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@g0fvt
@g0fvt Жыл бұрын
Regarding the piston taper, it is also the hottest part of the piston when the engine is running so it expands more than the rest of it. It is easy for people to forget that the pistons heat faster than the block or liners. Insufficient clearance can kill an engine very quickly.
@stephendennis7871
@stephendennis7871 Жыл бұрын
Well done, I agree the flame front on the top of the piston will pass the heat into the piston which will allow it to expand more than the bottom
@Maples01
@Maples01 Жыл бұрын
Years ago, when pistons were cast iron, upon start up the engine had a slight knock till the pistons warmed enough to swell, never seen one, was before my time, but the instructor told us about it back in 1993 in engine basics class.
@geoffvannerson5252
@geoffvannerson5252 Жыл бұрын
It is a matter of compromise between a loose fit or tight fit in the engine. You want the tightest fit for the engine's Pistons to get more power but you don't want them too tight to the point that when they expand with heat that they bind up on the cylinder walls and destroy the engine
@Biden_is_demented
@Biden_is_demented Жыл бұрын
I´m no gearhead, but as he was talking about the piston rocking, i immediately thought about the metal expanding with heat and filling that gap. It´s just such a natural common sense deduction, that i am left wondering how these people that are building their engines failed to grasp it!! If they don´t have a clue about the simplest nature of an engine´s inner workings, then they have no business building an engine. Some of this stuff just requires you to think for a minute, before going on a rampage in an email or video.
@Maples01
@Maples01 Жыл бұрын
@@Biden_is_demented I got in a heated debate with an, "engine builder" over exhaust rotators, he declared there was no such thing as I had been discussing on a forum how I was bending pushrods, and the engine shop I took my heads to found a previous shop had put the exhaust valve rotator and spring on an intake valve, clearance was fine stock cam, but the cam I swapped in caused it to bottom out, bend my pushrod. I was called all kinds of names, after all he had experience, I was just trying to save my 351M, and I would never go back to the shop who helped me and call them what he called me, as I could clearly see the difference in the exhaust valve springs and intake, yes there is a device in there thats supposed to turn them, sent him several links on the internet about head design that explained them, even one pointing out the GT40 Ford heads he boasted about building having them. There seems to be a lot of people out there that are experts at knowing little to nothing at all, they create a lot of work for those who have to fix what they have worked on, be it car or house, some people shouldn't be allowed to own tools.
@alamocannon3791
@alamocannon3791 Жыл бұрын
I`m no engine builder, But that was very educational watching the valve guides been done. Great vid.
@kal5163
@kal5163 Жыл бұрын
Excellent episode. I can imagine the kind of language if one of those ball bearings bounced away! I haven't seen anyone else explain the piston taper so well. Nice job.
@minigpracing3068
@minigpracing3068 Жыл бұрын
The valve guide process is pretty neat, thanks for showing us.
@wssides
@wssides Жыл бұрын
Guess I'm VERY old school. Last time I checked piston fit I was still putting it in the bore alongside a feeler gauge.
@terencehawkes3933
@terencehawkes3933 Жыл бұрын
Very neat air tool for making sure your reamer is perfectly aligned with the axis of the valve and for sizing the valve guide lines. It's stuff like that which makes going to a shop like yours absolutely essential. Anything less is a hopeless bodge.
@simonratcliffe6703
@simonratcliffe6703 Жыл бұрын
Today's video is very educational. I didn't no about the piston being tapered and interested about valve guides . Top channel.
@Zion-jw3gm
@Zion-jw3gm Жыл бұрын
Interesting the bit that you thought was a waste of your time was actually really eye opening, 😂 the things we take for granted, amazing!!
