How Did Russia & China Evade CrowdStrike Falcon Disaster That Downed Systems Globally? | IT Outage

[@mr.g2195]

Most comments here do not address the issue but are rather sarcastic. Both Russia and China are doing the right thing in producing and using domestic software. Western software usually has a backdoor, which can be used against other countries.

[@naturalbrnchillr]

Russia and China have no other choice because they are sanctioned rightfully so

[@oceanwave4502]

Passenger and flight info system can be abused to track person-in-interest's international movement, and when they land in certain country, they can be arrested right at the airport. Huawei's CFO is the case in point.

[@AcidBombYT]

Russia and China are using Linux and are currently being hacked 24/7 LOL. They havent done anything but use all verisons of linux like their ASTRA which is total garbage and already wide open.

[@AcidBombYT]

they havent produced anything. Russia and China both use a version of red hat linux. Its garbage and has zero days, so NSA dont care. Use linux and make it easier for them to hack you.

[@chingatumadregoogle1344]

Do they use linux? Or linux vaswd? Or what SO do they use

[@stephenchurchill682]

The west tried to derisk from Chinese eleectronics, but the largest risk seems not from China.

[@我-o3q]

it is from those big companies.

[@gelinrefira]

This is why tech and data sovereignty are so important. If you depend on another country for your most crucial software and hardware, you will always be held hostage by them. This time was an accident because CrowdStrike didn't do their due diligence, next time it will be sanctions.

[@India-go6he]

You are so very right. Thank you.

[@peterchang8719]

​@@India-go6hethis event confirmed Singapore is not the most intelligent country in the world.

[@BushidoBasher]

I think Crowd strike was a Democrat operation to clean and wipe everything regarding the assassination plot on Trump. There's even credible information on Austin Private Wealth, an investment firm run by BR, Vanguard, and Trump's stocks were invested into the day before he was expected to"die" the next day. Bush and Cheney also had a hand in it. They're expecting Trump to die the next day and short on those stocks making $$$ off of his "death". Crowdstrike made it harder to document what went on. The timing is also convenient too.

[@goldeneggduck]

Russia and China are smart! Their are worthy of their success!

[@zeriousvolt1245]

Russia and China can't afford nor are they allowed to use western software.

[@chaosland5325]

Every country should use their own software and protection. Stop using the same software produced by the US or other nations.

[@alanmalan3819]

Linux of all countries unite!

[@ranjitkumargouda8970]

Nobody is stopping them to use their indigenous software, but the fact is there are no alternatives.

[@nicogun7177]

@@ranjitkumargouda8970 the whole point of the video is to imply that there are alternatives. China and Russia are self-reliant in technology and developed their own system, that's why their weren't affected, while other countries decided to rely on US technology. It's not about alternatives, it's about dependency.

[@kingswordsc]

The United States will pressure or bribe government purchasers, and the CIA usually controls local politics through backdoors and surveillance systems, especially in Europe, South Korea, and Japan.

[@qchtohere8636]

​@@ranjitkumargouda8970for those not looking for alternatives, there will never be any... So thinking you're trapped with CrowdStrike/Windows/etc is the first step into become trapped into them.

[@nelsonsim]

Russia and China have learned never to rely on Western technology and software. A great example is the development of the Glonass and BeiDou satellite navigation systems. If the Americans were to deny them access to GPS, as happened to China in 1996, it would have significant military implications. This experience has driven both nations to develop their own independent systems to ensure their technological autonomy and security.

[@NekoLilium2012]

Answer is simple, they didn't use CrowdStrike. They both have their own Cyber Defense industry.

[@randygraham926]

True. Also, Russia no longer uses Windows at all.

[@darkcloud5830]

@@randygraham926 Nobody should use Windows. It is a bloated POS. You need a powerful system just to run a little thing when other OS can use the same system and do a lot more. Too bad most software are written for Windows.

[@kenwood2682]

Is it not ironic! Crowdstrike struck a crowd of greedy oligarchs

[@xinyiquan666]

@@randygraham926 no, russia uses windows, they just do not use crowdstrike

[@billykulim5202]

simple as that, a country super power use own software

[@prastagus3]

if it was Chinese software fault, what would these nations do? Crowd Strike need to pay for damages, let's see if they do or not.

