Culture Shock USA (with Feli from Germany) | Easy German Podcast 412

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Feli from Germany ist zu Gast bei uns im Podcast! Sie erzählt uns, wie und wieso sie vor vielen Jahren aus dem heimischen München in die USA ausgewandert ist und welche Kulturschocks sie dort erlebt hat. Außerdem sprechen wir mit Feli über Heimweh, das unterschiedliche Freundschaftsverständnis in beiden Ländern und über Loyalität, Direktheit und Pünktlichkeit.
Feli from Germany is our guest on the podcast! She tells us how and why she emigrated from her hometown Munich to the USA many years ago and about the culture shocks she experienced there. Additionally, we talk with Feli about homesickness, the different understanding of friendship in both countries, and about loyalty, directness, and punctuality.
Wichtige Vokabeln in dieser Episode:
- doppelte Staatsbürgerschaft: Wenn jemand die Staatsangehörigkeit von zwei Ländern gleichzeitig besitzt
- das Heimweh: Sehnsucht nach Zuhause oder einem vertrauten Ort, besonders wenn man weit weg ist
- die Zuverlässigkeit: Eigenschaft, immer das zu tun, was versprochen wurde
- jemanden ghosten: Plötzlich und ohne Erklärung den Kontakt zu jemandem abbrechen
- sich auseinanderleben: Wenn zwei Personen emotional voneinander entfernen, oft in Beziehungen oder Freundschaften
- der Umzug: Aktion, bei der man seinen Wohnort wechselt
- die "Rechts vor Links"-Regel: Verkehrsregel, bei der Fahrzeuge von rechts Vorfahrt haben, wenn es keine anderen Anweisungen gibt
- der Kumpel: Freund oder Bekannter
Kapitel:
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Thema der Woche: Kulturunterschiede Deutschland vs. USA
02:25 - Green Card Lottery
05:15 - High School-Erfahrungen
09:23 - Felis Identität als Deutsche
12:20 - Heimweh
14:12 - Direktheit, Zuverlässigkeit & Freundschaft
17:17 - Pünktlichkeit
19:19 - Tipps für Leute, die nach Deutschland ziehen
24:25 - Einmischen in Fehler
29:04 - Warum Felis Podcast endet
30:12 - Verabschiedung
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[@FelifromGermany]

Danke nochmal für die Einladung und das tolle Gespräch! :)

[@EasyGerman]

Das können wir nur zurück geben!

[@dkim2011]

@@EasyGerman @FelifromGermany Really hooked on both your channels. In the future I'd love to see both of you cover: German words with no adequate counterpart in English - AND - English words with no adequate counterpart in German. I got the idea from Feli's channel, where she alludes to "Schönfärberei," which seems a bit closer to "prettifying" than to "whitewashing" in all its connotations (and which doesn't appear as salient as whitewashing is in English.)

[@eliasshakkour2904]

@@dkim2011 sugarcoating?

[@dkim2011]

@@eliasshakkour2904 Sugarcoating is the more general term that can also refer to personal/interpersonal affairs, whereas whitewashing refers more specifically to such things as censorship,; an often ideological program of deception (as it relates to history and politics, for example); and the means institutions use to improve their reputation.

[@FelifromGermany]

@@dkim2011 15 GENIUS German words that are MISSING in English! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKqrgp-JapWEq80

[@AtomicChinese]

I must honestly say that Feli has a way of speaking German that is so understandable! Would love a new episode.

[@roberthohlt469]

Feli is a wonderful German Ambassador. I watch all her videos, and have started watching other similar videos. Big Fan.

[@mich3423]

Ich have Feli nie so viel auf Deutsch reden sehen. Tolle Episode 💜

[@madaladin369]

Perfect verschrieben ;) 😅

[@bechri9573]

@@madaladin369 Betterwisser!

[@FunkerAbsinth]

feli in deutsch zu hören is einfach ungewohnt

[@fernandasimoes7131]

Leute, das war eine supertolle Episode!!! Ihr solltet auf jeden Fall noch ein paar Episoden zusammen drehen. :) :) :) LG

[@eljuano28]

How wonderful to see Feli on your channel! I love her content. Her's was the first German oriented KZbin channel I started watching. My mom's family come from Pennsylvania Dutch, (who are actually Deutsche descendents, not Nederlandse volk.) None of them speak German or P.dutch anymore. I'm at the level of reading English subtitles and catching/recognizing just a few German words here and there, but my daughter, (who is near Feli's age,) is learning with me, so it's important time spent even if I just can't seem to figure out when to use Die, Der or Das yet. Tschuss!

[@Winona493]

Unfortunately it is impossible to figure out if it is "der, die or das".😂 There is no rule, no ending or whatever where you can detect the fitting article. I fear you have to learn the article together with the words. Nevertheless- awesome that you start learning German! ! 😃

[@richardowen1130]

​@@Winona493Well, there are some word endings which do give you a clue to the word's gender e.g. -ung words are feminine and -chen words are neuter. It's not 100% though and you're right, it's best to learn the gender alongside the word.

[@adlovett9831]

Feli spricht wirklich Deutsch, das habe bis jetzt nie gehört😂

[@Marco-zt6fz]

sie kommt ja schliesslich aus Bayern

[@adlovett9831]

@@Marco-zt6fz ja, das weiß ich, aber ich habe sie nie gehört, während sie Deutsch spricht.