@bwfvc7770
@bwfvc7770 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Good clip. I started as a Mechanic in NZ back in 1971 when we were thrashing Humber 80's and Angle-Boxes. 3500 revs and you're starting to break centre main bearing caps. Would go to another donor engine and take the cap from that and, Voila, back on the road. The earliest high performance engine that I personally saw, was the Coventry Climax, originally a Firepump engine which before FVA's and BDA's revving to 6,000, would rev in excess of 8-8500 revs, in the fifties and were used in the much maligned Hillman Imp and I think the Cooper Climax. This was in the time when they just started Cam Grinding pistons. The most fascinating engine I have seen was a Marine Crossley. Probably about 300 revs maxs maybe a bit more, as a motor on old Ferryboats, replacing steam engines. Me and the Engineer used to sit in the bilges with targets set up by the prop shaft shooting slug pistols at targets, to pass the trip and wait for the Skip' to call for reverse. The engineer would walk over to the massive engine that was moving visibly, not just in the mounts but the parts seemed only loosely bolted together, head bolts bubbling and all the engine dancing. He would stop the engine and move a lever that pulled the cam in or out or introduced an idler and the engine would then run in reverse. Huge coarse prop. No gearbox. A clonkity, clonkity, clonkity, probably now only a memory. Like a big slow Gardner.
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Жыл бұрын
Ha, my mate had a Hillman Imp here in NZ in the mid 80s, one day he pulls up and says, "My car is making a funny sound" I go outside have take a look, zero coolant in the radiator, i asked him when was the last time you put water in it, or even checked the water? He looks at me like an idiot and says "Water?....what water?"🤣🤣🤣One dead Imp. I started in Motorcycles at a Honda shop, so nearly all the engines were built and engineered as high performance engines. The 250cc four cylinder bikes from the early 90s had redlines at 19 to 20,000rpm. 😆. We watched a video once of Honda mechanics working on a RC149, Hondas 5 cylinder 125cc race bike from the mid 60s, they had a 33mm bore and 4 tiny valves per cylinder, they were using tweezers to assemble the valve train. 😆
@catxls1835
@catxls1835 Жыл бұрын
Control bearing balls @ +/-2% were always expensive, but I didn't realise they had become so much more expensive. Wowzer. Great video as always Lee.
@mightyweapon
@mightyweapon Жыл бұрын
Hi power 3sgte, nice. Best engine ever developed! Auto machinist from NZ.
@rgadave
@rgadave Жыл бұрын
20 years ago I was rebuilding a CB250RSA Honda motorcycle and was having the cylinder barrel re-bored to suit a Genuine Honda +.050 piston. The engineer doing the job asked me what clearance do Honda recommend. We were both surprised with the genuine workshop manual (not Haynes) which quoted 1 Thou of an inch. When bored the piston without rings would not drop of it's own volition, it had to be gently pushed. Over the following years Honda were proved right, the engine did not seize, burn oil and reformed faultlessly. After a history of British and Italian bikes where 3 to 4 thou was 'normal', this 1 thou was an eye-opener. Love your postings.
@nooboftheyear7170
@nooboftheyear7170 Жыл бұрын
Yay... I remember at 30, my 9yro brother teaching me stuff. Never be too proud to learn.
@aticusaticus9138
@aticusaticus9138 Жыл бұрын
a most eloquent explanation, easily understood by the novice and expert alike. loved it. making something that is complicated simple and straightforward.
@Marksracingengines
@Marksracingengines Жыл бұрын
I get the same phone call at least once a week, especially when someone is using a 2618 alloy piston. They freak out! lol. And on the carbide balls for the K-liners, I use a large round magnet tray under the guide to catch the ball. I got tired of chasing the damn things around the shop lol. Awesome Video!
@thamimadikane-t8c
@thamimadikane-t8c Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a good lesson God bless from South Africa
@1sapphie
@1sapphie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the teaching on the piston issue. I’m not @n engine builder just diy and was told many many years ago that’s how to determine bore wear. I know better now. Thanks again. 😊
@TheDivergentDrummer
@TheDivergentDrummer Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown. Detailed and to the point.
@smorris12
@smorris12 Жыл бұрын
I've just finished rebuilding my first engine (wasn't intending to, just sort of full into it) and took away all sorts of interesting info from the machine shop that bored the block and reground the crank. But then I'm always willing to learn from people with practical experience!
