Serious Beginner? Here's what YOU need for DSO Astrophoto #masterclass

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Cuiv, The Lazy Geek

3 жыл бұрын

Astrophotography is an amazing, rewarding, but sometimes frustrating hobby. And very expensive. Frustration and cost can be held down by starting out with the RIGHT setup. Check out the video to find out.
Another source of info (that also refers my video :) ): astroimagery.com/equipment/what-do-you-need-for-astrophotography/
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Some of the equipment in this video:
ZWO ASI533MC Pro: bit.ly/3fKPmsv
ZWO EAF: bit.ly/2OCp13U
Optolong L-eXtreme: bit.ly/3b9qlpo
AZEQ5 Mount: bit.ly/3ib4Jvq
Radian Raptor: bit.ly/3gi6BUp
Sharpstar 61EDPH II (not affliate!): www.365astronomy.com/sharpstar-61edph-ed-triplet-apochromatic-refractor-telescope.html
Some of the mounts I mentioned:
CEM26: bit.ly/3gncHms
GEM28: bit.ly/385NKaS
HEQ5: bit.ly/3zafOpd
00:00 The Intro
01:10 The Mount
03:54 The Telescope
10:00 The Camera
14:19 The Filter
16:25 The Focuser
18:10 The Heatband
19:15 The Cables
20:20 The Control Center
24:46 The Autoguider
29:09 The Cover
30:14 The Laziness
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@PilotPhteven
@PilotPhteven 3 жыл бұрын
8:25 I have the Redcat myself, you said you'd come back to it in the video about the focussing, but perhaps forgot it. so I'll give my experiences with it :) I've added a ZWO EAF to mine. I used the "ProAstroGear Black cat" kit for it, about 60 dollars. Obviously, this is a little more than some other mounting options which usually is just a metal plate. And, it is sensitive to backlash, but it does work. There are also options available for 3D printing mounts and bits, usually specific for the Redcat + ZWO EAF. Some other bits. Yes, the ASIAIR focussing could be a lot better. I do find it misses the mark sometimes. Playing around with exposure times, or the binning for focussing does really help though! Also ASIAIR has become a lot better these days. Multi-star guiding and a full on plan mode where you can plan for multiple targets in a night. So, I'm pretty happy with that! (mainly because I'm lacking a windows PC, and astrophotography doesn't always mix well with MacOS) And the cover, while perhaps not a permanent solution, a cover for a BBQ works great too to cover the scope for a fraction of the price of official telescope covers. Not sure how well they'd do for 365 days in a row, which is obviously important for rigs that are outside permanently. But, the purpose is the same and I would say it is more than enough for a semi permanent setup. I'm not lazy enough to have it outside 365 days of the year, but lazy enough to leave the rigs outside if I'm expecting a few nights in a row of imaging!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for catching that Steve! Yeah I forgot to talk about it again! Let me pin your comment
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 3 жыл бұрын
The main difference with covers is whether or not they "breathe". I live in Maryland, where it's super humid for half of the year. Woodworking is another hobby, and my stuff rusts pretty much instantly if I don't protect it. One of the things I use are tool covers (they are like tarps) designed for this purpose. They aren't nice bags like the scope covers, but they likely do the same type of thing. Others, like BBQ covers, are going to build up moisture inside. The main thing that will cause moisture build up is a temperature difference caused by lack of airflow. Where I live, any desiccant becomes saturated within a week or so, and has to be changed out and renewed.
@tomdaigon8707
@tomdaigon8707 3 жыл бұрын
If you keep cranking out videos at your current rate, you are going to have to change the name of your channel to....Cuiv, The Busy Geek! :D
@marvinwhisman3333
@marvinwhisman3333 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad he is back and going full speed. He is absolutely my favorite source of information on astrophotography.
@TheAntibozo
@TheAntibozo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Cuiv-even though you're getting some revenue now, remember to pace yourself. ♥
@Arcteek
@Arcteek Жыл бұрын
By far the best astronomy yt channel, sans être chauvin! With a strong focus on hardware and gear, which is important for a beginner like myself.
@fredmercury1314
@fredmercury1314 2 жыл бұрын
30:36 I see what you're saying but... I'm not leaving $$$$$ sitting outside in my garden, when I can just carry it out of the house and spend 15 mins doing an alignment. Also, where I live, it seems to rain 85% of the year so it would sit there unused anyway :/
@woody5109
@woody5109 2 жыл бұрын
Your a natural teacher, thank you for these informative videos, us new people appreciate it. 🙏
@AstroProductReviews
@AstroProductReviews 9 ай бұрын
Yes! Excellent video - Wonderful advice… Now, I would love to see a version of this video for those on a lower budget (like me!) 😂 I’ve been wondering about that Explore Scientific GoTo Mount (only $299 now) - I won’t mention the dealer who currently has them in stock (to be fair). I wonder if you would even waste your time testing and reviewing it? I presume at that price point, it’s probably seriously lacking? Anyway, I love this video!! Thank you so much for making it!!
