Zoom F1 Audio Field Recorder

[@blueeffusion]

please don't stop making videos

[@curtisjudd]

Ok. 😀

[@TransplantHelper]

FUNNY story: My first experience with this recorder came at a wedding. The photographer put one on my as I was the officiant. I assumed it was a wireless microphone that would be switched on later via a sound board. I wore it for 30+ before the wedding not realizing I was actually being recorded. I took phone calls, told jokes and even went to the BATHROOM. I noticed after the wedding she said “let me grab your RECORDER” I immediately realized and was quite embarrassed. Fast forward after hearing the audio in the edited video later I immediately bought one and love it.

[@curtisjudd]

😅

[@NoahStephens]

Chris, your audio equipment reviews are among the best on the Interwebs. Great job

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Noah!

[@markwiemels]

Just a note; I have just reviewed the Zoom F1, and didn’t get any of the RF interference in my testing. Also, shockingly, the limiter did not add to the noise floor in my testing, my test got the same -60db noise floor (mostly likely room tone) with the limiter on and off. I’m extremely impressed with this little unit.

[@curtisjudd]

Ok, thanks for the details!

[@DanJonesHypnosis]

I've recently purchased a Zoom H5. I was looking for something that has very low self-noise. Most of what I record is me talking softly (I record guided meditations). I was reasonably happy with my Zoom H4n Pro which I upgraded to a while ago from my Zoom H2n (I was generally happy with the sound quality of the H2n for most uses, but had some issues with it for recording meditations and so would plug in a lapel mic to record them, which generally worked well. I upgraded to the H4n Pro because I also teach and demonstrate meditation and hypnosis in front of audiences and wanted to mic up myself and potentially a demonstration subject and have this audio recorded for videos etc, not something I could do with the H2n and the Pro has reduced noise over the original H4n). Now my KZbin channel is becoming more popular and companies are wanting to licence my meditations for apps etc I want to improve the quality further, so although everything I read said that the H5 had the same self-noise as the H4n Pro, it has the option to change mics, so I could use the shotgun mic to reduce pickup of other noises and hopefully have the focus on my voice, and maybe not have to be quite as close to the mic as I have to be when using the H4n Pro's XY mics. I saw a self-noise test (although I have watched so many videos etc before making my decision between the H5 or H6 and also possibly considering the Sony PCM- D100) that had the self noise about -40dB which was very high, but recordings I found online for what I would use it for seemed okay (the other thing I record is nature, often of quiet things, so I know apparently the Sony is best for this, but that doesn't have so much on board options, like XLR and is over twice the price and I couldn't find a clear self-noise comparison test). What I was thinking, and how I found this video, was that the F1 might have better sound, so buying and H5 and later an F1 where I can then use the same interchangeable mics, might be a good option, then I would have a lapel mic on something which could replace my H1 for when I give talks etc (where I don't want to be connected to a static recorder like with XLR mics into Zoom H4n Pro or H5), but also then perhaps a device that is easy to carry around for recording nature. In your video it seems the self-noise with this is below -60dB (unlike the test I saw for the H5 at about -40dB). I searched your channel to see if you have done the same test on the H5 with the same shotgun mic. Obviously if the F1 is essentially the same quality sound as the H5 and that maybe it was differences in testing (as one was done by you, the other by someone else) then it may not be worth getting the F1 when I have the H5, but if the F1 has something about it that makes it have lower self-noise (perhaps a change in how Zoom do things given it is a much more recent product) then it could be worth having the F1 for recording quiet nature sounds. I have really struggled to find comparisons or comparison charts etc giving this kind of information for different devices so that they can be compared. I read somewhere that the Sony PCM D100 is -127dB EIN, H4n Pro, H5 and H6 are -120 dB EIN, but I don't know what this difference between the two numbers means in practical terms. Also what I am more interested in is how loud is the self-noise when mics are compared at equal levels (I have heard that on the dial for the Sony, turning it to 4 gives the same level as a Zoom set to 7, so I would want a test of these devices set so that they are picking up the sound at the same level, which could mean, although I don't know, that when the Zoom reaches 10, the Sony may be at 7 and may have the same or lower noise, but still have room to turn up sensitivity for quieter noises, but I don't know what the noise would be like as the Sony passes 7 for example and whether it remains usable etc). So really the questions (following this long message) are, do you know whether the F1 and the H5 essentially sound the same with the same levels of self-noise and how does the F1/H5/H6 compare to the Sony PCM D100 for recording quiet things, not speech or towns or music etc, but bird song, rustling leaves, etc, and what advice would you give for how to find this kind of information out if you don't have access to the recorders to do your own tests and what, in real terms do the different numbers quoted as selling points mean (like is there a significantly noticeable difference between -127dB EIN and -120 dB EIN and how does (or does it?) this number relate to real-world use and what numbers or information should we be looking for. I just want the quietest recorder for nature and if I have to then I will save for getting the Sony in the future (which reviews etc seem to point to that being the best non-professional/under £600 recorder on the market for that kind of recording. Thank you for any help you can give...

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Dan, the F1, subjectively and to my ears, sounds similar to the H5 though I have never specifically compared them to each other in an intentional sort of way. I have not used the Sony recorder so I don't have any specific feedback on it. My subjective opinion is that the F1 and/or H5 can work nicely for recording ambient sound with the X/Y stereo microphone capsule. It isn't what the highest-end pros would use, but their setups would cost thousands of dollars more and would be less convenient to use.

[@DanJonesHypnosis]

Hi@@curtisjudd thank you, yes, I'm not at a level of affording thousands yet but want the best I can within my budget. I feel happy just having the H5 and in the future perhaps get the Sony specifically for capturing nature sounds if I feel I need it. For more the Zoom fulfills more things I need to do and with the modules and XLR inputs and better battery life than the H4n Pro it is probably the best option for now. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

[@GregStonham]

Nice work for putting the summary at the start, and not trying to string us along for ages to work the youtube algorithm.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Greg.

[@BasicFilmmaker]

OK. That is one beautiful light you're using in the car. Looks like sunlight? Do tell please.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks BFM! That is indeed a new light I’ve been working with over the last month. I’m very excited to tell everyone about it when it launches on March 30th (under embargo for now)!

[@BasicFilmmaker]

Awesome. Can't wait - it's really, really nice looking. Thanks!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Golden hour for the Golden boy!! Lol love both you guys channels! 👍

[@backroadsandeats5872]

Thanks for the video. Getting started in video and sound has been an issue. Your description of the Zoom F1 helps me decide on what product I need! That lighting in the car is cool as well

[@curtisjudd]

For those coming along later, this was lit with the Aputure F7, a 7 inch LED panel. Our review can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYmqpH6dpceJrck

[@spiderwayne]

Another great review. I contacted Zoom and asked if they would be selling the shock mount separately and when. I was told that in several weeks I should be able to get it directly from them... that was back at the beginning of March. As of today it's not available. I already own the Zoom H6 with the shotgun mic so I went with the F1 lavaliere version so I could use shotgun I already own from my H6 with the F1. I'm sure eventually the shock mount will be available and I'll be glad when it is. Note: I own both of the Zoom shot gun mics and I have to say I really like the way the F1 works with the Zoom SSH-6. The F1 has good control of the side mics.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for the insights, SpiderWayne!