[@naga2015kk]

yes, US banned Kaspersky over minor complaints and non existent issues. Its TIME TO BAN CROWDSTRIKE.

[@pbworld7858]

Can't blame it on Huawei either.

[@HHZX]

我不敢想象如果这是华为的软件造成的问题，会受到美国为代表的西方集团如何恐怖的声讨。

[@superchargerone]

lol true. it would be branded as cyber attack by china or russia etc lol.

[@haipingcheah1662]

100% will blame china n Russia , because everything go wrong just point to this country n the people will accept it

[@TR_Emeritus]

No Windows mean no outage, smart move by Russia. China also has its own OS, no not much impact also.

[@loneranger114]

Russia 🇷🇺 China 🇨🇳 World 🌎 Iconic Leaders. 🥰👍✌️👍👏

[@markmd9]

What own OS Russia and China has?

[@darth.severuss]

@@markmd9 Huawei's OS is at final stage, not sure about Russia

[@hengleekai7788]

Russia use their own Linux version

[@markmd9]

@@hengleekai7788 that means they are using Linux which is not their own

[@GWC-h4t]

As a Chinese, I can tell you that China is not a digital colony.

[@polycarp9897]

No. It is a digital prison with the Great Firewall acting as the prison bars.

[@GWC-h4t]

@@polycarp9897 From your understanding, you are more like being in a prison where you are indoctrinated with information by Western media, without any independent thinking.

[@Kevin-fq3zh]

it’s a penal colony

[@DW-op7ly]

@@polycarp9897 you obviously have never been to China That digital prison Allows them to use facial recognition to pay for a metro ticket or pay for a soda from a vending machine

[@GWC-h4t]

@@polycarp9897 From your understanding, you are more like being in a prison where you are indoctrinated with information by Western media, without any independent thinking.

[@darkmatter5424]

There are only three countries in the world that have their own reliable and sustainable "Google": the US, China and Russia. They are the only three countries that have their native IT sector that is their own, and is independent from others.

[@qjtvaddict]

That’s embarrassing for the world at large

[@willengel2458]

it's quite simple really. China has the foresight to setup its own sovereign internet, and so is Russia. the world's biggest internet companies are between US and China, 6 for US and 4 or 5 for China. zero for EU. China will gradually migrate all its system to Huawei's Hong Meng OS. Hong Meng OS is all about IoTs. undoubtedly, a small loss for Google Android.

[@SW-fy8pq]

EU, Japan and Korea as merely puppets of the US, the US won't allow them to grow strong.

[@karlowalker4143]

Using Microsoft is like asking a thief to look after your valuables. If you wish to give them ever last detail of your life, ( Which ever one of us in the West does ) your families and every other person ever connected to you, then go ahead and us it. Sad but true

[@markmd9]

Windows is the best what world has today

[@FrankiePo89]

Thank you for identifying the THIEF.

[@FrankiePo89]

​@@markmd9 Window is the best because uass contained the development of the rest.

[@r.w.emersonii3501]

​@@markmd9 I have Linux. I haven't used Windows in 25 years, and I wouldn't dream of using it. It's junk.

[@PhiloSurfer]

@@markmd9 Yup, the best window for thieves, burglars and spooks to get into your house.

[@subbuc926]

"Grow out of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world's problems but world's problems are not Europe's problem" SJ Jai shankar Ji

[@loneranger114]

india eam is like a pig with a lipstick - Jayant Bhandari

[@suilfisean]

How is this relevant? 🤔

[@laladigitalsystem]

and yet India is affected.

[@ManiKandan-xb2yk]

A lot of IT professionals in india yet not even able to create our own OS . Shameful to us . Our human resources are utilised to grow western projects

[@MariaMatic-qb9mj]

@@ManiKandan-xb2ykSorry to say this but India's human resources are not even very good enough to utilize western resources , they botch a lot of projects that they have to be redone over and over again.

[@sufianseth]

This is further confirmation as to how eastern tech has come a long way

[@alanmalan3819]

Oh yea , we voted for Trump from our computers and he will be a president

[@sufianseth]

@@alanmalan3819 he's already been a president, but I can picture him being elected

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

Countries that don't use computers also weren't effected.

[@jaredgalvin]

lol, Russia still use Microsoft products. They were not affected obviously because the companies there use Kaspersky instead of CrowdStrike.

