Cursive handwriting is dying. But some politicians refuse to accept it.

[@ukeleledotlove]

I will forever be cursed with a half cursive, half print hybrid penmanship.

[@OverLordthe1st]

OMG yes but I don't mind I gotten use to it and low key like it

[@kramdwar]

+Emma Cox I literally (like 2 seconds ago) just realized I write the same way

[@Nif3]

+Emma Cox Know that somewhere out there, I share your pain every day of my life.

[@mysteriousmango6467]

Ikr

[@Deadlyaztec27]

Same.

[@sinabonz8108]

Perhaps dying in the US but where I live everyone writes in cursive

[@bahamakazi]

Smdumpster it really sucks I love to write in cursive but no one can read it :/

[@sinabonz8108]

Cali Man oh my bad, let me correct that

[@sinabonz8108]

jake black I don’t think anything truly dies because their will always be a minority that still does things that are “obsolete” and practicality doesn’t have to be the reason for something to stay, some people would just like to write in cursive for the fun of it.

[@griotrott3790]

Observing the "best" handwriting today I think this is inferior to the best examples from that of the past BUT I regard the efforts to produce better stuff on boards and "showcards" cursive style by the best of todays exponents has developed and is to my mind superior. to that we did in the past. Just my opinion !

[@jocelyncooper1738]

Bahamakazi none of my classmates can read my handwriting so I have to write in print. I feel you.

[@megaagentj2248]

I personally find cursive just faster because you need to take less breaks.

[@Iris-ft3lr]

Yes it's so much faster! I always write cursive, it makes my handwriting neat

[@rubenaalexander5007]

Actually the reason my handwriting is so untidy is because I write quickly. It's "cursive" because well, I learned to write that way, but also because all my letters are joined together and I don't feel like lifting the pen off the paper.

[@jamiegreenberg8476]

for me cursive actually takes more time bc i have to remember how to write certain letters and it makes my garbage handwriting look even worse haha

[@jackielam195]

I write with a hybrid of regular and cursive, so I can write fast but people can also read it

[@adina4718]

hebrew "cursive": *blinks*

[@AelwynMr]

In Italy this often happens: pupils are taught cursive in elementary school. Then their cursive deteriorates and becomes illegible. By middle school, they switch to print. Then in high school as they need to take notes quickly and not lifting the pen is just more comfortable, they start joining letters in their own way and in fact develop a new cursive that is illegible to anybody but (sometimes) themselves. As a teacher.

[@ceve]

This is me

[@YellawayHD]

This is the same thing that happens in Ireland. We’re taught cursive, but eventually we just switch to whatever hybrid of cursive and print or solely cursive or solely print that works best for us.

[@aretorta]

Exactly the same in Portugal. Personally, I use type-font to distinguish formulas and technical thing amidst the text. It comes in handy when you're a chemist and people need to recognize formulas quickly amidst your notes.

[@phantommangagirl]

This is both of my parents.

[@LlamasAtMidnight]

Me

[@pierreboillot9296]

In France everybody writes in cursive, we're taught to write cursive at a young age so it's natural for almost everyone.

[@yurisantos8125]

in Brazil too, i believe that only in america they don't write like this we use cursive for everything and its kinda weird see a person that don't use it

[@meameam]

In Italy too. It sounds so strange when American people say they can't read cursive, let alone write it.

[@anyasolovey17]

Same in Russian speaking countries, all the homework we ever had was always written by us in cursive. The only time we were allowed to write in print was English class 😅 but cursive looks really great, very elegant, for both Cyrillic and Latin 😊

[@Bakura-wb6ds]

That’s a smart idea compared to the USA where they teach it to us after we learn to write print. (Like if the government is so concerned about the students writing in cursive then they should make us learn cursive at a young age)

[@sm_mikhailovna5126]

Here in the Philippines too

[@theorosef]

for some people, writing in cursive is quicker. personally, I write in non-cursive, but when I write quickly, some letters just tend to link together naturally.

[@kadencewong9864]

faeriedoodles same

[@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883]

why does the e just naturally flow into this o? I DONT KNOW IT JUST DOES

[@shelbiminer2318]

Most of the time when I write the word the the he link

[@agustinvenegas5238]

faeriedoodles same, but when that happens even I can't read my handwriting

[@jasonlee5953]

Same 😂 My words could literally be written in both

[@bejaromero2523]

I think cursive, once you master it, is way faster than print-your hand never leaves the page, you never have a disconnect, there is just a smooth flow from one word to the next

[@natalieandrew7573]

Blessed Rose exactly. I learnt cursive when I was in primary school when I lived in the UK, and I’m one of the only kids at my school (I’m in 10th grade) now.

[@fangirlfortheages5940]

I do print but my hand never leaves the page either way so it’s just messy

[@katya_fhs]

The problem is people don't need to do a lot of handwriting nowadays, so most will never master it. Most of the handwriting people do nowadays is to fill out forms (which most of the times require that you do them in print), write out notes, short messages, label stuff, but it's so minimal that it doesn't really matter which method is faster: print is almost always easier to read.

[@maxdax1966]

Love cursive writing.. Helped my dyslexia as I use the more creative side of my brain. Slows down my thinking and hand to eye coordination helps memorise the facts I'm writing. The process is promotes mindfulness as well as creative thinking. Im surprised the producer says there is little evidence in favour of cursive writing. A quick KZbin search though not particularly scientific brings up a huge amount of pro handwriting Ted talks etc.

[@ollierowan9767]

Natalie Andrew tbh I always found that for me, cursive takes longer because I prefer for it to look “”correct”” and so I spend a while on each letter. plus I make more spelling mistakes when doing cursive. I don’t know why.

[@samuelzachariev]

Europeans watching this: 👁👄👁 People who write in Cyrillic watching this: 👁👄👁

[@rifting1224]

Cyrillic cursives are just whole another level...

[@Sam67515]

I’m still shocked that America is like this .... I’m european

[@MrIse2]

Someone who thought cyrillic cursive was The Only Proper Way to write, and, after twenty-ish years of turning fansy curves into scribbled mess just to write things faster, realised that writing without it makes everything faster and readable: -_-

[@jackgreen9917]

​@Cookie Monster my favourite cyrillic cursive is шиншила решила вызвать машину

[@acasualcactus5878]

Лыжник зовут душа звание вообще вдвоём за дулами дул Фрейд.

[@SputonyPlays]

Middle school teacher says "Cursive is important if you want to do well in high school." Gets to high school. "You may write in print or cursive. Whatever you like." Me: -__-

[@elio_fay]

Sputony Same with our school but we can't use cursive for exams.

[@minecraftminertime]

Sometimes you can't even use cursive in school.

[@asrr62]

yeah haha!!!!!!! but to this day i find cursive illegible.

[@ambercolored3090]

who tf said that u needed to learn cursive if u wanted to be successful tf

[@xxjr8axx]

yea a lot of my teachers lied to me too.

[@randomcomment232]

this must be an American thing, everyone in the UK at least writes cursive

[@jeanmariegaillard545]

pupils are learning print writing in most of the key stages now.

[@laking09_57]

Most kids in primary write in print and in secondary there’s a large variation in the way ppl write

[@tiffanyzhang4544]

In second grade in Maryland, you had to write in print and only print

[@natasha-ut7si]

@@laking09_57 at my secondary about 3 quarters of students write in print and only about one quarter in cursive... I use cursive because I find it faster

[@mahalisyarifuddin]

Indonesian here, and children here are not taught to write in cursive anymore nowadays compared to my era.

[@tonipwneroni9846]

When I was in primary school, (private institution, 1990s and early 2000s, Australia) if we handed in our work without using cursive, it wasn't marked...... Now everyone always comments on how "fancy" my handwriting is. A Swedish exchange student once described it as "the penmanship of a elven princess" lol

[@ericstorm4613]

Show, show!

[@TheImpiroGirl]

This was the same thing for me in the early 2000s in Denmark, this seems pretty common

[@Cat-eq5jj]

I'm in 8th grade right now and in primary school all the teachers would go on about cursive being really important in high school and that we had to learn it. Now two years later I've never had to worry about it.

[@SpaceElf]

I learned to write exclusively in cursive at an Australian Catholic School. I write it perfectly. Most of the time I have to read it for people around my age, 22.