[@kris2501100]

May I ask how does F1 does compare with H6 in recording quality? I am thinking of buying one. Thanks!

[@artjohnson01]

Thank you so much for the review on the zoom F1. This product makes so much sense when compared with the ridiculously expensive Lectrosonics PDR you recently reviewed. The Zoom F1 has great features and amazing quality at a price (not cheap) that is realistic for amateurs and aspiring pros.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Art.

[@filmismorefun]

Thanks to the mention in your vid about the H1n, I learned about the F1- which is EXACTLY what I needed. Almost mistakenly bought the H1n. I really appreciate the overview.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@GrandGeneralKukov]

Love that you put the summary right up front - very helpful!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@Ahsanz1995]

That was an incredible review. I'm sold on the F1-SP bundle, I'm getting into video work and was absolutely disappointed reading all the negative reviews on RODE videomic products nowadays. This is a clean sounding, excellent alternative that also records into it's own SD card as a backup. I can appreciate that alot.

[@curtisjudd]

👍 happy recording!

[@Sleepdroidstudios]

Yet another great video Curtis.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks SleepDroid Studios!

[@graysenlukas1603]

you all prolly dont care but does any of you know a way to get back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly forgot the login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

[@depiazdr]

Curtis, I've been a big fan of your since I started exploring audio/video recording a couple of years ago. I recently purchased the F1 for use with the SSH-1 (and other capsules). It serves as my shotgun mic for video recording with a Sony a6500. I have encountered 2 problems I didn't anticipate and I hope you can shed some light on those. First, it seems that the a5600 doesn't do well with the F1's line level headphone output. I really didn't predict that this would be a problem since Zoom sells a 3.5mm cable for the purpose of connecting a recorder to a camera and it is NOT an attenuation cable. Moreover, I have not seen you or any of the reviewers mention that this could be a problem. I purchased a 3.5mm 35dB attenuation cable and that did help, though I think perhaps it might work better with even more attenuation. Second, even when the 1st problem is addressed, there is a pronounced buzz on the camera recording that really makes the camera recording of the F1 output fairly unusable. Much to my disappointment, I will certainly have to record separate audio and synch it up in post for anything I try to record and publish. Moreover, I have been using this setup to do Zoom meetings and Skype calls. I can avoid problems with the synching up of audio and video if both the audio and video are transmitted over the same HDMI line from the camera. But with this problem, I'll have to have separate inputs into my computer for audio and video and will therefore have a synchronization problem. Perhaps that is a limitation of the camera. But again, I have not seen yourself or any other reviewers mention that as a potential issue. Usually, the reviewers focus on the quality and proximity of the microphone to the source. Noone ever says you can't get usable audio recorded to your camera without solving little known problems... What do you think???

[@curtisjudd]

From memory, I tested it with my Panasonic GH5 and did not experience a buzzing issue or a need for an attenuation cable. I wonder if it is an issue between the F1 and Sony? Any luck when you contact Sony and ZOOM support? Sorry I can’t test it here as I don’t have the necessary gear on hand.

[@FoundMyFitness]

No matter the equipment, if it's audio, I know I can Google Curtis Judd and get an immaculate review.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@RedlineRevenant]

Excellent review yet again! Always love the attention paid to lesser-known gear you show on your channel. I've always thought the form factor of the H1 was a little too difficult for my needs, but the F1 looks like a solid budget option for lavalier microphones.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks David!

[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

Great review! I've used both the F1 and the TASCAM DR10, and I prefer the F1 over the DR10 because: it's a little bigger, so the buttons are more solid and easier to manipulate; the screen is WAY easier to read; and the way the DR10 operates is not very intuitive, so I kept getting lost in terms of the current vs. most recent track. Also, for those of us who need reading glasses for pretty much everything, the F1 is far easier to read than the DR10. (People rarely have much to say about the UI design, but with more and more features getting jammed into these things, the UI is becoming increasingly important. Just going through a run-down of the buttons isn't sufficient IMHO. Rather, you need to actually go through some normal usage steps. The DR10 just confused the heck out of me for quite a while, but the F1 was much quicker to learn.)

[@curtisjudd]

Fair points, thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

**Note**: 1) I was recovering from the flu when I recorded this and my voice was still rather raw and affected by the illness. 2) In the majority of the review I used a lavalier. If you'd like to compare the sound here with another video for reference, be sure to listen to an episode where I used the same mic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5SaZYOpqNGWhc0

[@AANasseh]

Thank you! I like my Tascam DR 10L. It also has the safety track and it’s smaller. But if you want the microphones on it then Zoom is the way to go. It’s great to have do many options now. Just a couple years ago this space was sorely missing this type of run and gun recorder. :)

[@curtisjudd]

Same ballpark with a good lavalier (not the one included with the Tascam).

[@Krystianissimus]

Yeah. But TASCAM's DR-10L doesn't record stereo signal and it doesn't have stereo input jack.

[@JoseMlCamachoPiñar]

Excelente revision de un magnifico producto como el zoom f1. I used the zoom f1 for recording my sermons and the quality is superb. Thank you for your explanation, very detailed and well presented.

[@jantestowy123]

WoW amazing sound, lighting and video quality, great job, super clean pro work :)

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks jantestowy123!

[@GregStonham]

I've been using this unit for corporate video, and occasionally as a VO interface for LogicProX for about 18 months. It's an incredibly versatile little unit. My H5 is largely gathering dust now.

[@curtisjudd]

Glad it has worked well for you!

[@DavidKatz]

I love your reviews. I'm always about a year behind when the products are released and when your reviews come up in my feed, but luckily its always before I buy one! lol. Love this!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Dave. You might consider clicking the bell icon to be notified when the videos come out, even if you don't watch them right away, you'll at least know you can refer to them in the future.

[@amateurvisser]

Awesome. Thank you for the info. Currently have a Tascam DR-10L, but switching to the Zoom F1. Keep up the good work!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks and I hope the F1 works well for you!

[@ThirdCoastCrypto]

Good and thorough review; I have the F1 myself and love it. Unfortunately, I chose the "LP" version and it seems Zoom is still not selling the shock mount by itself which really renders the benefits of multiple capsules somewhat useless. I even emailed their support and got a "maybe we will sell it by itself." Poor customer service on that part in my opinion.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks. Yes, I agree, need to sell the shock mount separately or bundle it with all kits.

[@ThirdCoastCrypto]

Yes, completely agree. I picked up the XYH-6 X/Y capsule and I cant even really use it unless I strap it to a wall. I'm relying on velcro bundling straps that I normally use for cable management. I'm currently trying to find someone who has the shock-mount or can provide a thorough diagram of its dimensions. If I can get that info then I'll just begin 3d printing it.