@fakahany
@fakahany 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video Cuiv .... well done and u just summarized a very complex topic....
@imspartacvs
@imspartacvs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing... I've been doing visual astronomy for a very long time in the Eastern part of New York (NYC) and came across your Chanel. My largest scope is an Orion 10" EQ on an Atlas (non-goto) I also have several refactors that I set up on an 'older' EQ5 iOptron setup... but I am sooo intrigued by what you are showing. My problem over the years is location and light pollution. I suppose being in Tokyo I REALLY shouldn't complain but you are showing a great solution. Sitting in my living room and viewing the universe! Thanks for you efforts. Yours In Astronomy, Spartacvs
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Spartacvs! You should definitely give it a try if you have that equipment - and you could start with just a DSLR on one of your refractors :)
@oldrocker1970
@oldrocker1970 Жыл бұрын
Hey Cuiv. Love all of your stuff. You probably saved me years of time in improving my astrophotography just watching a few of your videos. One thing I would like to point out when it comes to beginners - which I am. A lot of us start out imaging planets before we move to DSOs. As you know its a totally different world, techniques are completely different, and one can argue in many ways it is simpler and much easier. Because of this, a lot of people start with imaging the moon and planets. And they buy BIG reflectors like 8+ inch SCTs which are great for that task. But then (like myself) they quickly get bored of planetary, and discover that if they buy another camera, a cheap guide scope and a reducer they can catch a few DCOs - assuming they have an EQ mount already. But using that equipment can present large challenges to the beginner in deep sky. It would be interesting to see a video on transitioning from planetary to deep sky and the minimum equipment needed, what to expect, the challenges, etc.
@francescot3684
@francescot3684 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very glad Cuiv to see you back! We missed you! This is the best video for beginner astrophotographers I’ve ever seen and wish I could have watched it 5 years ago. I totally angry with you to start seriously with this bony with a set up that you showed in this video, the costs will be less in the and and the result much greater. There’ is always
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment was cut but I get the gist of it. Thank you!
@JJherne
@JJherne 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. As an alternative I'll mention the AZ-GTi mount with eq wedge (which I know you have/had) coupled with the ASI Air Pro. The ASI Air Pro really makes it come alive and makes PA / goto / guiding a breeze. It's also a lot cheaper if budget is an issue. I'm happily taking 5 min+ subs with that, just watch the overall weight !
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Very good suggestion too!
@davidkennedy3050
@davidkennedy3050 3 жыл бұрын
The ASIAIR is NOT cheaper. A more capable 64 bit NUC can be acquired for under $200.
@bobsastrophotography7812
@bobsastrophotography7812 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Cuiv. How I wish I could keep my stuff outside coz I’m a little lazy too, but in actuality it only takes me 20 minutes to setup coz all my scopes have their own filter wheel, EAF, camera etc so all I do is take the Mount out & put the scope that I want to use on plug everything in & I’m ready to go. Clear Skies My Brother In Astrophotography & again thanks for sharing your wisdom in Astrophotography. Be blessed…
@christiangales1119
@christiangales1119 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your vidéo, i began astro two years ago and i learned everithing from KZbin But it s difficult for the moment to have correct résultat in photos I must spend much more time to experiment m'y material Thank you for your precious hello Christian 🇫🇷 FRANCE
@mrbutchee1
@mrbutchee1 11 ай бұрын
This was super helpful. Thank you for the full explanation of every part. Ive been trying to get a kit together so I can do astrophotography with my kids. I wanted a photo rig. And then have another for visual, maybe a dobsonian.
@markmayer9290
@markmayer9290 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back in action. As a beginner without the possibility of leaving my scope setup on a balcony, I found that the inertia involved in setting up and taking down every session impacted how frequently I went out. I highly recommend that beginners with a garage or storage shed consider getting a JMI Wheeley Bar or Scope Buggy. Everything can be left assembled as you suggest, but the setup is easily moved.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree - finding the motivation to get the setup out is sometimes really hard.
@salomon1639
@salomon1639 3 жыл бұрын
As usual great advice for beginners. Glad to see you back making frequent videos.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
As always thanks for the support Salomon!
