How We Planned to go to Mars by 1982 - The early Manned Missions

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Part 2 is here on Isaac Arthurs channel: • Mars: From Science Fic...
Mars isn't the recent obsession that you might think if you listen to Elon Musk and NASA, in fact, NASA had solid plans to go by 1982 using plans drawn up by Werner Von Braun.
In this collaboration with Isaac Arthurs SFIA channel, we look at the Mars missions that were planned for the past and those which are proposed for the future.
To see Part 2 go to • Mars: From Science Fic...
This video is sponsored by brilliant.org/curiousdroid
Presented by
Paul Shillito
Written and Researched by
Paul Shillito
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Mark Wade www.astronautix.com
Chris P. Bacon/KS, Isaac Arthur SFIA
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[@bryliang]

It's so crazy how ambitious we used to be for space exploration. The Apollo project was almost 50 years ago, costing almost $144 billion in today's money. We could easily send a Mars mission with that kind of budget today. I really hope we can bring back the space race.

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Invite China, they have more American dollars than America!

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[@Patchuchan]

The funny thing about cutting back the space program is the war on drugs ended up being several times more expensive than going to Mars.

[@jonsno1122]

Patchuchan , yes. And instead of giving our society a boost like the space program did, the war on drugs has destroyed it.

[@dougmc666]

It's not too late, an international Mars mission would establish government control, preempting a Martian drug war carried on by commercial interests. Sales of Red Dust could take down our culture.

[@trapjaw86]

Would say the war on drugs is a bad thing meths got a shit load stronger

[@extinnocence]

@@dougmc666 a Martian drug cartel ran by Elon haha interplanetary smuggling Martian brewed meth

[@twistedyogert]

Or our defense spending.

[@3.2Carrera]

When I was at NASA, I asked Jack Lousma about this mission and he was excited and answered they were targeting 1984 from what I recall. I get the sense the Shuttle program kept them busy at least as test pilots and not as explorers.

[@arourednoe6737]

Vince L Capricorn One killed this program

[@longlakeshore]

When I was a young child in the 1960s my uncle who worked at Johnson Space Center was certain we'd be on Mars by the time I was in college in the early 80s. He was very disappointed when funding was cut for the Mars mission.

[@MrSirwolf2001]

In fairness, the space shuttle was always thought by NASA to be a test bed project looking toward a much better design. NASA thought of the space shuttle as an intermediate design. The idea was to use the information gathered from the space shuttle program, to design what would be the first real reusable shuttle that could carry large objects into space, so that future missions could have something readily at hand moving large space ship parts and crew into space. Due to politics and budget cuts, what we wound up with was the Ford Edsel station wagon of space vehicles though.

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@MrSirwolf2001 Yes, all that is too bad, but the shuttle has provided a test bed for long duration living in space. Needed for a mission to Mars and beyond. Some little 5 foot gnome, now running for congress in Az, spent a year there on the ISS and did not die; but his brain has become addled, apparently, cuz he thinks people will vote him in cuz he was a "space man"!! :D

[@rcknbob1]

@@ronschlorff7089 You got the wrong twin - the one who spent a year on the ISS was his brother. Makes me wonder what else you may be wrong about.

[@caffe-de-mancer8158]

Scott Manley, Isaac Arthur and now Curious Droid, is today Mars day or something?

[@TheKlabim]

undead anon missed scotts video. A bit of a sensory overkill with all these great creators releasing videos within hours

[@GarfThings]

Opportunity's 14th Birthday on Mars is today I think.

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Well, this trio are the best in the field. If' u're subscribed to one of them, chances are you're subscribed to the other two. Maybe also to Cody's lab ,Veritassium, Deep sky videos, Deep Astronomy and couple more :)

[@therealmacgyver5470]

it is lets go to war in the name of our god

[@metajarra]

Happy Mars Day

[@jgunther3398]

When I was a kid around the time of the Moon landing, the common popular thought was that man would land on Mars around 1984. The movie 2001 reflects popular thinking of the space timeline in those days.