[@kar460]

​@@adlovett9831I've heard feli speak German. She spoke to her boyfriend. But she spoke English to her viewers lol.

[@davidbraun6209]

Ich habe andre Videos gesehen, wo Feli Deutsch sprach, z.B. mit einen andren Deutschen, dessen Namen ich vergesse.

[@adlovett9831]

@@davidbraun6209 die habe ich nicht zugeschaut, es ist Tatsache, dass sie öfter dreht Videos auf Englisch als auf Deutsch.

[@lepwr9433]

two of my fav channels zusammen! Both great and entertaining as I learn to speak German

[@cloudyskies5497]

Found this channel from Feli's and subscribed! Excited to watch more Easy German. I've taken the A1 test and am studying for the A2. I lived briefly in Austria and experienced the same thing with a friend. We agreed to meet but I felt sick and canceled as soon as I realized I didn't want to go. I apologized; it was last minute (maybe 15 minutes before) but I thought it would be okay since she lives really close to the coffee shop so she could just walk home. She got super mad! Said my apologies don't mean anything. In the end, she got so mad that I ended our friendship even though she was willing to continue being friends after taking a two-week break from me. The whole thing was so startling (the intensity of her anger, and the friend vacation thing, then coming back like nothing happened) that I couldn't take the whiplash and ended the friendship. After that, I happily made friends with internationals who were more easy going, but I was careful to not commit to anything with an Austrian. I came away with a handful of Austrian friends, but they were all ones that were interested in American culture and willing to meet up and hang out more casually. I'd post things to our group chat like "I'll be at the coffee shop this afternoon if anyone wants to join me!" And they'd respond like "I'll pop in after work, see you around 5:30 if you're still there!" From that experience I realized that the pressure took the fun out of it for me. Like if I agreed to something so strict, knowing that if the tram were late she might blow up at me, it just made me feel like I mattered less to her than her own time so I ultimately didn't want to take up her time.

[@chrisherman7531]

I enjoyed the show. Had to watch the English subtitles but I could pick up some meanings throughout the interview. Thank you from Buffalo , NY.

[@K8izL8]

I just moved back to Colorado after living in Germany five years. The biggest reverse culture shock for me is the bad driving here and people running red lights. I’m so happy to have my ice maker in my refrigerator back and free ice water in restaurants.

[@sherion80]

Free tap water stinking of chlorine? That makes you really happy?

[@richardowen1130]

@K8izL8 Ha ha, the thing is, if you drive badly on the autobahn, where everyone's doing 100+ mph, you're not going to last long.

[@PV1230]

lane discipline is terrible in the US.

[@ncmps]

I'm subscribed to both Feli from Germany and Easy German, It's great when people I follow get together.

[@e.k.4508]

Was für eine tolle Folge, die Begeisterung strahlt von allen dreien aus! I love both channels of Easy German and Feli from Germany. Thanks from the Netherlands ❤

[@DougWinfield]

There's no way they could possibly get Feli to speak as slowly as them.

[@Al.bienchen]

And its good so, I practiced my German audio skills with Feli and my lovely Manuel and Cari. And I understood every word. Thanks for such a good speach and speed. :)

[@Heshelton]

Das is wahr!

[@fermorales]

Liebe Manuel und Cari, Ich schreibe hier nur, weil es aktueller ist: Congratulations on episode 411 of the Podcast, on cultural appropriation. 👏It's a pleasure to learn German by listening to conversations on interesting topics and through interviews. I hope that you will continue to add more guest voices to the podcast, as you have been doing so far, as this diversity of views is very much appreciated 💜

[@Baboherz]

Wo kann ich die podcasts finden

[@EasyGerman]

Hey@@Baboherz du kannst unseren Podcast in allen Podcast-Apps finden und auf unserer Website: www.easygerman.fm :) Liebe Grüße 👋

[@fang_shi_tong]

Three of my favorite Germans all in one YT place! Sie sind der Hammer! 😄

[@ndear2955]

I'm so glad Feli did a video with you guys!

[@Aarozinho]

Regarding asking friends to help you move… I think one cultural difference is that in the USA, paying for things to be convenient is much more common. Whether it’s movers, house cleaners, valet parking, or grocery delivery, we like convenience and if we can afford it, we don’t mind paying for it.

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

Good point. Friendship goes much further in Germany. The move was just one example. If your car breaks down on the highway at three in the morning, your toddler needs to be looked after, you want to remodel a house, you have severe depression; Whenever you need help, a real friend will offer help and actually do it. That's why it's not easy to make friends here.

[@ballingerlandscaping]

An American might also opt to pay someone because they don't want to impose on someone, especially one from another culture.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

​@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_WursteinlageAgreed. I'm a Russian immigrant in America. Been here my whole life, except the first four years. I think the saying goes that Americans are peaches while Russians are coconuts. Americans are super sweet and polite but it's all surface level. While Russians are harder to open up and are super loyal and will be there for you. Not saying Americans aren't loyal or Russians are not sweet, but you get it. Reserved cultures are often colder for outsiders, but living in a superficial politeness is lonely too. And, yes, I am comparing Russian reservedness to German reservedness.