@michaelmason5459
@michaelmason5459 Жыл бұрын
That was interesting about tapered pistons, you could do with a tips video to help home builders, reffer them to it which will aid thier rebuild information is always good from the professional rebuilders, may also cut down on the phone calls or emails. Brilliant site Regards Mick.
@josephp5058
@josephp5058 Жыл бұрын
Very educational, good tip about the piston gap, thank you
@lelandlewis7207
@lelandlewis7207 Жыл бұрын
I use liners in everything. I did a single head for a stockcar part way through the season with bronze liners, the other had mint guides since they had been already done with cast guides, so the owner didn't want them touched. At the end of the season, we checked the engine over, and the cast exhaust guides were worn out with some wear on the intakes; the liners were still perfect. I have never taken apart an American pushrod engine that didn't have the exhaust guides worn out. I have seen them with so much wear that the valve was hitting the side of the chamber. lol The worst actually had exhaust gasses blow past the stem when adjusting rocker clearance. Centre valves on small block Chevs are the worst.
@jamesblair9614
@jamesblair9614 Жыл бұрын
The test fit of the valve into a he finished guide, maybe I’m weird, but that was a beautiful thing.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 Жыл бұрын
Sound advice for those who want to rebuild their engines. I've known for years that pistons are tapered. I used to do engine reco/rebuild work for a living myself.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV Жыл бұрын
The fact they aren't checking piston to cylinder clearance before building the engine, tells us everything we need to know!
@ronald3148
@ronald3148 Жыл бұрын
as below when on operating temp the piston would be cylindric. When going to Tractor puling you should listening to a pro-stock. You could hear the pistons tumbling in the block when cold.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 Жыл бұрын
Yup ally rods/pistons and nitromethane you gotta have hige clearance when cold
@bill8by5
@bill8by5 Жыл бұрын
Love watching your videos Lee!! Too bad the Home Engine builders who perceive clearance issues are not familiar with engine dynamics or thermal metallic activity on an engine. Oh well. They might learn one day.
@getahanddown
@getahanddown Жыл бұрын
The clearance isn't the block machinists issue anyway if they're just boring to X size. The customer has the pistons and the gap is theirs to worry about. If the bore matches what was ordered then the job is done.
@jamesfurness2132
@jamesfurness2132 Жыл бұрын
You are wrong in stating pistons have a taper skirt, they have a barrel shaped skirt. The peak of the barrel occurs approx 8mm from the open end, the clearance increases as you move vertically away from this position. Pistons also have ovality, measurements should only be taken at 90 deg to the pin axis. Greatest land temperature is obviously the top one, followed by the second then the third, lands can be taper and oval. Hence the different land clearances. There is a temperature differential from the top to the bottom of the piston; crown approx 280 deg max, pin hole 230 deg max, skirt temperatures vary dependent on whether a thermal heat break is present, bottom of skirt approx 160 deg.
@mikepickett3277
@mikepickett3277 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video Lee and Co.
@rogerking7258
@rogerking7258 Жыл бұрын
Tapered, barrelled and oval. Pistons really are a complex shape to make sure that they come true when up to temperature.
@philipcullen4300
@philipcullen4300 Жыл бұрын
The valve guide replace ment looks like a great idea, i guess you can save all those pinto and cross flow heads
@Ju1ian10001
@Ju1ian10001 Жыл бұрын
I've built a couple of engines, i'm no mechanical engineer, just a car mechanic/MOT tester but even i know there is running clearance and the pistons usually rock over to an angle as the "Thrust up" the bore.
@hardergamer
@hardergamer Жыл бұрын
As you were talking about bikes, only 4ST have tapered pistons, but 2ST still don't.
@fastst1
@fastst1 Жыл бұрын
I've always sent the block and pistons together to get the proper fit and balance.
@Nicknofish
@Nicknofish Жыл бұрын
Clever valve guide repair system, nice.
@Wiltshire-observer
@Wiltshire-observer Жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔 🧐 I didn’t know that about modern pistons. It’s decades since I rebuilt an engine. In the ‘old’ days the pistons were linear throughout their length.
