Customers say their mobile home dreams were ruined by San Antonio business

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[@timeforchange6818]

Using the wrong gage wire for electric is not 'sub-par' work, it's lethal ignorance or negligence.

[@albertdominick140]

I say lethal ignorance, but because you can't live in those vehicles when you turn very old, you've no equity, you're homeless... we could had done the same, but why we didn't ,and instead built our credit with sacrifice & purchased a 250k property? because the property will back us up when we needed the most.. it's ok for camping but as a primary residence isn't even legal if you've children. at least buy a piece of land to leave it permanently when driving isn't an option... but still and all bad idea, and a waste of money... I've seen so many folks lamenting about doing this.... time ⏲ doesn't forgive...

[@timeforchange6818]

@@albertdominick140 There are millions who don't own a home. I live in a 36ft RV, 2 bedrooms; I love it and the lot rent is lowest a person can rent these days. You're ideas are so narrow minded; I'm thinking you've lived in a bubble most of your life.

[@treehuggerdeluxe5598]

It is CRIMINAL negligence.

[@raymondleggs5508]

Negligent homicide if the place caught fire and people died.

[@badactor3440]

More like criminal negligence. There would be children living on these buses.

[@wandererradio9751]

It's been challenging since Lonestar Skoolie took our money and destroyed our bus, so I'm very grateful for this story exposing this company.

[@suebethiantexas2475]

More power to you and other victims from this terrible management company. I hope you all get total restitution. My brother bought 4 buses and welded them together to make a house. Took years to finish. I know it's a lot of work

[@dragonfly111cute]

So sorry for your loss!!

[@7thswansong152]

Don't GIVE them all your money.

[@ididntseeaamvwiththissongs3472]

I hope this blows up and you and many others receive money and justice you deserve.

[@andyj7266]

Move to a cheaper state god ur stupid

[@jasonlovi8745]

This isn’t a professional, this is some guy who learned how to do things online and decided to open a business without proper training.

[@nothanks81]

Not even that, I would bet money you could hand him basic hand tools and he wouldn't have a clue what half of them are. probably hires day labors to do the shotty work lol.

[@TrevorBoughtABus]

As someone who is converting a bus into a tiny house with knowledge gathered from the internet, I don't think this guy is even doing that. Having a proper exit point for sewage doesn't require a modicum of knowledge--just a basic level of intelligence.

[@richardhenry1969]

I've seen this my whole life. This is a hustler that probably had a friend in the beginning that knew how to work. Then it usually goes he screws his partner over. Then hires junkies or criminals for next to nothing. In the meantime I bet he's never really worked ever.

[@magnuspitruzelli]

I learned a lot of stuff by just doing it (with proper and complete research). Basically I learned from repetition and yes from KZbin videos. BUT, I wouldn't ever let any work like this ever leave my shop.

[@genestarwind4610]

Welcome to deregulated capitalism.

[@dustinarmour6703]

I worked for one of the said contractors on these busses last year and i can for sure say the owner was a total cheapskate and prevented A LOT of quality work being done.

[@le7tfeet]

the ENTIRE point of getting a bus is because its DIY-able and significantly cheaper than an RV/Mobile home if you're going to spend 75-100k BUY AN RV

[@danasmith1899]

They're trying to look like you did it yourself, You know try to get a status that they don't deserve instead of I'm rich and have an RV

[@danasmith1899]

They're trying to look like you did it yourself, You know try to get a status that they don't deserve instead of I'm rich and have an RV

[@zakiramjan9822]

theyre are ruining it for us younger people who don't even have 20,000. building a skoolie for 40k used to be a lot now 100k is normal. its a joke, especially thanks to social media making it a fad.

[@standtall7646]

Good point!! Some people just want it built to their dream design. And, let's face it, you can't trust quality of building these days! Unless it's Tiffin, Newmar, etc.

[@risksrewardsrelics51]

Except RVs are made of wood and aluminum… ever seen one that’s been in a wreck? School buses are made of steel. Built to protect children.

[@markvitagliano7508]

This guy needs to pay each and every person back. He's a scam artist who got caught. It doesn't matter how he gets the money. After he gets done paying restitution he should go to state prison for larceny over 100k. Then he'll know what it's like to get screwed, literally.