[@WandersonDavid_KariJobeBrasil]

Ich höre euren Podcast seit Tag 1. Es sind schon mehr als 4 Jahre 🤩 Ihr seid ein Teil meines Lebens geworden. Ich hoffe eines Tages sehe ich euch persönlich. Liebe Grüße aus Brasilien!

[@CoughFee]

Wow, your German is fantastic!

[@determineddi2044]

How nice to see two KZbin channels I watch together. I watch Feli and you guys from Easy German! I'm trying to learn German. It's been about a month. Greetings from New York. Hallo from New York!

[@hugos6444]

Of course I have heard of Feli and often watch her channel. She is not afraid to be opinionated or to challenge things. I commend her for taking on controvesial subjects like Circumcision. Thank you for having her on.

[@pqrstsma2011]

thank you for adding English subtitles!

[@francisconocedal]

Sehr tolles Video! Wie immer, es war total interessant... Vielen Dank!

[@kevinsieger147]

Learning German from New York. Enjoyed this podcast. With the subtitles I followed along fairly well. I’m at a B1 level. Enjoyed. Greetings from USA

[@jeffreyhooper3678]

Als Ami schäme ich mich für das schlechte Benehmen meiner jungeren Landsleute. Im Namen der gut erzogenen Amerikaner entschuldige ich mich bei Euch. Einigermaßen ist das rücksichtsloses Benehmen leider gang und gebe geworden und genau so schlimm wie Ihr es geschildert habt. Ich will aber auch hinzufügen daß es ein Generationsunterschied gibt. Die ältere Generation hält solches Verhalten für eine Unverschämtheit. Danke sehr für das fesselnde Interview!

[@stewartgriffin6907]

quit brown-nosing, they will not appreciate that anyway

[@jeffreyhooper3678]

Lieber Stewart, Ich bin kein Arschkriecher oder Schmeichler. Ich nenne das Kind beim Namen und habe mehrere Gelegenheiten gehabt als Highschoollehrer die deutschen und amerikanischen Schüler zu vergleichen. Der Unterschied damals war wie Tag und Nacht. Wie das heutzutage ist weiß ich nicht aber kann mir nicht vorstellen daß die Lage sich verbessert hat.

[@ArgusStrav]

@@jeffreyhooper3678 Du hast als Lehrer in Deutschland gearbeitet? Oder du hast deutsche Austauschschüler beobachtet?

[@jeffreyhooper3678]

@@ArgusStrav Hallo Argus! Ich war jahrelang Lehrer an einer amerikanischen high school und wir hatten ein Partnergymnasium in Deutschland unter der Stiftung German-American Partnership Program (GAPP).

[@CabinFever52]

I second your representation 100%.

[@Erron5G]

So cool, dass ihr Feli eingeladen und dabei hattet.

[@ddnote]

Krass! Das ist eine schöne Episode, dass Feli da war. All die 3 KZbinr sind meine Lieblingspodcaster.

[@MrMojo271]

I think that must be your generation, Feli. I’m an older American and we always let people know if we were coming to a meeting, or if we didn’t want to go. It’s the cyber kids who are too afraid to talk to someone face to face, or say something uncomfortable that ghost you

[@LanguagesWithAndrew]

Agreed. I also even think it's a minority of that younger generation, it's not even most of them. Most are good people who don't do that, it's just an obnoxious minority who give the rest a bad name, so to speak.

[@xio3857]

definitely generational. up to about 20 years ago, making multiple plans and/or not showing up we called "ditching" and it was not a cool thing to do. and before the age of the internet we always helped friends and family move. ironic how much "social" media has reduced sociability.

[@sk8rdman]

As an American, I'm appalled to hear about people making and abandoning plans. Maybe it's because I'm from a small town, but that's not been my experience. Or maybe people have been screwing me over this whole time and I somehow never noticed...

[@eliasshakkour2904]

Yeah I’ve been living in the US for about twenty years and I’m surprised to hear that she thinks it’s super common to flake without giving notice or to double-book. Neither is particularly common in my experience.

[@kar460]

Sk- start noticing!

[@canchero724]

Move to a large city and you'll see it being common, small townsfolk seem to be not be in on this appalling behavior yet but move to a city and you shall see it.

[@MrMojo271]

I think it’s her generation.

[@dkim2011]

@@MrMojo271 Same here, so I just asked my millennial kids they *also* don't know what she's referring to. I mean, I don't doubt for a second that she's had those experiences, but I remain baffled! (All three of us have lived in big cities all our lives.)

[@projekt3658]

Ich liebe Feli so sehr. So ein toller Mensch!

[@dianaos3154]

Danke für diese tolle Episode! Ihr helft mir, Deutsch zu lernen.

[@MS-lq8ik]

Super interessant, wünsche Feli alles Gute und viel Erfolg! Liebe Grüsse 😊

[@paultran888]

Amazing collaboration! 👏🏻🥰

[@sampsonlittle7368]

As an English speaking American , Feli has the best command of the English language, with out any hint of her being German. I am totally impressed.

[@dasrotrad]

Genau. Es ist erstaunlich, wie gut Feli in so kurzer Zeit amerikanisches Englisch spricht. Ich würde nie wissen, dass sie nicht in den USA aufgewachsen ist und dort Englisch gelernt hat.

