Surely if it's 1.2 sec slower than the Civic on much worse tyres its just as fast or faster in real terms (with equivalent tyres)
@ScottZ3703 жыл бұрын
Come on, bring it back with some PS4S's, I have a 290 and it's a different ball game. It's done well for the Hancooks
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
For the Hankooks it's very good. With Michelins or contisport 6's it would be a lot better.
@JP_RS63 жыл бұрын
PS4S'S made a huge difference for mine as well. Its a fantastic car for the money.
@JP_RS63 жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 your opinion :)
@kjph74383 жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 Ya I’m still undecided. But saw the formentor cupra the other day and thought it was beautiful . General consensus would have us wrong . Have you seen one on the road?
@cloudyharry122 жыл бұрын
@@kjph7438 I don't think the white paint does it any favours
@cloudyharry123 жыл бұрын
The hankooks are great road tyres, but they're not even in the UUHP tyre category, let alone a semi-slick. Would be great to see what this car could do on Cup 2s.
@TheEryk033 жыл бұрын
A lot faster.
@ZaDude19703 жыл бұрын
Exactly, should shave another 2 secs & move it up the leader board, likely right beside the Civic Type R FK8 Limited Edition (tested on Michelin Cup 2's): and that, with a 20 hp power disadvantage.
@einzeltier3 жыл бұрын
You know what's wrong with it? 1500kg. It's just insane how much weight hot hatches have put on over the last 25 years.
@freddi4273 жыл бұрын
its 150kg heavier than the predecessor :(
@Ontonaut3 жыл бұрын
@Poose McPoose lol
@minimumtrade3 жыл бұрын
Weight and standard machpherson struts.
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
@@freddi427 not that much.
@freddi4273 жыл бұрын
@@pokest225 okay it was a bit to much, i've got in mind that the cupra sc 280 weighs about 1350 kg, i just looked again am found that "auto motor und sport" scaled it at 1366 kg in their "supertest"
@robertocalvo9343 жыл бұрын
This laps with Sutcliffe are awesome content
@Davey-tw2cr3 жыл бұрын
Need to see more of Steve Sutcliffe. Gives me Old Top Gear vibs!
@notso1003 жыл бұрын
I don't really know the driver, but that is a proper lap, kudos to you sir
@timmy60123 жыл бұрын
Steve Sutcliffe and Chris Harris are; without doubt; the two best motoring journalists out there who test on track, period. You just know that they can get the very best time out of a car and give you a comprehensive review whilst doing so. Keep up the good work.👍🏼
@miguelvinayo69723 жыл бұрын
Henry cachtpole and powerart Guille Alfonsin are so good (in england and Spain 😆)
@bobjones60313 жыл бұрын
I'm so sad you went with the stability control faff trope. You can assign it as a quick function. That way you just swipe down from the top and tap once to switch off. Easy. As cars become every-more tech dependant, it's the automotive journalist's role to be up to speed with UI. Sadly in this case, that's not happened.
@cloudyharry123 жыл бұрын
Completely agree Bob. Volkswizard has been banging on about this for a while. There are so many shortcut options that the journalists haven't bothered to read up on.
@jo05dk3 жыл бұрын
If you expect every car journalist out there should read through the entire manual, and search the relevant forums, to be able to present a shortcut instead of the easiest found way to turn something off or on, i disagree with you. I'd much rather Steve uses his time to get the best laptime, as this is the focus of this video series.
@Ovenman9403 жыл бұрын
@@jo05dk For this series I agree but in general I think car journalists have a problem understanding the context of owning a car. They bemoan quirks like the indicators being in the wrong place but fail to appreciate that most people don't drive 5 cars a week and will simply adapt. They complain that manufacturers don't make cheap RWD coupes, then go out and buy a 2nd hand MX-5. Watching all the reviews for a car you own is enlightening, you immediately understand how much of it is quoted verbatim from the briefing and how much they value driving to the sticks for some nice photos over playing with the damn car.
@HesteBremse3 жыл бұрын
It is one functionality in one car and apparently not an obvious one. UI’s tend to become more complicated as functions grows but it does not necessarily make it anymore fun to drive. Touch screens in a car which covers too many aspects is a general terrible idea and dangerous, unless the car has semi or autonomous safety driving aides and that also has nothing to do with the fun and excitement of driving. If you want fairly all around reviews then watch Carwow. If you want someone who really have a deep insight in how cars behave then watch this.
@bobjones60313 жыл бұрын
@@HesteBremse It's one functionality in several cars - because the same applies to any VW Golf MK8 or Skoda Octavia. The Golf variants in particular have been reviewed several times by evo in print, online and in video, plus Auto Express for that matter, and also made the same mistake. Not acceptable.
@alexbrady88933 жыл бұрын
Blimey, at 1.05 you seem to be through the chicane still turning in the opposite direction, it’s a epic.
@TSDTRSDTHDTDDFG3 жыл бұрын
Could definitely see some nice modifications being done to this vehicle 👍🏽
@powersliding3 жыл бұрын
most underrated car journalist
@alexriera38363 жыл бұрын
This Leon dont have performance options available (tires bridgestone potenza race + light wheels and big brakes). Good lap.