[@shabdulishinde3685]

Toni Pwneroni we had a similar rule too but i think it was because i studied in a convent school i think. I'm indian.

[@sm_mikhailovna5126]

"Cursive handwriting is dying" My school in the Philippines where everyone is writing only in cursive: 👁️👄👁️

[@bruh-zn8ju]

We're in online school bruh

[@sm_mikhailovna5126]

@@bruh-zn8ju before covid-19 bruh

[@user-yh7nf3qe8u]

Haitian school cursive only

[@winchesterchua3311]

I only wrote cursive in 2nd and 3rd grade cuz it was required. As I grew older I went back to print handwriting.

[@jinri_p1042]

you're probs in grade school then bc we definitely don't write in curvise once we're in junior high - college

[@northdestiny2575]

Cursive is dying in the US, other parts of the world still use it extensively. It doesn't actually make you write slower if you get used to it.

[@pinklady7184]

North Destiny cursive is taught to kids of all ages in Ireland and UK.

[@TRUMP-lw1rq]

I would hardly call the use “extensive”, especially among the current generation

[@stefanoscuotto3497]

Dylan Gill As an italian i can tell you that here in Italy it's unthinkable not knowing how to write cursive after first grade. In Europe we learn to write cursive and read both cursive and printed characters between preschool and first grade. I think that no one who's born after the 80s/90s has troubles typing. I don't recall any cases of children stressing learning how to write so i don't understand why you guys are losing a skill.

[@TRUMP-lw1rq]

Stefano Scuotto because it’s no longer a skill, it’s useless

[@VincenzoVaccarino]

it's not useless, there are several situations in which it could be useful: some people write faster that way, and when you have no devices at hand, it is useful to have a way to write down things you can use fast.

[@adub4ever]

We should be teaching the metric system, not cursive handwriting.

[@shuaizhao4538]

Can't agree more.

[@rideroundandstuff]

+adub4ever In Europe (and I guess in many other countries too) we just learn both ;-)

[@raimaelsmag4417]

I wouldn't appreciate you switching to metric after it took me so long to memorize that 1mile = 1,6km. All that effort spent for nothing?

[@emma99hg]

+adub4ever Both should be taught.

[@CookieMonsterNoVeggi]

+adub4ever But the great thing about the Metric system is that there isn't much to figure out. everything is base 10.

[@TheRealAThom]

I think cursive should be taught in art class instead of english. Typography is a wide art form, including calligraphy, hand lettering, type design, page layout, and much more.

[@thatone8432]

Huh, that’s actually a good idea

[@markovnikovaddition5226]

This is a great idea - I use cursive because I like it, can do it quickly, and I like the aesthetic result. I do wish they had an option to learn more about typography as an artform - we only got as much as "No Comic Sans allowed for typed assignments".

[@NatureShy]

To be honest, general graphic design classes should be taught as a gen ed common core subject. It’s sickening that so many people don’t understand basic fundamentals of design, and yet we go through extravagant amounts of energy to teach students higher levels of math-math that is utterly useless in life unless you are a mathematician or scientist. Unlike high levels of math, design is used in virtually every subject taught in schools. It is seen in every aspect of your everyday life, and not understanding basic fundamentals of design detracts from one’s ability to comprehend the world.

[@WolfieRAWKs]

To be fair, advanced algebra, trigonometry, and yes, even calculus, are just as present in our daily lives even if you (personally, but also the general population) don't recognize it at first glance. Physics is all about that kind of stuff, and we all move and are affected by our world, so math is rather important. Math also gives us a better understanding of our financial status. Frankly, I was extremely upset/disappointed that we weren't required to learn things related to saving money, doing taxes, or buying stocks. However, I do agree that a general education graphic design course would be an extremely beneficial course. I saw a resumé written entirely comic sans.

[@thackythac]

I could see that too. Art class seems reasonable for teaching cursive.

[@தமிழோன்]

I'm a 90s kid who studied in India. I'm not sure about now, but in the 90s, cursive writing was compulsory in the Indian schools (at least in Tamil Nadu). Because of that, I still write in cursive. When I wrote a farewell note to one of my ex-colleagues, my other officemates bantered me saying "oh look, a royal scroll written by Prince Mithun himself". 😂

[@patriciajrs46]

Good for you! Shrug off their jest and let not their banter deter your value.

[@Ryan197_]

Cursive is still compulsory, at least here in Delhi

[@TakiMitsuha2016]

​@@Ryan197_not only delhi all india

[@Ryan197_]

@@TakiMitsuha2016 yeah.

[@tamastasi428]

Literally every modern country except for the US: *uses cursive very frequently* Vox: Let's face it...cursive is dying.

[@tamastasi428]

Can somebody explain me btw how is writing in a more printed form faster than writing in cursive? Cursive is cursive because it's faster to write

[@joshyd7327]

its an american channel

[@ETBrooD]

@@tamastasi428 It's only faster if you're more used to it, otherwise there's no reason why printed couldn't be equally fast.

[@Ashwin-ksr]

@@CapitanNaufrago And also learn division to use Imperial system.

[@howdy01]

I live in Australia and they don’t use cursive. We use what’s called ‘at least readable’

[@saintsnation2971]

Cursive was the first handwriting. My teachers be like: "I can't read your cursive handwriting!" Alo my teachers: why aren't you writing in cursive???"

[@hewhoyeet4953]

In my place, its actually a nicer way to tell you that you have a bad writing

[@TheGuindo]

lol my 4th grade teacher required all of us to write all our assignments in cursive and then would complain that my cursive was too hard to read. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!

[@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr]

Ye Almost none but one teachers do that Even today

[@theragingplatypus4743]

No, cursive was not the first handwriting. Print came long before cursive. Cuneiform and other writing before that.

[@letyourselfrest8932]

yesss im in highschool now and none of my teachers can read my cursive, they think it looks pretty tho

[@barroncohen295]

I have dyslexia and by learning cursive it helped me with mixing up d and b because it made me think about what I wrote

[@Dimension2364]

In Germany it is totaly normal to learn cursive handwiting. I like it a lot. Not only because it helps me to write faster (especially while taking notes) but also because research shows it‘s positive effects on the brain. Cursive handwriting activates as many brain-regions as playing an instrument. It helps in developing complex thoughts and creative ideas.

[@paulinaruiz928]

It's more important to teach children to learn how to read cursive than to write cursive in my opinion

[@darlingthimblemoon4658]

Burg Skeletal, my children get sent home homework that asks for their spelling to be put into fancy letters... It's a pain because in the state we live in cursive isn't required. If they knew how to write in cursive they could read my handwriting, also. I can wrote in print but I have to really focus on it or my hand will want to swirl and loop the letters. It isn't stupid...there is a barrier between my children and I because some moron thought that it shouldn't be required anymore.

[@aikisu13]

Burg Skeletal phones and books and computers have their own way for writing that font that we read isn't natural to how it is easiest for us to write. Look that the Russian language they write one way but the text printed is another. It is the same for us cursive is how we are meant to write and if children were only taught to write that way It wouldn't be an issue

[@deathofgames694]

Exactly. No reason to get rid of it.

[@evelyngomez6560]

Paulina Ruiz then who will write the script to be able to read

[@deathofgames694]

Why are we letting common core tell us how to write? Cursive still exists all over the place. Youre just going to have people at a disadvantage if you dont teach them. This video probably sponsored by common core

[@Trufflechip]

I was originally taught print in 1st 2nd and 3rd grade then in 4th we spent the entire year learning how to write in cursive and now thanks to that my handwriting is a mess. It's like half cursive half print and even I can barely read it

[@rikumachida4811]

ArtisticAlbino Me too it's so stupid

[@baconwizard]

Over in England we start learning it in 2nd grade

[@sajeelk]

From 2nd grade to 5th grade, we got points off for not writing in cursive, so know I also have half cursive half print handwriting

[@flatplant]

It's actually not stupid lots of people will mix cursive and printing together it's really whatever is most efficient for you and as long as people can understand what the shapes you're making or supposed to mean it's not really a problem

[@majj6598]

I learnt cursive in year 3, I think people in the UK learnt cursive around year 2-4.

[@Reshirami]

I don't understand the problem with cursive. I live in France and in first grade we all learned to write in cursive and to read either in cursive or print, there was nothing difficult about it. Some people decide to write in print as they get older but everyone can read cursive handwriting. When foreigners can't read my cursive handwriting it feels like they're uneducated. (I know they aren't but it's a basic thing in my country.)