[@4alltheworld]

I was in Cologne and Frankfurt two weeks ago. I Love Germany, Germans are wonderful people!!! I would like to hear more about the Dual Citizenship between Germany and USA. The biggest culture shock for me was that most Germans speak four languages while Americans speak one language with four different pronunciations. As far as Feli description of Americans change of plans. I had constant change of plans and delays trying to use the German train system. hehehehe

[@ogurenedebaki2044]

There are countless Germans who know nothing in addition to German

[@sherion80]

Actually the majority of Germans speak just their language. In worst cases only some German dialect, other Germans don't understand

[@CaptainPicardy]

Ich freue mich, dass ihr die Podcasts auf KZbin bietet.

[@carriebrown6198]

Feli hat ein anderes Accent von Cari und Manuel. It is good to hear different accents as a German language learner. Vielen Dank!

[@rotebeete7453]

Dialekt, nicht Akzent. Akzent: muttersprachliche Einfärbung in einer Fremdsprache, die man spricht. Dialekt: Mundart je nach Region in der Muttersprache.

[@eliasshakkour2904]

@@rotebeete7453Deine “Korrektur” ist unangebracht. Wie Du ja selber schreibst, können Muttersprachler durchaus unterschiedliche Akzente haben. Ich sehe keinen Grund, davon auszugehen, dass etwas anderes gemeint war.

[@volodymyrstepanov7068]

@@eliasshakkour2904Ja, ich stimme zu. Sie haben alle Hochdeutsch gesprochen

[@SIC647]

​@eliasshakkour2904 Lol. You answer like this, while having just watched a podcast where they mention the German penchant for offering advice and correction on anything. The commenter was right. And it matters because dialect and accent is two very different things.

[@eliasshakkour2904]

@@SIC647 I’m not German, so joke’s on you lol. I know they’re different things. Native speakers can have different accents and different dialects. The original comment was fine and there was nothing to correct.

[@robineid]

Guys! Your Podcast is insane!!!! I don't understand German yet I totally enjoy/love your show! And I've been listening for almost 6 months on Spotify, you even crack me up at some points with some of jokes I don't understand !!! I just discovered the youtube channel! Makes more sense with the English captions now😂. Thank you for the great vibes! Prost und Lieben aus Bayrut ❤️

[@raya861]

Felis Deutsch finde ich super deutlich und schön. Danke für die Folge!

[@rabarbar8972]

Es ist sehr interessant Podcast. 😀 Danke sehe für diese 31 Minuten. Ich habe viel gelernt.

[@irenejaeger]

vielen Dank! Das war sehr interessant zu hören

[@dkim2011]

Thanks for the German documentary recommendations and the delightful chat overall! I only discovered Feli *after* watching two Easy German episodes that canvassed German opinions/impressions of America and Americans. Feli's balanced and astute observations helped me recover from my initial shock over sogenannten German "directness." As an elderly American, all I can say is that I've never heard of standing others up as an American trait. (Neither have my kids -- I just asked them). It's incredibly rude and has never been my experience. But I must underscore the fact that there are so very many subcultures in America, far more than in Germany, making it quite difficult -- at least in some respects -- to generalize in the American case.

[@kenx8176]

Same here. I'm also an oldster and the idea of accepting three different invitations at the same time was a definite "kids these days" moment for me.

[@devenscience8894]

Really? I was born and raised in the US, and I've been surrounded by flakes my whole life, it seems, and I've lived in six states and countless cities and towns. The attitude of the Germans in this regard seem like a relief.

[@dkim2011]

@@devenscience8894 I've also had a wide range of experiences. One "proof" cited for American "fakeness" is our penchant for smiling. Odd that the Canadians smile as much as we do but Germans never call them phonies. And most of the Easy Languages people smile a LOT. Am I prepared to call them fake? No, while I understand the business model, it seems to me that many are also genuinely nice people and their manner *shouldn't* be off-putting. Quite the contrary. Another "proof" of American fakeness is our love of small talk. Again, the Canadians love it as much as well do, and for a similar host of reasons, yet don't seem to get called out by Germans for it. I had a German mother and half of my family is German. I can assure you that there are many ways of being a phony in any culture, not just in the ways identified by Germans. As for sincerity, another source of cultural misunderstanding stems from the German penchant for literalmindedness. To my mother, my stated intention was as solid as if I had signed a contract to ACT, whereas I was still in the active *consideration* phase. She never accused me of being fake, and instead explained that our occasional misunderstandings derived from different cultural notions of rules and expectations. I can assure you that cosmopolitan Germans, especially intelligent, fair-minded Germans who've spent some time in the States, are not nearly as harsh in their judgments of Americans as other Germans, and as you appear to be.

[@devenscience8894]

@@dkim2011 That's... odd. We don't appear to be having the same conversation. I never once used the word fake. I agree with you that the American friendliness is, on the whole, sincere. What I said was that I've had a lot of people in my life that were flakey, as in, about plans, and whether they're going to show up or not. As a generalization, I simply stated that if a people, say in this example, the Germans, where on the whole, better about showing up to plans once they were made, then I would like that. I'm a part of an organization that gets together once a month, and each month, despite promises, I don't know if 12 people are going to show up, or 200. Literally that much of a swing. It's hard to plan the right amount of food, snacks, things to do, etc., when you have no idea how many of those "going" are actually going to be there.