@DasWauto3 жыл бұрын
This lap is a good argument for the use of a spec tire.
@boy6383 жыл бұрын
What a sleeper of an exterior especially in white. Looks like a Seat rental.
@fiestaria3 жыл бұрын
Shocked to see how close it is with the £72k megane which is "allegedly" made for the track..
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
Just a tyre swap for Michelin ps4s and probably it will match that laptime. Surprising.
@TroyHR1233 жыл бұрын
Has to be said different drivers, Manual vs auto and Steve looked like he was fighting the SEAT all the way round the lap. Looking back at the Trophy-R lap it looked far more enjoyable, near no fighting; it just went where it was pointed.
@minimumtrade3 жыл бұрын
Something looks off with the Meg time. Should be near the nose of the Fk8 LE.
@MOSSFEEN3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Leon ST ABT 400 with Pirelli P1s mighty job
@swanblake3 жыл бұрын
Curious how the updated i30 N does on this track
@mrlionrocks3 жыл бұрын
Me love EVO 🦁
@mattb43533 жыл бұрын
Nice driving as always Steve. As soon as you said sub menu to access the settings, I thought no thanks. No Manual, give me the Honda.
@jurajhrivnak46383 жыл бұрын
Steeve, isn't there a big ESC button in the centre console? :D I know it's easy to overlook, but I think that this is one thing that sets the CUPRA brand apart from other hot VAG models. Cheers
@cloudyharry122 жыл бұрын
In the euro spec cars there is, but they've removed it from all the UK models apart from the 310 estate version.
@mewantapoo3 жыл бұрын
OK I have a question you tested this car with the clubsport a d the golf r and you contradicted yourself between the two videos. You said on the other video that you could turn off all aids with one finger, but in this one you say that's not the case that you have to go through a sub menu (individual) which is right?
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
You can configure a shortcut to some functions, and place them easier to access. Just he didn't this time.
@mewantapoo3 жыл бұрын
@@pokest225 I know that but that's not my point.
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
@@mewantapoo was the other cupra a uk spec car? In other markets you can have a different steering wheel with push start button and cupra mode button. That leaves you with the old fashioned esp button in the center console in the place of the push start button.
@Dannyjones13 жыл бұрын
I genuinely think he could have got a quicker and tidy lap in. Steered too early into a couple of corners and had to correct steer which upset the balance at speed.
@giantrobot90003 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well
@miljanivanko23123 жыл бұрын
Steve the man !
@BarbecuedPossum3 жыл бұрын
Good lap!
@ilketama59823 жыл бұрын
fixed inside cam position much better than older always changing one
@andresguerin71623 жыл бұрын
How much cheaper than a gti clubsport is it?
@jose-Maki2 жыл бұрын
Aprrentley if you chose the brembos you get like 2 degrees of camber
@wojtekp32123 жыл бұрын
Try an STi, I wonder what it can do before they bring the new one.
@dandylion19873 жыл бұрын
Capable, nice enough, but dull. Kind of car you'd be happy to lease then get rid of
@ezb773 жыл бұрын
I feel this is the recipe of many sporty cars these days...
@sirjakethebrit3 жыл бұрын
That's the vag group moto isn't it!
@SornGeorge3 жыл бұрын
@@ezb77 not a sports car though, so it doesn’t have to be as engaging as let’s say a Cayman or a Supra. I think it’s a good hot hatch but not the best you can get
@ezb773 жыл бұрын
@@SornGeorge That's why I wrote sporty ;-) And the truth is that stuff like the Cayman and Supra could be so much more engaging still.
@josebustillo80473 жыл бұрын
I think it´s not only about the tyres. The cupra is a comfortable sport hatch and the others in front (super expensive Trophy r, Type r LE, Clubsport S) are more radical/track oriented hot hatchbacks.
@robinmarples51983 жыл бұрын
Very nice time. On road... À weapon
@Tsukuyomi8 Жыл бұрын
Is it reliable does anybody know?
@minimumtrade3 жыл бұрын
Quite a fast time for the Cupra with the fundamentally compromised standard macpherson strut setup. Favourable conditions for the Cupra? Megane & CTR should be 2s lap faster.
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
Not sure about favourable conditions. Cupra as seen in the video doesn't have brembos, and has inferior tires. And is heavier than those two cars.
@ChrisplayThrough642 жыл бұрын
Nope has multi link
@minimumtrade2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisplayThrough64 referring to the front axle which is macpherson. Where all the weight is on a FWD.
@sjr999r3 жыл бұрын
Looking rather slim there Steven 👍🏼
@robinmarples51982 жыл бұрын
Put it on cup2 's with the optional bigger brakes and lighter wheels... Should gain 1 or 2 seconds
@sixpotshot3 жыл бұрын
Nearly 40k for a Seat…wait a few years and buy used if you fancy one. It will save you a lot of dosh and hopefully with all known VW gremlins sorted out by the previous sufferer…
@stuco813 жыл бұрын
As someone that's quite interested in buying the previous gen cupra 300, they don't depreciate that badly!