[@JBGlossinger]

That is strange just ordered mine I have had a love/hate relationship with the Tascam. I also have the H6 so I have the microphone modules, it is a shame you can't buy the shock mount. Doesn't make much sense?? Lets see what they do.

[@ThirdCoastCrypto]

I just received an email just a moment ago from Zoom, they have availability of the shock mount for $29.99! Just a heads up for anyone who would like to order I suggest reaching out to them!

[@ThirdCoastCrypto]

Curtis Judd, PSA - Zoom just contacted me back and is selling the mount for $29.99.

[@n4cnk]

Also, the Tascam DR-10L is not capable of being used as an audio interface with a PC/Mac via USB. It is my understanding the Zoom F1 CAN be used in this manner. (Obviously not the main point of either pocket recorder, but nice to know if that option exists.) Love your videos and reviews!! Thanks!!

[@curtisjudd]

Good point, thanks!

[@LEDWORKSPHIILIPPINES]

It's awesome to see that you keep responding to questions in your channel. Just shows how much dedication you have :) I'll throw in my question as we are in the process of setting up our own small studio for our own product review and intro. So we don't want to go too crazy on the budget but still want to produce decent audio results. What would you recommend would be a good start for us if we plan to use it in studio recording and maybe some outdoor recordings? Looking at the F1 and H1N but not sure if this is what's going to get us a solid start. Thanks

[@curtisjudd]

I would think that the F1 would be a much more versatile option for you. Best wishes!

[@LEDWORKSPHIILIPPINES]

@@curtisjudd Appreciate the response. I just viewed your Rode Wireless Go review and also thinking about that. I guess what i don't understand at this point is, whether the wireless systems would already produce an awesome sounding video or would you still think the F1 having better preamps would still be the better buy? We just don't know which if it even will make a difference. 😊

[@curtisjudd]

@@LEDWORKSPHIILIPPINES I suppose it depends on what you're using now to record audio. Getting a microphone closer than a camera microphone WILL make a difference. If you're shooting talking head shots and the person isn't moving around too much, the F1 with the shotgun microphone module boomed above the person speaking will likely produce the best sound, assuming the room you shoot in isn't too boxy or reverb-y sounding.

[@bjnslc]

Thanks very much. It's larger than I imagined, but the versatility looks good. The H1n includes some of the same display and control layout improvements over the H1. Thanks for underscoring that boom mounting a shotgun mic is far superior to mounting one on camera.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks BJ. Hoping to have a look at the H1n soon, too. Yes, always good to get that mic closer. Camera top is almost never the ideal option.

[@Marcus_R]

Great video! Would the audio quality with the XY capsule be the same if I recorded it with the H6 vs. the F1 recorder? I haven't understood yet if the interchangeable capsules have their own preamps or if this also goes through the internal preamps of the recorders.

[@curtisjudd]

Great question! Unfortunately, I don't know for sure. I believe the modules each have their own preamps, but not 100% sure of that.

[@francoisnel5253]

@@curtisjudd Preamps on the H4npro, H5 & H6 are supposed to be the same. A person would expect them to sound similar, but the F1 is intriguing option so I'll also look into trying to answer this same question.

[@curtisjudd]

@@francoisnel5253 Per the specifications on the ZOOM site, the preamps in the H4n Pro, H5, and H6 each support different levels of max gain which would suggest they are not identical. They likely sound similar at the same gain.

[@FelixFeatures]

Will this unit accept audio in on the USB connection and record on the SD card? I use an audio split cable on a helicopter helmet cable. Used to send the sound into an older GoPro, but I now want the sound into a field recorder, preferably without dropping another 100 dollars on having a different cable shipped to Norway...

[@curtisjudd]

No, just the 3.5mm input or the proprietary ZOOM connector.

[@FelixFeatures]

@@curtisjudd OK, thank you for taking the time to reply.

[@PeterMossUkulele]

Hi Curtis. So I have had more of a chance to experiment with my new F1 with the Shotgun mic. I plugged in a set of headphones and I must admit to being a tad disappointed with noise generated when moving the rotary on the capsule past 5 - not a hiss, more of a distant ocean or jet engine noise bleeding into the cabin. Don't get me wrong, its not "in your face" but I didn't expect it. Maybe I am expecting too much at this price point?? - I would like to ask when you did the overhead demo with it just out of shot, do you recall what the number was on the capsule and where were you peaking on the F1? Also when you connected to your camera via the headphone output, did you set the level with the test tone? and if you did, what level on your camera? - I apologise for all the questions but I see you as the expert in the field. Peter.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Peter, I'm sorry, I don't remember since it was a few years ago and I only had this on loan for the review. My recollection was that I set the GH5 to its lowest microphone input level setting (-12dB) and used the gain knob on the shotgun microphone to adjust the levels until the meter on the camera topped out at around -12dB. Which camera are you using?

[@PeterMossUkulele]

@@curtisjudd I am expecting a Sony a6400 (as a really nice birthday present). As I didn't want the challenge of learning the video and audio at the same time, I ordered the Zoom in advance and just monitored the audio quality from the headphone jack. What I will do is make some sample recordings to the inbuilt micro SD at 96k 24bit at different volume levels and import into FCPX. That way I can visualise the sound wave with both speech, then no speech for the noise floor. Also I will monitor with headphones from the computers audio output. I guess its trial and error. I very much appreciate your help with this. Peter.

[@curtisjudd]

@@PeterMossUkulele Ah yes, do not trust the headphone outputs on the ZOOM recorders. They add their own level of noise.

[@PeterMossUkulele]

@@curtisjudd So I imported a file into FCPX and there was a filter to remove unwanted background noise. It took away some of the bass frequencies but I added them back with the built in graphic EQ.

[@curtisjudd]

@@PeterMossUkulele Good! Are you satisfied with the sound?

[@hypnosecoachinghombach7517]

I've bought my F1 about 2 years ago (2020), used it a lot when shooting outdoors until about 1 year ago. I really liked it. After a break of about a year, I used it today again. In between two recordings, the battery lid chose to break while I was outdoor, somewhere in the woods. Of course I had no backup system. (who on earth carries emergency backup systems, that's so …) That was most inconvenient. I could continue to record with holding the f1 in one hand, pressing the lid down with my thumb, and holding the camera in the other hand. Not too easy when the camera has 1.4kg and you can't switch hands. I always wondered how long the lid would live. For me it was about a year of use. Not too long.

[@curtisjudd]

Oof. I wonder if ZOOM sells replacements?

[@hypnosecoachinghombach7517]

@@curtisjudd I've emailed them. Let's see if and how they react. I'll update here.