@DavidSomersHarris
@DavidSomersHarris 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the tip at the end about using a cover. I’ve been thinking about this for a while now.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Just be aware that it is not nice to the equipment... but equipment is meant to be used :)
@KerryJapan1
@KerryJapan1 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Greetings from Chiba Japan, just east of you. Very soon I will be jumping into the world of Astrophotography with both feet. This video especially feels custom made for me! Your images have been an inspiration for me as I never thought I could make any decent captures in such a light polluted location. I wish I could support you buy using your OPT link to buy from but being in Japan really won’t be as economical I guess. If you ever consider selling off some of your gear just know you have a potential buyer just down the road from you. 😉.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Awesome Kerry! Good luck getting started, don't forget to test as much as possible during the day, or during full moon nights!! Chiba looks like a great area as well :)
@VasilisVify
@VasilisVify 3 жыл бұрын
Priceless advice ! Your passion for this hobby is inspiring !
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@michaelhettrick8479
@michaelhettrick8479 3 жыл бұрын
Cuiv, this is the best introduction to AP equipment I have seen - comprehensive yet concise and lucid ! Your “day job” MUST be that of a teacher, correct ??
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael! No I'm not a teacher, but I feel very flattered you would think so - I indeed LOVE teaching (as should be apparent on my videos :) )
@shirinpillai7871
@shirinpillai7871 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's time to start saving my money for the equipment!
@OlliesSpace
@OlliesSpace 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you covered all the main points really well Cuiv. I think like you I have to make things as easy as possible to make sure I'm motivated.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ollie!
@michaellandrum1523
@michaellandrum1523 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this video in 2013. Please send it back in time. 😆
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
I will do my best along with a message of "buy as many Bitcoins as you can, and do not sell until it's at 50,000USD"
@philippefossier7178
@philippefossier7178 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent depth of information and details that are so useful in this specific field.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! Thank you so much for providing this information for us. Subbed.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, glad it helped!
@southbronxny5727
@southbronxny5727 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the refresh. Keep them coming. Feel better.
@williamdrapeaud6288
@williamdrapeaud6288 3 жыл бұрын
New french follower ;-) but glad to se you back !!! Learn a lot of informations about NINA and more with you
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Genial, et bienvenu!
@stuartriley
@stuartriley 2 жыл бұрын
Culv, I did not see where you purchased the filter drawer for the Optolong L-eXtreme filter, nor what your recommended back-focus distance was when you added the filter. Can you please elaborate? Thank you for the great video.
@TheAntibozo
@TheAntibozo 3 жыл бұрын
What a great round-up. Thanks for sharing a bit of your knowledge!
@adam.morris12
@adam.morris12 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. More importantly in this and the previous few videos every frame has been dripping (urgh!) with your enthusiasm and passion for this great pastime of ours. As others have mentioned the equipment is expensive, but I think you alluded to that in your previous short, which should be subtitled “If you value your relationship don’t let your significant other find out how much this stuff costs”. Some of the expense can be mitigated somewhat by going second hand. Nearly all of my gear is ‘previously loved’ with the exception of some extension tubes, two filters and an EQ6R which I bought recently, all shiny and new. Having said that the second hand stuff is only less expensive, it’s not necessarily cheap!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right - My particular setup here is one of those rare exceptions for me where everything was bought new, but at significant discounts!
@adam.morris12
@adam.morris12 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves a discount, well done! It’s really good to see that you’re getting your astro-mojo back!
@pierrechticumulus6241
@pierrechticumulus6241 3 жыл бұрын
Excellents conseils, MERCI à toi ! J'ai acquis une ASI533MC suite à tes conseils précédents et j'en suis vraiment très content. Je suis passé à Pixinsight également et j'ai vraiment progressé ces derniers mois grâce notamment à tes vidéos. Merci encore, bon ciel à toi et bonjour de France ;)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Bon à savoir, well done & clear skies!
@Prometey77777
@Prometey77777 3 жыл бұрын
I use Lattepanda alpha to control my set up it is quite powerful, can be powered via it is dedicated USB type C power adapter, or you can power it with 12v power supply but you need to get proper connector.
@markszkil
@markszkil 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back!
@TiagoRamos79
@TiagoRamos79 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my WO Zstar 61 setup with Canon 600D. Now with the 533MC I am amazed at this setup, personally for me.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great combination!