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So glad that you both are collaborating! Two strengths make for a superb presentation!

[@jdog11231]

Man, Von Braun really was the genius of his time.

[@justinf4071]

He was also one of the highest ranking nazis of his time

[@quoriander]

He was "a" genius of his time. Einstein, was "the" genius of Von Braun's time.

[@GirtonOramsay]

@@quoriander For their respective and distinct fields of research, they can both be regarded as THE geniuses of their time. Everyone respects von Braun in a similar manner to Einstein.

[@lordgarion514]

@@justinf4071 His rank was more a function of his importance than his fervor. In fact, he was arrested for not being Nazi enough and spent 10 days in jail before high ranking officials intervened and got him out because he was so important to the rocket program. It took 2 to get him out. So I don't really care what his rank was, the absolute fact is he was a Nazi only because turning down the offer was quite detrimental to the one doing the refusing....... Or detrimental to their family members if they're too important to harm directly.

[@lordgarion514]

@@justinf4071 And about his rank. You can't boast about how great someone is in propaganda, and have them all dressed up in low ranking uniforms. They have to look the part of a great man in charge.

[@alexsiemers7898]

There was a novel I read called _Voyage_ by Stephen Baxter which goes over an alternate timeline of a Manned Mars mission in the 80s, and one thing that came to mind is that it would take so much effort to get a crew to Mars and back that it would actually be better from a science standpoint to have just sent the many robotic landers we have today. Not only that, but many of the missions to the outer solar system - from the Pioneers and Voyager to orbital spacecraft like Cassini and Juno - either wouldn't have happened or been decades more into the future than they are today.

[@froschreiniger2639]

the biggest challenge of space exploration is funding, if we really wanted to there would already be a small colony on mars by now.

[@gunner678]

It shouldn't be. Money shouldn't be an issue at all with things like this. They should watch more Star Trek.

[@MyKharli]

then they be dead. No amount of funding can shield you from years of unprotected space and the effects of prolonged low gravity with no medical back ups no atmosphere no water and the dust will kill you . Otherwise the Sahara desert would be thriving with people putting sand into 3d printers and getting all the food and water and shelter they need. And getting a rocket to land and take off on another planet after at least a couple years of micrometeorites and just, you know, rockets are usually launched with thousands of people monitoring stuff and being ready for a quick engineer call etc ( at least 20 min delay if your about to take off and need a quick check on something )otherwise why don't they just take off from anywhere here ..or is there a space port scam going on ! The Apollo astronauts were at their physical limits after only two weeks and needed carrying from the lander. Has anyone ever said its even possible to launch a very large space craft that has landed on dusty uneven surface with no water cooling or debris splash back effects ? How would such a craft ever know the landing site could be safe ? Robots would be so much more fun , could do loads more and when they die we feel aw well done little robot .

[@froschreiniger2639]

@@MyKharli all those obstacles can be overcome with money, radiation: use water to shield you, kepping yourself fit: work out or build a spinning ring shape spacecraft, sure its super complicated but if you have funding everythign is doable.

[@MyKharli]

@@froschreiniger2639 Still got physics to deal with , a water jacket thick enough to protect you during a flare would have so much mass to make the fuel requirements ridiculous . We probably have reached peak doability and if anything we are getting dumber. We haven't even had a self sufficient biosphere on earth and with no signs that I can find that its doable either. We cannot even stay in the Antarctic without being miserable and needing massive inputs constantly to survive at all .

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@@MyKharli If people were like you, the first plane would never have been built

[@AH-ym4ro]

well nasa had 4% of the us federal budget in the sixties now they have 0,46% so rip nasa

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

4% of the federal budget, not the GDP. :)

[@AH-ym4ro]

yeah my bad thanks for the correction =D

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You don't deserve to be able to quote statistics.

[@northroad1]

and I'm sure the HHS had a much larger share just as it does now 10:25 was pure ignorance

[@jshepard152]

When you waste the billions that NASA wasted on the space shuttle and you repeat this mistake for three decades, you don't deserve to be entrusted with 4% of the federal budget. Only when NASA starts spending its budget wisely should it receive more money.