[@CashCatz]

@@jaredgalvin Ironically, Kaspersky was just kicked out of the US. Maybe they should have banned CrowedStrike isntead.

[@nsalleh9493]

India has so many IT experts, Why can't India develop its own system?

[@defaultname9766]

" expert" at talking craps, scams...

[@godzillamothra5983]

because your kickback is less than white men's kickback

[@albertlevinsaber6835]

Because Indian employees have accept their fate as White Boss Yes Man. They never escape British colonial legacy.

[@Starlink502]

Indians are employees Not developer 🥹🤣

[@cliff311976]

They all are interested to become economic refugees but don't want to create anything in India😅😅

[@richkingdaverichking331]

Russia and China always thinking ahead. 👌🏾

[@nigelliam153]

Yep that’s how the Chinese laundry bank set up to bypass the EU sanctions on Russia managed to steel all the oligarchs money 😂

[@ksneoh3572]

"CrowdStrike" -- the name itself reveals the diabolical connotations. So, when CrowdStrike strikes the crowds, the latter go blue in the face (thanks to Microsoft).

[@jackg308]

Like they said, the ban of using western tech only accelerate china and russia tech development

[@kentmusgrove5038]

No political or corporate leader would have CrowdStrike on their computer. This software provides backdoor access to any computer using it.

[@Frostwolf_103]

Global company domination is on their agenda, this shows weakness.

[@StraussBR]

I remember when windows 10 was released Kaspersky identified a windows feature to log keystrokes

[@zhugecunfu-pr8sd]

Therefore, Kaspersky must leave the United States.

[@CashCatz]

@@zhugecunfu-pr8sd Bingo 100%

[@yehuo2825]

is this a wake up call for every country?!

[@magellanmax]

It is!

[@andrewfuzh]

Unfortunately, most countries aren’t big enough to develop their own.

[@r.w.emersonii3501]

​@@andrewfuzh They don't have to. All they have to do is install one of the many free Linux distributions.

[@yehuo2825]

@@andrewfuzh it is a matter of time... as i backpack to many places, i saw a few countries are sharing their skills and knowledge to many countries, so they can become more independent...

[@Dee-Ell]

@@andrewfuzh Big enough in the sense of resisting imperialism.

[@thiritung5331]

Do you want performance, productivity, peace of mind? Throw Microsoft away.

[@r.w.emersonii3501]

We Sheep can do without "performance, productivity, peace of mind". All we really want is a pat on the head from BG, the Chief Wolf. We need the Wolf to "Protect" us from real software and real web-sites that tell the truth about the Wolves.

[@РусланЗаурбеков-з6е]

I'm owner of Windows 7. The first thing I did, when Microsoft left Russia: disabled ALL automatic system updates. Quite happy since then.

[@donkeykong516]

It’s called an outage, but it’s to test any weaknesses of Russian & Chinese systems

[@johnwhoo6194]

Push out an update without prior testing? Highly suspicious, not for a very very well regarded software company, a cyber security software company! Very fishy!

[@r.w.emersonii3501]

Reminds me of Pfizer, for some reason.

[@marcelo55869]

That's enshitification in a nutshell. They get the monopoly. Then get lazy. Then start milking their products dry. Mass layoffs, overworked professionals etc. The hidden face of capitalism is now showing.

[@Dee-Ell]

It's a test to verify the vassal states are still vassals.

[@ensh888888]

Proves US software technology is now behind both China & Russia😂😂😂

[@justme6275]

i bet they were ltfao

[@SOVIET-KGB-CCCP]

😂 Microsoft and there dependent slaves. Да здравствует Россия 🇷🇺 Ура!

[@kygocrysmaine]

Russia and china are prepared because they knew they will start a w~r in the future😂

[@willengel2458]

it's quite simple really. China has the foresight to setup its own sovereign internet, and so is Russia. the world's biggest internet companies are between US and China, 6 for US and 4 or 5 for China. zero for EU.

[@willengel2458]

China will gradually migrate all its system to Huawei's Hong Meng OS. Hong Meng OS is all about IoTs. undoubtedly, a small loss for Google Android.