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Cuiv! Question about the Carbon Fiber tripod: was it easy to adapt the AZ-EQ5 to it? Did you DIY to get the Azimuth registration pin to the right place?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico! The adapter actually comes with the tripod, so it's all ready to go, just plop the AZEQ5 on top and it just works (tm), you can check it out here: www.firstlightoptics.com/tripods/sightron-japan-carbon-fiber-tripod.html
@marcusa3177
@marcusa3177 3 жыл бұрын
Filing under "shit anyone who plans to start the hobby should see even before buying their gear". Glad you're back in the groove Cuiv, hope the injury is healing well. Don't get me wrong - I love my commute/backpack/camping* friendly setup** and I'm more poor than lazy so my astro camera double-duties as a terrestial camera (or vice versa) and I'm totally fine with staying up near my rig since I love stargazing. That said - if I already have an iOptron SkyGuider Pro, is it even a good idea to get to longer-FL dedicated telescopes for a full EAA rig? Or it's beyond the tracker's payload capabilities and I have get a whole new rig if I want to do more? Thanks and clear skies, clean glass! * camping as in the usual camping, not in the Japanese context where a lot of the places are closer to glamping. ** the SkyGuider Pro with the upgraded base from William Optics, the Olympus OM-D EM-5 mkII and the 100-400mm f5-6.3 lens with a clip-on dual narrowband filter, and a ZWO ASIAir Pro+guide scope pack
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcus! Well, EAA is much less demanding - as long as you don't get too much wind the SkyGuider can physically carry a heavier load (full disclosure - I've used a C9.25 on an AZ-GTi, but in Alt-Az mode). As long as you don't go ham, a longer FL scope could potentially work for EAA. Although I am no expert on the matter!
@davidkennedy3050
@davidkennedy3050 3 жыл бұрын
Great resource for a novice imager looking at equipment! One note about the ASIAIR, the QHY guide camera would not be supported. I also recommend a small windows NUC instead. Cheaper and better.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@rbrbrts
@rbrbrts 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Brooklyn, NY, also a Bortle 9 site. I can't leave my scope outside, but I do leave it fully assembled in my garage so setting it up means putting it in the back alley and polar aligning. Tools like SharpCap, or the Linux equivalents CCDciel and Ekos, which I also use, make a huge difference. Being able to go from opening my garage to bring polar aligned and ready to image within 15 minutes is the difference between imaging and going to bed 😁.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! You are probably in worse conditions than I am! Imaging in Brooklyn, now that's crazy!
@basfinnis
@basfinnis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Really helpful 😉
@williamhouse5081
@williamhouse5081 3 жыл бұрын
I think you could make an argument for the wear and tear of setting equipment up and tearing it down every time you use it. Leaving it out but well protected can't be much worse. And Thanks again for another great video!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
True! I hadn't considered that!
@adamfilip
@adamfilip 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a series of video. Talking about what complete setup to get if you only have $1000, $2000, $3000 etc.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very good idea!
@rossblezard574
@rossblezard574 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, you are smashing them out at the moment!
@damiengalanaud3817
@damiengalanaud3817 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Cuiv. Do you really find a luminance filter useful with a OSC camera ? There seems to be some controversy on the topic. If so, which one would you recommend ? Happy to see you are fully back on line. Best Damien
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize there was controversy on the topic! With a non-modded DSLR, it's not needed. With an astro-cam... I've always used one. I don't recommend any in particular, I've used Baader and Optolong and both seem to be fine
@Juan-Ibiza
@Juan-Ibiza 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, and a very balanced setup. Thanks Cuiv.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stargazer2455
@stargazer2455 Жыл бұрын
brilliant vid! Subbed
@winstonwolfe340
@winstonwolfe340 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv, thank you for all your excellent videos and your enthusiasm! I have now decided to invest in a rig similar to the one you show in this video (it´s your fault! 😉). A few hints from you would be highly appreciated. Here is my planned rig: - mount: Skywatcher AZ GTI in EQ mode (I already have it) - scope: same as yours (Sharpstar 61....) - ASIAIR Plus computer - same camera as yours (ASI 533 MC Pro) - guide scope & guide cam from ZWO - ZWO EAF focusser (maybe, not sure if necessary for EAA) Priority #1 for me is to establish EAA. I assume this will be possible with the ASIAIR Plus? I want to view deep sky objects on a tablet screen & also do some outreach to schoolkids etc. Serious astrophotography may follow later. The total weight of the rig as above is just below 3.5 kg. Skywatcher states that the AZ GTI is good for a payload up to 5 kg. Do you think this OK for EAA? Alternatively I could go for an ASKAR FMA230 scope. It weighs 900 g less than the sharpstar 61, but only has 50mm aperture. Any thoughts on the weight & scope question? Filter-holder: Can you please let me know which filter holder you used for this setup? Autofocusser: how important would you think is an autofocusser for EAA? I guess due to the short total exposure times I can leave this investment for later when I get into astrophotography? It would also save some weight. It would be great to get some input from you! Cheers Winston
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! On EAA, you can check some of my recent videos on the ASIAIR - I include a live stack capability tutorial. I think for EAA, the AZGTi in EQ mode would be good enough. For imaging, I really need to do more testing with the Sharpstar on AZ-GTi in EQ mode, I can't say for sure. I used an old Teleskop Express filter holder - it's no longer made, but there are many similar offerings on TS, Aliexpress, Starizona, etc. As for autofocus, I don't think you need it for EAA! Manual focus will be just fine. Good luck!