[@FalconFlyer75]

same story with me, grew up in Canada Learned how to print first, then in Elementary school they more or less force u to do cursive, and then around middle school u get to take your pick, me personally I prefer printing but I am able to read cursive.

[@MGustave]

Same in the U.K. If somebodu couldnt write in cursive, even of their handwriting was terrible, theyd probably be seen as very uneducated. It really is one of the very first things we learn. Only the Americans could decide that writing in print fashion was better.

[@EC2019]

Thing is, there's a particular French lettering (and numbering) handwriting style which is not used anywhere else. Texts written out in French look entirely different from the cursive style we expect here in Ireland, for example. The number 1 written in the French style looks like nothing we have ever been taught, and is genuinely illegible until someone teaches you what that shape is supposed to represent. Our French teacher, though not a native speaker, had adopted this script himself and familiarised us with it. Even our French textbooks had the postcard and letter-writing samples written out in French style cursive handwriting to add authenticity. That may be more why your foreign friends can't read it, rather than them being uneducated. They just didn't "speak your language" of handwriting. Present them with the cursive form they've been exposed to locally and they will be able to read it. (Of course if their native language does not use Roman letters, forget it).

[@SamB-54-1]

É Caoimhe I'm french and my american friends can read my cursive writing, so I'm not sure we have a different way of writing.

[@Ju-lj5ff]

I'm French too and I totally agree. Once I had a young American teacher (in her 20s) and she couldn't read our handwriting. I'm in college, we don't use cursive but everyone has its own particular handwriting with a base of cursive, some have round or sharp handwritings with some letters in print and some in cursive. I don't think it's very difficult to read but for some reason she had a really hard time.

[@Dan-kr9bm]

It's simply quicker and more comfortable than writing out every single letter individually. What are you on about with the only reasons being tradition and patriotism or whatever?

[@sofijasofija2867]

Plus, it's like learning about art history, makes you cultured

[@stephcurry9524]

How about we read things that are actually legible instead of just guessing

[@dddCL]

Fr

[@jacktraveller8290]

As a kid (in the UK), I was taught cursive and used it all through primary school. When I got to secondary school and use of cursive was no longer enforced I went through a period of printing in capitals. Now Im an adult my handwriting is a weird mix of printing and cursive that doesnt follow any pattern, some parts of sentences are joined up, some are just capitals. Sometimes I catch myself changing from cursive to printing mid word. Oops.

[@Jan96106]

+Jack Traveller According to handwriting experts, that's supposed to be a sign of intelligence. (I do the same.)

[@jacktraveller8290]

Hooray!

[@Saggg]

Imo handwriting experts are bullshit. When you thnk about it, the idea that handwriting says anything about your character is silly.

[@joking2052]

Same

[@Jan96106]

Everything you say and do says something about your character. And others notice even if we don't.

[@NatexWarrior]

"What are you talking about cursive is taught and required in my other country" Video literally only talking about the United States

[@PatheticTV]

Where I live in Hong Kong, no English is written in cursive. Never.

[@alexiacaceda1421]

I live in Peru and is normal to write in cursive....

[@sodium6841]

Um, are you sure? At least we still have to learn it and some of us still use it

Yeah but like so many American things, it talks about the US as if it was the whole world. ...It's kind of a common attitude though. Here in Argentina, people from Buenos Aires always talk about things from Buenos Aires like the whole country was like that. When you're at the top...

[@alexiacaceda1421]

@@sodium6841 I use it ......It's more comfortable

[@Thumbsupurbum]

Everyone should be taught how to write in wingdings instead.

[@dootthedooter]

Its such as hassle writing my essays in wingdings

[@Mr.FastZombie]

FINALLY SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE ON

[@patriciaredmon3216]

Flintstoned : do only dingbats use windings or are they for each and every kind of miscreant?

[@gimmeabreakplease3634]

I learned cursive in Elementary school. But as a teen I decided I wanted to improve my cursive handwriting to form a better signature. I ended up looking up cursive alphabets online and practicing them, the result of this was just a combination of all the methods, which too be honest looks really unique and somewhat informal. I'm really glad I did it to be honest, I have a style that's probably like no other.

[@Sunevey]

Handwriting style reveal?

[@robertog8008]

In Switzerland 🇨🇭 it’s different, we learn cursive as default and later if we want we can write in non cursive but most of us write in cursive here nowadays.

[@LetsRockDaHouse]

Roberto G same in Poland

[@anapereira9887]

Same in Portugal

[@naomycosta6230]

Same in Brazil. I had no idea that people in USA were taught print before cursive. In Brazil if you are going to write a text in a exam or an essay, it must necessarily be in cursive. It is how the kids learn how to write.

[@Tom19142]

Roberto G same in Italy

[@henryvillafanebulloso1566]

I'm going to say "Same in Colombia" even though a lot of Colombians have a horrible handwritting. From what I can recall, I was kind of taught how to write in cursive but it wasn't that force and it was like the default, I remember that later on I was taught how to write in non cursive and I still find it very difficult and tyring compare to the cursive handwritting.

[@ikzo5126]

If I'm lazy, I use cursive. if I feel like writing, I use the normal handwriting.

[@douglassiqueira2347]

DragonKnightz I'm the other way round.

[@queenoftacos9059]

DragonKnightz OMG SAMEEEEE

[@rickrose5377]

DragonKnightz The 'normal handwriting'? WTF are you talking about?

[@risingstars3478]

rick rose printing

[@rickrose5377]

Rising Star Y'think, RS? OMG, evidently, I'm a dinosaur.

[@amandasmith593]

In elementary school, my teachers told me that I had to learn cursive because it was faster and because it would be required in high school and in college. In my case, neither of these turned out to be true. I wrote slower when writing cursive because I couldn't legibly write in cursive unless I went at a snail's pace. Writing at a normal pace turned my script into an indecipherable series of loops. Once I got to high school, my teachers all required that essays be either typed or printed. They would not even accept cursive. The same was true in college.

[@igotpixelated7829]

Idk how it works for others but I write faster in cursive.

[@0Clewi0]

Probably for people that has bad handwritting (myself included) cursive is too impractical, personally I learned handwriting first and struggle a lot with calligrafy and writting speed until 6-7 grade where we learn printing. Now at university test are handwrited however you want and works are done on computers.

[@DrewArdner]

I personally, when handwriting anything, sort of blend a mixture of cursive techniques and print style together. I don't necessarily use cursive letters or things of the like, but rather, between certain letter combinations, I tend to blend them together, joining them with bridges or things like that, but most of the writing is just printed. I'm terribly slow at writing straight cursive, and this is just the style that developed from me learning how to write quickly and legibly for myself and to a lesser extent, others as well. It's not the prettiest writing, but it get's the job done. I have yet to run into a situation where I'm required to use cursive exclusively, unlike what I was taught would be the case throughout elementary.

[@ZachBobBob]

Looking back a lot of what I learned in primary (elementary) school was pretty much pure lies. Same in high school and college. Teachers telling me things would be a certain way when I was older that turned out to be completely not true.

[@jessesimpson2509]

Drew Ardner Same

[@Melissa0774]

I actually learned the Palmer method in third grade and that was in a New Jersey public school in 1995. And I'm glad I did because I like the extra loops on the letters. I developed a distinctive way of signing my name, where I make the loop on the M into a huge spiral and sometimes I add a huge spiral to the beginning letter of my last name too. I would've never discovered that if I'd been taught the boring D'nelian method, which is what they taught in the school I transferred to the next year. That second school also had a writing curriculum called "Handwriting Without Tears" and when I saw that I thought, "Give me a break! Who is crying when their learning to write? Are they serious?" My teacher even managed to fit in teaching us how to write calligraphy too, that year. I don't get why so many people think the Palmer method and teaching cursive in general is such a big deal. And I was struggling with an undiagnosed learning disability at the time, yet I still thought that. It's important for kids to learn cursive so that they can make a legal signature, that over time, will become distinctive and unique for each person.

[@MarvinClarence]

That’s great! The Palmer method is a derivative of Spencerian script, so we can see where these ‘extra loops’ came from. As for me, I picked up Spencerian script during my free time and I’ve been using it for many purposes ever since!

