Cruwear micarta Spyderco PM2 skinny mod how to. Bonus Paramilitary 2 Cruwear hardness testing.

Cruwear micarta Spyderco PM2 skinny mod how to. I also did a 5 test hardness average on mine while I had it apart. This came out great and opens the door for all the mods I talked about previously. I'm excited to get to using this one now. If you are interested in having a skinny mod PM2 done Contact me at the email below or on Instagram.
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[@Mridgwell]

Incredible video, you made it look simple but I'm sure it's not easy , really appreciate that you showed all the steps of mod. Well done G. That was awesome

[@Outpost_76]

Thank you. It isn't really difficult to do. With the amount of material that's removed it will eat up a 1 x 30 Blaze belt and a few 1 inch strios of sand paper. Otherwise it's just time and if you do it all at once it's about an hour of work to complete.

[@Mridgwell]

@@Outpost_76 your an invaluable asset to this community , I truly appreciate the work you do and the information you provide between testing and sharpening on kme I've learned alot from this channel,, thanks Gerald .

[@EDCandLace]

Got me two Crucarta PM2s. Glad this is going to be a normal production Pm2 it's such a fantastic steel.

[@Outpost_76]

I agree, I think BM doing production Cruwear as well as people on the Spyderco forum really made this happen. I'm glad as well, I'll pick another one up in a few months when others have had a chance to get one and they are more readily available.

[@sneakhyperion9297]

Im happy spyderco is running their cruwear/z-wear at a higher hardness. My z-wear shaman has quickly become one of my favorite because it holds an edge for a long time and strops so easily. EDIT: also its a micarta shaman... it feels great in the hand😁

[@Outpost_76]

I'm going to test my KC Para 3 and DLT PM2 Cruwear to get a couple more points to compare. The Z Wear Shaman I tested a while back did well in cutting and the other DLT PM2 I did was above the previous 62 hrc Cruwear in cutting as well. May just be a lucky draw but I will keep doing hardness testing as I get any on loan as well to get a bigger picture of the overall range.

[@benjaminkim7693]

That's bad ass! Looks great, that's soo cool u can rc test now! Can't wait to see other results thanks for the great content brother.

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome and Thank you. I will have a hardness video here soon.

[@joshuabriggs7114]

Good to see some hard Cruwear!

[@Outpost_76]

I'm happy to see them running back where they used to.

[@tatersalad573]

Looks good, nice job

[@Outpost_76]

Thanks 👍

[@bert2530]

I commented after your last vid that it would be harder to skinny this one than a regular PM2, but you did a great job! Stil hesitating if I wil get me one, the cut out on the liner seems to make the micarta flimsy.

[@Outpost_76]

Thank you and while it has some flex I don't think a grip on it will cause the micarta to break. Steel 2 Stone posted a picture on Instagram of a back spacer he made to help fill that gap. It's a great idea we talked about and he did a great job making it happen. If you aren't on Instagram email at the address in the video description and I'll sens ypu a picture of it. The spacer takes away any fear of that area being weak and looks great too.

[@bert2530]

@@Outpost_76 wil do so, send y an email I do mean 😉

[@steeltoez8345]

Well thats a blessing to see those hardness numbers. Hopefully other folks get lucky as well. The skinny mod makes me think over why i have never used a pm2 tip down before. I always guessed it created a worse hot spot, but the skinny mod makes me think i should try it out. The pinky area is not limited to the pocket clip placement with the skinny mod. Im probably thinking far too ahead but snapping off the blade tip on purpose might be an idea to explore as well.

[@profesorEDC]

Love that mod, wish we lived closer G...🤷‍♂️👍

[@Outpost_76]

Maybe we will meet up one day, thank you. It makes the knife much more comfortable for me this way.

[@profesorEDC]

@@Outpost_76 perhaps in a Blade Show my friend, it would be really nice. I bet, they look way more comfy. Great job😁👌

[@Outpost_76]

@@profesorEDC I'll get around to Blade Show one of these years.

[@profesorEDC]

@@Outpost_76 perhaps we'll make it there one day my friend 😁👍

[@JohnDoe-bw3tz]

When working with stuff like micarta always make sure you wear at least a dust mask... those microparticles will seriously harm your lungs otherwise.

[@WESKIX]

Is there a benefit to leaving the blade and taping it? Seems like getting it out of the way by removing it for a half hour could make an easier job of it.

[@Outpost_76]

I tape over a folded piece if cardboard or ut enough tape that should I slip I don't get cut. Many mods I do remove the blade prior.

[@smithbilly1985]

Did you check the thickness behind the edge? Curious if it's thinner like the cruwear pm2 you had before.

[@Outpost_76]

I didn't get to yet, a lot of my stuff is pa ked uo at this point. Just by feel I'd say this one is normal Spyderco grind thickness, nothing special.

[@tazo300]

Hi Outpost 76! I was wondering if you would recommend the spyderco para Cruwear in micarta over the dlt trading para 2 exclusive blk dlc blade with purple g10. Is their one would you recommend over the other? Thx!

