Configuration is the key since players who checked flop after the preflop raiser had acted are unlikely to hold anything strong. In the oppossite configuration where players have to act first before the PFR the strength of their hands has not been revealed yet since they were simply naturally checking to the PFR. This detail where players are less likely to have holdings that can withstand a check raise makes the turn lead a more appealing line for multiple streets of value.
@KenDavis-uo8kq5 күн бұрын
Yep. I’d likely lead on turn and maybe very large.
@conornocher17903 күн бұрын
Hey Bart, I have the extremely dubious honour of moderating /r/poker. We definitely get a ton of value from this channel (both educational value and comedy value). If you are interested in doing an AMA / promotion / content partnership to promote CLP then message me, it would be fun to work on something.
@YourPalJamieEllis5 күн бұрын
I was shouting "FAKE BLOCKER BET" at my phone as Bart was leading up to his assessment of the river! You're starting to teach me how not to suck, Bart!
@scottyrabbit2 күн бұрын
Yep this is a clear fake blocker bet spot
@balbirchahal18905 күн бұрын
Checking 100% range oop as the pfr.. thats what the hungry horse guy advocates.. and he has the best quality free content by a mile.
@TheBigIntellectual4 күн бұрын
I didn't pay for this content?
@Thaihandmade-wd9mh5 күн бұрын
Totally agree about the smaller river bet. If hero had bet $200 he probably gets called. So by betting $405 he induced a fold, costing himself $200
@Jermo4845 күн бұрын
I don't get why people squeeze hands like 55-88 in these spots ever at 2/5. People don't fold anywhere near enough post or pre and the callers CAN have strong hands because people play badly. You win so, so rarely multiway when you don't hit a set in these games with a middling pair. Also, I like just ripping it in river to look like a massive bluff. He's never bluffing after your polar turn bet, why would he? He'd have to have like super low diamonds thinking he can never even beat a bricked draw. He can have plenty of things like A9, A2, 22, Ax of clubs, K9 of diamonds, 97 suited and even AK at these stakes. These people don't play properly pre at all. You'll see people flat A2o against early position raises from MP. I think we severely underestimated the number of flop slow plays, turn value bet/calls he can have or random strong hands he accidentally ended up with. I'd decide between jamming, checking/betting small to induce or just going for like a half pot value bet based on the opponent - calling station vs spazz vs nit. But also I'm always leading turn, so I never get there like this.
@rotatoe5 күн бұрын
Love the thoughts
@EllieBanks3335 күн бұрын
I'm with you on the 55-88 bit. But I'd have to think he was a special type of villain to be holding something like A9 or 22 here.
@Jermo4845 күн бұрын
@EllieBanks333 that's just the average person at 2/5. They're wildly incompetent preflop. I lost two decent sized pots just yesterday in a $600 tournament (they play very similarly to the average 2/5 player pre) raising EP getting called by next to act once with A5o and once with A2o in spots where I thought like Bart and was like "he really shouldn't have many or any offsuit aces here" and "he just can't have a two besides maybe one of two combos of A2 suited and even that's unlikely".
@EllieBanks3335 күн бұрын
@@Jermo484 V is last to act on flop with aces up and checks? Then on turn MP bets modest and gets an immediate call and the player in position with aces up or a set of 2s just calls --- then calls hero's check-raise? If that is true, then I'm not sure what point there is in even attempting to hand read. Why can't villain have AA...? Or maybe he has 72, that's 2 pair on turn... Maybe he had pocket jacks
@Womenandwine5 күн бұрын
I agree , except I feel like a C/R on turn looks more bluffy than betting out. I would go for the check raise. I could be mistaken, but to me a bet out into a big field seems like strength. But we are at small stakes , so yeah probably doesn’t matter too too much
@friedcircuit37705 күн бұрын
Love the vid my guy
@AnimePokerTX2 күн бұрын
I agree with the small river bet. $100. This allows you to get paid by Ac xc, stealing it when you have a busted draw against A3o sometimes, and allows busted draws to bluff against what might be a better busted draw. 2/3 pot tank on a brick got a 2 minute tank…I think it really leans them to Ac xc. I think call only really comes from Ac 2c, and Ac Kc.
@jacobrichardson14555 күн бұрын
Donk lead the turn of about $40-$50 ... MP calls, then CO probably makes a raise...BUT as was played by this caller... (I'd have to be there live to really get a read) but it seems like CO Villain wasn't sure what to do when he was check-raised by Hero here on turn... like a spot, he wasn't sure if he should just flat or make a hefty 3bet raise. When tinkering around with what to do and then he decides tank-calling... I'm narrowing his range to some sort of weak Ax of club... like a A/3-A6 club, maybe even A/8 or A/10 of club... River bet: $200-$225 on that beautiful brick card and you're probably getting a crying call and max EV...or you could just jam it all and be super polarized and look like you whiffed on a diamond draw or something but IDK what GTO wizard would have you do... also again, depends on your reads with opponent, especially live..So I would go with the former option: B200 or B225 in that range...
@atfti5 күн бұрын
To be honest, I'd rather just lead big on turn with a big sizing. Check raising lets them escape at their own price, and draws will feel obligated to call for the implied odds. If I lead and they call and the river completes, they become uncapped and they're willing to fast play when I have showdown equity. I'm checking the river on a complete hoping they check back and will probably fold if they bet. If I check raise, they could fold easily, preventing me from getting more from them on a brick river
@supersmoo73775 күн бұрын
On the river, you missed two more combos which can call a big bet - K9 of diamonds and K7 of diamonds.. they river two pair.