[@kygocrysmaine]

@SyJ-x2c you're delusional, p^lestine has no sov^reignty, its name was just invented by foreigners. It's just a former created province of otto^man and roman emp. The original locals there are canaanites(Israelites), philistines and phoenicians

[@ipocritii9215]

👋👋🇷🇴

[@MrRockyyao]

A company, by mistake or deliberately, can shut down the computer systems globally is not right. Every country should be self sufficient at least for the critical infrastructure

[@Frostwolf_103]

We are being devolving as human beings

[@RaffaelPallus]

And its prroven that US army can use this to make your country fall

[@SRRMCS]

crowdstrike did not test the update. irresponsible company

[@BelovedAxle]

end stage capitalism, please understand

[@Wandering_Bear]

Not really irresponsible at all it there are no consequences. A business exists only for it's shareholders and ongoing profits. If it's far less expensive to introduce buggy software, then charge billions in yearly upgrade charges then they are doing their job... which is NOT to care about people or systems that go down.

[@darkcloud5830]

@@Wandering_Bear No money gain if customers are not buying support. They release crappy products so customers will buy their support service. When something goes wrong, you call their sorry azz up and they will fix it. If you don't buy their crappy support, go luck when sh!t hit the fan like what is happening now.

[@VOLightPortal]

Unfortunately when companies go woke there is subsequently a trend that it becomes less competent and eventually less effective in its operations and efficiency over time. The risk comes with hiring based on qualities that have little to do with the skills and qualifications and expertise required to run the business properly. This has happened for example in Venezuela when they nationalized their oil companies, replacing most of its engineers and trained staff that had been there for decades, with politicians who had zero experience running an oil company.

[@marcelo55869]

Yeah what about the quarter earnings...the proffits? We need to layoff half the workforce and get the other half 4 x more work!! Expand the proffitd forever!!!

[@randygraham926]

Russia is using Astra Linux, their version of the open source Linux OS. Ironically, the sanctions protecting them from both Windows and CrowdStrike. 😂

[@CashCatz]

We're really not, though. Most government services still use Windows (unfortunately).

[@НиколайСмирнов-с7х]

This is a Windows of a completely different build. In any case, the official has nothing on this PC except his contacts, certainly not technical documentation or any secret documents. Anyone who has more than a certain threshold of access to the internal affairs of the state can transmit data exclusively using domestic developments... That is, this is not even Astra, these are builds of Kaspersky or other trusted companies or state security services... Nothing is transmitted in WhatsApp, except perhaps an offer to go to an expensive restaurant for several hundred thousand rubles...

[@cobracommander.1958]

Russia and china iran india were not afected by the IT outaGE BUT THE BBC CLAIMS ITS A GLOBAL ISSUE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 GLOBAL MEANING AMERICA AND ITS ALLIES 😂😂😂😂😂

[@subbuc926]

Europe's/NATos Problems are global.others Problems are not at all problems - SJ Jai Shankar 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RobertojavierSilvaharth-ub3pz]

Just like when they say world news, they mean their world which is UK, US and the EU!!

[@musakam]

India was affected because the country is more dependent on Western technology, unlike China.

[@subbuc926]

@@RobertojavierSilvaharth-ub3pz Hypocrisy world full of urban bandits and pirates with suits.

[@loridenise5639]

HSBC was affected which does a huge amount of business in China so the BBC is probably correct.

[@Wandering_Bear]

Well done BRICS nations! MS software does have backdoor access that is often used in US covert data collection and control.

[@sdinim8695]

My flight from Boston MA to Atlanta GA was cancelled thanks to bill gates.😂

[@alwaysright6358]

Nah... He's long outsourced IT jobs to India. It's most certainly a half-assed Indian developer making updates to ms software these says.

[@armanboncales2928]

there's nothing wrong on windows but in cybersecurity that use by airport

[@Frostwolf_103]

Ah no, Microsoft OS domination is about to meet its end, this will come at demand of independent OS

[@desmondho9567]

That's the reason why CN has its own firewall.

[@darkcloud5830]

No, they have their own firewall to protect the people from the evil US and their influence.

[@loneranger114]

Russia 🇷🇺 China 🇨🇳 Iconic World 🌎 Leaders. 🥰🥰✌️👍👍

[@lordlee6473]

I think the real reason is neither country hires Indian IT workers, unlike the US, thus, preserving the QoS of their software

[@sundayprogrammer5024]

LoL. I hope it was meant as a joke.