[@childrenofscarlet6164]

Great to see a Palmer method writer. I’m not from the USA but I’m intrigued from seeing a bunch of palmer method alphabets on the internet because i think they are so elegant looking. It’s pretty hard learning the pure arm movement that the manuals demand and now i basically just write by using a combination of fingers, wrist, and a bit of arm movement. I’ve followed a bunch of channels on this site about palmer method such as perfect biscuits who is like me, learned the method himself and made some tutorials on the movements. I also really love the look of spencerian script and i’m currently trying to learn it little by little with an oblique holder.

[@Melissa0774]

@@childrenofscarlet6164 I don't know what you're doing, but for the type of writing I was taught, you don't really need to do any special arm movements. It just involves adding some extra loops to the letters, which is not a big deal.

[@childrenofscarlet6164]

@@Melissa0774 idk, i have been learning from old manuals that are available online and some youtubers and they insist on doing the script primarily with your whole arm (no fingers or wrist, like writing it as if your arm is some sort of a machine the moves the pen). Nowadays i don’t do it anymore but back when i was first learning it felt like i was re-learning how to write and it made me really frustrated (the reason i just write with a combination of fingers and wrist most of the times these days).

[@Melissa0774]

@@childrenofscarlet6164 I never heard of the arm movement thing. I don't think it matters how you hold the pen or pencil or how you move. All that matters is that you can make legible writing that looks the way you want it to, in a way that feels comfortable. My mom used to tell me I'm holding the pencil the wrong way when I write because apparently, I don't pinch it between my thumb and pointer finger, I guess. But no one else ever told me that. Just do whatever works for you.

[@emanirenee]

I have written in cursive since middle school just because I have found it to be faster than print. My cursive may be trash but it sure is effective 😂

[@bigombrello]

Same!

[@glebsokolov8016]

Emani Gilbert In Russia we must learn cursive and after moving to US I still use cursive lol

[@CRYGamer7]

As an Austrian, I cant even imagine how live without such an important skill. How can you even write fast, without this technique. In Austria, we are only using cursive handwriting.

[@delfink4333]

CrytekFTW same in germany :)

[@ninaninoca9407]

My daughter is being taught only cursive at school, and it's painfully slow. Do you really think it's the fastest style, or have you just picked up speed by practicing that one the most?

[@lkm_6689]

Cursive slows me down lol

[@delfink4333]

Nina Mermaid i learned it since 12 years, so I think it is practice

[@robertstojs]

@@ninaninoca9407 Cursive was created with the intent of minimizing the time your pen is lifted from the paper while writing, it is faster than print by design, but it's important to learn slowly so your writing will be consistent and legible in the future. If your daughter is just starting with a worksheet it's important that she kicks bad habits like improper posture and grip early.

[@perlajurado8953]

I learned cursive when i was little..ever since then i write no other way ...i get compliments on how my handwriting is so small...intricate..and beautiful... I really wish more people wrote in cursive..but i dont want it to be enforced on kids...

[@smallkitten769]

Same here. It's easier for me and saves me a lot of time. When I write really fast cursive saves my ass. I hate writing in print it slows me down a lot.

[@redlock1353]

In my school writing cursive is mandatory on some subjects, but overall I don't have a problem with either. Just a few aesthetic weaknesses, but very readable. I have a really brilliant classmate who had to take three tests over because the teachers couldn't read his handwriting. It's interesting how the smartest people (doctors, engineers, lawyers) tend to have almost unreadable handwriting. Just an interesting thought.

[@rileywyjb2901]

lEo

[@teaartist6455]

Artists often have problems with handwriting. I can only assume it's because we're basically teaching ourselves to make lots of different lines on a regular basis while others kinda have fewer lines or sets of lines that they do over and over again and are thus more consistent since they are very used to making lines a certain way whereas with artists it tends to be all over the place.

[@pwnerofwrlds]

... Why... do you... keep... putting three... dots.............?

[@justinian-the-great]

You know, it's even weirder here in Serbia. As serbian language uses 2 writing systems (and it's the only language in the Western world to do so), Cyrillic and Latin, we have a strange paradox, where cursive Cyrillic is used often, but like NOBODY writes cursive Latin! In fact, I'm not even sure that most of the people know how to write cursive Latin, although of course we all know how to read it!

[@1000eau]

So, how do you do in everyday life ? Does it means everyone uses 2 alphabets ? Does it depends on regions (like some region using latin and the other cyrillic) or does it depends on context ?

[@zoltanlak4912]

@@1000eau Depends on regions, at least I saw more cyrillic signs, menus at restaurants, ads, etc. in middle and south Serbia, but on the north, there's less cyrillic and more latin, but legal documents, applications, new educational books, ads are almost always in cyrillic. I'm a minority here, so a use 3 alphabets and two languages in the everyday life, so it's a bit complicated.

[@boggybolt6782]

i write cursive not because i like it, i do, nor because all the girls like it, but because it's much faster. it's faster for me to just write a single loooong line connecting all of the letters than every single time pull the pen up when i need to draw a different letter, or a different part of a letter.

[@cindylei7393]

I feel that writing legible cursive takes way more time. I write in print a lot faster than in cursive. I don't have all too much trouble reading cursive but I still hate reading it. With cursive, I got to go slow if anyone wants to read it. Type on the other hand, is WHAM and done.

[@boggybolt6782]

it's the way you were taught. In my country(Croatia) cursive writing is HEAVILY encouraged, and you are forced to write it in all of your notebooks. That's why i write cursive faster. I just haven't trained that much writing normal letters.

[@cindylei7393]

Makes sense. Where I'm from, I was never even taught how to hold a pencil.

[@groszak1]

It's faster for me just to write single letters (similar to what you read right now) than both letters and linkings. Also it's nicer. In fact, I made a computer font called "Custom Font" which is monospaced and based on my handwriting.

[@groszak1]

In my school in Poland I don't write cursive and I didn't have any troubles regarding writing.

[@meems7519]

Woah! Y'all learned cursive writing at 3rd grade?? We just jumped right into it from like a kindergarten age where we just learned it together with non-cursives

[@jimmyohdez]

American schools focus heavily on typing skills these days. They do so so that you’re a good worker and make the government lots of tax money at your future desk job lol

[@berryyy__]

@@jimmyohdez that's unfortunate, we learnt cursive in kindergarten and typing skills eventually in school aswell lol

[@yournemesis192]

Never learned typing in school But that was before the internet

[@Ashwin-ksr]

@@jimmyohdez I wish my school taught me how to type, but I learnt typing from leaving unfunny comments under unfunny youtube videos and Reddit posts, but my classmates are suffering because it takes them 3mins to write a simple function while I just breeze through it.

[@zeljkarozman3084]

Me too, we constantly used cursive

[@callumtanner1128]

In England we just call this joined up handwriting and is just writing regularly but adding lines between letters, not all this loopy stuff

[@iridescent_skies]

I didn’t even need to be taught that, after using print for several years then being forced to use cursive for a year or two my handwriting became a sorta mixture of the two. Works though as it is legible and quick

[@purexbleach84]

Callum Tanner same in Australia as well

[@Tezcax]

Vox is retarded, it's just some lines between letters that americans apparently cannot learn.

[@shabina8527]

@@Tezcax No. In America you write cursive in a different way. Its not lines between letters. You write some letters completly different then in print.

[@imafabduck7265]

In my school we learned print then one day their like HEY UR ONLY ALLOWED TO DO JOINED a couple years later it turned into HEY UR ONLY ALLOWED TO DO CURSIVE

[@TheTimsx]

As a European, I cannot grasp why some people don't write in cursive. Cursive is much better and it is unique to every writer.

[@YAYGamingYourOwnSenpai]

I remember my teachers in elementary always saying "you will be using this for highschool and college!!!" They could never be more wrong...

[@FrodoTheDog777]

+Himtion I heard that many many times, then when I got to high school, all assignments had to be typed and printed. Only tests were hand-written. Same with University.

[@CookieMonsterNoVeggi]

+Himtion I think they just came from an era in which essays were actually hand written, so they were forecasting our experiences based upon theirs.