[@MousesHouses]

It sounds like right now he is robbing Peter to pay Paul

[@moiseshernandez1065]

In a perfect world he should go to prison, but he is in America. Well maybe in Europe he will go directly to prison.

[@BlackGirlLovesAnime6]

His shift eyes are a tell tale sign. I hope he gets sued and sent to prison

[@weirdokiller123126]

"it doesn't matter how he gets the money" So you want him to scam more people in order to pay off the first people he scammed?

[@kaleidola]

@@weirdokiller123126 They’re saying it doesn’t matter how he scams, regardless the guy should be put in prison for scamming people

[@TropicalThunder21]

Why would you spend 100K on a bus conversion when you can literally buy a really nice 2020s 35 to 40 foot motorhome for just over half that, and then buy you a nice new economy car to tow behind it and boom there you go

[@BlairWytch74]

Fads and trends

[@scarface829]

It's their choice. It's their life. Let them be.

[@wc4658]

Hippy life they were chasing.

[@jimstewart5008]

I contacted lone Star and asked if they had qualified electrician, carpenters etc. The response I recieved was outrageous, nothing but attitude, the response was why are you asking that, we never had anyone ask before, lol. If that's not a red flag! The owner than wrote me and apologized for his young staff being unprofessional, lol a ditch effort to save face. I told him I have never come across a company that refused to tell me if they have qualified employees.

[@Samuelfish2k]

He wrote you an actual letter through the mail?

[@TDR-0484]

Cap

[@jimstewart5008]

@@Samuelfish2k no a message

[@deagle2yadome696]

@@TDR-0484 yeah this guy just made up this story for no reason/the meaningless clout tokens of 74 likes on a YT comment. You’re a special kind of special huh?

[@deagle2yadome696]

@@jimstewart5008 you should post the email/DM/message he sent you! curious if it’s low key passive aggressive and rude lol

[@USA__WILL]

It really sucks that they got scammed. The whole vanlife and living on the road isn't as glamorous as social media makes out to be. Better renting an RV when you need it.

[@sekou3758]

@Bruce Cole Why would they care about resale value????

[@upsidedownpeon9984]

@Bruce Cole Its not about resale, which it would actually have if it was fully done correctly. People that do this to their bus do not expect to get lots of money back from it they want to live in it.

[@giovannisocci8793]

@@sekou3758 Why wouldn t they? is the least they can do.

[@Kmax3000]

I got to agree with you Will.. my wife and I are 3 1/2 years into a nomadic life in a van. We’re happy with it and we have a good handle on what we are doing, and my work makes the lifestyle work, however we would recommend it only for about 1% of the people who actually think it’s a great idea. A lot of people get hopped up on Instagram and KZbin and think it’s all rainbows and roses, when there is a lot of discomfort and uncertainty that can be in the life.

[@sekou3758]

@@giovannisocci8793 When you’re doing custom work like this you can’t expect to have good resale value…..

[@HalcyonDaze33]

Investigative journalism is a beautiful thing! Good job warning the community and helping these folks out!

[@youmang]

Agreed. Can you guys cover the money going to Ukraine next, I’m sure they can uncover some bombshells

[@no1nderwhy]

Ditto!

[@elijahmyers5069]

Now they need to investigate the government

[@youmang]

Investigate pelosi for insider trading. Investigate where all the ukr money is going

[@MRR-qv3bw]

Just so everyone understands! These victims will literally have to pay someone simply to rip EVERYTHING out just to verify no fire hazards are hidden before the second build can start!

[@jonboone5846]

I was going to say that , have to strip it down to bare

[@chrisfoxwell4128]

From the videos I've seen they don't really have to rip anything but more just push them aside because it's likely not secured that well.

[@thewiseguy3529]

It's called a "botched job" and yes it has to be redone. Nothing they did can be used. Everything basically has to go in the trash. Nothing's cut right. It's just a big mess.. The buses are probably trash now too. Because they ain't even worth putting that money into the 1st time. There will be no 2nd time. Bet on that one.

[@thepotatoofheaven]

are they gonna sue the og company who did it bad?

[@priestesslucy3299]

On the plus side, demo is actually easier than construction. They could totally take it out themselves rather than pay if they have the time

[@capodadon1854]

If he says that he’s not responsible for that contractors work then he’s not genuine in owning up to his mistakes!!!! The guy worked for YOU SO HES AN EXTENSION OF YOU AND YOUR COMPANY!!!!!

