenits1926]

This was just an ego play all around, the best hand caller can represent is a hand his opponent is likely holding. Save the fancy stuff for HCL

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

The 3 bet by hero is repping 87 exactly. But what 87 opts to check turn when: 1. Second last to act 2. Making the nuts 3. The flop checked through 4. The turn brings in a flush draw. And on the very rare occasions 87 does check flop it’s surely check-raising vs such a tiny turn bet. Hero’s line doesn’t credibly rep anything to me.

[@martindim7182]

The whole call, I couldn't concentrate on anything else but trying to figure out, was the villain a Euro or South American 😅

[@Moneyovertruth]

Cool hand

[@giodido]

Someone can explain me what “South American-Euro” means?

[@JiveDadson]

Not really.

[@pot_kivach160]

That's when South America becomes part of eu...then everyone who lives there is that. Just like jalapeño birthday cake, or a sheephorse, arctic mosquito, african polar bear, , etc.

[@Chemissed-qc1bt]

So Bart refers to Euros as a type of Pro who isn't good for the game, plays well but has no interest in the long term of keeping the game friendly/fun so the recs, fish and whales want to keep coming back to the casino. Typically has headphones/doesn't talk much. This tends to be more typical of European players but could be from anywhere

[@pot_kivach160]

@@Chemissed-qc1bt and that European happened to be from S. America!

[@Chemissed-qc1bt]

@@pot_kivach160 yeah that's how I interpreted it

[@EllieBanks333]

I did not like a single decision the caller made in this hand. The pre-flop action made me wonder what his table image is also.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

I think his preflop and flop decisions were fine. From then on not so much… You make a good point about the pre-flop action though…if you get 5 callers it’s clear the table thinks you’re full of it. In which case 3-bet bluffing the river isn’t the best plan 😂

[@EllieBanks333]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj My issue with his pre-flop is the hand selection. I just don't love 98 because of it's straightening interaction with broadway. I could see limping this hand or raising bigger, but hero goes $5 short of the mathematical standard. And yesssss sO many callers makes me worry his image is too loose for this kind of play. My issue with flop is based on later streets; I'm fine with a check/give-up OR fine with C betting this flop. It's checking flop & then putting more $ in later I don't like. Fun fact about the turn here: the only hand hero is beating is 97. Literally any other hand is ahead of him.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@EllieBanks333 I mean yeah 98s isn’t my favourite hand either but I don’t think open raising it is a mistake. I guess you can nitpick about the size but there can’t be that much different between opening $55 and $60. I think the turn is where hero made his first significant mistake especially in light of the river.

[@engertas]

If you are OK to pay $250+ anyway, why not just re-raising the turn with the same amount?

[@MrJamberee]

He shouldn’t be OK with doing anything here except folding. Trying to figure out a way to win EVERY pot is insane. Just fold.

[@hansari8697]

I think villain could raise A5+ vs the river block. I don't think OOP every has better with this line.

[@boiisheesh6062]

Yeah not raising turn is probably a mistake. The river play by both players is just unnecessary. Shipping it with that hand is probably okay but the problem is that a three will have to call/ can’t fold bc it could be a split aswell.

[@mikehohenadel5563]

Oops, Bart just made that point right after I posted

[@Jermo484]

Did he say he'd have called with AK on the turn with a gutter... because that's a gutter to a chop at best lol.

[@jeremyhahn3612]

As a bit of a devils advocate, if we are getting called by middle pair then why cant we be raise jamming with a 3? Hell if i saw my opponent call wiyh 76 it seems correct to shove any Aces up hand we have.

[@francoisgendron9762]

Nice punting tutorial from this caller.

[@fredsmit3481]

What is the name of the "euro"? I play at MGM.

[@Fred-rg5vw]

A 3 defn raises..imo. villian was on tilt , hero stated.

[@deleee2313]

What a sick hand haha

[@AlbinoMutant]

Opponent's turn bet was screaming 6x. I was thinking 76 or A6. I liked the turn call instead of a raise because it looked so much like turned top pair. The trouble I would run into in this hand would be on the river where I would have put A6 in his range for two pair. So I would have just check-folded the river when I missed my gutter since I would be anticipating a raise if i tried to bluff at it. Better to just let him value bet and fold when he does, to my thinking.

[@pedro.gandra]

Why would anyone RAISE with A6, you are onto nothing bro

[@AlbinoMutant]

@@pedro.gandra Lol, i meant call.