@winstonwolfe340
@winstonwolfe340 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thank you Cuiv! Very helpful. I have the luxury of living under a Bortle 3 sky, so not admiring the beauties of the night sky would really be a pity....☺ Cheers & clear skies Winston
@winstonwolfe340
@winstonwolfe340 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek another quick question: I have almost decided to go for a ASI183MC Pro camera due to the smaller pixel size (2.4um). Should enable me to get high resolution on smaller targets compared to ASI533MC Pro (3.7um). After all I will only have 230mm focal length. Drawback is that it´s only a 12bit camera, so "only" 15000e full well. Any red flags for EAA in your opinion? Last question: what filters would you recommend? I will get an IR/UV cut filter to get better stars. What about a light pollution filter? Any recommendations? Cheers Winston P.S. I saw your ASAIR Plus videos. Seeing a geek like you that firmly believes in open source & freedom of choice say "lock me in, baby!" made my decision quite easy. 😁
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@winstonwolfe340 Make sure to check the video where I wish for more features in the ASIAIR. Ok now on the camera - I personally don't care about resolution. I would go every single time with the 533. It has better dynamic range, it's a VERY easy to handle sensor, and it's just a pleasure to work with. Plus less read noise (important for EAA where exposure length can be short) and larger pixels make it less sensitive to tracking errors. However this comes down to my personal preference! As for filters, I'd suggest to start with a normal UV IR cut filter. Later, if you like photographing nebulae, something like an L-eXtreme filter would work well!
@winstonwolfe340
@winstonwolfe340 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Wow! That was quick. Cheers & thanks, will watch your video, Winston
@beatsntoons
@beatsntoons 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am thinking about getting something smaller (using an EQ6-R and Esprit 120 currently) for travelling overseas. Obviously this mount is way too large, but it'd be cool to have an AZGTI for instance to travel with. And when back home, I can take it out as a second mount to shoot wide-field.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Also, for really compact travel, the AZ-GTi can be used in alt-az for 30s or so exposures - it can work remarkably well!
@CaptRescue2
@CaptRescue2 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview Cuiv! Thanks!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@VisionCommunications
@VisionCommunications 2 жыл бұрын
That looks advanced to me!
@PeterFullen
@PeterFullen 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a great and well explained video. Thanks a bunch for doing these videos!!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and my pleasure!
@TheUrbanAstronomer
@TheUrbanAstronomer 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video packed with info!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@didiermicoud8227
@didiermicoud8227 3 жыл бұрын
Took me more than a year to learn all the things you're going through in 32min !
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Now I hope that KZbin Algorithm can show the video to budding astrophotographers in need :p
@neokart3926
@neokart3926 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, buddy!! Thanks 👍
@abhijittamuli1609
@abhijittamuli1609 3 жыл бұрын
Always like your Videos Quiv. Get well soon!!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kkename737
@kkename737 3 жыл бұрын
Lazy Guy, Thank you for your updates refreshing course for beginners. Thank you again.🙂✨
@endolf
@endolf 3 жыл бұрын
The original ASIAir was a raspberry pi with a pre installed kstars hidden behind their own app. I use a raspberry pi with stellarmate to control my rigs, which takes 5v, so I have a 12v to 5v step down strapped to the pi. I run off a single 12v supply :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know it was actually using kstars! This explains a lot
@martrich1098
@martrich1098 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. You're on fire! :)
@valdasstonkus5493
@valdasstonkus5493 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the good video. How mutch this all setup cost?
@Dennis-tf2cs
@Dennis-tf2cs 3 жыл бұрын
Great information as always! Thank you.