[@jessiefrye3045]

Exactly. Everything we subbed out, was understood, it would be inspected 1/3, 2/3 and upon completion. If it was not up to our standards, we would fix it at THEIR EXPENSE. 19 years in business never had a complaint. Contractors and Banks loved us.

[@3613jeremy]

There's no doubt after the first bus he would've known this crap where company owners are claiming a employee is the reason for their issues truly confuses me I've never known that to be the case

[@Wildstar40]

He took the money. He is responsible. Jail time and a few good beatings will show him the error of his ways.

[@mariannespires892]

He's responsible for every contractor that he engages.

[@darkmode867]

Never trust people who have to contract out work. If you own a business you should have what you need who you need on site plain and simple. Can't do that then you shouldn't be doing it.

[@suebethiantexas2475]

Due to the large amount I don't know why he wasn't filed on in civil court

[@trudikrupocki3023]

He has civil suits pending. Do you think he has over a million in the bank to pay us all back???

[@jaybee5832]

Only takes one. But he can close business & not pay anyone.

[@ToyoteroMundial]

@@jaybee5832 What about criminal Court?

[@Samuelfish2k]

What about Judge Judy?

[@nuttysquirrel8816]

So if enough people file law suits against him, could the mounting judgements drive his company into bankruptcy?

[@xaviercast970]

It's much cheaper and easier to just buy a good condition 30 ft RV. I bought my 2018 35 ft RV in great condition from a New Mexico RV dealer lot for $68,675. I love it. After 7 years of use, everything still works perfectly. Treat her right and your RV will make you and your family happy.

[@xaviercast970]

Btw I also saw a converted school bus in the lot in perfect working condition and fully furnished for $65.990 and boy was I tempted to buy it. But I made my choice and I am glad I did.

[@ScarabChris]

Agreed. Hearing about an old school bus conversion costing $100K is nuts. I'm sure that doesn't count the price of buying the old school bus either. But they are cheap because school districts dump them after several years of use and abuse. You can buy a nice used 35-38 foot Class A (bus style) for less than 100K and it will look like a palace inside and have slide outs which will double the interior space when your parked. My good friend bought a 2010 36 foot Bounder which is a class A and front engine built on the Ford truck chassis with a Triton V10. It's beautiful and it's like brand new inside. He paid like $65K and that was about 8 years ago.

[@ScarabChris]

This converted school bus thing must be trend, kind of like buying a 1960's VW bus and spending $80K restoring it when you can buy a slightly used custom conversion van with all the luxuries of a private jet for a lot less.

[@andrewut7ya511]

I cant imagine how people get away with this multiple times. The guilt would be heavy.

[@clashtwo5066]

They aren’t people, they’re literal demons on Earth here to harm others.

[@fatonyalmitchell3281]

They don't feel any Guilt because they don't have any CHARACTER and Lack Morals ‼️🤷

[@andrewut7ya511]

@@fatonyalmitchell3281 idk, i think they do the scam for lack of morals, but inside they have to know its wrong. They dont do the right thing but surely they know what the right thing is. I guess there is people who dont care about the guilt but its hard to imagine. Not hard to imagine scamming but the part about not letting it bother you.

[@fatonyalmitchell3281]

@@andrewut7ya511 I definitely understand your gripe ‼️I have a special needs son and im trying to do something similar to This for vacation ETC but Yess definitely piss me off ‼️ and I have fought several people about mis treating people ugh 😩 I can't stand it ‼️ However hopefully when you know better u do better ‼️.... 😊

[@Luckingsworth]

I would feel zedo guilt ripping a moron willing to pay $100k for a school bus build.

[@user-cs3zs6jn1d]

When you hire a company to build something,repair, or any contracted job you don't pay in advance. That's the real issue here. Why would anyone think that's ok.

[@francisformlyknownasc.i.a2128]

Exactly. People who are very unaware unfortunately get got. You know there’s shady contractors everywhere that prey on the weak.

[@Alvan81]

Sad but true.

