@@ku610916 There is not one variety shows these days can compare to this one with substances, no stupid jokes, no private issues, only the perfectional discussion. Not really familiar with Ms. Chen's work but appreciated her integrity and honesty when listen to Mr. Wang's Radio Show a few weeks ago. Now came back to watch this OLD interview 2014 was the same quality from Chen then, the same passion, wants to do anything to keep the taiwan local opera is the same 2022. Ms. Yang nurtured her very good to be a very decent human being.