[@dkim2011]

@@devenscience8894 Sorry, I assumed "flakes" was a typo and that you were referring to "fakes." I don't doubt for a minute that Germans, members of an ethnostate with more uniform habits and expectations, are more reliable and punctual, especially when it comes to turning up for large events, as opposed to one-on-ones. And yet in my experience Americans do take RSVPs seriously and I'm quite disappointed that such has not been your experience...or Feli's.

[@maiko9454]

Yay!!!! I love Feli 🤗 Glad to see you!

[@spielpfan7067]

Ich bin Österreicher und wo ich in der USA war, war ich für 3 Wochen bei Verwandten. Mir hat das Land überhaupt nicht gefallen. Ich erledige gerne alles zu Fuß und lebe auch relativ umweltbewusst. Ein solches Leben ist in der USA unmöglich. Außerdem sehe ich auch sehr viele Nachteile was die Unterschicht und die politische Spaltung betrifft. Dafür habe ich aber für mehrere Monate in einem anderen Land gewohnt (auch als Austausch) und mich in das Land verliebt.

[@huskydogable]

I'm glad to hear you didn't like the US. Now we don't have to worry about you stepping into our country.

[@eliasshakkour2904]

Eine tolle Kollaboration!

[@kellymcbright5456]

Hoffentlich nicht :) Sag: Zusammenarbeit. "Kollaboration" ist im Deutschen negativ bewertet. Man sagt "Kollaborateur" zu Leuten, die im Zweiten Weltkrieg mit den Nazis gearbeitet haben. In Ländern, die Deutschland besetzt hatte. Die haben z.B. geholfen, Juden oder politische Gegner zu verhaften usw.

[@eliasshakkour2904]

@@kellymcbright5456 Ich glaub, im Kontext KZbin sagt man schon Kollaboration, oder vielleicht nur verkürzt Kollab.

[@CabinFever52]

Ich bin Amerikanerin und komme aus Ohio. Die Arbeit führte mich oft nach Cincinnati und Umgebung. Es ist eine wunderschöne Stadt und Gegend, aber ich war mehr als froh, alles hinter mir zu lassen und umzuziehen. Ich habe keinen Respekt vor der "wishy-washy" Art und Weise, wie Sie den Umgang von "Freunden" miteinander beschreiben. Es ist einfach nur respektlos und egozentrisch, Verpflichtungen nicht einzuhalten oder zu kündigen. Bitte entschuldigen Sie sich nicht für sie. Das ist nicht nett. Es ist nicht süß. Es ist einfach nur rücksichtslos. Das war nicht mein größtes Problem mit dem Staat, sondern all die krummen und bösartigen Leute dort und einfach ein Gefühl von Scheinheiligkeit. Aber----Feli, ist immer schön, dich zu sehen. p.s My brother has helped anyone and everyone move throughout his life in the states (re: 23:20) and we always turned it into a pizza party.

[@lefogliedautunno]

Ahah! Speravo proprio che prima o dopo vi incontraste, Grazie! Tutti molto simpatici.

[@sjorskomhtas1801]

Das war sehr schoen. Danke euch!

[@tanyajones9325]

Danke schön! Es was ein toller Podcast! ☺️🤍

[@DiegoDanner]

diese Guest hat mir total gefreut!

[@Lumpinee9]

Endlich, spricht Feli Deutsch 😅.

[@simonerobinson2712]

Ich wohne jetzt wieder seit 12 Jahren in den USA und will wieder nach Deutschland!

[@volodymyrstepanov7068]

Ich habe Feli erst durch Deutsches Geplapper / Flemming kennengelernt. Es ist super geil dass sie schon auch zum EG-Podcast eingeladen wurde

[@RoghayehEskandary-rd7bk]

Ich habe das Gespräch genossen. Vielen Dank.

[@monicadabney8471]

I'm sorry Feli and to others who come to America. Honesty is HIGHLY important and being prompt. Getting on with things and getting it done. Not all Americans are what you have described. However, it is harder to find. And have lived in Germany and in England. And in England you can find a lack of morals & honesty as well.

[@JennHolt]

Well, yes, there are of course, cultural differences between personalities, but Germans are really dependable, and they do really plan things well. I have had some of the experiences that they describe here, while I was living in Germany. I do find that I am more flexible than, for example, my German wife. But I have to say, CariFeli, Manuel, this thing with making three plans at once, that may be generational, because I would never do something like that. Maybe this is some thing that young people are now doing? 😮

[@SO-ym3zs]

In my experience, it's young Americans in particular who have almost no traditional conception of duty or honor, let alone punctuality and reliability. Traditional values like that have really faded fast among the cell phone generation. @@JennHolt

[@marytv2579]

Ein sehr tolles Video, das ich mit der großen Interesse gesehen habe. Und am Erste habe ich Podcast gehört. Danke, Manuel und Kari , für so viel Spaß,die ich mit Deutschlernen habe.🎉 Ihr habt einen tollen KZbin-Kanal zum Deutschlernen zum Spaß. Ich will gar nicht mehr zuschauen.