@adityakinjawadekar562
@adityakinjawadekar562 3 жыл бұрын
Great in depth video as always!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jamescarlos516
@jamescarlos516 3 жыл бұрын
Hello again Cuiv! Wow, was this video ever on time. I have a similar setup with an Altair 70EDT-F Triplet with O.8X Focal Reducer/Flattener. Agreed, achieving back focus is a huge source of pain. I had originally intended to incorporate an Orion Thin OAG. I spent over two weeks trying to reach equal back focus for both primary and guide cameras, and just could not. I eventually went with guide camera set up like you. My question, is using an OAG on these small fast refractors sometimes just not possible?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmh I have used an OAG with camera lenses just for the fun (!) , and it did work at F4. I think it can be made to work, but likely noth worth the hassle compared to an external guider.
@nxu5107
@nxu5107 3 жыл бұрын
First a v e r y good video as ever. The cables are set out in a quite lazy way but is there a not so lazy way keep the cables tidy? Those cables do my head in! Hope your recovery is going well.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah at some point I'll probably manage those cables :)
@cdavidhord
@cdavidhord 3 жыл бұрын
Cuiv's really back!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I can manage :)
@geert5811
@geert5811 3 жыл бұрын
Up until 20:20 I was thinking, YES, Cuiv is using a raspberry pi with KStars/Ekos, but no to my utter disappointment the gray box is a windows computer, even worse he mixes up Arduino with raspberry pi and only mentions zwo's asiair. I know, I keep banging the same nail :) But the video was, as usual, excellent; wish I could have seen it beginning 2020, when I started this hobby. It would have saved me a lot of frustration and with that gray hair; and I wouldn't be struggling and cursing with my Newtonian's collimation every freaking session. g.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, sorry! Yeah, a Raspberry Pi system would be great! But NINA.... :-)
@giohelp
@giohelp 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very much i learn a lot from you. 💚
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, glad this was useful!
@rudyamaya2532
@rudyamaya2532 3 жыл бұрын
Again a great video! Can you tell me again where you bought the cover you use for your setup? Keep up with the good work.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
It's a telegizmo 365, which is available in different sizes, for instance here: bit.ly/3kAz0ql
@darknight_astro
@darknight_astro 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the way you've got your desiccant set up.
@marcusa3177
@marcusa3177 3 жыл бұрын
it's probably an 'Only in Japan' kind of thing. If you have a Daiso or a similar 100-yen shop nearby you'd find that hanger rig there.
@aw7425
@aw7425 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you are an inspiration
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that feedback!
@astrojw1039
@astrojw1039 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing that should not be skimped on is the mount. You can get a basic camera, there are decent selections of nice small scopes out there. But if the mount has issues, and you can't tune as well, it will hurt your images. Also its a must to run NINA ;).
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
That is very true - although at low focal length without wind, you'd really have to get a lemon!
@astrojw1039
@astrojw1039 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I was thinking more along the lines if you want a platform that extends enough to accept a bigger scope. Vs buying a bigger mount etc.
@paulgatley
@paulgatley 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stevepecket2535
@stevepecket2535 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Can I just clarify the bag you Hung up under the all weather cover. Is it moisture crystals?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Basically that's it, desiccant that is quite useful in the humid Japanese summer
@mstott22lax
@mstott22lax 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent introductory video for someone new like me. Can you recommend any books for astrophotography? Or any large resource of this information
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
I personally loved "The Astrophotography Manuel" by Chris Woodhouse
@mstott22lax
@mstott22lax 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek thank you!
@adamfilip
@adamfilip 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of cables hanging is crazy. There must be solutions to make this easier to manage
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
There are! I've just been too lazy to cable manage!
@ApoorvaIyer
@ApoorvaIyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cuiv, I hope you see this message. On the laziness factor I am especially interested because I live in the Northwest United States where we get pure cloud cover with one clear sky every 2-3 months. I am curious to know whether you leave your wires and how you deal with electricals in the hot/cold weather.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 жыл бұрын
So I leave my wires, just make sure they're never in contact with water! And cold/hot weather hasn't been an issue for me...
@derekbaker3279
@derekbaker3279 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Cuiv! 👍👍
@lucasmaguire7625
@lucasmaguire7625 3 жыл бұрын
Does an itty bitty fan count? I mean the ZWO ASI533MC-Pro has a fan........ AND THAT DOESNT MESS UP IMAGING. I use the Beelink T-34 Mini PC. 8g of ram and 128gb SSD. AND it plugs right into my Pegasus PPADV. 12v 1.5a. :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Fans are fine :) In theory they could create enough vibration on small mounts that they are a source of bad "seeing", but negligible for us
@lucasmaguire7625
@lucasmaguire7625 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek well good thing my eq6r pro is like 100000 lbs 😂🤣
@ellandra4407
@ellandra4407 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribe. your video help me a lot. How many DSO this sharpstar 61edph ii can see? up to 100 or more? will definitely be my next scope for sure. Looking for a portability scope.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! With a camera and in a dark area, a LOT of DSOs can be imaged. Even in Tokyo pretty much all of the emission nebulae are available. Smaller galaxies and planetary nebulae may be an issue.