[@sw6188]

It's the same as people who deposit money to strangers' accounts on Facebook and wait for their goods to arrive, only to not get them then be blocked by the seller. Cash on pickup is the only way to go. Same with a bus conversion. Let them do the work and when it's done, call the owner and they'll go pay for it and take it away. If it's not done, or not done properly, no pay.

[@jdbjoshua]

It's not true, customer should have to pay something down, you just need to make sure you're working with a reputable company

[@user-cs3zs6jn1d]

@@jdbjoshua i have never payed any kind of contractors anything in advance. I can understand a down payment on a vehicle or a house,but the amount these people are paying is ridiculous.

[@kinyutaka]

Why the hell would you pay $100,000 to live in a bus? Take the money and put it for a huge down payment on a real house.

[@TMe-cs7kp]

Retardation

[@WhoaBo]

Because rich liberals are idiots. There's your answer.

[@captainsaveahoe1843]

You are missing the point of a bus. When hell breaks loose, you can't pick up your house or roll it away at 65mph. This is intended to do what houses do not.. If they wanted to pay the same amount for a house to then owe payments on for their whole lives that's a whole separate issue. These people obviously overpaid, this can be done in half the money they put up. However the idea is to avoid a house.

[@TMe-cs7kp]

@@captainsaveahoe1843 I bought a real nice Georgia boy class A with slide outs for under $30,000. This thing is loaded past everything that bus will ever be. I'm allowed in every campground what's that bus never be. People that try to convert some stupid bus specially with all that money is whacked in the head retarded.

[@dilutesnow3028]

@@captainsaveahoe1843 I don't think you're easily getting new tires, parts, or gas if hell breaks loose either....

[@eddieco]

That guy looks and sounds like a snake oil salesman.

[@MyNathanking]

4:14: Any business that blames its shoddy work on another party is an immediate red flag because the very idea is for a business to have control over its choice of contractors. In addition, the idea of someone having a business is that they will be their own everything --- not contract the work out to a bunch of multiple parties.

[@twally87]

I wouldn't agree with your last statement. Not every business has to be 100% vertically integrated. However, depending on your written agreements with a third party to procure material and services, that third party may be held liable for contractually negligent work. The principal contractor-- the "schoolie renovation" business in this case-- has the duty to ensure their contracts appropriately manage liabilities. If the business owner weren't a complete fraud-- which, he is-- his contracts with these blamed third parties would have his wronged customers made whole, unless he decided to bear the risk of those contractors himself.

[@MyNathanking]

@@twally87 Well, yes, I can see that the control issue of businesses is somewhat subjective and gray. But it's still a valid question to bring up in a situation like this.

[@twally87]

@@MyNathanking the control issue of THIS particular business appears subjective and gray. But the point I made in my above comment is that in a good business that practices legitimately, there is NO subjectivity or gray area about who is responsible for mistakes and negligent work. However, in a just society, the customer is never responsible for it.

[@mrsinister6687]

The company should be renamed “Fyre Festival Fabricators.”

[@michaelpeel9347]

Man that guy just gives off some slick snake oil saleman vibes, "Try my snake oil it cures all has vitamins minerals mercury and red flannel" - 1mil ways to die in the west (paraphrased) As a skoolie owner I am sorry to hear this has befallen other skoolie folks, I hope you get something back but I won't suggest you hold your breath. Glad I did not involve others in my build.

[@Djsj1313]

This kinda stuff happens way to much in San Antonio and that guy is a hell of a tap dancer lol

[@standtall7646]

Yes! I noticed the tap dancing shoes he was sporting 🤣

[@robertschwartzman195]

This owner should face 25 years in prison for causing close to 2 Million dollars damage.

[@austinformedude]

Honestly thats what they get for jumping on the bus conversion trend. The whole POINT is to do it yourself - Cheap. Not to pay someone close to a 100 grand so you can be trendy. Rich people always have to ruin it for everyone LOL

[@rogernormanjr4315]

This actually happened to us… I am a 61 year old United States Veteran, and I lost my house… So I bought an older motor home… My disabled wife, and I had planned to live in it… Washington State, decided that recreational vehicle parks, were not like mobile home parks, despite being primarily monthly tenancies, they decided to classify their residences as being transient, stripping them of rights, and they no longer have residences, or even protections, under Washington State laws… And, they are being pushed out of their long term tenancies, and into homelessness…

[@Unkn0wnv1rus]

This is not the same

[@rogernormanjr4315]

@@Unkn0wnv1rus no, but it is related to the idea of people being in these older vehicles… How did you not see the connection, or even the caution, being expressed?