[@Unculturedcurrency]

Man Ich habe feli von Deutschland letzte Woche gefunden und jetzt finde ich mehr und mehr deutsche KZbin creators. Total cool

[@abdelrahmanzaitoun4402]

Sehr spannend 🎉

[@josepinard30]

Sehr interessant!

[@loxonin138]

It is very important which city you visit for your first journey to Germany because people whom you meet first in Germany typically make you decide if they are friendly or not. The best city is Cologne. The second choice would be somewhere in Franconia. They are relatively talkative like Dutch. If you go north, they are becoming like Nordic people who don't talk much. But this does not mean they are bad. Typically, most of us feel that talkative people just look friendly.

[@kathleenborsch1312]

Years ago I lived in Germany as an Army wife in Augsburg, in Bavaria. My five years of learning German, to being basically fluent, didn't help much trying to communicate with Bayrisch! Fortunately, the people were friendly and would switch to "textbook" German for me.

[@SIC647]

As a Dane I tend to find Schleswigers/Slesvigers friendly, but it is because we are much alike and understand each other's mannerisms well. But I know enough about Germans to now interpret directness, a blank or grumpy expression, or The Stare as indicative of any specific emotions. It is just default state. And just like with Danes, once you know people they are friendly and warm (though still consider it their duty to offer very direct advice on anything 🤭).

[@marcwallace]

Ich bin Amerikaner und habe mehrere Jahre in Frankfurt bei der Armee gelebt. Als ich dann zur Universität ging, war ich von der Art und Weise, wie sich junge Leute in Bezug auf Zuverlässigkeit verhielten, enttäuscht. Wir helfen Menschen immer beim Umzug. Mir gefällt auch die Klarheit der Deutschen in Bezug auf Gefühle, usw.

[@billeyler7041]

Thanks for this collaboration. I have enjoyed Feli's channel as long as I have enjoyed Easy German! I had to laugh toward the end of the interview, though. Feli said that people aren't usually checking in on what others are doing, looking for 'assumed infractions of what they don't like'. The "Karen" concept is alive and well here in the States, and is quite a cultural thing with a lot of repercussions. Before that, we had the "Gladys Kravits" concept of the neighborhood snoop, always peeking out the window to see what the others are doing (that's a reference to the 1960s TV show here, 'Bewitched.' And yes, I have always been quite surprised at her near perfect American-generalized accent! Thanks for this interview.

[@dkim2011]

The reason that Karens and Kens get mocked (their racism aside) is because such behavior is widely looked down upon in America. Same goes for Gladys Kravitz, whom I'm also old enough to remember.:) Obviously, the diversity of norms and behaviors in the US is immense, but on the whole, immigrants to America (especially those from more hierarchical societies) love the freedom to do as they like, dress as they like, etc without being judged, reprimanded, or condescended to.

[@FelifromGermany]

I've always felt like the Karen concept is more about people complaining to managers in customer service situations which is actually not quite as common in Germany.

[@m.m.2341]

@@FelifromGermany Nah, I feel like the Karen thing has really expanded to neighborhood feuds. :D

[@user-vw9rd4je6v]

Vielen Dank ❤

[@albertoaro2418]

Wow! Wie cool dieses Video :) Feli spricht ja sehr deutlich. Und über die deutsche Freundschaft ist das stimmt also ihr als Freunde nehmt echte Freundschaft, was ich viel schätze

[@FelifromGermany]

Ich hab mir extra Mühe gegeben, langsam und deutlich zu sprechen 😅

[@JannaBaibatyrova]

Was für eine super Podcast Folge! Ich bin immer überrascht wie freundlich und höflich Leute in America sind im Vergleich zu den Berliner*innen 🥰

[@m.m.2341]

Die Leute in Berlin sind ja sogar für deutsche Standards unfreundlich. Aber umgekehrt finde ich auch als Deutscher selbst die New Yorker, die als eher "rude" gelten in den USA sehr freundlich :D

[@adenikeadegoke4845]

Feli und Easy German. Ich bin schon aufgeregt. ❤

[@base7022]

Sehr schönes Gespräch! Wenn ich bedenke, dass ich vor 40 Jahre (im Alter von 13 Jahren) in den USA war, was das damals für eine andere Welt war. Zurück in Deutschland musste ich in der Schule, im Unterricht, den ganzen Tag von den USA erzählen. Danke für das Video! Grüße Klaus aus Düsseldorf

[@NaranjaPeal]

If you’re looking for the more colloquial term for not writing you back to say we’re not going to be there/not canceling plans we call it being “flaky” which you likely will have heard. Zum Beispiel: “I wouldn’t count on Maria, she’s super flaky.” We have all experienced it and most have done it. It really sucks. I think it’s becoming a bigger issue here than it used to be and I personally believe that it’s increasing the feeling of loneliness and separation we feel as a country. Anywho… thank you for the video! It was great to see both Easy German and Feli come together. I hope you can collaborate with her again!