@andreafassio7269
@andreafassio7269 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv, as you suggested I'm considering this setup. Question regarding the Telescope. Do you recommend a shop that would sell the Sharpstar61 or a possible substitute? Thank you in advance for your help!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 жыл бұрын
I can't recommend any shop in particular (except japanese shops, in which case Kyoei Tokyo or Osaka is good)! In terms of the telescopes the Askar FRA400 is faster and I heard good things about it (but more expensive). The Celestron C6+Hyperstar is also a good possibility to image at F2!
@garybarr7116
@garybarr7116 3 жыл бұрын
Chic, I’m not sure where to ask this question. I’m very frustrated with guiding. How can I tell if my issues are with the mount or something else. Any tips? I used to get a total error of around .75 in phd2. Now, I can’t get better than 2.63. It seems to be caused by a very slight snag on a cable. Ever since, I can’t get better than 2.6. My PA is good as I use Polemaster and confirm and fine tune with Sharpcap.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmh diagnosing guiding errors is very hard. I would recommend having a look at this document: openphdguiding.org/Analyzing_PHD2_Guide_Logs.pdf . If you used to get better guiding, it could be backlash has increased, or worm-gear meshing is worse than before (I have a video somewhere on how to adjust that for the EQ6R). Try running the PHD2 Guiding Assistant to see what it diagnoses... If the assistant finds a lot of backlash in DEC for instance you may want to adjust the gear, or to intentionally misalign your PA, so that DEC guiding can be done in one direction only!
@pabloachard1679
@pabloachard1679 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Very useful. I often read that beginners should start simple and master simple equipment before going to automated focussing, guiding, etc. What's your take on this? There's also a budget issue: the total price of your equipment is in the 5k range I believe.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Well.... Let's say that if I could go back in time to my beginnings, I'd build the setup I have from the get go. As a beginner you need to understand polar alignment, proper focusing, proper tracking anyway. Getting to automated versions of that is not a stretch, and lowers the workload (and gives better results). If you go the usual route, you'll do incremental spending on a lot of equipment you'll end up replacing. I guarantee you will have spent more on the incremental equipment.
@davidkennedy3050
@davidkennedy3050 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Doing it the long way is not only more expensive as you say because you have to replace a lot of gear. It will also take more time to learn and is simply harder. The only reason to do this incrementally is the cost and a limited budget.
@flexable9256
@flexable9256 2 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek That would be assuming you'd have the knowledge and experience you have now. And that would be a waste of time and money anyway, as your next year/two years setup will surely be totally different than this one :) This is astrophotography, once you're too close from the invisible blackhole that hides in it, you can't escape. ;)
@gary5051
@gary5051 3 жыл бұрын
Cluiv, I found your comment interesting on how the TG 365 cover reduces the lifespan of you equipment but increases the use you get out of it. I’m struggling with this issue since my TG 365 cover leaks profusely at the seams. I’ve tried unsuccessfully to reach the TG folks for suggestions on how to better waterproof the seams. If you have had similar seam leakage, can you help me with suggestions on how to fix the seams? As it stands, my mount and OTA get quite wet from the leak and the hanging desiccant unit does no prevent condensation since the cover is open to the atmosphere and no disiccant can dry out the atmosphere. Any suggestions to get the TG 365 cover to work properly would be a huge help. Gary
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen leaking with my covers - this sounds like a lemon and you should absolutely get it replaced. Otherwise, a fan under the cover can help avoid formation of dew in the first place.
@Steve-br7wt
@Steve-br7wt 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should do a video on cable management ;)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Aarrrrggghhhh, it goes against my nature! But one day... one day!
@Steve-br7wt
@Steve-br7wt 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek ignore me. It’s my ocd talking 😂
@jonkjon
@jonkjon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another great video! Regarding your TeleGizomos cover, what types of daytime temperatures do you see in the summer time where you live? It gets rather hot here in the US where I live and I would be worried that temperatures in excess of 100 degrees below the cover would be too much for the electronic components to handle. I thought about one of these covers but, for now, I leave the mount outside (with an Orion cover over it) and bring everything else in during the summer heat.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
We have high humidity along with 95 degrees or so in summer (so likely much more under the cover). Amazingly, the computer underneath soldiers on even on 100+ degrees days...