[@Outpost_76]

The dlc Cruwear DLT I have is 61.5 rc, the micarta Cruwear and satin Cruwear DLT are both 64 rc. While there is nothing wrong with the dlc they will both perform differently. One will be more wear resistant while the softer one will be much tougher. As far as edge stability between them I'm working on doing a side by side to see the difference. Depending on what you're going to do with it either will work fine

[@tazo300]

@@Outpost_76 Thank you for your response! I ended up with the spydeco dlt exclusive cm 20v. I felt it would be a good all around knife. Was wondering if you did a hardness test on that? Anyway I believe I'm heading down the rabbit hole of this knife hobby. Thx again for responding! -Kirk

[@Outpost_76]

@@tazo300 the original ones from a few years ago were 58 to 60. The newer ones I'm not sure since it seems they are running everything a bit harder now.

[@tazo300]

@@Outpost_76 Thank you! I really enjoy your channel and the content you provide. Very informative. Im keeping my eye out for a para 2 in K390.

[@EngineersPerspective701]

Appreciate you taking us through the process. My hands tend to like a larger knife but the PM2 ergos don’t do me any favors so I’m very tempted to try this out. Super excited to see them pushing my Cruwear like that again. My knifecenter DLC para 3 doesn’t feel any harder than my knifecenter manix 2 as far as I can tell. Sharpens up great still!

[@Outpost_76]

I also like a larger knife but this falls in to the Para 3 skinny. I ended up liking it with a thinned out handle and that improved the ergos in use . I am going to test my dlc Cruwear and find out what it is. My KC smooth Cruwear Manix is 62, the KC smooth cf Cruwear Manix is 61 and my old gray Cruwear Manix is mid 63. While still only a few examples, with the DLT PM2 Cruwear and the KC Para 3 that will give a better idea if this is just a 1 batch thing or did they really start running Cruwear harder again.

[@EngineersPerspective701]

@@Outpost_76 My fingers are crossed that they're moving back to the harder heat treat! Of course there is more to steel than just hardness but the comparison of how they did Hap40 vs Rex45 sticks out so much in my mind. Have a good amount of use with both and it's just no comparison with Rex being the preference by a mile

[@Outpost_76]

@@EngineersPerspective701 those 2 illustrate it almost to an extreme. The Hap 40 is so much softer than the Rex 45 it's noticeable in every way.

[@drunknnirish]

Well if they are running this close to 64 I am going to pick one up for sure.

[@pop4803]

Where's the best place to get cruwear pm2?

[@Outpost_76]

Right now they are tough to find. You will have to look daily at retailers to try and find one who just listed them. In the future being regular production they should be available everywhere.

[@greekveteran2715]

When you get a knife, that is harder than 60, in reality you are not lucky your're just a marketing brainwashed victim, they just robed you, selling you something you don't really need and it's the opposite, of a user friendly tool. That's how I call us all.even though my hardest blade, is 59 to 60hrc. Oh, I'm sure you're going to say, that I'm poor and I'm only able to buy cheap knives, so that's why I say all that, right? Well, the knife I own, that has a 59 to 60 hrc blade, costs 500 $ and as you've might made a better guess now, that's not the only knife I own. So, I wish all knives, came with better blades and not super brittle glass like ones. I'm a user and that's what that tool used to be. Now it's a collectors piece, and they have to dinf out tricks, to get more money out of our wallets...

[@Outpost_76]

It's a popular misconception that harder blades are brittle. It has nothing to do with what you bought for a certain price. Many examples of steels that just don't perform if not run to a proper hardness. I'll use the new hot steel Magnacut, below 62 rc it's a poor performer and it's been shown over and over. I'm not sure what made you pick 60 rc as an arbitrary number for all steel hardness but it is wrong.

[@Chingus696]

Maybe I’m just different than a lot of people. The handle scales are fine as they are to me. It seems just like the para 3 and the military/military2. Even the manix 2…. Perhaps it’s because I always keep my hand forward with my index finger in the choil? Nice video though for those that want to do this mod.

[@cordobadebear]

I’m sure it was cheaper and simpler for them to make the crucarta model the way it is, instead of the lock tab shape as seen on the prototype in knifecenter stream, but how much cheaper? …enough to release with a weird, uncomfortable and weak area of the lock side scale… obviously, they’re ok with that, since they released the shaman model with the blade notch coming across the lock tab area… fans of shaman don’t seem to care about this, or they grind it off… but to me it’s ridiculous, considering the price of the knife…and the fact that it is the same designer and company that make the manix2, a nearly flawless design and best one of spyderco offerings…

[@Outpost_76]

I would say it probably was the least expensive option they had and I was concerned about it at first but now after pushing on that area it seems durable enough. I just worry that if it were dropped wrong that spot could potentially chip or damage easy and cause a problem area in use.

[@Mridgwell]

Just picked up DLT exclusive pm2 in s90v because I couldn't wait for the micarta pm 2 in cruwear to be available. Given it's hardness will this cruwear out preform spyderco previous s90v?

[@Outpost_76]

In wear resistance no the S90V is going to cut more overall. When talking toughness, edge stability and impact resistance Cruwear even at this hardness will be better than S90V in those categories. They are 2 different steels meant for different purposes so outside of the points above your use will determine which is better.