[@qjtvaddict]

That’s BS Indians are in Russia and China too. The problem is outsourcing and housing costs

[@Xiquinhodasilva99]

Let us all use Adobe, Windows, MacOS, IOS, Android and have no alternatives... thats a bad idea

[@我-o3q]

importance of competition.

[@Xiquinhodasilva99]

@user-yd5zr4qf7r Microsoft took down Nokia, Symbian and Meego nobody did anything. Adobe, Apple etc buying competitors and nobody does anything.

[@Zerpentsa6598]

Using Microsoft products is plain dumb. China's smarter than that.

[@syidyahmed737]

Misleading title. The correct title will be "How Western sanctions against RU and CN save both countries from the latest IT outage ..."

[@jonasbaine3538]

Simple. No automatic updates or not even using windows in first place.

[@woofkaf7724]

​@gggg-xv7nb 1)"pirate" light versions of windows. 2) each company have system administrator who can adjust system or server. Especially after updates which breaks network printer availability.

[@seriouslyfunny4859]

Russian airports received and dispatched flights, checked in passengers, and generally performed all their functions. The same applies to rail transport and the work of the banking sector. Not to mention, of course, fast food restaurants, grocery delivery and other orders. In short, they've had everything. And, of course, they did not notice this quiet victory themselves simply because they used to the almost perfect functioning of everything. Any services, businesses and services, no matter what happens.

[@axle.student]

On the plus side, both China and Russia now know exactly what security infrastructure major western entities are using lol

[@axle.student]

@johnregan6323 Well, we could infer their intelligence would have some ideas, but as of now there is no doubt lol

[@whitemerlin5737]

Depend on american system is like giving key to a thief

[@justme6275]

the world better pay attention to this... using amurika tech can be fatal!

[@eugenechin2863]

Just like flying on their planes..lol. I now make sure i am on an Airbus when i fly just to be on the safe side.

[@vexusdesu6272]

I feel sorry for Japan but then again i don't feel sorry for them

[@banwa_non]

Japan needs to grow a spine.

[@bentony7548]

this IT outage exactly indicated how easy a country could be cyber- attacked to Chaos by enemy software.

[@nelayanpejuang4194]

I Russia they don't use microsoft, they use Linux

[@xiaozhong5198]

the whole world is in a digital prison except China and Russia😂😂

[@wisdomtan490]

Well, almost the whole world is subjected to USA mercy. It is merely a warming that you can be crippled anytime.

[@randygraham926]

China is using OpenKylin, another Linux based OS, on many of their computers. This was developed in China and that's why they had no problems with their airlines, etc. 😜 Android, another open source OS mainly for phones, is also common in China. Although they still use some Windows OS in China -- that will probably be reduced to ZERO in the next couple of years as the U.S. increases whack-a-mole sanctions.😇

[@黄微-j2j]

No, in China windows is still the mainstream operating system, the reason why China is not too affected in this incident, there are two main reasons: 1. Most Chinese companies do not use security software from foreign companies, especially in the government sector. 2. CrowdStrike took the initiative to ban the sale of CrowdStrike to mainland China.

[@xinyiquan666]

china has way more than just kylin, but deepin, openanolix, openeuluar,, harmonyOP, ,,,,,,,

[@xinyiquan666]

@@黄微-j2j its because microsoft not barred in china yet, not because china depend on them, it is because US did not ban selling it to china , though it did to russia

[@iqbang9236]

The test was well taken and passed with a high score for both countries. Confidence is running high for both. One of the major worries for China has been put aside.

[@AaronLinus-qi1qb]

Russia-Astra Linux China-Kylin Linux

[@randygraham926]

Exactly.

[@AaronLinus-qi1qb]

@@randygraham926 not to say I'm biased to Linux but I'm really getting bored with windows, because it just too much bloated ware which is privacy concerned to me. I'm a Linux gamer myself ever since proton compatible layer has been created back then, long b4 steam deck light the way to Linux as a gaming os.

[@xinyiquan666]

china has way more than just kylin, but deepin, openanolix, openeuluar,, harmonyOP, ,,,,,

[@DorJinTan]

True sovereign nations.

[@firewall68]

Viva Rusia Viva!