@johngreen8693
@johngreen8693 Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@simontheeldergeek523
@simontheeldergeek523 Жыл бұрын
When you are tapping the calibrated ball down the guide, try putting one of these magnetic component dishes underneath, lined with a sheet of paper towel to slightly cushion it.
@paulnolan1352
@paulnolan1352 Жыл бұрын
Cheers Lee one of your better videos although they’re all pretty good. Pistons are ground oval as well as tapered. See you soon.
@rrotwang
@rrotwang Жыл бұрын
Great machinist bravo Adam Brooklyn nyc
@georgerobartes2008
@georgerobartes2008 Жыл бұрын
Pistons are wave ground to a barrel form in the vertical and cam form in the horizontal very lightly , imperceptible to the naked eye. The ring lands are generally 0.25 mm (010" - sometimes more ) less in diameter than the nominal skirt diameter . The grinding method produces the skirt finish to hold lubrication that if studied carefully with a magnifying glass appears as shallow waves .This combination of forms ensures a minimum skirt contact with the bore , but ensures sufficient lubrication to enter between the skirt and cylinder bore to float the piston .The vast majority of heat generated in the combustion chamber is carried away through the rings and therefore the most critical area in piston design and suitable alloys are chosen to maintain the set minimum clearance between the steel rings and their grooves . Excessive clearance in the ring grooves leads to flutter resulting in excessive heat generation , poor heat transfer and eventual failure . What appears to be excessive clearance between the installed piston and its bore is what the piston manufacturer has designed in to help the piston survive . The skirt clearance is what the piston manufacturer has calculated to allow for differential expansion between the piston alloy and cylinder bore material . This can range from 0 where both coated aluminium alloy are used for both piston and cylinder ( the extreme found in F1 engines which lock up when cold) to 004 -005 " / inch of bore in a low silicon alloy piston ( non eutectic ) in a cast iron cylinder. The metallurgy of a 2T piston enables it to suffer large temperature gradients across the whole of the piston not seen in a 4T cylinder .due to its porting arrangement.
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 Жыл бұрын
I have had some engines fitted with the thin-wall inserts, and been VERY happy with the results, but while i knew the theory, I hadn't the full story on using them - cool and interesting! Uh, no, that was ballocks about the piston and rings - VERY surprised you said that rubbish! a/ as others have siad, the additional clearance towards the top is because there is greater thermal expansion as the crown runs a LOT hotter - and it's why higher power engines are recommended to run an additional thou' or two, to allow for the higher temperatures. b/ the piston rings are fitted with a rear spacing, partly to allow gas behind them for better ring seal - when pushed back into the piston grooves they will sit back from the piston face. in practice, they're skimming the cylinder wall and floating within the groove as the piston moves slightly around TDC and BDC.
@stevebez9556
@stevebez9556 Жыл бұрын
Exactly why I watch the channel to learn! Building a 3.2 VR6 ironically - would love to see more content / detail on that build. That head also seemed to have been gas flowed?
@Jester-Riddle
@Jester-Riddle Жыл бұрын
Not an Engine enthusiast, but this is all interesting stuff ... especially with theory & demo both presented. One question: I wondered why you didn't remove the bottom excess of the injector lining before pushing the ball-bearing through ... as to my lack of experience, that would seem to avoid any deformity occurring when doing it as a secondary process ... as that way you can guarantee that the ball-bearing is the 'final-cut' ... I'll do my best to understand any answers to this ... Thanks.
@GTiGuy316
@GTiGuy316 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about "Piston rock" because of thermals ages ago. I remember hearing old saying "If you're running "X fordge pistons" in "blah Blah" you may hear a little piston rock, You gotta let it warm up before you beat the shit out of it
@nunyabidness674
@nunyabidness674 Жыл бұрын
All great you're doing the sleeve, but what about those seats? I'm looking at burn pitting all over the place. I've had more issues burning seats than bending valves in high output engines, especially when mitro-methane or Alcohol is added to the fuel. Normal for me is a 3 face grind on the valves, a 2 face grind on the seats, and then either bore/sleeve OR bore and install oversize shaft valves.