@Kd4c5 күн бұрын
Kd7d on flop last to act might bet. Kd9d on flop last to act is definitely betting or should be betting.
@supersmoo73775 күн бұрын
@@Kd4c I disagree.. I could see people checking back those hands on the flop considering a lot of people are in the hand, and those combos are drawing to the nuts. Not everyone plays those combos the same way.
@TomRauhe5 күн бұрын
100% agree with Bart. I would have gone 80 here.
@nolanmckellar17105 күн бұрын
I was thinking that leading the turn for about $65, possible to rope multiple opponents in w overcalls and 77 can call a raise. Once the river comes once this line is taken we check looking for bluffs to continue or when villain has two pair or an optimistic AQ they get value owned. I realize now that this is typed out its basically the pinned comment but just my take
@mickaelmalove25534 күн бұрын
I'd agree with the river "stupid bet" idea, but I think I'd favor going towards something like "same bet" of 200. I just don't believe someone's bluffing when they bet 10% pot: I might call it, but I'm never bluff raising it on such a dry run out. Whereas, I see a lot of players "same bet" with weaker holdings, and that might be your best shot to entice a bluff raise.
@ilovebrandnewcarpets2 күн бұрын
Bart does this stuff for a living but I just have to say for me in my experience I can’t imagine 77 ever being a good squeeze candidate in a 25 game. You’d have to squeeze to a massive sizing where you’re only getting called or re-raised by better hands. If it’s an insanely loose game, I think it’s possible to Hand as low as 77 makes a good squeeze candidate, but for 98% of 25 games I’ve played you’d be lighting money on fire. Much better to set mine.
@scottyrabbit2 күн бұрын
I’m squeezing all the time here given that action. Wouldn’t work in 1-3 but absolutely in 2-5
@EllieBanks3335 күн бұрын
I don't know if a super small bet like 60 or 80 gets raised as often as Bart thinks. I'd probably have checked or gone like 150-200. Going 400 was weird. Also not sure I believe the river tank was 2-3 minutes. Peoples time perception gets weird under stress. And what hand requires that tank that villain arrives with?
@JeremyNation234 күн бұрын
Everyone in these vids claims the tank times are soooo long. A 3 min tank is like eternity. I bet he tank folded in 30 seconds or less.
@lucasklingberg95515 күн бұрын
that's the kind of spot where I'll either bet stupid small or stupid big, see if i can get someone to spazz out
@VagabundoOMC4 күн бұрын
I didn't know David Strathairn played poker.
@rockypoon14695 күн бұрын
As charlie carrel will says, bet small to induce bluff on river. Pot $590 and bet $40. If villian have no showdown they can try to win.
@PokerProUS5 күн бұрын
Id check the river to induce becayse his range is mostly draws that missed. Than probably min check raise the river.
@davidcrocker39924 күн бұрын
I was thinking $125 bet to fake blocker that might get raised with busted draw or get a call with a weak pair
@ohExploitss5 күн бұрын
villain could have 9x of diamonds not wanting to be aggressive and just try to make his flush and get to showdown or maybe a hand like 7x of diamonds, combo draw ??
@provjerenijebac8885 күн бұрын
Easy 180 river bet ,no brainer
@superfreeeeeak5 күн бұрын
The games; where a passive player is still decent...One for live poker
@montezuma69625 күн бұрын
There is no chance this a profitable squeeze with 99, 67s, KQs as the caller stated against a profitable player opening from utg. There were 3 calls after the initial raise, so the reraise would be about $140 to $180. Assuming utg has a premium, he's gonna see this coming from a mile away and make it $500 or so.... then you have to decide if you're gonna play for it all or fold.
@Ladyfish._King5 күн бұрын
Why do you just assume he has a premium. Just cause he’s utg?
@LowTide9413 күн бұрын
Fold Pre
@jamesle99215 күн бұрын
I don’t understand why +1 would fold with A/Q pre the raise seems small
@DJDonkeytron5 күн бұрын
Villian could have A3cc-A5cc
@privacyfirst38495 күн бұрын
Villain probably had a flush draw
@trevorgregory30285 күн бұрын
18:58 does villain ever get to this spot w AK?
@keyguy47525 күн бұрын
Doesn't seem likely villain let's flop check through when he has AK, especially with a flush draw on board.
@dannyMCDelight5 күн бұрын
Hero got greedy with $400 River bet. You want a call, so bet $200-$250. And if Villain jams all in for all your stack, fold 😂 He got set of 9's, A's, or K's
@skelthouser27305 күн бұрын
Omg!
@georgewitt68425 күн бұрын
Why not Jam as a fake steal?
@ashypharaoh84075 күн бұрын
Bart can you make your thumbnails anime style? I speak for everyone when I say that would be really cool and kawaii
@corley-ai5 күн бұрын
Overbetting the river IS interesting. It's polarizing: "I either have it or I don't. Call with that Ace."
@jimsmith18565 күн бұрын
ve-ment-lee. Perhaps.
@datsumcrzysht5 күн бұрын
More like…Vhia-ment-lee
@jimsmith18565 күн бұрын
True.
@PokerProUS5 күн бұрын
Vee- Ah-Ment-Lee
@cidtexan5 күн бұрын
I think he had qq
@keyguy47525 күн бұрын
QQ 3 bets preflop.
@kobeandmike5 күн бұрын
i want to watch ur videos but u talk so much fluff its unbearable to listen to u