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It was a lot of fun to do too :)

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Marshal Arnold very very much

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[@kefkaZZZ]

So instead of great advancements in space travel we had a bunch of wars which only strengthened communism in Asia. Awesome, good job. Recent wars in the Mideast have cost over 2.4 Trillion, or enough for every space mission we could dream of.

[@dougmc666]

Asia is largely Buddhist and does not have a strong military tradition, if they didn't have some encouragement to fight and stick up for themselves they'd be in the same position as South America where governments are manipulated before breakfast. Maybe instead of a Mars mission we could do the same for South America, screw with them until they rise up and form the Union of South America.

[@jshepard152]

There will be a lot more wars in the middle east since its full of fuckwits who can't govern themselves.

[@honkhonk8009]

Yeah. I honestly really like trump for this reason. most past presidents were too stupid to really stop wars and they thought they had a responsbility to help out other countries. Let the fucking middle east blow themselves up. There is litterally no reason to interefere unless its for oil which i kinda understand. Trump just avoided war with iran despite everyone forcing him to go to war. Although sometimes he does dumb stuff he atleast tried to make a space force to take advantage of the military massive budget. Sorry for the political tangent lmao.

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Those wars were justified and reduced the spread of communism. The middle east was justifued bc the us didnt want a bunch of warlord wackos controling 85% of the worlds oil. But i somewhat agree with you. The military gets trillions over 10 yrs but cant afford good teachers for our youth and while some of our citizens are starving. I hate war but sometimes its a necessity. Look at the bigger picture. Youll get it. Might not agree with it but youll get it and see why things happened the way they did.

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@Despiser Despised well said

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Yet we spent $700B to bail out the banks in 2008...

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That wasn't a waste of money, they still have it all, nice and safe.

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You mean general Motors?

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@bogen broom nowhere? Do you even know how many probes, rovers, probes and telescopes they are operating? How many are in development? Getting stuff into space is small part in comparison to... Well... That stuff and also managing it.

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Uhhh do you not understand economics? You do realize how vital banks are to the economy right? It would have meant no one could take out a mortgage, everyone would lose all saving and the economy would have crashed worse than the Great Depression. Try not to attack things you don’t understand ok

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@@MacTac141 economics= socialism for banks. Nice

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I was fortunate enough to meet von Braun when I was ten....my dad, who was fascinated with space travel, took me to a talk by von Braun in Wichita, and afterwards I met him and shook his hand. Still, after all these years, a remarkable memory. He talked about going to the moon, and amazingly, we did eleven years later.

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YOU SHOOK WERNHER VON BRAUNS HAND??!?!?!?!?!?!????

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Isaac Arthur is a KZbin hero. He's personally taught me so much and made me really think about where humanity is headed in the future. Hopefully this will give his channel more exposure.

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Collaboration is so tough but you've done a fantastic job. Thank you for your time.

[@andrewbailey7999]

The nuclear rockets proposed for those early Mars mission ideas wouldn't have been more powerful. They would, however, have been much more efficient than chemical rockets. High thrust isn't as important once you're already in space, but high efficiency is

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Did you learn that in school ?

[@ronschlorff7089]

Right, momentum, sustained thrust builds momentum, which keeps building momentum, and so on!! Physics 101!! :D

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Kerbal space program teaches 😂

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"Pennies for the hungry" The lady holding the sign does not strike me as hungry at all.

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may be shs a care giver for the hungry, but was corpulent to begin with.. or... why is this important ?

[@c.l.7525]

She ate the other three kids that was standing there with her.

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Don't everyone benefit form nasa

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Kallisti Babylon She evidently consumed surplus food that could have been given to the poor instead of wasting it only to deteriorate her healt while money spent on NASA have long lasting benefits to everyone.

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migkillerphantom it doesn't matter how much money and resources the developed world throws at failed countries in Africa or Asia. With every dollar given what isn't syphoned off by corruption is used to ensure more children are born with their hands out. There is no end to the people who will want something for nothing. And no answer for countries run by people of low iq.