[@JoseTorres-xc6vb]

For all nations, this cataclysmic tech glitch teaches a great lesson in vulnerability and forces them in creating their new communication software in order to keep individual reliability in their financial, defense, intelligence and almost total functionality as a country.

[@dtsh4451]

Putin:”if you need backup, I have a copy for you 🤣”

[@BWong1234]

The way to go China and Russia. Be self reliance and self sufficiency. The global majority are very eager for your help.

[@fernandomianooliva6997]

Urraaaaaaa Rusia y china las .mejores en tecnologia de orimera clase con la caida de Microsoft, o oaso nada en china ni Rusia❤❤😂🇨🇳🇷🇺

[@HgHg-yp6ft]

Getting out of the digital shackes of the West is just as important as getting out of their financial ones. BRICS and especially China and Russia are just about there already, not quite but almost done with that endeavor.

[@godfreytan1001]

CrowdStrike struck what it was meant to protect.😂

[@billykulim5202]

its company name already scare china and russia to use their software, they could got strike anytime

[@WhiteGandalfs]

This current meltdown is only a first outlook to what has to come - while taking the bullshit in the IT sector to ever more im(or de-)pressing heights. I press thumbs that the rest of the world take this event as paragon to how avoid things like that.

[@stellatan9485]

Because they have better tech😂 that's why lots of ppls are switching to huawei

[@TienLam-t6b]

Cannot image that the USA'S government's leadership officials would switch to digital payments as in China with these types of glitches..The entire country's will be paralyzed..Nada Dinero for anything😂😅..

[@deatherutts]

Funny I have a feeling that US tried screwing with China and Russia instead screwed themselve's and allies 😅😅😅😅 how freakin ironic

[@justme6275]

kudo to the chinese and the russian for their foresight.... self reliance!

[@eugenechin2863]

@justme6275 Yeah good on them 2 but they were forced to do so. If USA wasnt so silly with their sanctions, both countries would probably also have suffered. So another USA sanction backfiring and embarrassing them again.

[@jgarbo3541]

Both Russia and China moved a lot of critical infrastructure to Linux, which is not affected by Crowdstrike or other "upgrades" or Windows malware. Probably, too, Sysadmins are more diligent about security. In Thailand, we were not affected.

[@elroyh12344]

Het is godverdomme duidelijk waarom!!!! automatische updates ik word gek van de wereld zo stom te zijn!! kom op !!

[@vittordecastro3815]

What's the fucking difference between running crowdstrike and Kaspersky ? The problems relies on you not having control over your host software updates and Kaspersky does the same thing. The only solution is running away from Microsoft

[@ZOFIELHERRERA-wy3yo]

Do you see how fragile the United States really is. American society is deceiving itself.

[@alfixall]

Windows is garbage. I use Linux.

[@jinkazama7491]

It’s simple, they didn’t place their tech dependency on a third country. That’s the importance of tech sovereignty. By placing your high security softwares in the hands of others, you’ll always be a hostage.

[@kimannepark4709]

Crowdstrike needs to compensate tens of trillions of dollars in business and financial losses by banks, stock markets, airlines, financial institutions, government agencies, the shutdown of hospitals and affecting their patients in critical care, and tens of millions of inconvenienced passengers all over the world. Governments all over the world including the EU, should impose hundreds of billions of dollars in fines on Crowdstrike!

[@klam77]

KASPERSKY IS BETTER COMPANY than Seton Hall accounting undergrad degree founded firm Crowdstrike

[@DeadInside619]

I just learned from this video that, Kaspersky, is a Russian company! So, I've been supporting Russia without knowing it! NICE!

[@juliap.5375]

Isn’t it clear just from name? 😂 Everyone with suffix -sky is Slavic origin (strictly it is Polish family names, but a lot of owners living everywhere, mainly Russia, so in half cases it is Russians). Another famous example - Sikorsky, mainly known as inventor of helicopters. Kaspersky developing own antivirus from late 1980s. It is one of the oldest system.

[@housetboy8605]

What this show is Uncle Sam can force/make/ask Microsoft to release hidden updates or turn off services that would impact foreign services.

[@finhas8865]

Pretty sure because they don't use CrowdStrike, an american digital security company.