[@DebraDukes]

Curtis Absolutely amazing and yes I have been paying attention.Learned so much from watching.Can't Thank You enough.I definitely recommend anyone watching to start from the beginning because Curtis is Amazing.Again Thank You.And glad I watched from the Start.Deb.👌👍

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks! 👍

[@armenshah3849]

Thanks, Curtis. ☘️ I still watch your videos even if I am not intrested in the product. there is so much useful information in your reviews.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Armen!

[@KTHKUHNKK]

IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER. I LOVE THE TECH STUFF AS YOU DO. KEITH KUHN

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@PostColorGear]

It is surprising that they didnt include that safety track feature/option. That would push me more towards the Tascam DR-10L. Still an interesting little recorder and a nice "upgrade" to the H1. On an unrelated note, are you headed to NAB this year? I solidified my plans to go just the other day.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Dave, yes, hopefully they can add the safety track recording feature. Yes, I'll be at NAB and would love to meet in person!

[@PostColorGear]

Hopefully they will. Like you said, firmware. And cool! Sounds good. I'll reach out to you once it gets closer and we'll plan for it :)

[@fixedfocusmediaofficial]

I got this recorder because I needed a tiny recorder for a lav mic. The biggest issue that I have with it though is the built-in microphone input has gain presets and worst of all has much more noise than my other recorders. I still like it for putting on top of a camera outside when I don't want a larger and heavier setup but unfortunately even the most inexpensive recorder I have seems to have much cleaner gain. It seems to be a good tiny recorder for microphone modules but the performance with the built-in mic input is a bit lacking. I have made some decent field recordings with it but for field recording size isn't as much of a concern so I prefer my bigger recorder. The big recorder does seem to get more attention though which is sometimes a downside in crowded areas. Needless to say for me it is a great compact setup for using mic modules on top of a camera but using it with a lav mic for a school district video was a huge mistake. Perhaps the lav mic I use is to quite for the F1 but somehow the cheapest recorder I own (Tascam DR-05) performs much better with the same mic. The stereo mics for the Zoom are much better than the DR-05 though.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@fixedfocusmediaofficial]

@@curtisjudd Maybe mine is faulty. I did some tests and it definitely isn't my lav mic. The preamps with the mic modules are fine but the built-in 3.5mm input has a lot of hiss.

[@curtisjudd]

@@fixedfocusmediaofficial Yeah, I'm not sure. I borrowed the kit I used for this review from B&H and it was the kit with the shotgun mic attachment so I used my own lavalier microphones. Any luck contacting ZOOM support?

[@fixedfocusmediaofficial]

@@curtisjudd It's probably to late. I think it's past their warranty period but I'm going to do some experimenting because it has been awhile since I used it. I just remembered the hiss and at the time it was for a video for a local school district. I remember staying up past 3:00am trying to fix the audio and wondering why I didn't use the same proven equipment from last time. Who knows, maybe it was just really bad shielding but it sounded like preamp noise to me. They still liked the audio but it definitely wasn't anywhere near as good as the first time. I learned my lesson though as painful as it was. Squinting at a screen for that many hours till that early in the morning is something I never plan to do again.😆

[@GusDaCosta]

Great review as always Curtis. Thank you! I may be getting that soon.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Gus!

[@Musiquedecor]

My H6 just died, so I’m thinking of just getting this to make use of all the modules I bought for the H6. Hopefully all the module mics work with this. I won’t be buying the H8 or another H6 to replace it cause I just don’t trust spending that much on another zoom product. H6 was barely used or taken out into the field. We were using it as a interface and it just decided to stop working. It’s about 3 years old with barely any abuse. Just want to make use of the modules and perhaps use the F1 with the modules for traveling. Thoughts? Otherwise I’d have to sell my modules without a recorder somewhere.

[@Musiquedecor]

Oh btw I went and bought the Mix Pre 6 ii as my main recorder but just looking to make use of the modules

[@curtisjudd]

Sell

[@Musiquedecor]

@@curtisjudd thank you I highly respect your input

[@cactusbaboon321]

The F1 would be able to record in stereo. You would be able to use a 3.5mm TRS split cable. The XYH-6 stereo capsule would also be compatible with the device.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks.

[@089mic]

Curtis 👍 Great Video like always. I have the zoom f1 and the tascam dr-10l. And when I use both in the same situation with the rode videomicro, the zoom f1 has way more noise floor and hiss as the tascam. I used the zoom f1 with sound Level M+ and the tascam with level M. I also tried in post to get both files to the same level. Do you have same experience? Thx

[@curtisjudd]

Hi, unfortunately, I didn't have the ZOOM lavalier to test, just the shotgun mic attachment. But it sounds like you should do a video comparing them since you have them both. 👍

[@089mic]

@@curtisjudd Thx Curtis :-) I ordered a new Zoom F1...Maybe my F1 has a technical defect. Because the noise in the Zoom F1 was really extremely louder than the Tascam Dr10l. The problem was mainly with the "Rode videomicro" and I had neither a limiter or a low cut filter activated. Well .. next week comes the new Zoom F1 and I try it again.

[@Isarlog]

da Mic Did the replacement solve the problem?

[@089mic]

@@Isarlog Servus Isarlog ;-) The answer is: No. In my opinion the zoom f1 has much more noise floor as the tascam. especially with the Rode Videomicro the noise is significantly louder. Maybe I'm really over-sensitive, but if I can hear the noise in a dialogue, it's too much for me. With the Tascam is much less. Likewise, it's much easier to reduce the noise in post-production without having heavy sound losses. I will soon make a video with a comparison. Honestly, I do not understand why many KZbinrs rate the noise as "acceptable".

[@curtisjudd]

@@089mic It sounds like you are unique in testing the F1 and RODE Video Micro. That is not a combination I tried. Keep in mind that in many cases, it is the microphone which contributes most to the noise floor. And in some cases, a preamp and microphone combination simply do not work well together. Thanks for sharing the results of your tests!

[@BackonTrailasia]

Mesmerising to listen to all the numbers being delivered as if it was plain english. :-) Really enjoy your reviews. I got a small youtube channel, adventures in the wild, and I like the idea to record the ambient noice for background more that ranting or use music, but what recorder would you recommend? I have an old and fading Zoom H1, been looking at the Zoom H1n and now at the F1. But in doing so I have opened Pandoras box, there are SOOO many interesting recorders to choose from.

[@curtisjudd]

The F1 has interchangeable microphone capsules, so if you want to invest for the long term and potentially add other types of microphones for the future, e.g., a shotgun microphone to capture specific birds, then the F1 makes sense. If you just want stereo ambience, the H1n is a fine choice. In fact, there's a special deal on the H1n today and tomorrow. You can find the details at learnlightandsound.com

[@BackonTrailasia]

@@curtisjudd I have a question that might sound weird, none the less, I would love if it is a solution out there for it. I do kayaking, will need 2 types of recording on the fly, ambient noise (river flowing, birds singing, elephants playing, etc....) but at the same time I need conversation at times. Does such a recorder exist, where I can record 2 seperate tracks at the same time, one with stereo input and another track with lavalier input?