[@TheGuyCalledX]

So you're calling the turn purely on the odds of hitting your gut shot? Even with the price we're getting, I can still see folding the turn. It's going to be hard to get paid OOP even if we hit the gutshot (which only happens ~8% of the time) because it counterfeits the other straights. Out of the options on the yurn, I like check-folding the most, then betting ourselves, then check-raising. Check-calling is my least preferred line when you're drawing so thin.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@TheGuyCalledXif you’ve got 98 and V has A6, you’ve got overs plus a gutshot.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@TheGuyCalledXbut yeah I agree with you that I prefer betting ourselves to check-raising or check-calling. We can much more credibly rep a 3 or 87 with that line. Folding is fine too I think. Depends on our table image. If we’re known as a bluffer probably best to just let this one go.

[@Dylan-vm4gl]

Im sorry but you don’t have 78s after you check on the turn and you never have a 3. What are you repping? 2 pair for value? He can put you in a box now with his raise. I would absolutely raise a 3 if I’m for profit. Please tell me you’re not about to shove

[@tehblogger]

this hand is such a mess....why not raise the turn and shove the river, if you want to bluff here? I really don't though 5 ways because CO can have a 3 fairly easily and we rep just 87s specifically. Just fold the turn and move on.

[@dennisdupuis1567]

Agreed but he could have escaped super cheap by limping pre then call the small turn bet hoping to stack him with a gutter or check fold the river

[@pot_kivach160]

​@dennisdupuis1567 that's exactly what a CS thinks.

[@pot_kivach160]

Right. . Alternatively, cbet flop, blast turn, and give up if somebody called ya.

[@TheGuyCalledX]

Technically, 97 would be the nut low 😂

[@user-kx6yp8cm7w]

At least 97 would have a double gutter to a 3 or 8

[@user-kx6yp8cm7w]

I think the hero fell into a common mistake. Hero is thinking of all the hands that HE thinks he is repping. The only thing that matters is that the VILLAIN THINKS you could have. So the question is not “can I have 78 here”? It is rather “will villain believe I have exactly 78 here” Raising big pre-flop, checking flop, and check calling a small bet on turn does not look like hero has 78. Then when hero donk bets the Ace on the river, it looks like hero could be repping the ace. The villain was most likely raising to push hero off an ace. When hero shoves, it does not make sense as any ace would probably just flat call. From villains perspective, it looks like hero is changing from repping an ace to repping 78. Like Bart says, the shove looks like 78 or “nothing”. 78 does not make sense and “nothing” makes a little more sense so villain made a good call. Honestly, I think villain was probably more worried about hero overplaying aces than having the straight. Additionally, I kinda hate when players talk about “blockers”. Yes, villain has LESS holding of 78 when hero has 89 but there are still multiple combos left. I feel holding blockers gets a lot of players into trouble in many situations. With that being said, I don’t think hero has any good reason to think that villain does not have a straight.

[@chris2003ize]

Bless you.

[@Dave062YT]

What Euro ?I'm very confused .Can someone explain ?

[@pot_kivach160]

That's like African polar bear, you know! 🎉 it's easy.

[@stevenanderson7046]

What's a euro?

[@kingdurkalerpa1044]

I don't understand what 125$ river bet is supposed to represent.....

[@Stockhandle123]

A7

[@losyart]

Thin value . And villain recognizes that so he tried to bluff off all superior hands reraising and hero recognizes that so he jams . High level levelling war it was

[@patrickjordan2233]

At the turn, we can creditably rep 7,8 suited... while blocking one of the combos V can have? It's the time to start the bluff.... IMO I think starting the bluff @ the River is too late...? V having a blocker (7) is really unfortunate...being "results oriented" 😂🤣😂🤣 Without H starting the bluff on the turn, V's "blocker" becomes super relevant... Again... IMO

[@MrJamberee]

No, it’s time to fold. Too many players think they can maneuver to win any and every pot. The investment is small. Get out. Better opportunities will come.

[@burkhartlaw1]

Just as I went to type "he should have raised" Bart said it. If you're going to make a move like this a call is not the way to do it.

[@Pokerfarhang]

Blockers 😊😅

[@paulpena5040]

Ya know just because you CAN bluff doesn't mean you should ALWAYS bluff, lol I didn't think his reasoning was totally out to lunch but at the same time was this really a great spot?

[@Dylan-vm4gl]

This is what happens when your line makes no sense

[@guillermoalvarez9400]

Either high leveling war between good players or an ego pissing contest not sure which. Also, I wouldn’t bluff an aggressive tilted player who isn’t in the mood to fold

[@dennisdupuis1567]

Either bet the flop or check fold the river-you’re never good and he’s calling a bluff because you didn’t bet the flop.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Or at least bet the turn. That’s a credible line with 87 I think.