[@KonstantinVinnichenko]

Actually, when I read the news about this global incident, I had 2 questions: 1. How did Microsoft's garbage get involved in those industries where everything fell down? 2. How was it allowed to use cloud solutions and even Microsoft solutions in critical applications and services? Therefore, the answer is why neither Russia nor China was affected by this - it is not customary for us to use consumer operating systems in critical areas.

[@Kezz8888]

Google doesn’t use windows, why would Russia

[@johnak5857]

The Linux software is stable and secure and you control it

[@praveenspike]

Its not a Microsoft problem or the people who have windows. It's for the people who havs crowdstrike security has the problem. Even I have win10 no problem for me, just that I don't use crowdstrike

[@randygraham926]

Yes, but I hate Windows so avoid it. But you're correct it was CrowdStrike that STRUCK.

[@qh9070]

Exactly I have a windows laptop but I do not have crowdstrike and no issues

[@eugenechin2863]

@praveenspike The issue diod not affect home users much, just the big corporations who use it.

[@celiad6012]

For days the crash was described in the West as worldwide. It occurred to me at the time that at least half the world, Russia and China would not be affected.

[@jlin7724]

Ridiculous, people talk as if they don’t use Windows. I don’t know about Russia but Chinese companies still highly use Windows.

[@husseinshuaibu3560]

Learning from Rus and Sine is very necessary 🤔

[@Paul-li9hq]

All and every argument aside - it just goes to show how vulnerable we are to a *SERIOUS* digital attack...

[@aberba]

Crowdstrike strucks the crowd with downtime.

[@Zergcerebrates]

US software is a national security risk

[@rabmos8320]

Because Russia and China de-couple from the West

[@randomterror7]

It’s a double edged sword. It also meant that China and Russia are not as integrated with the rest of the world. That’s fine if you are a big country with a huge domestic market to be self sufficient. This approach may not work for countries with a small population / small market.

[@AniMageNeBy]

The question being: did it affect Crysis? I mean, North-Korea?

[@HopeChan007]

Apparently, OS-security will be another national security threat. If, I said IF, a country who highly relies on windows os, when troubles come, the US government can order their it company to “lock down” the whole country. Or unnecessary for whole country, just the military or police or medical system, by the excuse of “cyber virus” or something. Some countries might have their own os like windows or MacOs, like us and Russia, although normal people use windows or Mac, but like airports, hospitals, fire stations, police departments and other major government departments, we use our own os. I might not very convenient for using, but it’s absolutely ENOUGH and BETTER BETTER.

[@randygraham926]

Are you from China? China is mainly using neoKylin or openKylin domestically on computers? Is that correct? Russia is using Astra Linux now. China should shift away from Windows as soon as possible for the reasons you mentioned.

[@HopeChan007]

@@randygraham926 actually, as what I know, you are right, our government departments and public officials are using Linux systems. But we the normal citizens are still using windows home edition or Mac. It’s unnecessary to ban windows or Mac on citizens and daily using, but we need to prepare for the emergency.

[@SmartSpear]

Regarding Russia, Crowdstrike does not sell its solutions in Russia, does not support Russian users due to the sanctions imposed by the US. Therefore, it is not surprising that there were no problems in Russia because of them.

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

That's a reason the world cannot relay on a western tech and competition is a must.

[@wsurfer2147]

Crowdstrike, it could have been easily CIAstrike.

[@konstantingeyst4568]

Our companies in Russia also increasingly invest in hosting services on premise in closed perimeters so it cannot be hacked, spied by anyone, full control of data, and they have no global outages

[@polycarp9897]

Can people sue CrowdStrike for the travel disruptions? Can being stuck in an airport be construed as false imprisonment?

[@jsmith6599]

First thing Russians do after setting up Windows is to disable an automated update function (which is damn hard, since Microsoft for some reasons made this near impossible even for above average user with LOTS of redundancy), because it have a habit of installing updates in most inconvenient time when you absolutely need your computer. Russians only install updates manually when some application refuses to work without it. If it works - don't touch it.

[@tiaoyi-bx5yi]

Because the Chinese government and state-owned enterprises already replaced American products with domestic cpus and operating systems 10 years ago. China has its own set of hardware and software standards that will operate without the US.

[@Brisamars-q1c]

This shows the importance of decoupling 😂