@sixpotshot3 жыл бұрын
@@stuco81 Keep your hopes high! Having said that right now is not the mo to buy any cars in the UK at least: second hand ones prices are up and brand new come with quite a few deleted chips (read several options/features...) - crazy how a massive whole industry let this happened!
@melluzi3 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see Cupra AWD estate.
@scottallan66223 жыл бұрын
The drivers steering input into corners wouldn’t have help the time .
@Chris.Davies3 жыл бұрын
So; Cupra have finally managed to squeeze 300BHP out of a turbo 4-pot. This is something Subaru managed with the lovely little EJ20 in the WRX back in 1997. That is 24 years ago. Steve, I can guarantee that you'd get into my '97 Tommy kaira M20b (WRX-derived) and you'd never complain it wasn't powerful enough, or lively enough. You'd have no trouble turning traction control off, because there isn't any. The throttle pedal is connected to the throttle body by an actual cable (shock horror!) and so your right foot is the traction control system, and the computer literally can NOT say No! This thing would fun if it were: 1) Simpler 2) Lighter 3) More powerful, and 4) All-wheel drive Guess I'm getting an RS3 after all!
@sladefan46153 жыл бұрын
And needs to be Manual
@jareknowak87123 жыл бұрын
Alfa - still second place, after 4 years.
@uguraysakn31293 жыл бұрын
Power of the Quadrifogrilo Verde 💪💪💪
@hlad113 жыл бұрын
Nice Seat
@lewiscannon82133 жыл бұрын
Lowering springs & Ps4's and this Cupra will seriously rip.
@dair9193 жыл бұрын
Rear looks alot like the rear of the Megane!
@cayman98153 жыл бұрын
where is that engine noise ??
@konstantinosgkionakis99923 жыл бұрын
Try formentor cupra and tell us the time
@g00dfeeling3 жыл бұрын
I like Mégane even if it wasn't the quickest.
@yanaibabad16933 жыл бұрын
Setting aside the many variables that differentiate between the Cupra Leon 300 and the Civic Type R limited, your driving is horrible. You let the car slip too much by taking the turns at high speeds, exit the boundaries of the track (driving on grass) and you lose traction with the already bad traction tires the car originally comes with. That 1.2 second difference is purely driver skill.
@benlea193 жыл бұрын
It beat the GTi clubsport in the previous lap time you completed
@kjph74383 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that the MK8? Nothing in the cars really to be fair except tyres play a big part here in lap times
@benlea193 жыл бұрын
@@kjph7438 yes I think your correct actually
@alisonsmith38173 жыл бұрын
Not hot hatches no more far to big and heavy This cars looks like it doesn’t know if it’s a crossover or not
@ecad89033 жыл бұрын
Height 1,42m, low chassis. Doesn't look like a crossover to me. This video doesn't do it justice lookwise. But yeah it's quite heavy considering there's no 4wd.
@denvercolorado3 жыл бұрын
It is less Cupra than old model
@Helium_Hunter Жыл бұрын
why seat put hancooks on their press cars is the real question here lol
@EnitinEnitin5 ай бұрын
Why the fake 21:9?
@samuelfitzpatrick97393 жыл бұрын
This is a golf
@XxSaM19943 жыл бұрын
old model looks way nicer, why did they get rid of the amazing angular lines. Also no 3 door , won't be trading mine in any time soon....
@AdamBuckley19643 жыл бұрын
Looked like you were having fun but the car itself looks like a KFC night cruiser....
@gregmayled3 жыл бұрын
Someone mod Bedford Autodrome onto Assetto Corsa please!
@dannb0dge3 жыл бұрын
"296bhp" Yeah that's the paper figure to keep VW happy. I bet it's identical power to the R.
@lewiscannon82133 жыл бұрын
Vw claims Golf R is 320 but its 340. This Cupra probably is 296 same software from the 2014-17 MK7 golf R.
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
@@lewiscannon8213 new engine. New software. For sure over 300 hp.
@paulmichael38443 жыл бұрын
Considering the gti clubsport S is much better in my opinion and lighter it did well even though it looked very wobbly
@leon-lr1eh3 жыл бұрын
cupra is on small disc front brakes
@alexmaddox22553 жыл бұрын
Tyres letting it down through the corners.
@minimumtrade3 жыл бұрын
Tyres wouldnt have had to fight and protest so much through the corners were the Cupra fitted with double axis suspension like the CTR and Meg
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
@@minimumtrade yep, but the tires could be better. Hankooks...
@runnerbaba3 жыл бұрын
P4s or cup2 tyres and he is much faster
@easyerc22263 жыл бұрын
Much prefer the leon over that awful civic, cant escape from that thing looking awful and using rubber band tyres and 20" alloys 🙄
@billx42663 жыл бұрын
New hothatches like this one and the newest golf, are so ugly. I will do a lot longer now with my goodlookin MK7 3 doors gti clubsport!