[@BlackBirdOni]

Ich habe diese Sache mit den Umzugshilfen aus persönlicher Erfahrung überdacht. Früher habe ich immer gerne und oft geholfen, bis ich mir einmal einen kleinen Bruch im Knie eingeholt habe. Seit dem bin ich dafür es einer Fachfirma zu überlassen, als das Risiko einzugehen, dass sich jemand von meinen Freunden verletzt. 😅

[@lawrencelawsen6824]

You had me at "free refills" haha

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

Friendship goes much further in Germany. The move was just one example. If your car breaks down on the highway at three in the morning, your toddler needs to be looked after, you want to remodel a house, you have severe depression; Whenever you need help, a real friend will offer help and actually do it. That's why it's not easy to make friends here.

[@NenadTrajkovic]

Ich muss noch eine interessante Sache hinzufügen, aber als Serbe ... habe ich zehn Jahre lang in der Ölindustrie in Alberta, Kanada, gearbeitet und mich hat immer die Dehnbarkeit von Konzepten wie Ehrlichkeit, Genauigkeit, Loyalität gestört ... Jeder von irgendjemandem Teil Europas, sogar Inder und Mexikaner haben eine enge Beziehung zu diesen Begriffen und sind sogar ein wenig stolz und emotional gegenüber diesen Begriffen, während sich Nordamerikaner im Bruchteil einer Sekunde ändern können ... Und Arroganz vom Typ „erstes Amerika“. und dann alle anderen“ Ich liebe Feli

[@arnavthesceintist1149]

Now easy germans should be a guest on understanding train station 😂😂

[@nataliyapopovych5846]

Es war super interessant!

[@DigitalTiger101]

Was für eine Überraschung!

[@MissDuke2012]

Glad you’re no longer with him, Feli. He didn’t seem like a bad person but appeared to be a very unmotivated person from videos with him in them. You are extremely industrious and curious and exacting. (Exhibit A - you have a framed print behind you that says “GET IT DONE” - love that. That’s who you are!). Sorry for the heartache of course. That’s never fun, and especially since your time in America was largely based off that relationship. I know someone who matches the image and goals you project is out there for you - I’m sure there are many! Good luck 🍀

[@FelifromGermany]

That's not the boyfriend I was talking about 😅I talked about an ex that I was with when I first came to the US 7 years ago. I'm still very much with Ben and he's a very motivated an amazing person! :)

[@kathybolgatz-jp4nx]

I am an American and was appalled to hear about the lack of reliability/honesty that Feli spoke of. I agree with Cari that time is valuable and such behavior is disrespectful. That is not myself or my husband. I suspect several things are behind this: 1. I think it is definitely worse with the younger generation (we are in our early 60s). 2. Some regions are worse than others. I grew up in Louisville, not far from Cincinnati and moved to Boston. People in Louisville are definitely more friendly than in the Northeast and I found it harder to make friends when I moved here but the friends I have are more the friends you describe in Germany. I would not be friends with someone who didn’t respect my time and commitments. 3. Because we have a culture that is less direct, society as a whole does not exert the same pressure on rude behavior. The behavior is often just simply ignored and on the positive side there is more of a “free to be yourself” attitude. Finally, when Cari talked about offering to help others move and people not taking her up on it-I wonder if some of that has to do with the fact that Americans in general have more material wealth and are therefore (sadly) less reliant on each other. I often worry I am imposing on my friends to ask them to help even though I would not hesitate to help them.

[@GordanaIvetic1]

I studied in the USA and worked as an Au-Pair - I never ever experienced this behavior with any of my American friends/colleagues. I think it is just that she ran into some disrespectful people who exist all around the world. :)

[@conniew295]

It’s weird to hear this perception that people would invite you somewhere and not show up- I imagine a group of 20 some yr old acquaintances saying, “hey let’s meet at the club Saturday.” Yes they might dis you for a better party. 😂. And yes no one shows up to move you- unless they are true, established friends (or should be)

[@haraldputensen7955]

Danke!

[@EasyGerman]

Danke dir!

[@austin1664]

Welche Sprachniveau ist diese Folge ungefähr? B2??

[@jamesd9900]

That was a great episode because I also enjoy Feli's broadcasts as well. It's an interesting topic in that I've lived in several areas of the US and each of them was different in regard to courtesy, driving, etc. It's a huge country made up of people from all over the world so it's hard to really generalize in my opinion. Influences from Ireland, Italy and Latin America for example have created that friendly, small talk atmosphere in many areas, where I've found the opposite in the Northern part of the country. The cool thing here is that you can basically move to whichever part of the US fits your attitude and lifestyle. : ) Regarding Germany, I love it there and can't wait to go back in May for my 4th visit. It seems tempers are VERY short there, but I don't let it personally bother me as I go there understanding the cultural differences. It's always a fun topic either way, keep the great vids coming!

[@onurkarakose5751]

tolle concept let it rain

[@brendon2462]

As an American i found it funny how free refills are a culture shock. We usually will get one to go. Not sure about germanies casinos. But here in Nevadas casinos like reno or Vegas you get free cocktails and soda if you're playing.

[@allenalsop6032]

I was raised in the USA but still have family in Germany. I find that many of the German attitudes you describe are ones that I have. Perhaps the German brain is wired the same no matter where you live. There are some attitudes that I don't agree with as well but this is true for Feli also. Some would not consider me German because I was not raised in Germany and do not have German citizenship but I would argue that my genetics is a qualifying factor and I claim all of my different parts as mine.