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That "hungry" lady in the photo who ruined so many space nerds' dreams, ironically didn't look like she needed to eat 190 billion dollars worth of food

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As all your videos are, absolutely informative as well as entertaining. I have no idea where you get all the CGI from but even that is great. You should have 10 times more viewers! As usual, Bravo and now I will check out his channel.

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Perfect narration, just the right balance in pitch, tone and pace. As ever. Thanks so much for all your efforts, love every video on this channel :)

[@PatrickMcAsey]

I never fail to find out something amazing every time I watch this channel! I had no idea that NASA was so advanced with plans to visit Mars - or had any plans at all, in fact. What a shame it all is that we stopped at the Moon and never even went back there. But I remember vividly that in the 1970s people actually started losing interest in the Moon missions, and only woke up to them briefly with the accident to Apollo 13. Really sad.

[@t-bonestickyfingers1336]

Wrong. 11 was the first to land on the moon 12 was the next popularity wasn't waning yet you dipshit.

[@PatrickMcAsey]

@@t-bonestickyfingers1336 I don't know why you find it necessary to insult me. I remember that Apollo 12 was popular, but it wasn't anything like as popular as Apollo 11. During the Apollo 13 emergency it was widely commented at rhe time that people were rapidly losing interest in the Apollo landings - until there was an accident.

[@TheKlabim]

Love it! Special Isaac-day this is!

[@rudamachoo]

so good to see you guys collaborating, great work! thank you so much for all the hard work, we really value and enjoy it =)

[@ponezpyo]

I’m so hyped! Collabo of two of my favorite youtubers.

[@adityakumarchoudhary858]

Great video as usual. Very informative

[@tylerjohnson4825]

Hold up... 10:34 "Billion $ For Space, Pennies For The Hungry." i think the lady in the photograph here is eating everyone else's food... Food Vampire!

[@megatronVS]

Yeah, she's got the numbers inverted. Billions in her belly.

[@Narstak]

I was already following both channels, so I'm kind of happy.

[@Anonyminded]

Thank you for making these videos Paul, keep on doing great job! ;)

[@timothymclean]

Man, the Cold War inspired a lot of crazy ideas. But at least they averaged out as a good kind of crazy, which is more than you can say about many modern crazy ideas...

[@jur4x]

pfff, please. Hyperloop is nothing compared to... ready for it? Solar freakin' roadways!

[@timothymclean]

The hyperloop isn't completely batty. Solar roadways...good idea, if it wasn't for the math.

[@jur4x]

self filling water bottle :)

[@Thumbsupurbum]

A sucker born every minute!

[@timothymclean]

The self-filling water bottle is another one of those ideas which is good except for the math. There are a lot of those. Physics is mean like that.

[@FerrowTheFox]

Politics fucking up perfectly feasibly and awesome aerospace plans as usual! It's really a shame Von Brauns follow up projects never came to be. Space stations, shuttles, space tugs, nuclear rockets...We could've had it all. Also, great to see a collab between you two! I've been subscribed to both of you for a while and I'm happy to see other people discovering your respective channels through this :D

[@TucsonDude]

Not with the changing demographics who's main goal in life is sensuality and survival.

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Love these shows! You and Isaac Arthur are awesome! 👍

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Excellent video!

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Thumbs Up Twice !!!

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Never thought ide see u here lol love ur videos on see through engine head and my favorite i show everyone the tiny rotory

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Already am subscribed to both ^^

[@ChrisBrengel]

Great video! I've binge watched all of SFIA videos (it's taken a while), now I'm going to watch more Curious Droid videos!

[@anthonyhargis6855]

I found Issac's channel just about a week ago and his part of this discussion sent me here. Loved the presentation and I have subscribed. Looking forward to "catching up," not to mention future presentation. Great channel.

[@Antonluisre]

That's sad that they stopped.

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

So, short story of the planned mars missions: "Feasible but costs a truckload of cash."