[@HarryBalzak]

+Himtion They say that about everything and it is almost always bullshit. Same with homework. It does nothing but they pretend like it is a skill we will need. No one clocks out of work and keeps working when they get home, unless they want to. In defense of cursive, I can write very beautifully when I want to now, but I cannot remember the last time I needed to. I do not regret learning though. It is a great skill and impresses people(mostly chicks).

[@destinylopez1677]

Yeah teachers were like, if you write in cursive, it's going in the trash.

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

+Harry Balzak Except teachers; they come home and mark yesterdays homework. Also a metric tonne of planning and other random paperwork.

[@rideroundandstuff]

Isn’t cursive faster? I write pretty much everything in print now that I don’t have to write much by hand anymore, but if I’d have to write an essay by hand again, I’d switch over to cursive.

[@Vox]

+Horst Wrabetz It's faster to write if you're well-practiced. But then it takes much longer to read.

[@rideroundandstuff]

+Vox Yeah of course you have to be well-practiced. Like with everything else. But it definitely doesn’t take longer to read. Why would teachers want their students to write cursive then? To waste more time reading their stuff? Don’t get me wrong, I really don’t mind if cursive is taught to children or not. But your arguments seem pretty biased and not entirely thought through ;-)

[@IbervilleMusic]

+Arnau Mas yeah, once I had learned how to write cursive, I never wrote straight print ever again unless specifically asked to (filling forms, mainly). A combination of the two systems is the most intelligible and fast way to write. I'm not saying they should absolutely enforce it on kids, but I certainly don't regret learning it.

[@Westfalll14]

I can type 70+ words per minute. If you can write that fast I'm impressed.

[@Fullchaos40]

+Horst Wrabetz Honesly cursive and print quickly devolve into a hybrid style. Some letters are quicker in print and others are quicker in cursive.

[@JuanVilorio]

Ten years from now we will start writing in emoji

[@richardcheese8095]

like the emoji movie

[@Silkendrum]

Writing in emoji? Isn't that called hieroglyphics? We are devolving!

[@thelawyerdoggo]

wingdings

[@MelissaPerez24]

GOOD LORD NO ITS SO GROSS

[@rev15clashroyale14]

They already do in Asia

[@nictheartist]

I - as a lefty - learned to write with my right hand when going to school in Germany, because it eliminated the issue of smudging when writing with a fountain pen, which, from maybe the second or third year in primary school, was the type of pen that everyone had to write with. Ballpoint pens were not allowed. When I went to high school in the US agreed around 16/17, I really enjoyed using a ballpoint pen, because I found the flow when writing a lot easier. After school, I didn't do much handwriting at all, hardly ever any cursive, for over 20 years. I recently completely relearned cursive handwriting, because I realized that I was completely incapable of writing legibly, and at reasonable speed, when writing by hand, and I've switched back to left-handed writing. It is indeed possible to write nicely with your left hand, just not with a fountain pen. It also takes practice, and if you think that your handwriting is terrible, just work on a style you like and practice. A lot.

[@thegreatchaos13]

You: I like the flow of ballpoint pens. Me: why am I getting hand cramps with my ballpoint pen? I am going to switch to fountain.

[@noeljrpantig4049]

Vox: Cursive writing is dying *when the teacher talks too fast while you're taking down notes* Me: No it isn't sweetie 👁👄👁

[@noeljrpantig4049]

@lucy_Sinda exactly

[@MayorVideo]

lets all just use shorthand then

[@sleeping4cat]

Vox was referring cursive writing in correct manner dying not incorrect way, LOL!

[@--------04]

@@sleeping4cat well, in the end the moral seem to be "isn't necessary teach the student how write cursive"

[@Janpre2001]

@@MayorVideo I learned shorthand as well as cursive and another form of shorthand called speed writing. I can write any of those faster than printing.

[@JustOneGuy]

Man, Vox is like better and improved BuzzFeed.

[@Dover939]

+Bob Bobson Very slightly. Still too much feminist bullshit.

[@Dover939]

***** Feminism is no longer about that. You're thinking of egalitarianism. Women have had more rights and have been treated better for years.

[@Dover939]

***** I don't think you realize that feminism will not happen in male driven countries for decades to come, it's ingrained in law and culture. Being kidnapped or forcefully married is not exclusive to women. Men are sexualized CONSTANTLY, have you ever read a comic book? Men are catcalled CONSTANTLY, have you ever gone outside? Who is society? Because society doesn't fucking exist. Having imaginary problems doesn't help anyone. You can't just take a problem that effects everyone and try to say that it's a one sided issue. That is not ignorance, that is stupidity at it's definition.

[@jovanj2717]

That's like saying "Man, this pile of crap is like better and improved diarrhea."

[@xioracky]

you make that sound like a bad thing

[@vomray7421]

Cursive is beautiful and more easy to write...for me

[@lapatata9837]

Vyom Productions samee

[@yidilau]

Same I'm used to it but if I want to I change to print. 😕

[@Faith-zv9xr]

it's way harder to read though

[@aikisu13]

I write a cross between print and cursive. I was never taught it but I loved it so by default I tried to learn on my own. In the end I write a mix and switch sometimes I try to write cursive in my notes so I do and then other times I have print or a mix of the two on the same paper.

[@ryantheready3066]

Faith Killick no really.

[@vojtastruhar8950]

I feel like everyone in Czech Republic writes cursive too. And I think it is taught as a primary option in schools, that is in like 1st grade. I personally use it because it is faster. Not necessarily prettier, but faster and still quite readable.

[@valarkov6455]

Vsaď boty. 🇨🇿

[@visibleconfusion9894]

my hand writing is already barely understandable, if i use cursive it will just look like some strange alien writing

[@Helperbot-2000]

Same, except i can only write cursive, i have forgotten how to write print

[@peterjansen7929]

@@Helperbot-2000 And I have almost forgotten how to write cursive, which I haven't used since 1980!

[@someonestolemyname]

@@Helperbot-2000 Me too, I can only write the letters but not whole words with it since I still need to use them for distinguishing variables from formulas. Ironically because of my very bad hand dexterity I cannot make those sharp turns on print, which means my cursive is more legible than my print.

[@Selena_2002]

Bad handwriting squad🤘

[@vedran3775]

Me🤟👊

[@hornybarnicle6700]

me🤪

[@iamjabby3688]

Me

[@taylor41]

wazzup

[@erinyes3943]

Sup

[@natsunoneko]

Interesting how this is taught later on in kids' education in the US. I am from Poland and here they just teach us to write cursive from the very beginning. Since it's first writing system we learn, there's no problem with it replacing something that was there before. Why not just do that? They will want you to write like that until 3rd, maybe 6th grade, around that time people start developing their own handwriting. Does anyone know the reason why in the US cursive isn't just taught from the start?

[@bipedleek241]

Dommie because they have one of the worst school systems in the world and only care about if you sing the pledge of allegiance or not

[@darbyv8160]

I formally learned it in 2nd grade at my school, but my mom and sister taught it to me when I was learning to wrote print so it was never really an issue for me.

[@robertjohnston7341]

Canadian schools also taught cursive right from the start back when I was a kid in the 80's, I still write primarily in cursive unless it's short notes to people who I know have trouble deciphering my handwriting.

[@ujtelomvan0414]

In Hungary they teach cursive to everybody in elementary too. Than you can mix it up and create your own hand writing around 5th grade.

[@Atomiks]

Dommie I think that the main reason Americans use print more often is because its a bit more "universal" of a design. I say that in quotes because everybody's print looks a bit different, but that fact that there is minimal variation makes it easier to see anybody's print and read it immediately.

[@peppernation9213]

I was born in USA in 1969 so of course I learned cursive. My son was born in 1994. I noticed he did not use cursive hardly at all. Son is now 27 yo and he still prints for the most part. Honestly I didn’t know what was happening or why he was doing it but now this video it is shedding light on the reason.

[@mudlark4099]

I had no idea this was now an issue. I write cursive as easily as any other writing. It is not hard to learn and its a fun way to write!

[@alfredschlicht2662]

Same, I find it faster to write in cursive, because the letters flow so much better. Very little inefficient hand movements.

[@minecraftminertime]

This was always an issue. It wasn't only an issue now. Although it's a fun way to write, it shouldn't be mandatory. Some people have more difficulty learning it than other people.