@gavinsmith9022
@gavinsmith9022 Жыл бұрын
I never knew you could do that with valve guides, very interesting.
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork Жыл бұрын
Great info and knowledge on this channel.
@philhealey4443
@philhealey4443 Жыл бұрын
Skirting (😂) around the startlingly shallow height of modern pistons that will clearly accentuate the 'rocking,' piston ring gap is an obvious further check issue before reassembling. I learned from dieselpumpuk recently that high performance engines should also use a deliberately wider ring gap to allow for increased expansion at higher operating temperatures.
@burban98
@burban98 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thankyou.
@fredflintstone8048
@fredflintstone8048 Жыл бұрын
Of course clearance is proportional to the size of the object. .003" is a lot when dealing with a shaft that may only be .200" or so in diameter. I enjoyed the comment about home engine builders 'not knowing what they don't know'. It's the Dunning Kruger effect.
@robbiejsaris3586
@robbiejsaris3586 Жыл бұрын
These vids are gold, Cheers Lee 👍
@robstirling3173
@robstirling3173 Жыл бұрын
Also, they are not looking at the piston to cylinder clearance when hot. Aluminium alloy has a greater coefficient of expansion than Cast Iron or Nickel Steel ( liner) Another thing to take on board, is that some pistons are also oval when cold and become round due to controlled expansion, as they heat up. The modern shorter, slipper pistons will rock more than those with a longer skirt. It's an education just to take a modern piston and measure it in both axes, it's not just the ring belt that is different! Great videos, I wish I had some of your kit when I was building engines 50 years ago!
@Maples01
@Maples01 Жыл бұрын
The stroker kits people use now were a big no no when I went to school, it was totally unacceptable to put the oil control ring over or extremely close to the piston pin, yet I've seen the Ford 347 stroker, looks to me as a catastrophic engine failure waiting to happen.
@borismcfinnigan3430
@borismcfinnigan3430 Жыл бұрын
​@@Maples01My 355 stroker has a 1.125 pin height piston, the pin is all the way, plus some, into the 3rd groove. It is fine. These pistons are 43mm, crown to base of skirt
@paulpaintshop103
@paulpaintshop103 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Lee 👍👍
@mikaelkrook2050
@mikaelkrook2050 Жыл бұрын
Good work!
@dougjenks6954
@dougjenks6954 Жыл бұрын
Nice , never got to rebuild engines but have a Chevy 350 I'm going to do .
@bryankirk3567
@bryankirk3567 Жыл бұрын
At 13:30 The main reason why there is a taper on pistons is because there is more metal at the top. This expands due to heat more. At running temperature they should be parallel. Engineers know things.
@Ju1ian10001
@Ju1ian10001 Жыл бұрын
Modern Pistons are never straight in the bore even when hot, is the piston starts it compression or exhaust stroke it will tip to an angle, thats why there is usually slightly more wear on one side of the piston, known is the Thrust side, it's more pronounced on diesel engines though.
@derekbevan7145
@derekbevan7145 Жыл бұрын
Pistons with such short skirt hight will Rock even more than old long skirt ones, as far as I can remember pistons were always tapered and oval before slipper pistons came along.
@miked6505
@miked6505 Жыл бұрын
whats the update on the ford/volvo engine ?
@richardmessenger9474
@richardmessenger9474 Жыл бұрын
I thought Lee was going to do the Focus ST engine on this blog as well...
@RomoRooster
@RomoRooster Жыл бұрын
There's two machine shops around where I live, the owners are brothers and they compete to see who can charge the most to fuck up your engines or heads. So when I stopped having machine work done to heads or blocks I started having better rebuilds and better engines.... it's weird how machine shops can destroy mechanics reputations in a given area
@TheBlibo
@TheBlibo Жыл бұрын
Regarding the valve guides why not measure them before fitting ? Dosnt a new guide conform to OEM dimensions and tolerances. I have fitted k- line liners a long while ago but have no idea of how long the might last what say you
@jdsstegman
@jdsstegman Жыл бұрын
Thermal expansion. Doesn't matter who makes it, they all have to make things with this in mind.