[@zanzalurspace3161]

True, can't agree more. If only there was a guy out there that would lower the costs of spaceflight by making it reusable.... oh wait.

[@taxuenowoz4038]

If we can lose track of trillions of dollars then I’m sure we can lose a few billion here or there.

[@TheRagingStorm98]

Self-replicating whatnot Anything like this costs billions. Hell even Space X idea will cost them millions and millions before they reach their optimal reuseability costs.

[@schnitzelwalther1940]

Zanzalur's Odyssey There is not only musk. And rocketlab can shoot up payload cheaper than spaceX anyways.

[@ronschlorff7089]

I don't think money is really the "stopper", but politics and what you think is important for your re-election is. During the O'bummer years we spent over a trillion annually, domestically, on about 88 different welfare programs (from food stamps to child school lunches, free housing for the poor, and free medical care and schooling for illegal aliens, etc., etc.) in several government agencies. That same money, or even a fraction of it, could go a long way toward space research and exploration. But NASA was fed on "bread and water", and became moribund as a result, during those same 8 years!! We could not even fly up to our space station w/o hitching a ride!! And here we go again with O'Biden; so don't plan anything "spectacular", or even mundane, from us in the next 8 years,...................unless.................... ;D

[@zed1stwizard]

Good work! Thanks for working with Isaac Arthur.

[@Datan0de]

I love that you're collaborating with Isaac Arthur! I already subscribe to both of your channels, and you're both terrific.

[@eliasb8]

10:24 That woman doesn't look very hungry! LOL

[@kirkc9643]

I thought maybe the message was that 'hungry' people might start eating disabled kids if their food budget isn't increased

[@mabamabam]

She looks lke she is always hungry

[@arckocsog253]

Neither does Curious Droid:/

[@brianarbenz7206]

Bigots are that way, @@christopherbertoli7322

[@garethwalker2142]

“Elen musk” 😂😂

[@robertr.roberto-robertson4815]

Wat

[@shamicentertainment1262]

Ellen "musk" degenerates

[@rashfacekillah]

Haha I was wonder if I herd that 🤣🤣

[@_r-a-f_]

You get a rocket, you get a rocket, youuu get a rocket tooo...

[@Immashift]

As an SFIA weekly viewer, I enjoyed the music insertions from Isaac's videos. You're definitely right - we don't do anything small on that channel. :P

[@j________k]

Super happy to see this collaboration!

[@SkywayFishers]

I think you meant to say "With the collapse of the Soviet Union and the roof of the storage facility"

[@entity1566]

1:57 why is there a c on the top of the screen?

[@violet-kittychick]

You are the most polite, informal "while formal" and educated person I watch on KZbin and I love every single time you give me something to watch :)

[@WrenPhoenix]

Found your channel last week, I've been watching all of them I can find now. Great style, good topics, nice editing and overall a great job. I have a suggestion for a video on a UK jet, the Sea Vixen. I can't find much stuff about them on youtube and they seem to be pretty cool.

[@dgvinn]

another great upload , personally i cant wait to see a human on mars .

[@jbolo5378]

In 2012, fmr. House Speaker (R) Newt Gingrich wanted to colonize the moon, and hoped to have regular flights to mars by 2020. And they laughed him out of the house. Something to think about

[@Yusuke_Denton]

Politics.

[@mihailazar2487]

12:20 "The logistics of planning a mission ..." I SMELL BRILLIANT

[@NGCAnderopolis]

Awesome, love the collab between you two!

[@mleko23]

it always amaze me how people oppose spendings for space exploring, or asking where to get money for free health care, but are ok with military and war spendings...

[@theperfectpeanutbutterjell7553]

The US spends about a $Trillion every two years, yet there are still people who think space exploration is a waste of money.

[@geraldward5318]

Imagine the soviets and USA working together in that period after the 2nd world war and into the late 70's all that know how, technology and Money Mars would have been easy pickings! Such a pity politics and pettiness prevented such collaborations!