[@JK360noscope]

Washington State has homestead law. You can homestead your RV/Truck, but you need to contact the county you are homesteading your RV/Boat/Truck in. Recent lawsuit said they cannot tow/forcibly sell these items as they are a home

[@wilfdarr]

Anyone who chooses to live in a state like California, New York, or Washington, can't be surprised when something like this happens: you were happy to pay taxes to support a regime like that as long as you weren't on the receiving end, don't complain now that you are!

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@wilfdarr A lot of us are voting against that garbage. There's a reason Washington is as close to free as it is. All the farmers, hunters and outdoors people are doing their best to minimize that garbage. Rather than pushing good people to move out, it would be better for a lot of good people to move in and steer things in the right direction. Cali is a lost cause though lol

[@georgemcfly1205]

"We gave him $75,000". Just buy a damn RV for half of that

[@David53D]

That's a lot of money putting down before seeing any results.

[@mikefuentes2657]

Being trendy cost you you're dreams. Buy a truck that can pull a travel trailer you might spend 75K$. It will be all brand new and under warranty.

[@LupusRex-hf2rl]

At least this guy talks to the media. They didn't even talk to the supposed happy customer list before running story. Horrible journalism.

[@jefffuhrman7903]

I’m doing a van conversion right now and fortunately I have good friends that are highly skilled who will be doing the work. I was an electrician for twenty plus years and will be doing my own wiring for peace of mind. I’ve seen a lot of really nice builds that are extremely well done but you have to do your research before handling over that amount of cash. There is no excuse to be taken this way in the age of internet and social media. You literally have access to thousands of people who can share their experiences with builders and if you don’t do that well. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Eric-xh9ee]

Just don't use wire nuts. I saw that on a friend's vehicle that he had an electrician out in the audio system but vehicles experience a lot of vibration so you need to use other techniques such as soldering and using heat shrink tubing to bond wires.

[@Riverrockphotos]

Its great if you know an Electrician. But I'm not even an electrician and I know 12ga wire is way to small for 30 amps. Thats why 30amp plugs are diffrent to allow for the larger wire.

[@northwestmechanic8991]

Your customers "destroyed" your name?? No, YOU destroyed your own name.

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

Maybe buy a ready to go rv, not sure why people think converting a school bus into a living facility is a better option than buying something that's already done that was made for that

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

@@thewiseguy3529 Can't imagine any school bus is safe, never understood why they don't have seatbelts either for the kids when they are working as school buses, modern safety has advanced hugely

[@highway75]

I'm surprised that someone hasn't put the owner of Lone Star up against the wall and dispatched him. So many people taken to the cleaners by these people.

[@MyNathanking]

Dispatch him? Do even better by firebombing the business and burning the whole place down --- of course at night so that nobody is in the building when it happens.

[@mysmirandam.6618]

Yup

[@xlnuniex]

“There’s like no windshield whatsoever… Was the guy driving like that” “Yeah and it fell in on him”

[@devadethereal6301]

That's why y'all need to get word out. Take these scam businesses to court. Give bad reviews on every platform online. Take it to social media. Make sure potential future customers don't get ripped off too. Put them out of business. It shouldn't have taken over 20 customers before someone FINALLY put what this guy did out there for everyone to see.

[@raisedTwIsTeD]

You know you can by a brand new one from a factory for the same price, and they're actually really nice inside.

[@brian09able]

as soon as he asked to repeat the question I knew he was going to lie. he was buying time to come up with something to say. glad this came out.

[@tbirdracefan]

All the safety issues and shoddy work aside, If you think spending 75-100 thousand for pallet wood furnishings and a Home depot generator welded to the back bumper of a school bus is going to impress me, your wrong.

[@Attmay]

Says the guy who confused you’re and your.

[@RoadTripEddie]

Wow no accountability, he claims the customers (who were robbed) destroyed his business. WHAT ? His inferior unchecked unskilled employee(s) destroyed his business.

[@stevep8490]

First red flag was wanting to 100k for a converted bus.... when you can definitely get some sort of factory made rv for similar pricing

[@nuttysquirrel8816]

Honest to Pete! Is there anything left in America that's not a rip off or financial pit fall? People work hard and save for the better part of their lives only to have their savings stolen be some shyster.

