Cutting Oak Frame Braces Sunday Update

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[@NorfolkRed]

Andy,I wouldn't worry about the thumbs down mate, there are too many people on here who appreciate what you do and show us to worry about them.They are probably jealous of the workshop you have and see it as a way of getting back at you. You keep up the good work, it certainly is appreciated by me and many others.Best wishes,Mark.

[@ManorWood]

your right :) and I have so many nice and positive followers .. Cheers

[@HybridWoodworks]

Nice work. I coated my machines with metal glanz while in storage for a year. The one area I missed was solid rust. Felt like 80 grit paper. There was a razor sharp line on the surface where there was metal glanz and where I had missed. Left me with no doubts as to if it works. Night and day difference. And yeah, the super gleit rocks as well. Appreciate you taking the time to share videos. It’s great to see people’s workflows who have shops similar to mine. The techniques you use are not widely used or shown in the US (at least by the hobbyists who upload).

[@ManorWood]

Thank you . Its funny as sometimes Felder get bad press (price's / salesman / etc...) but there stuff is just so good and the extras on the web store are the are the same quality.

[@myatix1]

Seriously nice workshop! Great work and thanks for the videos

[@mauriceryton]

So important to keep all the tools in top condition. I use a cleaner then a WD40 soak and wipe off and then apply wax and polish the surfaces. It makes cutting so much easier

[@ManorWood]

100% .. see if you can get some super glide it is so good. - uk.feldershop.com/en/Workshop/Cleaning-and-maintenance/FELDER-Super-Glide.html?listtype=search&searchparam=super%20

[@robinhorton6625]

Thanks for that, we dont often think of the cleaning side of using a workshop, and the fact that its not all the pretty sort of work you have to take on to keep a shop going.

[@ManorWood]

Cheers Robin, I thought I should show a little behind the scenes (shame i didn't get the cast bad clean up on film) if you are working on lovey small item in a big - ish shop with big machine it is so nice/clean and easy tbh .. but when you start on the big stuff its really is all about dealing with the saw dust /weight /blades / mes you name it .. its also very easy to edit a video and make it look so clean and easy .. haha

[@Bill.L.Carroll]

That certainly was a heavy duty job, with some beast machines to do the job with ease👌 Impressive how much pride you take not only in your work, but also your tools, fantastic ethics, mate👍

[@ManorWood]

Hey Bill, I always look forward you FB .. Cheers mate!

[@theroboticscodedepot7736]

That may have been tough to work with but that wood is going to look amazing when you are finished.

[@haleccles1971]

Great video and really useful about the cleaners and Polish's. Waiting for delivery of my Hammer A3 410 planer/thicknesser I'll add some of the cleaners after your video - thanks.

[@grahamparsons6620]

Nice job mate, heavy work including the clean up, I know working with green iron bark over here can leave everything looking black including yourself.👍👍👍

[@ManorWood]

Cheers and Spot on ! what a mess

[@BSCGDC]

Great video, excellent work. It looked like really hard work, I would need a couple ibuprofen after that job.

[@ManorWood]

Cheers! yes it really was hard going even with the big machines .. took around 10 hours ! but they look great and my client was so happy :)

[@normanboyes4983]

Great job.👍

[@bollox57]

Hey there, I’m new to your channel, great work, and that’s some workshop you have.🇮🇪

[@ManorWood]

Welcome .. and thank you ...

[@markarmstrong2592]

Good job that was a lot of repetative work and a headache cleaning up at the end

[@oneshotme]

Enjoyed and thumbs up

[@SirBenJamin_]

That sliding saw is a thing of beauty. If I had one, I would never leave the shop. Btw, doesn't all the crap get inside the saw too? and cause rust etc?

[@ManorWood]

I it lovely .. I clean the inside as well .! but its only the cast iron that really suffers from the green (wet oak) other than the top its just saw dust really ..:)

[@jamiemacneil1422]

Great job! I have recently opened up my own carpentry shop and was curious if you include hours, consumables and anything else with regards to the clean up in the end price to the customer?

[@ManorWood]

I try to for sure . bandsaw blades / Cutter / Clean up .. but you also have to be competitive, when it goes well you make a little more when you snap a blade or make a mistake you make less :( ... happy days

[@jamiemacneil1422]

@@ManorWood thanks for the reply, keeping competitive is exactly why I asked the question. I tend to dismiss these tasks as chargeable out of fear of losing a job as every Tom, dick and harry overlook these moments in there final quote. The fact you have such a fantastic set-up in such a competitive market says it all really. Thanks for inspiring!

[@Frank-bh3cm]

Please excuse my ignorance but why is this timber cut green? Would there be less cleanup work if the oak was kiln dried first?

[@ManorWood]

Main reason is the timber frame buildings here in the UK are all constructed green oak they shrink and tight on the joints are easier to cut and handle and work with just happens at my shop is not sound for green oak therefore whenever I use it there is a cleanup

[@gary24752]

Are there structural advantages to cutting the tenon centered on the brace rather than an offset tenon?

[@ManorWood]

There big tenons, so good to keep the massive mortises never the center in the posts

[@philstevens9914]

I can't understand why so much oak is used for this. It is an open pore wood and gives up moisture over time. Joints open up and then it looks ugly and can be a structural issue. Best wood for this if you can get it is white cedar. It resists insects and does not rot, plus it gives up little moisture over time = more stable.

[@ManorWood]

Oak has been used for buildings in the Uk for 1000+ years , and lots of the Manor House’s etc are still standing Lol

[@philstevens9914]

@@ManorWood I get it. I am a Brit living in the US. I know a post and beam building company. He showed m a house that was built out of green oak and all the joints had opened up. I knew from the owner that white cedar is a better material to build from and I say again: 1) Won't rot, 2) insects don't eat it and 3) you were bitching about how nasty this stuff was on your Felder machines (I own several Felder machines myself) and so it is easier on the equipment to work with. So, in closing I was really making these points and wondering if white cedar is available in the UK?

[@jamespremo1]

Excellent video Andy. I am going to be working with rough cut full 4x8x10 foot cedar beams and cutting somewhat detailed radius on the ends. Yes my tool junkie friend, I bought a new Festool Trion jigsaw to cut the 4 inch thick radius at the ends. Do you have any opinion as to the Trion or the Carvex?

[@ManorWood]

Cheers James.. I haven't used Trion but only hear good things from other KZbin wood workers.. I have a Carvex 18v I love the way it handles deep and cuts and curves it keep a very straight edge .. one down side the stop start button if a nightmare to use with one hand..

[@motosnape]

I have the Carvex 240V. I’m happy with it, but I’d say that it’s one of the least innovative/pioneering tools produced by Festool. It does seem to have quite a bad rep, with people who usually love Festool, not being happy with the Carvex. From what I can figure out, it’s a question of not setting the blade guide properly which then upsets the user because the machine doesn’t perform as it should.

[@jamespremo1]

I saved $160 by going with the Trion. Couldn't see that much of a upgrade in the Carvex. The light, brushless motor and cordless options are spot on though.I am usually always go cordless but have marathon cutting to do. Thank you for your opinion.

[@VKMilling]

man, I do not envy you. I saw white oak all the time and work with green white/red oak regularly. The cleanup of that and anything pine just destroys me.

[@ManorWood]

Its was a pain but I love the smell of oak for the next 3/4 day on the shop :)

[@VKMilling]

@@ManorWood White oak, yes. Red oak, not so much lol.

[@user-kc1vt7id6m]

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