[@jackmarshall8381]

Gerald Ward to be honest I’m not sure it would have been better. A majority of the achievements of the USA and USSR with their space programs were due to their competition. Competition promotes development and the only reason NASA had the budgeting it did was to outspace the soviets.

[@CrossWindsPat]

This is all I ever think about... Just how much we could do if we just worked together. I guess America should just take over the whole world. Someone needs to run the show or some AI or something to unite us. Maybe a fake alien invasion will bring us all together lol I dont know... It seems so hopeless sometimes...

[@coreyfellows9420]

Yeah, but the MASSIVE sense of urgency wouldn't have been present which really hurried developments on both sides.... So all in all it probably wouldn't have been much different. I'd honestly argue that the advancements would have been even slower.

[@honkhonk8009]

Without politicis we wouldnt have Nasa being litterally pushed to innovate. Its going to be like with the X-33 Venture star, where the venture star was literally "too hard" for nasa to engineer, and without a real solid push, its now a billion dollar waste in tax payer money. Thank god for the politics because rn without said pressue no one wants to innovate anything.

[@g-mancollections5264]

I think you'd be surprised at how little of a difference that would've made. The competition they were part of was a huge reason for the giant leaps they made technologically. I know it feels all warm and fuzzy to think of everyone in harmony working together...but competition breeds excellence and too many minds working together can cause a lot of gridlock. I actually think their competition with one another made both of their space programs far better in the long run. We've been working together almost ever since the last apollo mission and really not much headway has been made in the way of long distance manned missions. Think about that as well.

[@sidoney101]

Nice surprise this colab. Love both channels.

[@lordkayx]

Love both you guys. You do such great work.

[@MistaTofMaine]

That lady at 10:30 sure as hell wasn't going hungry. Science Damn!

[@esheel826]

She keeps eating her kids food

[@megatronVS]

@@esheel826 "She keeps eating her kids" FTFY

[@MrLubcho13]

10:27 That woman does not look like she has been hungry.

[@soopahsoopah]

lol, right?

[@zanzalurspace3161]

Ironic.

[@TimSlee1]

*THICC*

[@eeronat]

I believe it if she claims she is hungry but it is not for lack of food. A regrettable human condition in general.

[@TimSlee1]

Her kids are hungry because she keeps eating all the bloody food in the house like a fat ass.

[@brentsrx7]

This is very comprehensive, Good Work!! Thank you for posting this.

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Your channel is one of my favorites. Much appreciated.

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[@hypersonicmonkeybrains3418]

Its probably a good job we didnt go in the 70s or 80s or 90s, we might have spent a fortune and failed and not gone back for an even longer time. At least now we have the technology and computer base to develop practically any technology we could possibly need for mars. All it takes now is money, the technology will be built.

[@jackvernian7779]

I wanted to say that it takes a precedent to interest people, but we have moon landings, and those were short lived. So I'm probably wrong.

[@dougmc666]

You don't need fast computers to get to Mars, you need lots of raw rocket power. The most common "technology" mentioned is 100 tons.

[@al.k1619]

Only you need to get to the moon first, lol.

[@joeclaridy]

We spent a fortune in gold and precious blood going into orbit and landing on the moon. But not all of our attempts at space travel ended up as planned with our boys returning home safely and yet we persevered until we reached our goal. Back then failure was part of the process and learning curve unlike today.

[@al.k1619]

Lol, they supposedly did go in the 70's. when you say " WE ", who are you? Do you work for NASA? You did nothing apart from watch a footage of them pretending to be on the moon. No more replies about the money. Reserve Bank can print money without being regulated. So I am certain if NASA went to the moon and they could go again, money is not the issue. They have never even left low earth orbit zone. Instead of just trusting company and media lies, do some research otherwise, you are still just a little kid who believes in santa clause.

[@davidgifford8112]

As ever a superb, accurate and well presented episode. Btw love the shirt.

[@gregbrockway4452]

I love it when my favorite channels do collaborations, it almost as good as The Travelling Willburys. Thanks Paul.

[@charlestaylor253]

The Traveling Dingleberries...