[@curtisjudd]

@@BackonTrailasia I'm not aware of any recorders this small with 3 inputs. The Sound Devices MixPre-3 would do the job but is quite a lot larger, a bigger commitment.

[@fos2830]

Best video review of THE recorder a found. Good job!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@Panotaker]

Have you tried the line input? I have a Zoom F1, and I tried to use the line input and with the Zoom set to Lo-, and the mic input hooked up straight to the line output of my receiver, and it is super distorted. It works fine if I use an attenuator, but without the attenuator, it is all distorted, with everything set to the lowest setting. Give the line input a try and see if it works. I looked for a setting in the menus to set the mic input to line input, but could not find one.

[@curtisjudd]

I'll give it a try, thanks.

[@john-carlosynostroza]

Dude, you are amazing at these reviews. Fantastic work! Also what a great product.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks John-Carlos!

[@LeonardoVarasGuerrero]

A pleasure to whatch your videos, as usual.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Leonardo.

[@sound4label]

Hello Curtis, thanks for your amazing work, I've ordered yesterday the new wireless go from Rode but I think adding an audio recorder will be nice to have better preamp versus my Fuji xT30 to shoot corporate indoor interview, will you advise me to buy : - Z1+Shotgun - Z1+ Lavalier - H1n+ Rode SmartLave ? Thanks for your answer ,greetings from Paris :)

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Sound4Label, I don't think you'll find a substantial improvement in audio quality by adding the Zoom F1 between the RODE WIRELESS GO and your Fuji. But if you want the recorder to make backup recordings, I'd probably suggest the F1 + Lavalier. Best wishes!

[@sound4label]

@@curtisjudd Thanks for your answer :) a last question, I've watched your video about placing a Boom Mic as the F1 SP, do you think F1 SP placed like this will be better than recording Rode wireless go without lavalier direct to Fuji ? It's hard for me to compare and imagine the quality result. I shot last month with the RodeFilm maker kit (without Zoom, directly to Fuji XT30 using a 3,5mm to 2,5mm adapter and the sound was not good at all with a lot of noise). I've a job interview this month and I will be happy to improve my setup :) Many thanks, Ben

[@curtisjudd]

@@sound4label Hi Ben, ok, sounds like the Fuji input is pretty bad. Yes, in that case, the F1 will probably sound better if you boom it in close. Best wishes!

[@sound4label]

@@curtisjudd Thanks, Makes me so happy to read your answer, I've watched quite all your videos and finally decided to spend more money to reach better quality,I still have a doubt between NTG4 or NTG2, I will use it most of the time for Indoor interview. Also I will by an audio recorder, could you help me to choose one please :) ? Many Many thanks Curtis, have a good evening :)

[@curtisjudd]

@@sound4label Hi again! If you go with the NTG2, which I prefer of these two microphones, you will need an audio recorder with a strong preamplifier. Will the recorder just be for feeding audio to the Fuji or will you record separately from the camera and sync in post? What is your budget for the recorder?

[@galachiev]

Your reviews are extremely helpful, thanks a lot! I’m looking for “wearable” recording for lav mic. I thought to buy Zoom h1n, but you in your review told that F1 is more suitable for this task. I’d like to ask is there some record/preamp quality between this two? It’s to hard to compare them from reviews because you used different mics and recorded on H1N in the studio. F1 was recorded in a car, which makes sound worse (in my opinion). I’d like to get best quality out of lav mics.

[@galachiev]

Now I discovered that there are also 32 bit options on the market. Now I’m much more confused. Btw I already have rode wireless go and rode lavalier go. And not sure should I upgrade at all.

[@curtisjudd]

@@galachiev Of all those you've listed, I'd consider the ZOOM F2 if you want a recorder: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKqYYqOqeKaCmqs But if you need a wireless system, I'd stick with the Wireless GO unless it is causing problems for you?

[@galachiev]

@@curtisjudd wireless go works fine. I’m just thinking maybe wired system with recorder instead of recording into camera will sound better. I’m not really happy with sound of mics. That’s why I’m always use a boom mic which sounds much better. But lavalier is very handy sometimes, that’s why I decided to look for a decent audio quality from them. Maybe all lavs just have no potential to sound as great as a boom or studio condenser mic. Or maybe I’m just using very cheap equipment (lavalier go, wireless go and recording to Fuji x-t4). You have much more experience with lav mics, that’s why I’m asking for advice. Very appreciate your answers!

[@curtisjudd]

@@galachiev Lav mics always sound like lavalier mics because they're worn on the body. You have to EQ them to get them sounding good. Here's how I approach that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-ZmnVniLOpiLM

[@1990jcm]

You have great reviews, especially for someone like me who is just getting into film making. I did have a question though. I am starting a new channel which is all filmed outdoors and was wondering if the Zoom F1 or the H1n with Rode Smartlav would be better in your opinion. Mostly the recordings would be dialog and environment/nature sounds.

[@curtisjudd]

I’d look at the Zoom F2 at this point: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKqYYqOqeKaCmqs

[@przybylskipawel]

Hi Curtis! Based on your experience with Zoom if I was in a market for ultra portable AV recorder with high quality of sound but was concerned about the quality of Video in Zoom Q8 should I wait for Q8's successor maybe or rather get F1 and try to pair it with some gopro-like or other tiny camera? The setup must be so small that it can be mouted safely on a sturdy microphone stand about 2,5m above ground.

[@curtisjudd]

If you need it now, I’d go with the F1 and action cam. If you can wait, that seems like a fine choice as well though I have no inside info on when Zoom will have an update to the Q8.

[@plrpilot]

I have three of these and use them quite often. I don't trust wireless, but I need their portability and wire-free setup. But I'm not necessarily happy with their lapels for a lot of my interview work. I do mostly non-profit interviews, and I personally finance this. With that said, what lapels would you recommend most for the F1? Specifically, I need three that are good lapels that are ok for external clip-on. I'm also looking for at least two that I can conceal. I know your options may not be inexpensive, and that's ok. I just don't want to spend $1000/lav, especially if the F1 couldn't handle the quality anyway.

[@curtisjudd]

I'd have a look at the DEITY W.Lav Pro and W.Lav Micro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/al7OfpKug5qmhqM

[@Brian.Melnyk]

I wish this had a line out so that you could use it as a preamp. Line in from my Sarmonic Lav equipment and then line out through my camera and record straight onto my video track.

[@curtisjudd]

That’d be a nice addition 👍

[@PeterMossUkulele]

Hey Curtis - Great test and video. I have subscribed to your channel. I have just purchase F1-SP version, but will probably order the lav mic at a later date. I have a question. In Video when people shoot in RAW, in post they talk about having their favourite LUT's etc. So do you have an audio enhancer plug in that you would recommend? - I have Final Cut Pro X for editing. Cheers, Peter.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Peter, congrats on the new recorder! I hope it works well for you! I don't have a preset audio enhancer. But I usually use this EQ technique and loudness normalize my audio after that. Here are a couple of videos outlining how I do these. EQ: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-ZmnVniLOpiLM Loudness 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIDdi357jK9orc0 Loudness 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onmxmat9pM95iLc

[@PeterMossUkulele]

@@curtisjudd Thank you Curtis - Most helpful. keep up the great work you do. Peter.