[@priestesslucy3299]

Probably not. I know I can't find a fair price to save my life in a certain industry for something my grandmother's mobile home needs. I'm having to learn to do it myself just so she doesn't get ripped off

[@Rowrin]

I've seen startups do the same thing in the software development field. They run low on money, so they approach new investors with the promise of new features and use that money to pay for the features they're behind on. Of course they then run out of money to implement the new investor's features so they promise newer features to find new investors, rinse and repeat... He didn't "take too many customers", he ran out of money or went over budget on previous commissions so he accepted new commissions for more funding, falling further behind to where every possible corner needed to be cut and every shady shortcut taken.

[@anndudley9800]

Robbing Peter to pay Paul

[@mosestheprophet4162]

I mean, at least he did the interview and claims he will fix it or pay them back. I hope nobody else goes to this guy. With all these mad customers, I’m surprised this guy is not in the hospital. I believe people need to do piece by piece with their builds instead of giving them $80,000 for a complete build. If they do the first job good, then off to the next one.

[@crayfish7542]

One thing I've Discovered is that you Never Give any one the Full amount " Up-Front " ! That's the way it works with Building contractors on Remodels and Even on some Other businesses !

[@standtall7646]

As a contractor, I never asked for final payment until work is complete and customer is satisfied!

[@richardbause2453]

As a contractor, I make a list of the materials that I need and give it to the owner. They become the responsible party to supply what I need. Weather it's a flat rate per hour or completely completed job, I don't get paid until it's done. Everyone is happy.

[@deerhunter7482]

Don’t hold your breath on this man ! This scammer knows little and is going to someday get his due .

[@Rick-qf5de]

He took the money and ran.... He's not even there anymore....

[@richardsmith8342]

100k for a schoolie? Why didnt they go get a land yaught for that money. I bought one at an auction for 55k. Has a washer and dryer and a garage for the Harley.

[@jaybee5832]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Exactly!!!

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Because an RV won't be there in 10 years. Extremely cheaply made. I went to the RV show and I was all over them. I saw nothing I'd even pay 10k for.

[@jaybee5832]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I have three of them all 10 years +. Nothing lasts without maintenance.

[@baffledbybullshit805]

Just cuz you have money doesn't excuse checking out a company and previous customers ahead of time. Not blaming the customers, but can't trust anybody with that kind of money.

[@EzeePosseTV]

So, if you win the lottery or save up your cash to have "that kind of money" then we should no longer "trust" you either then? .. Going by your logic!

[@baffledbybullshit805]

@@EzeePosseTV you didn't listen. What I said was if you have good money that does not mean you automatically trust a company that takes it. Hello.

[@itsmeterri]

Smooth talker. That's what he is.

[@zander88990]

Scammer plain and simple. He knows nothing about what he claims he does. Now he has been caught hand clearly has no answers.

[@Kmax3000]

My BS radar would’ve been going off if someone told me a school bus conversion could be done in 6 to 8 weeks… From my 20 years in construction/electrical, van and trailer building experience, raising a bus roof and up fitting it for a full-time living would take one man about a full year to do if you are building it properly.. Sad there are so many conmen out there; I feel bad for everyone who has had their future dreams wrecked by such people!

[@moto5642]

A year? Dude youre smoking crack

[@Senorbussenstien]

Nah, i did mine in about 600 hours. 3-4 months would be realistic. Definitely not 6-8 weeks though

[@Robert08010]

"not gonna leave nobody high and dry". Wow... Now there's a slip of the tongue that is very telling.

[@caroljackson4093]

Sorry for those who were negatively impacted, but he appears shiesty from first glance. He’s a fast talking, stumbling over his words con artist. From the sounds of it, he’s scammed folks combined out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. He deserves jail time for putting people lives a risk.

[@e.a.r.9155]

*No honest person on Planet Earth would continue to operate After this kind of performance.*

[@tomlangford5251]

Do not pay them anything until the vendor completes the job in a satisfactory manner. Large up front payments are what scammers depend on.