[@ggviews31]

“The euro South American” 😂

[@damianociocca91]

Before watching the reveal, i thought the villain had 77 i guess 76 is almost the same hand in this spot

[@danhass6194]

Can anything be "very unique"? Isn't something either unique or not unique? How is there a "range" of uniqueness, and this situation falls towards the top of the range as "very unique"?

[@JonyBetancourt]

Hero literally never has 78 here when a flush draw comes in, lots of two pairs are possible, and he checks.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Yeah I don’t buy anyone is checking 78 on the turn with only one player left to act. And in the very rare cases they do, they never check-call.

[@realdavidstone]

Heros logic dont make any sense , he says that heros bet is too small to represent 7-8 on the turn but he himself bets a 1/4 pot for thin value on the river and then reshove representing 7-8 ? Its kind of contradicting and hes going against hes logic . So when he thinks that villain doesnt have 7-8 when he bets small on the turn so why is he betting so tiny on the river and then reshove this doesnt make any sense . Oh man these callers ...

[@willpengelly6764]

Hero would never play 78 this way

[@Hammer.J.Helmer]

This hand is a snap fold and pick a better spot.

[@ryanlisterman1864]

Show this video to the people who say “they never Bluff at my level”

[@intrepidus3378]

It's a strong play. I respect it. But I think it's just a little too ambitious. So many things have to come together just perfectly. I can't see this being + EV.

[@Brazz27]

Midway through here, but raising and folding are way better options than flatting on the turn I think.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

What are you repping by check-raising turn? Are you really checking the turn with 87 with only one player left to act?

[@marknoble5495]

2 maniacs. Villain read you like a book. He was tired of losing

[@avengingblowfish9653]

“A 3 wouldn’t raise here…” Me thinking: “I would slow play a 3 on the turn and raise on the river…” 🐟

[@Mauricio-kf8qx]

If I seen this hand at the table I would rack up and go play 1/3

[@דורקרת]

33 is pure raise river. Bad comments from burt

[@jamesbell1613]

This is read appropriate. If dude is calling off with that crap, don't be bluffing him. 😂

[@herts9999]

Guy sounds like Poker Statistician

[@mcpartridgeboy]

bluffing a guy on tilt ? is that smart ?

[@Brazz27]

This hand is full of asumptions that comes from absolutely nothing I feel.

[@spaffron4285]

Dicey dicey bapa

[@דורקרת]

It’s one of the biggest punt ever, hero don’t represent nothing

[@lukixpogo2254]

Incredible call by your opponent. But then again, the hand you are repping is ak clubs imo when you bet the river. He thought he could get you to fold it with a reraise, so it makes no sense you go all in w it. Hero never has a 3 there and 78 makes no sense the way it was played. So really a bluff is the most likely hand for the hero missed clubs would be the most likely hand bluffing. Only value hand the hero really has is a set. But even a set of aces is just calling the reraise on the river. Leaving the most likely hand a bluff. Good attempt to steal a pot. But your line makes no sense. Don’t bluff the unbluffable, and don’t bluff extremely good players. Also come play against me! I need more ppl jamming air for 1000$ on my tables.

[@mariocardoso291]

I am European 🎉

[@thomasstewart6339]

Might take the award for worst played hand yet

[@pot_kivach160]

Indeed. I second it!

[@MrJamberee]

I’m surprised Bart is giving any encouragement to this guy and his attempt to maneuver this pot. Small investment, not the right board, so toss your hand in the muck. For cryin’ out loud, learn how to fold.

[@elliotdematteis7825]

Lost multiple brain cells watching this one. Caller donks off $1000 and is saying that the villain is full of shit... lol Caller even says that if the villain had "a random J10, he can't call".. I really don't understand why a random 98 should be jamming the nut low even when you consider that he's blocking the 8.

[@michaelbryant2652]

How not to play poker 101

[@D3FKONMusik123]

damn these analysis can’t get any more boring

[@joeuser633]

"Where is it at" is just poor grammar Bart. "Where is it?" That's all you need.

[@lincolnjeon2666]

stupid to gamble cahsing, lol let it go, lol sure you can make a top straight but if the flush comes you loose more and the bluff on the end is stupidddd , unless you are going to super bluff and hope. lol why i seen people to do it, but they get caught later all the time.