[@bioslash]

Dude! I was just looking at this and thinking "I wonder if Curits has reviewed this yet".

[@curtisjudd]

Sure enough! 👍

[@marclafunk9831]

Again, as always, a really great overview! Thanks Curtis and keep up the good work

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Marc!

[@brucewatkins5627]

Great review Curtis. I am headed to Antarctica in the Amazon and have big gear / size challenges, so the F1 was recommended with its compact shotgun for my GH5. I saw on your video at DC 5V USB input, but I don't think you mentioned it in your video. How effective it is that? Any comments on the Lab included with the F1? Finally, shotgun was a bit mid range heavy. Any other recommendations for a cost-effective mini shotgun for my GH5 (Rode VideoMic GO, Rode VideoMic Pro / Plus, or another compact shotgun that can connect directly to GH5 and can also be mounted on a mic-stand / boom like you did in your video). Thanks again for such great work!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Bruce, for shotgun mics, I prefer the VideoMic Pro+ if mounting on top of camera: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZSwh4awi9lggqs I can't say how well any of this gear will hold up in the Antarctic or the Amazon with the extreme temperatures and humidity. It isn't really built for those extremes. I have not used the Zoom lavalier - the kit I could get my hands on included only the shotgun mic. Good luck, sounds like some exciting travel!

[@ArlynEmrys]

initially I wasn't sure what the bars were for aside from the shockmount, but seeing the belt application in your video I was pretty happy. That might be very useful on set. It would be nice if they shipped it with a fanny pack strap or watch/ankle band to be used in lieu of a belt, quicker on/off. & as ankle it could double as set prop ankle monitor for house arrest.

[@curtisjudd]

Haha! Clever thinking!

[@solaradt]

Another one of your great review. Love how you explain things. Thank you Curtis.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Tom!

[@DrunkOnNukaCola]

The battery door has caused lost audio for me at least 5 times. It usually wears out too and is impossible to replace without getting an entirely new unit. It used to be my favorite, but now I'm looking for a better solution. Note: All the issues are when this was used often as an on-talent lavaliere mic.

[@curtisjudd]

Yeah, this is probably the worst in the ZOOM F series of recorders.

[@jake360flip]

Curtis, Your work is fantastic! Just binge watched a few of your videos.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Jake!

[@CheffidRigsby]

​ @Curtis Judd Would you say the F1 is better suited to record telephone dialog over the h1? Or dialog in general? Thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

If you mean, does it sound mid-range focused like a telephone, yes, sort of. It isn't "neutral" but a fair bit more mid range focused. Not my favorite.

[@jasonhirata3918]

great review Curtis thank you! so many comments already so I doubt you will see this but do you know if the f1 uses drop frame timecode? or can this be set as an option?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Jason, the F1 does not do timecode of any sort. You will either need to sync manually in post or output the audio from the F1 directly to the mic input on your camera.

[@harrij.9542]

According to zoom customer support they have no immediate plans to impelement Safety Track option in F1 via firmware update. So I made the decision to purchase 2 x H1N instead, for use with lavaliers, because they cost only half and have a working limiter built-in. I will just use tape to secure the gain-dial and microphone cable so there will be no problems.

[@curtisjudd]

Thank you Harri and best wishes!

[@TrailFeatures]

Given your review, I'm starting to suspect that my zoom F1 may be defective. My batteries are lasting far less than 11 hours, and I seem to be getting a lot more noise on my recordings. I also noticed a lot of noise passing through into my gh5. Did you notice a significant amount of noise while monitoring the sound through the gh5?

[@stevenrix7277]

You are not the only one having this issue on Panasonic GH5. Check if you can update the firmware of your camera, not sure if it will solve the issue, but i would start with that.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Trail Features, I did not notice a lot of noise on my GH5S but I didn't use it extensively connected directly to the GH5S. Are you using the shotgun mic mounted on your camera? Is the noise electronic hiss/self noise or actual sound in the environment where you're recording? Not sure about the battery life unless you have the F1 set to 96kHz? That can affect battery life.

[@PrabhjotSinghTech]

Curtis you are a true Jedi Master of Audio!!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Probhjot!

[@FabricioBaroni]

Hey Curtis, nice review! I would be very grateful to see a comparison of the zoom f1 vs zoom h5 and zoom f1 mounted on camera with shotgun vs videomic pro + mounted on camera. Thanks a lot!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Fabricio, I'll see if I can squeeze in a VMP vs F1 camera top comparison in. I hate shooting that way because it never sounds great, but that's definitely a fair comparison. I don't have an H5 so I cannot add that to the comparison, unfortunately.

[@FabricioBaroni]

Curtis Judd i totally agree with you, but i think in some cases is the only way to record audio so we have to make sure to use the right tool. it's a pity that you do not have an h5, but I hope you do some other comparison to have some reference, because the f1 promises to be a good portable option. Thanks for your work!

[@AwesomeKicks]

Thanks for your review! Seems that the Zoom SGH-6 is quite noisy. Not very usable in quiet environments.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Adrian. I thought -62dB was pretty good for what works out to be a $50 shotgun mic.

[@przybylskipawel]

Curtis Judd. But still I think it makes it unusable in certain circumstances. This RF noise is awfull. Do you think you can minimize it somehow by using different camera or so? Or maybe by using SSH-6?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Pawel, Interesting idea that I didn't consider. The GH5 didn't seem to create any RF interference with my RODE VideoMic Pro+ but might be worth a try with the F1 and shotgun. Alas, the F1 was on loan and I don't have it any more to do that test presently. I talked to Samuel from Zoom at NAB a couple of weeks ago about this and he said that they are looking at the issue.

[@raksh9]

Definitely like the sound of the mic when boomed over your head. How do you like this compared with the Rode Videomic Pro? I recently ran into a situation where this would have been perfect; I was shooting a series of audio only interviews in an airport cafe with background noise. I was using an Olympus WAV recorder, but there was a fair bit of ambient noise. A shotgun/cardioid with mini recorder would have helped a lot.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi raksh9, I prefer the VideoMic Pro+ as a shotgun mic (no RF noise pickup in my tests), but the F1 has the RODE beat in terms of versatility (shotgun or lavalier + a recorder). So it is a tradeoff. I'd go with the one which suits your needs the majority of the time.

[@TransplantHelper]

That thing sounds amazing as a boom!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@DailyBananaShot]

Which one Audio Format do you prefer to Record ?For interviews in studio

[@curtisjudd]

Wav, 24bit, 48kHz for dialogue for video.