[@juanpablolazcano9562]

Well yes it is fun but is also harder to read if you don’t know how to write it with things like the difference between the g and the q

[@kyleighaasen4451]

It took me a whole year to write decent print

[@ladida9084]

exactly

[@carlosgeonzon7499]

When i was still in my college years, my professor told me this about cursive writing: "It is necessary for a teacher to write in cursive because writing in cursive is much faster than in writing in print. When you will be assigned to places where there is no electricity or means of printing, writing in cursive is the quickest way to do your paper works".

[@HeidiBird]

THIS!

[@HeartbeatCN]

This isn't even true. A lot of people find writing in cursive more difficult and slow.

[@Janpre2001]

AMEN!

[@Janpre2001]

@@HeartbeatCN Cursive writing is faster because you can write one word without taking your pen off the paper. Whereas printing you take your pen off the paper with each letter.

[@speedyspin]

@@HeartbeatCN that's because they don't know how to write cursive

[@catriona5268]

Writing cursive _is_ faster, which is important for taking exams, notes at work (if a computer isn't available), and strains the hand less. There are also studies which show that reading more difficult fonts, which would include cursive, signficantly helps information retention - in fact, I think this was also covered by Vox at some point? So, there are three good reasons to write in cursive, or at least partially, since few people write in a perfect cursive script. Also, from a purely aesthetic point of view, cursive looks far nicer than print. I don't know why people are so averse to it, honestly. It's a better way of writing - otherwise, it probably wouldn't have been invented...

[@UchihaGurl404]

I think the big issue is essentially what schools are supposed to be spending time on. It would seem to me, as someone who works in a tech field, that if you have to learn cursive OR typing, the school should choose typing in this day and age. (And this is 'Murica... our schools frequently don't have the time/funding to be able to teach TWO things). I'm with the folks that say cursive should be taught in an art class. That being said... I take my notes in cursive since it's quicker and prettier.

[@alfredschlicht2662]

Catriona of Doom Agreed, its very fast and efficient. And it's just a modified version anyway, it's not like they have to learn new symbols like kanji, or shorthand, or something. I don't get people sometimes.

[@oraletsnorter]

its fast, but some people just can't learn it or couldn't learn it when they were young

[@charlottedatwani9819]

But some people like me write print faster. I use cursive whenever writing brush pen calligraphy but never for exams

[@battleskorpionYT]

Catriona of Doom cursive is actually slower for me and hurts my hand much more, everyone is different

[@thallesbragalopesdearaujo9126]

Dying in the US. In Brazil, where I was born, live and teach Portuguese, everyone write in cursive, even the small children.

[@gralha_]

Is this some sort of american thing? I don't see why i would not use cursive

[@liv.vivanty]

right? Why is this even an issue? Europeans all right cursive and none cursive

[@blackninjamaw829]

News flash: not everybody is a European, this is talking about America.

[@gralha_]

***** The whole reason for cursive to exist is that it's faster and easier

[@gralha_]

***** But I did

[@Lewisking50]

I learned print first, then cursive and wrote with it for 4-5 years but switched back to print because my handwriting was so horrible, the teachers could barely read it. (I have very shaky hands)

[@ellielouise6247]

I write in cursive (my school taught it for 6 years and my mum did calligraphy growing up). I've always received a mixed response to it, some have called it neat and 'Victorian-like' others called it 'doctor's handwriting' and I've had to read my work to people as they've never been taught to read cursive. I do it out of formality, to be honest, just like how someone would learn to speak in a way to sound polite, I personally think it looks more professional. I've seen more people gush about beautiful cursive than they ever have normal print. I would hate for it to no longer be taught, it's such a lovely tradition.

[@wardarcher293]

But it isn't the job of schools to pass on traditions, if you think your child should learn it then teach them, it's just not the responsibility of schools

[@21whichiswhich]

I WRITE IN ALL CAPS.

[@fabreo4041]

21whichiswhich same with my classmates

[@fabreo4041]

Monkey4274 Gaming yeah on paper not all but some. One of them even types all caps in messenger his not angry or shouting he just types that way

[@ninaninoca9407]

My daughter WhatsApps me in all caps. She has to put the keyboard into all caps, otherwise it takes her too long to find the letters she needs. We're living in Brazil. Schools here make children follow a reading list of books specially published in all caps. I've never understood why they so strongly discourage normal reading.

[@english3082]

@@ninaninoca9407 I'm Brazilian and I don't know what you're talking about

[@achyuthansanal]

My former Geography teacher used to do that

[@dunexapa1016]

What has been lost is not just cursive handwriting but the beautiful penmanship that commonly existed on a wide scale basis. It is unquestionably with a sense of nostalgia that I look a specimens of handwriting from the earlier parts of the last century.

[@enviousleaf123]

how can you claim writing in cursive isn't practical? I was taught both in Europe and cursive was always much easier and faster to write in.

[@justyonormalfangirl1138]

That's just depending on the person's handwriting. I know lots of people who have ugly handwriting even in print, but there are some things as students, teachers, or just a person in general where we need to write something quickly (like a note, or a letter, or idk... notes for school). This is where typing isn't as effective for the certain individual. I like drawing when I take notes and connecting stuff with arrows, but at the same time I want it all to happen fluidly and quickly... so I use cursive.

[@linkin5961]

Saurabhav I'm from the U.S. and I think it's more of a now issue. When I was younger it was a requirement and taught in school. Same for my mom and dad. I love Their cursive writing. I prefer print but they both only write cursive.

[@Lorem_64]

Saurabhav cursive is horrible and slow, I never learnt it. In Europe we don't waste our time with it

[@abcdefgold]

You don't speak for all of Europe Lorem_64, plenty of European countries teach their children cursive. I learnt cursive, I live in Europe. Apparently the fastest handwriters write in a mix of cursive and print, joining only letters that make sense. In that case, it makes sense to learn to write in cursive.

[@ethanm2597]

If you never learned cursive, I'd be willing to hazard a guess as to why you write it slowly and horribly.

[@envious3409]

I write much faster in cursive

[@ZachBobBob]

I used to too. But it slowly faded out of existence for me

[@Cat-eq5jj]

Same

[@__nog642]

That's not a reason to teach it in schools though. Kids can be taught to write just as fast without cursive.

[@__nog642]

***** But there's no need to use it.

[@__nog642]

The Hispanic weeaboo of Latin America Well texting is slower since you can only use two fingers. I'm sure there are people who can write faster than you can text.

[@genderjusticeorganizer9126]

I would take the SAT analysis with a grain of salt. I write in cursive normally but use print for legibility on tests.

[@colorado1164]

yes but you can't take a grain of salt just because one person does something

[@anarudiaz]

Same actually, except in my school, they actually told me to write in print. The teacher told us it was for legibility. It was actually a pain in the ass to write a whole essay in print, took me forever...

[@nmda9578]

Yeah, I grew up in the 90s, but I remember them telling us to write in print for standardized tests so that it would be more legible.

[@veovis523]

I print-wrote on the SAT because printing is faster and I had to produce a lot of text in a given time limit. If I had more time, I would have done it in cursive, because my cursive is more legible than my print-writing, and it hurts my hand less. So basically, the video is assuming that 85% of the SAT-takers chose print-writing over cursive because of preference, but I'd wager a good number of them did so out of necessity.

[@lexus8018]

I love how Vox allways forgets that places outside the US exist.

[@girlsquad224]

Lol. True. This is just a very american problem.

[@linwill1720]

Or, it's just made for American audiences. Hence, they showed a map of the states, not the world's countries.

[@--------04]

@@linwill1720 yes, but they have said that in the end is useless teach at the students how to learn cursive, but if the rest of word use cursive is really this useless?

[@Bender1]

​@@--------04Yes, it's fairly useless. How many of those countries actually matter? I mean 17% of the world speaks English, what does it matter if another country is using cursive? Unless I speak that language then it means nothing to me.