@garrypritchard1658
@garrypritchard1658 Жыл бұрын
One good idea out of a thousand sounds about right
@scottkeller3987
@scottkeller3987 Жыл бұрын
Here in USA my machine shop won't bore engine without new piston on hand
@OtisFlint
@OtisFlint Жыл бұрын
That used to be standard (and i still would not have a shop bore a block without the pistons in hand), but the pistons are so accurate now that many shops will work from the spec sheet.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 Жыл бұрын
Yup my machinist is same way
@sicks6six
@sicks6six Жыл бұрын
the hottest part of any piston is around the exhaust port and this should have the most clearance, no piston is perfectly round, and rough surfaces are best to carry oil.
@TheBlibo
@TheBlibo Жыл бұрын
I am nearing the end of my working life now and I can't remember ever coming across a parallel aluminium piston, I may be wrong but I think the cast iron pistons used in the old 27hp Bedford engines might not have been tapered, so when is modern
@kyzercube
@kyzercube Жыл бұрын
@ 4:10 In the US we just call them air hammers ( you know from " jack hammers " but with air instead of electric that you jack a plug in an outlet 😄)
@Look_What_I_Did
@Look_What_I_Did Жыл бұрын
Nobody asked...
@kyzercube
@kyzercube Жыл бұрын
@@Look_What_I_Did This is yt comments. There is no " asking ", there's just comments and you just accept them. Cope.
@Look_What_I_Did
@Look_What_I_Did Жыл бұрын
@@kyzercube Awww... ameritards. The butt hurt is real when they are not the center of the universe.
@1magnit
@1magnit Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the difference between stock and forged pistons. Forged pistons require more than stock clearances so of course they're going to move side to side. That's because of the material used, they expand more and once up to temp should end up the same.
@getahanddown
@getahanddown Жыл бұрын
Yep forged vs stock piston clearance are two separate things and where you really want to pick the brain of someone who has experience with the same setup
@borismcfinnigan3430
@borismcfinnigan3430 Жыл бұрын
and depends what kind of forged piston....2618 or 4032 grow differently
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 Жыл бұрын
Piston skirt length is amazingly short these days, short buckets. Reduced power losses from friction I St. Assumption take it, or is that f'ked up thinking again? 🤪
@Pico-hq7ws
@Pico-hq7ws Жыл бұрын
Re. The "you've overboard it", if the to and fro wastes enough time to warrant it, perhaps consider adding a summary of your explanation to the invoice or delivery note?
@Pico-hq7ws
@Pico-hq7ws Жыл бұрын
Hate it when spellchecker makes you think I can't spell overbored!
@TheBlibo
@TheBlibo Жыл бұрын
I don't personally like setting a bore gauge in a micrometer I preferably use a setting ring which is a luxury if only measuring a few different cylinders
@Niftym50
@Niftym50 Жыл бұрын
Story starts at 9:30 for anyone wondering
@Look_What_I_Did
@Look_What_I_Did Жыл бұрын
I gave up. Turned the volume down and started reading comments.
@andyday4535
@andyday4535 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe people could be so uninformed regarding piston taper! The oldest engine I've rebuilt was a 1937 Villiers junior, and that had a tapered piston! I had to turn a piston down from +60 to +20 to fit the bore, which was unworn. No problem for my old Smart and Brown.
@dalejones3862
@dalejones3862 Жыл бұрын
Engine builders know best listen to them
@andrewbaker7548
@andrewbaker7548 Жыл бұрын
A bulb is something you put in the ground to grow. A lamp goes in a light 😊.
@johnjones4825
@johnjones4825 Жыл бұрын
I would imagine that you would have to be careful not to let the sizing ball be too much warmer or colder than the head and guide, ideally the same temp? With that very close tolerance, the size could be negatively affected?
@johnmaguire9305
@johnmaguire9305 Жыл бұрын
Either you need a policy of doing m/c block WITH pistons & rods installed, or make it very clear on the invoice where your liability ends.