[@drewmurray2583]

Up here, flood vehicles can never be registered again. Flood/fire = parts only

[@colbyh.4933]

It’s hard to feel sorry, why you would want a bus conversion but not be knowledgeable enough to do this yourself is already a questionable lapse in judgement.

[@TheKevin50cal]

Why would you want a house, without the knowledge to build it yourself?

[@user-ys8bb2ts7s]

Pots looks like the slimy quest giver

[@frankmagri4524]

and he makes you sign paperwork that says you cannot complain about him on social media

[@brentmcmillan519]

Looks like a case of More Dollars than Sense.

[@KINGTHEBEAST]

If people weren't so lazy and did things themselves this kind of crap wouldn't happen

[@richardherrington2852]

There are numerous books on how to turn a school bus into a mobile home. Buy the books, read them and do the work yourself.

[@leaht-pu1tm]

Why hasn't the BBB or State Attorney General ? Lock the guy up

[@Censoredbyfscists]

He donates to the democrat party I assume.

[@JayL781]

You know I was actually thinking about starting a business doing this. it kills me to think about this guy taking people's money and giving them garbage what a sad story and what a hard thing to live through 😤

[@matthewcaughey8898]

The moral here is do it right the first time and if it takes longer to do it right then so be it

[@simp2234]

Maybe that murica dream

[@johnhufnagel]

All I can say is, build one, live in it for at least a couple months yourself, and if it's viable, sell it. then do that at least 3 more times. You should have most of the major bugs worked out. Don't take people's money before a build, and don't do "custom" builds. Build the same thing every time, so you get good at it. If what you have isn't what people want, then they're not your customer. Accept you can't sell to everyone, only sell to ones that want what you make and how you make it, and everyone will be happier in the end.

[@laurenhalkiotis853]

To keep face, the busses he has promised to complete, he shld be either inviting them to visit regularly in production stages to show things are actually being completed, or offer photos to show stage. If he won’t - a judge should order it, so he can’t keep stringing clients a long. Once a client has lost trust in their contractor, of course they are going to be irate and skeptical.

[@erickpacheco1623]

Seeing this kills me, Im a trucker and would love to Retire remodeling busses, doing condo conversions of all kinds...ID break even or come out of pocket to make it more than right just to see the smile on Families Faces and most of all the word of mouth on my integrity......I hope those Families got some of their money back at the least..

[@jellyfish1433]

This is why you have to be super careful with who you send off your stuff too, even if it isn’t something as expensive as a bus. I’m big into the knife community, and a big then with that is sharpening/repair services that have obviously been done by someone who doesn’t truly know what they are working on. People will do whatever they can to make a quick buck, even if it screws others over.

[@jeffbrownstain]

The American Dream wouldn't have it any other way.

[@racerx9223]

This is what happens when young people have money before skills, the story may be very different but from the feel I got, he had a vision and bank account. He probably hired individuals to do the work for him and acted more as a facilitator bringing parts together to try to do complete builds and it got out of hand. If he had the skills needed he could look over everything himself, but I have a feeling alot is missing to have a good functional business. Hard to tell with limited info though.

[@mvjr7758]

Have to agree, hes like a facilitator. Just go out & hire up cheap labor & collect the sales at end. Story was scary because mix match parts / wiring and stuff not secured. I would think, an inspector should have to look over the work too.

[@DebSherr]

Just because someone says they can do something it doesn't mean they can! Do your homework before you hand over your money to a stranger. If the 20 people who were taken in had looked online for reviews, they may have saved themselves the troubles.

[@thomasmoser7382]

you just gotta love people that think "oh i just throw a ton of money at it and get my bus build by someone else", these kind of people end up hopelessly lost on the side of the road because their bus broke down in the middle of nowhere (wich is going to happen sooner or later) and they have no clue how to fix it. if you want to live such a lifestyle you better learn quick how to do things on your own. you might think i'm a bad person for saying this but i'm glad that not everyone can just buy themselfs in without doing actual work on their bus themselfs.

[@morrisstewart7586]

Never pay more than 20% upfront to any contractor. I run a small business, and I never ask for more than 20% to cover materials.

[@thewiseguy3529]

No. No . No..... 50% is a standard deposit on automotive work. Other %50 comes when the job is complete 💯. %20 doesn't get you in the door

[@shikamaru281281]

Disregarding the weird idea of living on the road like a van-hobo, What dingus gives someone 75k without knowing any of their previous work? Simple case of a bad choice.