[@itswilllthehuman]

Nobody: The people in the comments attacking Americans on how we don’t know cursive:

[@solanine6452]

More on how americacentric (americentric? americancentric?) this video is

[@ogfox9803]

@@solanine6452 yea a lot of Vox’s videos say the world but then just talk about the U.S

[@breadcrumbs3530]

@@ogfox9803 Literally nowhere in this video did Vox say cursive was dying out across "the world." Vox is an American political channel, it's their job to focus on American issues, why is everyone so mad about this

[@UmbaLumba11]

@@solanine6452 It’s almost like vox is American and uploading their content onto an American website that lots of Americans use

[@solanine6452]

@@UmbaLumba11 In a world of 100% Americans

[@finlaymcewan]

Here in the UK we call it 'joined up' and 'not joined up' lol. I write joined up because it saves time

[@mackrelburgess9087]

Same

[@mikkyd9989]

+Finlay McEwan in australia we call it running writing

[@finlaymcewan]

the more you know

[@i_curious]

+Mikky:D In India, its running handwriting! :)

[@austininflorida]

That's odd, because most people I know who write in print don't really space out the letters anyway. We all tend to write 'joined up' when writing fast, but we usually just use print letters.

[@jeremiemaranda1585]

I remember how I was never taught print, we just went straight to cursive

[@mcoofwastaken]

Cursive is dying in the US, but where I live, the old and the young write using cursive.

[@kirstennorsworthy3895]

I have dyslexia and like a lot of other dyslexics that were taken into classes for it were taught to write in cursive because it was easier for us. I really liked your video I just wish you would have addressed the benefits it has to children with dyslexia and not said there are "no major benefits"

[@Hellspooned2]

I wouldn't call that a major benefit though, for the simple reason that it's harder to read for the majority.

[@sirduckly2001]

Kirsten Norsworthy that’s not really a “major benefit” people with dyslexia are a minority and it is a huge waste of resources to teach cursive to normal kids. If cursive is easier for people with dyslexia then they should learn it, but there isn’t any reason for the rest of us to learn it

[@acer4252]

Sir Duckly So only certain people should be taught cursive? What happens when those kids go out into the real world and nobody can read thier handwriting? If we are going to teach cursive then we should teach it to everyone. Also writing cursive has benefits for all students. Take it from someone who wrote in print for most of their life then taught themself to use cursive in late highschool because of the benefits that it has. I find myself able to get ideas down much quicker during written exams and able to jot down notes during a written lecture much more effectively than I could when I used print. I've even had some of my collage professors comment that I have an advantage over the other students simply because of my writing style.

[@Hellspooned2]

I was taught cursive and I cant read it regardless. So i'm completely fine with it being taught to those who feel they need it. If efficiency at the cost of readability is your justification then learn stenography or shorthand instead. It's MUCH faster, with minimum speeds for certification at around 100 words per minute, or 200 words per minute minimum for those who use stenographs for recording legal proceedings. Experienced stenographers reach speeds faster than human speech. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthand

[@francoisbelangerboisclair]

It's interesting, but cursive also penalize peoples suffering from dyspraxia. So the best of both worlds is to teach how to write and read cursive, but offer a free choice for what you want to use when you learned the basic of it.

[@StevieDamnit]

It all depends on who's handwriting you're reading. I do genealogy as a hobby, and after looking through numerous census documents, along with marriage, birth, and death certificates, I HATE that many were written in cursive and at times are almost illegible to read.

[@Zinervawyrm]

I was taught cursive in second grade and had to use cursive exclusively by the end of second grade. Cursive is faster to write than print because the flowing of the pen on paper only stops after writing the whole word. Also, maybe its just me, but back in high school and college, before I typed essays, I would always hand write a rough draft, and asked someone else to double check grammatical and spelling errors; and for whatever reason, when I wrote things in cursive, I had less grammatical and spelling errors than when I wrote things in print.

[@Josh-wr5ib]

!! I think I'll start using cursive now...

[@lilydalbkce3249]

+Zinervawyrm I type a rough draft and have someone check for spelling and grammar. With computers, it's easy to make quick fixes without having to re-write the entire paper. I can type 50-60 words a minute. I cannot write that fast and my cursive is illegible, even for me to read.

[@WyczyPL]

+Zinervawyrm *FEWER

[@Josh-wr5ib]

Mar Kowalski I'm sure EVERYONE is very impressed by that.

[@WyczyPL]

Joshua What's-his-name And your point is...?

[@Edward-qx3ev]

I could never write in cursive anyway because my hand writing was that bad...

[@Sdjzuilu]

I'm Austrian and we were only taught to write in cursive, so it wasn't 'learning to write a second time' but that's just how we learned our letters. (It's not like that at all schools though). A lot of my former classmates don't write cursive anymore, but I still like to use it, as it's just way faster.

[@VictorBR45]

Same. My school only taught me how to write in cursive. I can write in print, but my handwriting is a mess. I prefer cursive since it's much easier for me.

[@Merels]

Same here in the Netherlands

[@_arpheus]

Cursive gang where you at? 👇

[@steakfries__]

My school doesn't teach cursive but I learned it anyways only so people didn't cheat off me

[@ASABcependant]

that s brutal

[@axrt2766]

Good idea. I'm going to learn cursive now.

[@jonathangatter4920]

Hahahhahahahaha

[@nudeerah]

That’s a power move

[@evanwatling3897]

Why do you really even care if people cheat off you? It’s their problem if they don’t know the material, so why make it harder on them?

[@ziji6261]

As a gen z who writes spencerian, I can't tell you how frustrating it is when someone can't read your writing.

[@thegreatchaos13]

Teachers: I can't read your writing. Me: HOW CAN YOU NOT READ IT? IT'S ONLY COPPERPLATE!

[@GiaIsNotHere]

As also a gen z it really is because when I was in 2nd grade my teacher taught my class how to do cursive and that was the only class in the entire school that taught cursive (I did stop using cursive and went back to print for a couple of years cuz no one besides my mother was able do decipher cursive)so when I write in cursive now my classmates will be all confused and ask me to read out loud to them what my papers says

[@elizabethgatsby3442]

In my opinion we should replace cursive with typing. At my primary school they taught cursive in third grade but then replaced it with typing which I'm grateful for. To this day I use those typing skills WAY more than cursive.

[@andreipatricksuciu6601]

The Seven Year Twitch welce to romania 0-12 grade all cursive (0-8 obligatory cursive)

[@darbyv8160]

I learned both cursive and typing when I was in elementary school 🤔

[@argeniside1015]

People actually remember stuff better by writing stuff down with pen or pencil versus typing, so if that's the goal then students should continue writing by hand

[@streamnctdreamwegoup2631]

Andrei Patrick Suciu hi im romanian to and i can further confirm that we have to always use cursive

[@dianapotra2583]

I’m Romanian as well, but after the fourth grade no one insisted I use cursive so now I write in this weird half-cursive type of font. 😂😂

[@NolaGal2601]

When kids think cursive writing is a foreign language, there's something wrong.

[@tahneethompson6012]

NolaGal2601 it's called 'change' it's good to see you noticed it

[@NolaGal2601]

Seeing English written in cursive and believing it to be a foreign language is "change"? That's laughable.

[@avzarathustra6164]

NolaGal2601 It actually is laughable, though.

[@carlalorch8650]

I had that happen; I was writing and some kids noticed. They got very excited and asked me what I was doing because it looked really cool.

[@avzarathustra6164]

Harry Howlett lol

[@agustinash7280]

Where I'm from, cursive is the only writing system we learn, and I love it, you can write a lot faster in cursive.

[@GaiaCarney]

Agustina SH - yes! It IS much faster to write in cursive, easier to get your thoughts out onto the paper 📝

[@10.krishitasaikia4]

Same here

[@andrasfarkas2198]

@mehappy y though?

[@instantinople3796]

@Incased_pol why?

[@Tornnnado]

of course you can write faster in cursive if you only learn how to write in cursive '-'

[@TurboKingCandy]

After elementary school, I never used cursive for anything except my signature. Though, in my last year of college, I noticed my writing had evolved to fit the pace of note taking by adopting some kind of primitive version of cursive. I guess there’s some utility for hand writing, but really its that skill which is dying out anyway.

[@tolemem]

I have not used cursive since elementary either. When asked to sign my name for my driver's license and passport, I just printed it. My print does not connect the letters, but to maintain speed it becomes extremely illegible.

[@ryane269]

Guess you can't sign your name then...

[@liamryan7239]

Ryan E Just use print. No one cares. I know cursive and use it but there’s nothing wrong with printing a signature.

[@robotslayer9690]

Liam Ryan It looks nice though

[@liamryan7239]

It does. But there’s no problem with printing.

[@robotslayer9690]

Liam Ryan I know

[@Mary-mj2px]

I print for everything I write except for my signature. The cursive style appeals to me. It’s too impractical for common writing but I love a good cursive signature.