@joncooke479
@joncooke479 Жыл бұрын
just can't believe that people won't get a minimal cut taken off a block and won't pay that bit more for a rebore to make it a belt and braices job if your going to spend big money. It's just false economy
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 Жыл бұрын
Only reaming (! sounds naughty) I've done is bronze outer bearing on classic Mini rear suspension trailing arms. There's a needle on the inner. Pump that grease in buddy.
@fatwalletboy2
@fatwalletboy2 8 ай бұрын
Interesting. My old pistons had a rock and it had me concerned but think it was just ring and bore wear now......
@paulkile9998
@paulkile9998 Жыл бұрын
Back in my youth when I was fooling around with MGs, I noticed the clearance when I rocked a piston...it never bothered me because I understood the rings would take up the slack, not to mention a cam ground piston was slightly ovoid to allow for heat expansion. Those customer complaints just tell me that a little knowledge on their part is a dangerous thing!
@dogpaw775
@dogpaw775 Жыл бұрын
How are those BB's for sizing the bronze valve guides any different material or tolerance than every day BB's, I think I'd sooner a regular BB was used and replaced often rather than silly £ BB supplied with kit; unless someone can tell me different?.
@johnbriggs3916
@johnbriggs3916 Жыл бұрын
They are probably selected from regular ones to be exactly the right size. The expense probably comes from checking thousands to find the correct one.
@dogpaw775
@dogpaw775 Жыл бұрын
really ?.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 Жыл бұрын
​@dogpaw775 i doubt that they are likely machined by a robot and scanned by computer to veryify. Cost comes from it being specialty machining. Custom equiptment etc. Regular BBs or ball bearings use for slingshots etc are never really held to much tolerance. For all i kno they are discarded bearing balls that didnt meat tolerence. That said THEY DO NOT make 1000s then hope to find one the right size. Thats insanity
@dogpaw775
@dogpaw775 Жыл бұрын
there's only one way to make BB's, thereafter it's QC and if you think any BB subject to high end QC is going to maintain its tolerances when being battered by a flat ended punch is any better than a bearing in your washing machine I'd say, well quite frankly I'd say b*llocks.
@peteb5343
@peteb5343 Жыл бұрын
I learnt something 😊
@Fubarpapa
@Fubarpapa Жыл бұрын
Is "thou" 0,001mm?
@bluemule3891
@bluemule3891 Жыл бұрын
Hi Lee, where to start 🤣 Hmmm why is there a ridge at the top of the cylinder, and how come the ring area doesn't have much wear. It's funny, I learned this when I was 11yr old from my shop teacher and my best friends Dad, you would think someone in their 20s, 30s, etc would read a book, yeah I said it read a stinking book. Anyway, a good teaching moment. Your guide reconditioning system is really nice with the pneumatic lock, I have seen systems that use a mini flex hone for final sizing. The VW 2L tdi engines have a horrible time with valve guides, in fact VW only sells heads and not the guides, and the aftermarket guides are worse than the factory, so anyway Deutschland Uber Alles Blue Mule NC USA
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 Жыл бұрын
Sleeved valve guides? This is a new one for me. Different. Bronze indium(?) something guides on AEG-163 classic Mini Cooper S, had fun and games with them. Had a couple with cracks inlet to exhaust valve seats. Only good as doorstops when that happens. But the later last castings were better. 12G940 much better too with slightly smaller exhaust valves, MG1300 mark 2 heads the tops.
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 Жыл бұрын
Maybe include a paper with a diagram explaining it. Give it to them when they drop off the engine and when they take it home.
@seriksson9721
@seriksson9721 Жыл бұрын
It is a very crazy design with a balance shaft before the oil pump. There will be unnecessary breakdowns and the going gets tough. I think there are those who remove the balance shaft.
