Cultish: John Alexander Dowie: A 19th Century Faith Healer's Descent into Madness, Pt. 2

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[@banemaler]

Would you all address the claim that Christianity is a mushroom cult. Source material dead sea scroll research and the Allegro book The Sacred Mushroom and the cross. There is a Joe Rogan clip making the rounds supposed debunking the original of the Christian religion. If not a full blown episode then a short form response style clip.

[@jody2873]

The last part of this interview reminds me of John Paul Jackson. JPJ developed "Streams Ministries" involving the "prophetic", dream and vision interpretation, including healing, etc. I liked John Paul alot and part of what I liked about him was a certain level of humility that he had learned through life. I had watched him for years before I entered his internship. JPJ's whole ministry was based on what he had learned in life in regards to the spirit, his spiritual out of body encounters in "The Throne Room" of God, etc and he taught on healing and how if you have basically more 'units' from all the people praying and believing, that healing will happen. Only a few years after he closed down the internship and ministry to go do other stuff, he was diagnosed with cancer and went on one of the common "prophetic" shows ( I believe TBN) and told the people on the show that he was healed, he died within about a year of that interview. Knowing what he believed, and being involved in his ministry and knowiing how he thought, a "positive confession" was keeping those belief systems alive and then his body was to follow...It didn't. I only know 2 people who were in those internships who have not rejected the gospel and gone their own way afterward. Proper teaching and exegesis is so necessary. Thanks for this show 👍

[@ryanjorgenson2370]

There is a growing cult in Jacksonville FL. Untamed Truth. Would love to have you all speak on this and if that encourages believers to come help us rescue people out and stop people from being sucked in, that would be awesome! Thanks

[@jaquirox6579]

I haven’t heard of that one! Can you summarize what wrong there? 🙏🏽

[@ryanjorgenson2370]

@@jaquirox6579 Thanks for asking. 1. They teach a person needs to work their way into heaven. Believing in Jesus' life, death and resurrection is just one necessary but insufficient work. In other words, Jesus is necessary but not enough. Many Scriptures teach this is false and denies someone salvation. 2. They teach someone can obtain perfection in this life when multiple passages teach us we can grow more like Jesus but perfection is not ultimately obtainable until glorification when we receive our new body in Heaven. 3. They twist Scripture like it's going out of style on all sorts of passages. 4. They manipulate and control those who join their group. We know of multiple former members who have been deeply hurt (some needing professional biblical counseling) because they finally got out. 5. They literally celebrate and cheer the death of their own parents. 6. Etc. Here's a video of me confronting them in an attempt to stop them from sucking in university students. watch?v=oS7CXJrEQYU&list=WL&index=7&t=362s We are also releasing another video tomorrow further exposing their recent celebration of one of their members' dad's death. Evil.

[@ryanjorgenson2370]

@@jaquirox6579 Here's the latest level of evil the Untamed "Twisted" Truth cult has gone and our exposure and confrontation of it. /watch?v=hQBuISbcZ-Y

[@ryanjorgenson2370]

The Untamed "Twisted" Truth cult is live once again at one of our local universities asking students "Are you in?" watch?v=4RLaswIbL-k

[@jaquirox6579]

@@ryanjorgenson2370 Your comments are getting shadow banned brother.

[@davyboy3869]

Good morning boys!!!! God bless!

[@joshuawoodin]

She is awsome and strong. A strong example of God's grace ! I hope we as humans need to stop telling ourselves we arnt worthy of jesus help. If that's the case then paul would not be worthy for what he did before coming to christ.

[@caterina_music]

I also was in a cult and left. The cult still keep trying to get me to go back to them. They manipulated me to give them many thousands of pounds,using the same tactics as these people you spoke about. I didn't know till I watched this video that these people were cult leaders. I am so glad you made this video to make people aware what they were really about.

[@REKKnives]

Hey guys, thanks for all you do and for pointing people to Scripture! Quick question... At some point could you define the difference between a cult and world religion? I wouldn't know how to explain that to someone.

[@d_e_a_n]

How can we confirm 28:00 with the Borg and jw thing. Most interesting thing I’ve heard in a while. Really want to find any proof of this at all. Does Hassan write about it?

[@manuscus6289]

Brother can you turn on captions ? Thank you!

[@albertlopez2237]

I don't know of anyone today fallowing Alexander D extreme teachings. About doctors and medicine. Nor am I aware of any faith healer today that teaches this.

[@BC-qb2if]

Hello @Albert Lopez: It doesn't really need to be taught anymore. It has become part of the regular mindset in some sects of the Charismatic church. I know someone who a Charismatic. He thinks just like John Collins, when John was describing The Message cult mindset about doctors and medications.

[@jody2873]

@@BC-qb2if totally agree. It is very ingrained into the Charasmatic church and especially those that are based in the "prophetic". That "spirit of Elijah" belief is part of their montra.

[@justinhelin2752]

This is alive and well in Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. Basically, the thought process is simple: God heals if you have faith. Any time you take meds you aren’t giving God a chance to heal you because you’re supposed to believe He is the healer. The thought is there, even if not overtly being hammered from the pulpit.

[@nordicsolitude831]

Informative interview, but it wasn't helpful to equate those who reject the "covid" shot (and/or vaxxes in general) with faith healers and the like. There are plenty of scientific reasons to be skeptical regarding the claims of "covid" shots.

[@Rupunzelsawake]

I have never ever heard that the JWs inspired the actual creation of the "borg". So Steven Hasaan revealed that? I'm kind of a bit skeptical about this claim.

[@berglen100]

Paul told you OT is Allegory stories not persons, the story of John Baptists was greatest born of woman but still least.

[@LadyRevel22.2o.21]

Make sure the cult helpers aren't occultist! Read the Bible and trust the Lord!!! Jesus Christ is Lord!

[@berglen100]

Spirit isn't born by woman only with seed that male also does and Christ neither in him or you.

[@berglen100]

Do you even know what last day means under the sun? When you know Christ in you makes you one with Christ then doesn't stay under the sun, your still judging by your natural mind still blind about Christ in you.

[@berglen100]

Luke 17:20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Is to remind you cult still has Spirit from seed to Christ, seed does fail many times but Spiritual seed never fails, to judge show your still able to judge others is your still weak level of Spiritual ability of Christ in you, each religous and church based on outside dust teaching and looking for Christ to show up is falsh hope. Nothing defeats Spirit like your hero wasn't correct on what will happen to failure being cult is worring Spirit is typical christians worry is not strong faith. your funny about weakness of Spirits ability is your weak Christ you must look outside and feel your saved and others lost with fake seed.

[@berglen100]

You learn nothing about Spirits Eternal power man game down from.