[@shadowwolf9329]

Old school busses can make good additional storage space or extra bed rooms

[@BJSmith-ll3uw]

This is a classic case of never paying for a service before it is performed. All these folks crying got a lesson they won't forget. I'm not saying the company shouldn't be held accountable. I'm saying it's hard to feel sorry for a fool.

[@HelloKittySGTC]

This really adds to the housing crisis america is experiencing. And how the establishing want to fix people to the same spot, being forced into a mortage or rent lock.

[@lagunamusic7686]

I hope you all get justice and reimbursed.

[@dazedvirgo5828]

Just too much money for dummies. Let's convert a school bus, rather than just buy a real one

[@simplyclean4907]

If this dude is the best school bus maker in town I wonder how the bad ones are

[@proudconservative2158]

I honestly can’t stand people like this. And from experience I find this happens a lot even with contractors who come to do work on the house to do floors or painting etc . If you live in a decent neighborhood they automatically charge you more thinking you’re rich and then do a half assed job and leave a mess is extremely annoying

[@ConnorUbetcha]

Atleast he took some responsibility, it’s hard to tell if he’s just trying to cover his a** or if he’s actually telling the truth because of that

[@peanutbutterdijonnaise]

That business owner talks like a straight up corrupt politician

[@funnyfarm5555]

I feel sorry for these customers. That type of build should fall under the state building contractors board; at least here in our state they have to have a license, post a $100,000 bond and customers can file complaints directly with the contractors board. That guy definitely fits the saying; If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance then baffle them with bull$hit. You can tell he is lying ; his mouth was open.

[@cdb5961]

It's sad that these people got swindled but they were throwing their money away no matter the outcome.

[@lovepeace5845]

“We’re NOT going to leave NOBODY high and dry.” He’s admitted intending to leave people ‘high and dry’. Customers, believe him. He was just honest. Listen. You deserve to lose money if you’re too stupid to work out what he said.

[@tifa4034]

Do you speak English. "We're not going to leave nobody high and dry" means they will not leave anybody high and dry. Not admitting to anything.

[@isitmeeTV]

People get mad at regulations. Yea is sucks paying fees and waiting longer but when it comes to Auto, electrical work, foundation etc it saves lives.

[@jnicoulakos]

This is the reason why we ask everything to be done with a contract.

[@workingcountry1776]

Point of a school bus conversion is to do it yourself and save alot of money vs a Winnebago

[@OldTimerGarden]

My generation believed in a quality product or service will gain wealth. Newer generation believe that scamming people is the way to wealth.

[@calvinthedestroyer]

I wonder if the 20 upset customers are all of the customers he's ever had!?

[@generalwrecking]

This story gets better every 30 seconds!! So you BOUGHT a vehicle and DID NOT PULL A CARFAX ???? This younger generation is LOST

[@daniellewis2133]

I lived in a school bus turned R.V. back in the early 90s.

[@jebby6285]

This is ridiculous though, people that do conversions do it to save money and usually can't afford $100,000 conversions. If you have that kind of money don't be stupid with it, you could buy an amazing RV better than a house with that type of money and have more room than the bus and less of a hassle.

[@stevenwinterhill7576]

Car camping is so much fun and adventurous!

[@loafandjug321]

1:31 It's funny how they got a 2nd opinion AFTER they paid $75k. Fools

[@ant-1382]

Just goes to show that one has to exorcise due diligence when making a large purchase like this. Start with references, check with B.B.B., and of course legal contracts, and don't part with large sums of cash upfront.

[@doughesson]

Industrial Arts students (shop class) are doing the job for a grade so they will be conscientious about doing the job properly the first time. That guy kept changing his story so he knows damn well that he was lying about doing the wrong thing.

[@The-sn7no]

The guy is a scammer and deserves prison.

[@bigwill9421]

I Hope He's No Longer In Business.

[@anthonymorris8891]

This guy should start flipping nickles in a dark alley. You can see it in his eyes during the interview, he feels no guilt or remorse for screwing these people over

[@kurtdowney1489]

Dam this is beyond criminal.

[@tanguman2]

With gas prices, that trend is gonna stop quick

[@lchjr]

3 words: class action lawsuit.