@Ju1ian10001
@Ju1ian10001 Жыл бұрын
The later TSI engine or EA888 engines have a seperate balancer shaft driven by a chain (they are a chain driven engine, 3 yep 3 chains) but they kept the stupid ideas as the main water pump is driven via a belt from a balancer shaft, if you drop the belt when changing the water pump it's engine out and engine strip time, just crazy. The EA888 are found in 1.8 and 2.0 capacity's.
@seriksson9721
@seriksson9721 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ju1ian10001 The 1.9 TDI engines have a good design without balanceshaft, (some ?) 2.0 TDI have the cracy design.
@Ju1ian10001
@Ju1ian10001 Жыл бұрын
@@seriksson9721 The EA888 TSI is petrol not diesel and is solely a 16valve twin cam chain driven engine, very very different from the 1.9 and 2.0 TDI . I know the TDI well with 1.9 PD TDI being one of VW's best ever units.
@seriksson9721
@seriksson9721 Жыл бұрын
@@Ju1ian10001 I totally agree with you. I meant that even the diesel engines became worse in terms of durability, the idea with a balance shaft was probably good, but it causes problems in the long run. Thanks
@MegaReddevil71
@MegaReddevil71 Жыл бұрын
What's happened to old Heath Robinson he hasn't been mentioned for a while 😉 was hoping to see the ford/volvo engine being stripped hopefully next time
@festeringfesterer
@festeringfesterer Жыл бұрын
I think that nose cone on the track car would look awesome in carbon fibre effect
@1donniekak
@1donniekak Жыл бұрын
Tight guides in a performance engine will cause sticking valves. Loose is fast.
@julianpritchard2558
@julianpritchard2558 Жыл бұрын
Quite right about the clearance, piston to bore . Talking of bore(ing) , these adverts are getting beyond now , constantly butting in, and not even subjects that are relevant. 🤯
@CrazyCat229
@CrazyCat229 Жыл бұрын
The best example I can think of a tight fit engine is a full on f1 or other high output engine. Everything is so tight cold that you have to warm the block up before starting. You don't want your average built engine like this as most poeple dont even properly warm up their engine before romping on it anyhow.
@lukasboscher9674
@lukasboscher9674 Жыл бұрын
Electric motors are so wonderful.
@Ray-om5xt
@Ray-om5xt Жыл бұрын
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
@derekhobbs1102
@derekhobbs1102 Жыл бұрын
That's what my old boss used to say.
@55peterf
@55peterf Жыл бұрын
Always a problem when your.doing half the job and leaving the build to amateurs with little or no basic engineering knowledge. The guide inserts never knew this system existed a god send for th ultra rare stuff . The run through was a little hectic to try and fully understand but i got the gist of it in the end . Must be proven to be reliable and trouble free i guess but looked like a very thin walled split bushing guide and would have been concerned about it moving or dropping out if i didnt know they were proved anin use
@simonhill2254
@simonhill2254 Жыл бұрын
Interesting the easy way is too check the ring gaps if they are wrong you will be I know how to biuld an engine too
@SKEPGFX
@SKEPGFX Жыл бұрын
I’ve had customers in the past come to me for electrical work on their motorcycles, had one with a DT125, built a brand new loom for it. Fucker tried to kick it over with no oil and a fucked gasket, it blew up. Blamed my electrics for it 😂
@MrRedfreds
@MrRedfreds Жыл бұрын
That cylinder head looks like optimus prime 😅
@Trigger1992
@Trigger1992 Жыл бұрын
Toyota over engineering again 😂
@robertghorne8607
@robertghorne8607 Жыл бұрын
Called piston fit.
@srussert28
@srussert28 Жыл бұрын
They take their fingers and rock them from the top. Tell them to take a torch and bring the top of the piston to 1000ºf. Now take their fingers and try and rock from the top. If they have fingerprints and did not do this they are the customers to keep. If they don't have fingerprints... they were never going to build a good engine to begin with...
@davidrailton8588
@davidrailton8588 Жыл бұрын
Anyone building an engine that doesn’t know how to measure a piston shouldn’t be building the engine. Always use a feeler gauge as a check when getting cylinders bored.
@user-of9px7gg9e
@user-of9px7gg9e Жыл бұрын
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