[@hemipemi]

lol, "speed limit 28,000km/h"

[@CanadianSpy980]

that lady at 10:30 is not hungry

[@antipoti]

This channel is a blessing.

[@LeafWasp]

This channel is brilliant!

[@-XSX-]

$100B ? How much it will cost E.Musk to take Tesla to Mars.

[@zanzalurspace3161]

90M BUT! Sending a Tesla to Mars is waaayy different than sending humans to Mars, and there are way more problems to worry about when sending humans to Mars then sending a car into space. Humans need food, water, power, radiation protection etc, while the Tesla Elon is sending isn't going to much up there rather than take live video and play music for like a week before the electronics start melting.

[@quoniam426]

The Tesla sent by Elon Musk won't even achieve Mars orbit, it will just get passed Mars and that's all. To obviously that "mission" is just a test for Space X to prove they can reach Mars, but to achieve Mars orbit, you need engine and fuel to slow down to be captured by mars and more fuel to land there and take off to get back to Earth, that is much more expansive.

[@gj9157]

Zanzalur's Odyssey Elon always finds a way.

[@martialme84]

Sidenote: The guy´s name is pronounced: "Verner phon brown". Not what you said there.

[@seriousstuff8887]

This is a great channel ._ looking forward to seeing more from you man .

[@ozdergekko]

Just cam here SFIA. I'll definitely watch more of your videos and probably subscribe. Interesting an well researched channel.

[@velequest]

@ 10:25 The irony of seeing an old photo of a protester with a sign stating: "BILLIONS FOR SPACE, PENNIES FOR THE HUNGRY" while at the same time the protester is obese AF is too much. I guess that's why you need to have the kid in the wheel chair to offset your obvious fails at protesting,

[@anonb4632]

Hero Stratus * Failures. You Americans need to relearn how to construct nouns.

[@velequest]

I take it you haven't learned about colloquialism usage. But whatev... That too was a colloquialism. Get fucked, may or may not be. :)

[@caav56]

@@JPIndustrie Where's the racism in that? When a protester poses themself as a hungry one, while being obviously obese, there's just something wrong with that. Like, if they have enough food to actually become obese, maybe, they aren't really hungry, after all?

[@snehalkapur]

Please collaborate with vsauce. You two would be amazing!

[@No-mr5oe]

Great work from both yourself and Isaac!

[@pericbowen4958]

Curious Droid and Isaac Arthur..now your working with power! Teamwork is the key! Good job guys! 👍👍👍👍👍😁

[@doncheko6866]

The only way we could achieve exploring our universe in a rapid manner is to start with human relations, we would never succeed i mean common were just one country.. we need all the countries to get together and then we could move forward.. united = money.. united is the only way were ever leaving this planet..

[@jeremiasrobinson]

Humans could have visited Mars years ago if we weren't spending trillions on destroying ourselves.

[@grantmacpherson7908]

the us military is responsible for a lot of inventions like the internet were using...

[@chrimony]

"Visiting" Mars is a giant waste of time. We should either go there with the goal of a permanent colony, or not go at all.

[@megatronVS]

@Coldern Ice Yes. I'm free because my brothers died fighting for Israel. What a joke.

[@SECONDQUEST]

Woohoo! Isaac Arthur is great! I had no idea you were going to collaborate! Good for you!

[@peachtrees27]

FUN! Already a subscriber to both channels. So cool to see you collaborate...

[@FPVREVIEWS]

tons of people would happily pay for a mars mission even if they did not get to go more tons of people would pay to see trump launched there on one way trip. there must be a way to crowd fund both!

[@dougmc666]

Worldwide a Trump launch could raise billions. There needs to be popular support for Mars or it can't be funded.

[@gast128]

No reason to go to Mars. Half of the USA population wouldn't believe it anyway.

[@realmenshoot3085]

gast128 All the more reason to get off this rock.

[@royTheLightning]

Curious Droid, I am quite new to your channel, about 15 video's in. I love your content! Keep it up ;)

[@Spaceventuresinvestors]

I am a proud sponsor of Curious Droid, it is always informative and to the point.