[@Mridgwell]

@@Outpost_76really appreciate your feedback , was worried that spyderco was gonna rush to get the new micarta version out to market but glad to hear they did it well . Thanks G

[@EDCandLace]

Man I want one of those DLT S90v PM2s in the DLC... That was such a good looking color combo.. I missed the sprint back in March and have been sad about it ever since not to mention s90v is one of my fav steels...

[@Mridgwell]

@@EDCandLace LuvThemKnives has sales every month on his channel I got lucky right place right time kinda deal

[@Outpost_76]

@@EDCandLace it was nice to see an S90V PM2. I passed because I have so many S90V blades already.

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

Great vid as always! The hardness testing is always much appreciated! Great to see high 63’s in this run. Rock on

[@Outpost_76]

Thank you

[@poncho151]

I also have both the Cruwear micarta pm2 and the Cruwear smooth dlc para 3. Right off the bat I could tell they were harder than the Cruwear shaman I had before. I have used them pretty extensively and they both have felt phenomenal in performance as well as in multiple sharpenings. So glad to see you confirm what I already thought was likely the case but had no data to reference. Spyderco continues to prove that they are a performance first company and that they are actually listening to the community!

[@Outpost_76]

Some of the Cruwear Shaman tested as low as 59 rc which is way soft for that steel. It seems they are back to running Cruwear harder, all the mid 2021 dated blades I've tested have been over 63 rc.

[@mikelikesknives428]

That looks like it was meant to be. Nice job and thank you for filming it. With a little patience you can make the PM2, Para3, and Manix much more comfortable to use. For some reason this mod seems to work even with larger hands. Thank you again!

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome and thank you. I agree these mods make these knives so much better to use.

[@vaugith1719]

Which knife are you planning to use to unpack while moving? I bet that's been a mental debate!

[@Outpost_76]

I've been using Cruwear PM2 and Para 3, Hogue RSK 20CV and some Kubey Aus-10 I have in for testing long term. I've rotated an S90V Manix in as well. As far as once we get there I'm not sure what I'm going to use yet. Definitely ones u didn't use to pack up with.

[@matusknives]

Awesome, thank you for taking time and making this video. I guess that the next step with the scales could well be full custom 3D shaped ones 🙂 Edit: after ordering the M4 Sage 5 I was pretty much decided to pass this new Cruwear PM2, but I think I need one now 😋

[@Outpost_76]

That's what I plan to do, some heavy dual contouring to see how it feels that way.

[@matusknives]

@@Outpost_76 I am counting on a video once you get there :p

[@Outpost_76]

@@matusknives if I get time that video will come in the next few weeks while I still have my tools out.

[@cavtj1]

Just ordered mine tonight. Just out of curiosity, what kind of mask/respirator is suitable for grinding G-10? I was told the dust ain't good to breath in. Good to hear the Rockwell test was so high. Thanks for posting this sir!

[@Outpost_76]

I use a 3M double can mask, it works well. In a future video I'll show the 2 respirators I have and use.

[@cavtj1]

@@Outpost_76 Okay, thanks for the quick reply sir!

[@masonball5]

Thanks so much for the hardness! I was so curious. Great video all around.

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome and thank you.

[@jmunsamy]

Any update on the lionsteel tre that was sent to Lionsteel?

[@Outpost_76]

Nothing, once that knife left I haven't seen or heard anything since.

[@paulootouro5348]

Hey Man I’m off topic again but it may be a question other learning sharpeners have. I have a benchmade 943 in s30v that if I was still in the corporate world would be my edc. Very sleek and cool with good geometry. I can not get it as sharp as many of my other knives from 14c28 to m4. Is it me or is it the steel? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank in advance

[@Outpost_76]

How many times have you sharpened it? I can't remember if ypu sent me an email but that will let me give you better ideas of what's going on or what you can do.

[@paulootouro5348]

I see the point your getting at. I should dull the blade and re sharpen. What grit should I use and how many passes to dull the knife, since I really don’t carry it much.

[@Outpost_76]

@@paulootouro5348 cut the bevel off a few passes 90 degrees to a 600 grit diamond plate. Then apex with a 300 grit keeping your burr small. Do a 600 grit agai. Keeping the burr as small as possible. See how well it stroos from there. If it won't deburr all the way cut the apex off again and resharpen.

[@ronniebragg6764]

What do you charge for the skinny mod

[@Outpost_76]

35$ return shipping included.

[@jaxonbeilner9258]

Nice video!

[@Outpost_76]

Thank you

[@littlewoody5539]

Nice work !👍

[@Outpost_76]

Thanks

[@calebfranklin9829]

You ruined it.

[@5shotsr611]

Ruined it 😒 🙈

[@Outpost_76]

I know it isn't for everyone.

[@5shotsr611]

@@Outpost_76 😉

[@KillaSkill]

"skinny" mods need to stop. Just because you can mod it doesn't mean you should.

[@Outpost_76]

No, no, no, skinny mod them all, anything that can be done.

[@siduspulverem2001]

Why.. it is not your knife.. wtf