[@szymonpawekuznicki4014]

@@curtisjudd Love!Thank you mister

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Curtis I have a zoom H5 and that attachment port looks the same as that can, you verify that maybe the accessories for the H5 would attach to the F1?

[@curtisjudd]

Confirmed: All of the accessory microphones that work with the H6 and H6 also work with the F1.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Curtis Judd that’s what it looked like

[@josetphoto]

Thanks so much for all your videos, Curtis, I've learned a lot and I'm especially grateful for this review because I thinking about paying it. Could you tell me what mic boompole and stand you use so I can attach the F1? Thanks again.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi José, The shockmount has a 1/4" tap. If you are doing seated interviews or talking head shots like I did here, you could use the microphone boom stand and 5/8 to 1/4" adapter we covered in this video (which also shows how to set it up): kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioaonoR4j7CieNU Best wishes!

[@nrvdo-pnw]

Great video Curt. I'd love to hear your thoughts on comparing the zoom F1 with shotgun capsule against the GH5 XLR adapter with a mid-level shotgun mic? Save a little money going the zoom route, you also get a separate audio recording along with sending audio to the camera. Audio quality wise what do you think?

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks! I think the F1 could be a fine option. The XLR1 was ok and is arguably more flexible as it has 2 inputs and you can use a much wider array of microphones. So I guess it comes down to which features are more important to you (separate recording vs flexibility). I'd probably be more inclined to go with the Zoom over the XLR1 since I have other recorders with XLR inputs I can use when I want more flexibility.

[@SharpeDunaway]

Great job Curtis!!! Thing I hated about the H1 was that you need a "dongle" of sorts to use the Rode Lav. Which I tend to lose a lot. Is the lav that comes with this the only one that will work with it or will my Sennheiser and other lavs work with it?

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Sharpe, this appears to work with standard TRS wired mics, which is good news! The VT500 I used here is wired for Sennheiser.

[@GDoggProductions]

great video , if you had a choice between this one of the zoom h8, what would you go for ? 😁

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks. I think that depends on the type of recording you plan to do. This with a lavalier is probably more useful for filmmakers who need that type of freedom. The H8 has a lot more inputs for running cabled mics and possibly wireless (though if very serious about film production, I'd skip the H8 and go for one of the ZOOM F series recorders).

[@GDoggProductions]

@@curtisjudd much help curtis :) thank you

[@alvamusic8103]

Hi Curtis! About noise floor...did you compare the zoom F1 and Tascam DR10 ? of course using a same microphone. Thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi ALVA music, unfortunately no, I had to return each of them as they were only on loan for about 4 weeks each, at different times.

[@JoseArrom]

The F1 seems to be similar to newer Zoom H1n, but you have: 1) better external jacks; 2) interchangeable microphone; 3) a boxier design which allows better placement on DSLR cameras. Good pros and cons.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@crossroadswalker]

Hello Curtis - I am considering purchasing the Zoom F1 with just the lavalier, but am wondering just how good this mic is and if there is another lavalier mic that I should consider that is more reasonably priced than the Voice Technologies VT500 that you recommended? I have seen reviews that say that the wiring of the mic that comes with the Zoom F1 easily picks up noises when it moves or is rubbed against. Can you recommend another lavalier microphone? I understand that you can purchase the Tascam TM-10L Lavalier that comes standard with their portable voice recorder that is similiar to the Zoom F1. Do you think that this would be a good choice?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Dennis, the kit I had for this review did not include the Zoom lavalier so I'm not sure how well it performs. However, I can say that the Tascam lavalier is not very good so I wouldn't recommend it. I'd start with the Zoom lavalier and see how it goes. It sounded pretty good in some of the tests I heard from other people.

[@crossroadswalker]

Thanks so much for your advise Curtis!

[@przybylskipawel]

Is there any advantage in audio quality over H5/6 recorders? I guess there is an advantage in portability and comfort of use in pocket. But what beside that?

[@curtisjudd]

Not so much of a difference in audio quality, but more about build quality and ergonomics. The screen on the F1 is easier to see outdoors than the H6. They seem to have stepped up the build quality on this generation over the H5/H6. And of course the size...

[@SpringMichael]

The Zoom F1 can be used as an audio interface. When running the device in the Direct Monitor mode, how is the quality of the signal the computer picks up different from "pure" audio interface devices like focusrite or Zoom U-24?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Michael, About the same in my subjective experience. The bigger difference seems to be which microphone you use with the F1 or interface.

[@SpringMichael]

@@curtisjudd Thank you for your fast response and its content. I still have another question: Which microphone would you consider to be more suitable for recording one's (singing) voice, the Lavalier or the Zoom shotgun mic? Thank you again!

[@curtisjudd]

@@SpringMichael For singing, I'd go with the shotgun microphone capsule.

[@mixednutt42]

Curtis, this review was excellent. Thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Steve!

[@andrewgarley1400]

Looking at getting one, Wondering how effective the foam windshield is or invest in a Fur shield

[@curtisjudd]

You'll want a fur shield if there will be any wind. Foam is generally only good for preventing plosives when the mic is close to the person speaking.

[@hackista]

Great review Curtis, Have Zoom updated the firmware to include a safety recording?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Lisa, good question - not sure - had to send it back as I was just borrowing it.

[@ColeDeRuse]

Thanks for the great review as always! But Dangit... I have two tascam DR 10L recorders being shipped to my house as we speak.... so the question is do I return them and get these instead? I really like the second track recording feature on the tascams... I have one DR 10L already and enjoy it, but now I’m torn after watching this review.

[@SoundSpeeding]

Nah, I reckon the Tascam DR10L is better! (smaller/lighter, very important for a bodypack recorder!)

[@curtisjudd]

If the 10Ls are working for you and you're not interested in the add-on mics of the zoom, then I think you've made a good decision. Also, if the plan is to hide them, I'd much rather hide a 10L than an F1.

[@ColeDeRuse]

thanks bro! I'm gonna keep them then ;)

[@ColeDeRuse]

thanks for your help Curtis, that solidified my decision. Appreciate you're response!

[@przybylskipawel]

Hi Curtis! I always keep coming back to your reviews as there are always some detials I need. But I have another question. I intend to buy this device to use it with the Zoom capsules that I own as ultra-portable music recording setup with Sony RX0 II (or Z CAM E1 if I lay my hands on that one). I actually own also Zoom ECM-3 cable that would allow me to mount only the capsules, not the device. I need both internal recording to fine-tune sound and audio output to camera to make sync easier or for instant upload. But when I started to think about it I found out a problem. F1 doesn't have line out. Only 2x11mW headphone out. So I started to wonder if will be enough to feed to camera. Sony seems to have hot input. When I custom made 5-pin XLR to 3.5mm minijack cable (with -12dB resistors removed) for my Rode NT4 it output signal so strong that I can set gain in camera at 1 (out of 30 something). But Z cam E1 has line input. Also Panasonic GH5S that I plan to purchase has line input which would be nice to benefit from. But does Zoom F1 provide strong enough signal? Maybe I should go for something like second-hand Zoom H5 which actually have line out? How do you judge the signal strength on Zoom F1 out?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Paweł, I would not think that a stereo output with 11mW 32 ohm would be enough, just for consumer earbuds or headphones. I'd give it a test if I still had it on hand, but unfortunately, I only borrowed it for this review.