@AdamCohen95
@AdamCohen95 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos about what cables to use? How do you power the mount etc?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
I use bog standard cables from Amazon - I have some coverage of that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6Gzh2qgjrV0gK8
@TheFranqd
@TheFranqd 3 жыл бұрын
Hi just a simple question, after mount the EAF you loose the manual focusing ? …an another beginner question aren’t worried about your equipment… maybe starts with cleaner night and turns to raining night ¿? thanks a lots
@TheFranqd
@TheFranqd 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about level of English !!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, after mounting the EAF, you lose manual focusing. That's one disadvantage compared to other solutions like Moonlite that offer a clutch (but are super expensive). As for my equipment... yes I am worried about rain, so I will only leave it uncovered if I am 100% sure it's not going to rain!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is fine!
@RaduChelariu
@RaduChelariu 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who owns the Askar FRA400, it's definitely not similar to the Sharpstar. The Askar is a quintuplet in a Petzval design, vs the Sharpstar which is a classic air spaced triplet. Both are fine scopes, just different construction and each with its own benefits and downsides.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Radu - how do you like the FRA400 - their design is indeed different, but I'm wondering about what downsides the FRA400 has vs the Sharpstar (besides price). It seems a net win for the FRA400 (again, price notwithstanding)
@datasoong1
@datasoong1 3 жыл бұрын
More similar than you think, Sharpstar makes Askar.
@RaduChelariu
@RaduChelariu 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek While the Askar is easier to use (no backfocus requirements), and extremely well corrected, it’s also heavier and, indeed, more expensive. For me it strikes the right balance between portability, price and performance and I don’t plan on getting another refractor for many years to come.
@RaduChelariu
@RaduChelariu 3 жыл бұрын
@@datasoong1 Yup, same company. But their construction is different.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense! Weight is indeed a drawback, thanks for pointing it out!
@bluestar2253
@bluestar2253 3 жыл бұрын
How much are we looking at for such a setup, including mount, telescope, imager, etc.? $15K?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
This particular setup, bought new, would be around $4-5k. Most of what I buy however is second hand. Yes money is indeed necessary!
@bluestar2253
@bluestar2253 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks so much for your quick response. That ballpark number is definitely within my budget. :)
@woody5109
@woody5109 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this video before I bought my DSLR ☹️
@williamkacensky4796
@williamkacensky4796 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you still answering comments?
@woody5109
@woody5109 2 жыл бұрын
How can we view some of your photos?
@constellationshots3893
@constellationshots3893 3 жыл бұрын
in other words, money, lol, I like this video very nice.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
:D Exactly!
@pigi_experiment
@pigi_experiment 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use the main camera for autoguider as well?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
In general, no - if you use the main camera as autoguider, then you can't use it as main camera while it's guiding (e.g. it can't take a long exposure and take short exposures at the same time). But you could use your whole imaging train as a guider for another setup for instance.
@pigi_experiment
@pigi_experiment 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I'm wondering if from software point of view it's possible to extract data from the main camera sensor while it's taking a long exposure.
@glennsmooth
@glennsmooth 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of your tripod??
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
It's the Sightron Japan Carbon Fiber Tripod (www.firstlightoptics.com/tripods/sightron-japan-carbon-fiber-tripod.html)
@ly8370
@ly8370 3 жыл бұрын
I folded and tied up all my cables with cable ties.
@stephen2615
@stephen2615 3 жыл бұрын
Uh oh... You said two words together. QHY and CHEAP. That's it. No more test cameras from Dr Qiu.. One of my acquaintances decided to go back to a Star Adventurer because of its simplicity. I am waiting for your cable management video. Me thinks it will never happen.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
I understand the feeling with the Star Adventurer! I'm still looking forward to using my Pentax camera with Astrotracer as well. Just to feel more hands on.
@jamesmunoz5786
@jamesmunoz5786 3 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thejohngalt
@thejohngalt 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. But not beginner level at all.
@lunawatanabe5311
@lunawatanabe5311 3 жыл бұрын
Silly Cuiv, we all know what you ACTUALLY need for DSO Astrophotography is an infinite amount of luck, and praying to the cloud gods!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Also infinite money usually helps :D
@cemoguz2786
@cemoguz2786 2 жыл бұрын
Alot of cables
@popamircea5186
@popamircea5186 2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation ps your voice is so evil 😈 😅🤣
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