[@yvonnew2688]

Hold up. Cursive is taught? Where I'm from, most of us have cursive handwritings yet none of us was taught that. I had no idea in some places people were taught cursive. It just came naturally to us.

[@LetsRockDaHouse]

Yvonne Wabai so when you learn to write you use print?

[@TheLaXandro]

We read print but wrote exclusively in cursive back in elementary school.

[@gregree2004]

Yvonne Wabai is this a joke

[@jiletsigarcia4658]

Execpt you were tought to write in cursive,they tought you to write cursive when they were teaching you to write

[@rosaliamiranda4808]

You mean that it was the primary writing system, it is here in my country we use print if we learn to do it by ourselves

[@moonlordis_theantagonist]

Vox: Cursive handwriting is dying and a politicians refuse to except it. Also Vox: *has a cursive logo* 👁👄👁

[@breadcrumbs3530]

Just give 'em a few years to change their logo

[@Perririri]

N👁‍🗨rmie

[@MatthewHollow]

that dose not make any sense vox is not that new its be founded around 2011 and your making them sound hypocritical.

[@moonlordis_theantagonist]

@@MatthewHollow I don’t see your point, and yes, I am making them sound hypocritical.

[@aadisahni]

Crusive HANDWRITING is dying, not the Cursive font

[@ericmoser8064]

As someone who never learned cursive, the text in this video was not easy to read

[@Janpre2001]

Because you were either never learned to write in cursive, you cannot identify many of the letters when they are in cursive.

[@jaaanai]

Cursive handwriting is dying in the US, in my country everyone writes in cursive. America is so back-to-front.

[@sabrinalayton2835]

You're not wrong about America being backwards, but I'm curious, why do you think that shifting the style of writing contributes to that?

[@josie3221]

I would agree that America is backwards, but it's not because people don't like to write in cursive. The style you write in is entirely arbitrary. We're backwards as a result of our lack of affordable medical care, disregard for the environment, and general close mindedness. These are not traits of ours alone.

[@itswilllthehuman]

why does everyone hate america lol.

[@8is]

@@itswilllthehuman Because humans love to hate

[@mahalisyarifuddin]

Indonesian here, and children here are not taught to write in cursive anymore nowadays compared to my era.

[@iLOVEpicklesBRO28]

I write in my diary in cursive bc most people cant read it anymore

[@sUjU91]

Me too

[@DylanDude]

Clever.

[@pinklady7184]

Really? Almost everybody in my family can read my cursive handwriting. I write confidential notes in Gregg shorthand.

[@bryanotero123]

If u write like a doctor i wont be able to understand ur writing

[@kylakyla9764]

I write like a doctor :') I'm an artist.

[@Long-do1vj]

Learn math and problem solving skills. NOPE Learn science and the mysteries of our world. NOPE Learn languages and critical thinking skills. NOPE Learn to be nice. NOPE Learn to make pretty scratches on paper. YES

[@mi-y]

I used to have cursive writing. But after seeing those western studytubers notes which are in print letters and overly aesthetic, I started writing in print letters to be minimal and aesthetic and now my friends, family and teachers scold me for writing like that since our boards will cut off marks if not in cursive handwriting (cuz it'll be considered good writing) I want to change my habit again ughh I'm working on it.

[@ArrKayCee]

Instead of learning cursive we should teach kids another language in 2-4th grade.

[@wtblack5]

Impossible, a 1 to 1 translation is easy to be taught in 1-2 years to 3rd graders, but not language...

[@ArrKayCee]

totally possible. start them early as they're learning English and it works just fine. Lots of other countries do that

[@shaqman5335]

morroco teaches their kids arabic and french

[@Lewisking50]

I started learning English from 3rd grade on, helped a lot even though it was obviously not the entire language.

[@imfromconnecticut4009]

I've been learning Spanish since Kindergarten.....

[@LadyeStagsleapStudio]

A shame. This video really doesn’t capture the whole story - the adoption of the pencil (over the ink pen), the speed and ergonomic benefits to cursive, and the tactile benefits for children, etc. :/

[@ZoraTheberge]

I think cursive is important. When I was in jr high, I went to a private school where everything was cursive. I think it helped my thoughts feel connected. And I certainly think everyone should be able to sign their name in the least.

[@PWingert1966]

THe conservative government here in Ontario has mandated that cursive writing be part of the curriculum and is also dismantelling core curriculum in favor of more basic skills in numbers and letters. They are removing science and environmental components fro the lesson plan.

[@alainischileno]

that vocal fry tho....eeeek

[@mushyw1234]

Was about to comment the same thing, it was borderline unbearable. Is this type of speech affected or does she really not know she sounds like that?

[@alainischileno]

+mushyw1234 it's involuntary but she definitely knows she sounds like that. studies show that it's annoying af but women who do it sound more "empowering" and "intellectual".

[@dogman10x]

+Alain Rochette wait... intellectual? don't you mean slow. its sounds to me like people who talk like this are just wasting time between words to think about the next word.

[@alainischileno]

+tigerapples Clearwater I agree, but studies.

[@stesit]

+Alain Rochette I think you're mistaken. I thought it was younger people see it as authoritative and intelligent and older people think it sounds annoying. edit: I can't seem to find a study, just this www.npr.org/2015/07/23/425608745/from-upspeak-to-vocal-fry-are-we-policing-young-womens-voices. The part is around 25 mins. The rest is describing what vocal fry is. Personally though, I have no problem with it and don't even notice it until someone points it out. I replayed the video after I read your comment.

[@mofuker199]

Here in Eastern Europe we use handwriting all the time because it's a faster way of writing.

[@Andrew-ri5vs]

In Eastern Europe print writing is different and takes so much more time than in English.

[@sicgc7658]

I swear this is just an American issue, writing in cursive is much quicker and easier.

[@__nog642]

It's not really quicker and it's not easier to learn.

[@sicgc7658]

Neil Gupta It is much quicker; maybe not easier to read, but easier to learn.

[@__nog642]

Yoda I am It's not much quicker. And how is it easier to learn?

[@sicgc7658]

Neil Gupta Its still quicker; and its easier to learn as you write to your style, without learning each individual letter which takes longer to write and thus longer to learn.

[@__nog642]

Yoda I am It's not quicker. If you learned cursive, then of course you will write faster in cursive than in print. But someone who learned to print can write just as fast in print as you can in cursive. You can have a writing style in print too. You have to learn each individual letter when learning cursive too.

[@xviicass]

been writing cursive since the 3rd grade! 18 now and i’m glad i’ve kept practicing it for years! very beautiful writing

[@mgglorym1571]

I wrote cursive since grade 2 and I'm 12 na

[@speedyspin]

@@mgglorym1571 mmmm is weird cuz everybody say "I wrote since 2nd grade".... I learn in 1st grade, actually this is one of the first things we learn at school. (read-write) and sounds very obvious

[@MRayner59]

Not mentioned in the piece is the fact that most people's cursive writing was/is atrociously sloppy and as a result, remarkably hard to decipher. It might be argued by some that it's faster to write by hand that way, but on the flip side it's much slower for other people to read it (think of the proverbially unintelligible doctor's note).

[@Ryansanders80]

I haven't used print in years, I always write in cursive

[@Lorem_64]

ryan sanders I've never used cursive in my life

[@Ryansanders80]

Lorem_64 give it a shot

[@jasonwan4224]

In exams at the end when the pressure is on, I actually write in full cursive and since I was taught by my grandmother how to 'properly' write cursive, because she said the ones that were taught at school were 'ugly' my cursive writing actually looks similar to a 78 year old woman... I actually find that writing in cursive is a lot more easier than in print where I focus on printing the letters perfectly (yes I am a perfectionist lol).

[@ZadenZane]

When I was at school in Britain we learned "joined-up handwriting" as it was called (nobody ever used the term "cursive") but in most areas of England, including where I grew up, we simply joined up the same stick letters we learned to write in, there were no special letter forms. Later on I met kids with weird handwriting styles, for example lowercase K looked like capital R with a long stalk coming out of the top. Also some of them wrote lowercase R in a 1930s kind of way. But I was never taught this, and I learned my letters in the 1970s! BTW: The weird style of writing was called "Marion Richardson," I was told.