[@przybylskipawel]

@@curtisjudd And for mic level input in normal camera?

[@curtisjudd]

Probably ok in that situation is my guess, yes.

[@przybylskipawel]

@@curtisjudd I guess I will have to just searching for best second hand deal and adapt. After all it is not studio-quality recording. I can always use mic level input and swap the tracks.

[@FinancialInformation]

Looks good and very portable. I just wish it had an xlr input but i understand why it’s not there

[@curtisjudd]

One of the accessories you can attach to the zoom microphone port at the top is a module with 2 XLR inputs. I believe they do NOT supply phantom power so your microphones will either need to supply their own power or you could use dynamic microphones (which do not require power).

[@FinancialInformation]

Yes, I was thinking about that but no phantom power. I see that you have the RE20 right? I heard you still need to get an extra device such as Cloudlifter to remove the noise from the amp. Thanks for the video and all the work you do

[@curtisjudd]

With preamps like the Zoom add-on XLR adapter, yes, definitely need a Cloudlifter or FETHead for dynamic mics like the RE20 or SM7B.

[@patricklandond1]

Awesome review video, did seem like a lot of noise in the shotgun set up on the camera early in the video... Interested in this mic for run n gun set up... used a rode mic on the last project... any thoughts on best run n gun shotgun mic? especially if you were just to use it on camera or a small jib arm pointing toward the talent?

[@curtisjudd]

I like the RODE VideoMic Pro+: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZSwh4awi9lggqs

[@patricklandond1]

Right, used that on our last production, it is a workhorse. TY!

[@patricklandond1]

Is there a higher end shotgun mic you recommend as well, or do you think the RODE VMP is worthy of the job?

[@curtisjudd]

If it is going to be mounted on the camera, I cannot think of a better camera-top shotgun mic. Higher quality, larger shotguns are wasted when mounted on top of a camera in my experience. They don't sound any batter than the VMP if that's where they're mounted. They shine in cases when you can boom them properly within about 10-18 inches of the person speaking.

[@manfromhoreb]

Hi Curtis, for field recording (foley, ambient sounds) and voiceover/dialogue in filmmaking, which one would you recommend on a budget (enough for any of the three below)? F1 + shotgun mic / XY stereo mic H4n H1n Thanks.

[@curtisjudd]

ZOOM F3

[@50450720]

It’s a tough call between this and the smaller but less versatile tascam dr10l.

[@michaelocunningham]

seems like this is the better option in my opinion in terms of features

[@curtisjudd]

Agreed. The only clear thing is that if you will be using the recorder for a lavalier mic and need to hide it, the 10L seems like a better choice. But aside from that, the F1 is far more versatile.

[@esunayg]

love your summaries... !!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks!

[@daddyndamazk576]

Fantastic video as always Sir. I do have one question... what if I attach the shotgun mic capsule and plug in an external mic simultaneously. What would happen in that case? Thanks for everything Curtis and keep up the awesome work. Best reviews on KZbin by far 😁

[@curtisjudd]

It only works with one microphone at a time, unfortunately.

[@daddyndamazk576]

@@curtisjudd Thanks for the reply good Sir 😊

[@tomkent4656]

Love to hear your review of the new F2.

[@curtisjudd]

I've got one on preorder and plan to review it here. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@ArlynEmrys]

When Tascam 701D is compared to Zoom H6, which one has better mic pres? which one has less channel noise? I know from testing I start hearing channel noise above setting 6 on the zoom. When does that happen on the Tascam 701D? The used prices seem to be pretty close between these two, which is why I'm looking for a comparison. Do they have similar features?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Joseph, I didn’t have them at the same time, so I didn’t do a specific comparison, but from memory, the Tascam produced a tiny bit less self noise. By tiny, I mean about 1-2 dB so it isn’t a huge difference.

[@MadeBySpencer]

Hey Chris, thank you for the review. How do you like the preamps in the F1 compared to the older H4n? Do you think they are the same preamps? I currently own a F1 and am not very satisfied with the noise floor I get with with the included F1-SP

[@curtisjudd]

Hmm, that's a tough one. The H4n's preamps sound warmer to me than the F1, but I haven't formally compared the noise floors. Looking back, the F1 isn't my favorite sounding recorder but I thought the biggest issue was the mid-range focused sound unless that shotgun mic is very close. Though the self-noise could be an issue as well if you're recording in a quiet space without a lot of ambient noise.

[@wbdill]

Anybody know of this model ever got a firmware update for safety track capabilities?

[@curtisjudd]

I haven't heard.

[@CristobalColonPR]

Thanks for all your great videos! So much, so good information! Just one question: since it's a 2- track recorder, is there any way I can connect two lavaliers to the F1? Thanks!

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Cristobal, thanks! You could probably fashion a 3.5mm splitter but I haven’t tried it. You also would not have independent control of the input/trim levels for the two mics. Best wishes!

[@nevinkuser9892]

boya has a split lav mic that's really great.

[@JensChrStrandos]

Excellent review. Just bought the F1 and searched to see if you had made a review😀

[@curtisjudd]

I hope it works as well for you as it did for me!

[@JensChrStrandos]

@@curtisjudd First test worked perfectly :-)

[@davidmay3239]

Hi Curtis, I'm considering replacing my H5 with an F1 just because of the size, and I don't use the additional inputs of the H5. They use the same mics, my only concern is with the sound quality. The sample rates suggest it uses the same converter, but are the preamps the same as the H5 too? The price is currently very similar too. Have you done this comparison?

[@curtisjudd]

Hi David, I haven't specifically compared the H5 and F1. I wonder if the A/D converter is in the microphone modules for those mics which connect to the proprietary zoom interface. If so, the F1 and H5 will be identical when using those mics.

[@tryhrdcom]

Hey Curtis, would you say the Zoom F1 is a good place to start with off camera audio? I'd like to work my way up to a Zoom F4 and high quality shotgun mic for film making, but could use a more affordable solution in the short term. I used to have an H1 and it fell apart on me, so the more robust build of the F1 sounds like it would be worth the money on that point alone.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Liam, yes, I believe the F1 is a good starting point. Definitely more robust than the H1. Also more flexible for a variety of situations.

[@tryhrdcom]

Thanks! Your channel is one of the best on KZbin. I really appreciate your work, its teaching me a ton.

[@nitsan]

Great review. Looks like a nice little recorder.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Nitsan, good to hear from you and hope all is going well!

[@nitsan]

Thanks. You too! :)