[@wirti94]

It's kinda odd, I mean, es ist ein bisschen merkwürdig, Feli zu hören, wie sie auf Deutsch spricht. Dies klingt ja eben merkwürdiger, da sie aus Deutschland kommt, natürlich. Aber das KZbin Kanal was sie macht ist halt auf Englisch und tatsächlich habe ich sie immer gehört, wie sie Englisch spricht. Deswegen ist es aber super klasse, dass sie jetzt hier als Gast Deutsch spricht :D Sehr schön :)

[@FelifromGermany]

Hier noch ein paar weitere Videos, wo ich Deutsch spreche 😊kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmjXmmlqd9Zpqrc kzbin.info/www/bejne/naOWYmaIlshjkJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2PCk2WMhdaqZ8ksi=b7tYnrObugHGEgcc (viele unserer Podcastepisoden haben auch kurze, deutsche Segmente). Und hier ein paar Interviews auf deutsch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYKqhHyhjZ6Bjbcsi=N2Lz7qW5DpzqC94V www.deutschlandfunknova.de/beitrag/youtuberin-felicia-hofner-traeumt-davon-endlich-die-familie-wiederzusehen www.deutschlandfunknova.de/beitrag/lob-wie-wir-richtig-komplimente-machen www.deutschlandfunknova.de/beitrag/small-talk-wie-kommt-eine-deutsche-der-gespraechskultur-der-usa-klar

[@ECsz10]

Das Crossover, das niemand gefordert hat, aber das wir alle gebraucht haben.

[@donrumata_]

Ich bin überrascht, dass Feli überhaupt keinen bayerischen Akzent hat! Sie ist eine wunderbare positive Person, ich liebe ihren Kanal!

[@Karin_Aquatica]

Ich bin auch aus Bayern, Nähe München. Bei mir hört man ebenfalls keinen bayrischen Akzent, wenn ich weiß, dass mich Leute, die nicht aus Bayern sind, verstehen können sollen. Im privaten Bereich hört sich das ganz anders an.

[@karinland8533]

In München ist das Bayerische bei vielen nicht stark ausgeprägt

[@TS29er]

Als ich in München war, habe ich mich auch gewundert, wieso ich die meisten Leute problemlos verstanden und auch sehr selten einen Akzent rausgehört habe😂In den umliegenden Dörfern/Kleinstädten sah das wieder ganz anders aus, aber die gleiche Beobachtung kann man in vielen Großstädten machen.

[@TheAC4M]

In America the saying is to know your true friends ask them to help you move. Some people are just self asborbed in theirselves. It seems to me people that live in the country side are more helpful to each other vs. cities. Being prompt and respectful is how i was raised

[@ECsz10]

28:14 "Doch, ihrem Sinn für Ästhetik" Das ist ja typisch deutscher Humor. Sehr lustige Bemerkung :)

[@ricardoals]

Weiter mit Video dazu machen, bitte schön! :D

[@Tanglangfa]

People treat correcting people about rules very differently in the northern US vs southern US and especially big cities like New York vs small towns.

[@mallenge]

Ich werde so freude bin, wann ich kann alles hier verstehen! Bisher... nicht so viel, leider. (Satz schreibt ohne Ubersetzung hilfe...)

[@antje8303]

Ich lebe seit 13 Jahren in Frankreich und genau das, was Feli über Absprachen/Termine etc sagt und was sie an Deutschland vermisst, vermisse ich auch. Ich muss mich nach 4 Wochen Deutschland im Sommer echt immer umgewöhnen, und das nicht zum Positiven :(

[@wirehyperspace]

Didn't understand a work but nice to hear

[@elizabethhowe7670]

Americans who now live in Germany probably don't realize you actually will show up to help if they are not familiar with German culture, why they would choose to hire help. My heritage is German so if you aren't there 15 minutes early you are late. If you commit you DO what you committed to.

[@frankb1]

Feli is cool!

[@jessejinkins8390]

Willkommen auf den USA Feli. Jetzt du musst Spanish lernen. Deine Englisch ist perfekt. Hallo Cari und Manuel. Ich benutze Easy German, Easy Spanish, Easy Portuguese, und Easy French. Ich habe gelebt en Deutschland und liebe Deutschland. Manuel hablas el Español muy bien. Es muy impresionante. Cari, your English is excellent.

[@tillneumann406]

Sorry, Jesse...willkommen IN den USA.

[@ginnysherosky6719]

Great video! Americans do have a loose attitude towards making/keeping casual plans. During conversation it's common to make little suggestions like, "we should get a coffee tomorrow or something." They're basically saying they want to see you again... but the where/when is usually not intended to be 'set in stone.' Unless an exact location, day, and time is clearly stated, repeated, and confirmed again before the conversation is over, then it's likely your American friend views the plans as a mere *possibility* rather than an appointment. In this case, it's not uncommon to text your friend the next day to say, "We still on for coffee later?" And if not, no offense is usually intended or taken. It's funny. Until now, I never viewed this classic American behavior as strange. But it is! No wonder the rest of the world finds us rude. LOL

[@OneUnknownHuman]

Tolles Video! Ich lebe seit +15 Jahren in Deutschland und mich nervt diese belehrende Haltung immer noch!

[@herrh4281]

Fan von beiden Channels. Tolles Viedeo