Cuttings Failed. What Now?

[@flipflapulous6851]

This makes me feel ALOT better about the few cuttings that I have that didn't root. Only one Hibiscus species had 3/8 not take (originally did 3 species of Hibiscus and 1 Rose) and my rose cuttings have 2/8 not root. This has been the most successful round of cuttings I have attempted. You certainly have the best channel on KZbin for teaching in a clear and detailed fashion that actually produces results. I'm very grateful to have come across you as I have learned so much and continue to do so. Thank you so much for all you do!

[@quercophilia]

Thanks for this"failure" video. Much appreciated so we get a more realistic sense of plant propagation results

[@lorip2109]

Sometimes I feel like a mad scientist when it comes to cuttings. I’ve had some take and some fail in the same pot - beside each other?! Thank you Jason for sharing the possibilities of why some do and some don’t and if only one takes, I do a little dance of joy!

[@JasperKlijndijk]

its about percentages, by changings imputs you change your rates.

[@Sue-ec6un]

Good info. Good experiment. Looking forward to your results.

[@briankepner7569]

Thank you for sharing all your hard work. You got me through the pandemic and I learned an awful lot. Sorry to hear that there is a failure in propagation

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks Brian. I don't fuss over losing cuttings. It's the price of an education

[@briankepner7569]

From your instructions I was able to get cuttings of a rare Mexican Highlands cactus tree I could send you a picture if you like but it's still only about 14 in tall. The base is turning brown and I was told that's natural. When the tree becomes about 10 ft it starts having a change in its exterior that looks like hard feathers. That's what I saw in the mature plant The cuttings aren't even close to this. The person who gave me the cutting said that they are nearly extinct or are extinct where they came from and that there used to be forests of them about 20 ft tall. But she said a return visit a few years ago before the pandemic she couldn't find one so the only one I know of used to exist in a local nursery but she passed on and closed and the plant is gone so all I have are two cuttings. Thanks for your help

[@joanmcbean332]

Thank you for this video. I've tried to do cuttings in the past without much success. Some did root, so I was thinking it was just dumb luck. Now I know I can try new things if some are dying before they root.

[@rosemarythyme6351]

🫐When gardening, I always think it's never a fail if you learn something from it. I didn't think the time period of taking the cutting would make such a big difference in rooting. Good to know! Thanks for the video. 🫐

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks. Some plants are more adaptable than others. Speaking of roses, I could root 'Bonica' at just about any stage, but damask roses seem to take best later in the season. A little picky at times, but it keeps the hobby interesting

[@norinenagle6730]

Thanks for the honesty. . . and referring to a science paper with the controls and stats to point the way to a better result.

[@camicri4263]

Thank you for sharing this with us! I certainly hope that next time you share it will be a success! Blessings 💕🤗

[@lanceb7438]

Troubleshooting a problem is important. I've never had success with Blue Berries in summer cuttings (although I don't think I've tried in August) I have had decent luck with taking cuttings in January. I use cuttings from the past years growth. The first year, I had 50% success. Last year is was maybe a 20%. I may have to try some this month. Thanks for this video.

[@jayjaysimonsen1332]

Thank you so much for your very structured and detailed information about the "how" and "why"!

[@carmenbailey1560]

Wishing you good luck with your rooting system for blueberries. Thanks as always for all your shared information. 👍❤️😊

[@judymckerrow6720]

Thank you Jason . Good luck !!! 🌺💚🙃

[@gwbuilder5779]

Timing is everything.👌 I just moved in to my house on Friday. It's not finished, but it is a solid structure so I won't have to worry about the changing weather. Now that I am in the house I have been pondering the possibility of taking cuttings from the Emerald blueberry plant that I have and here you are literally posting a video about the concerns I have about this very subject. I have heard the success rate is typically 20-40% which I thought was a bit drastic, but as I watched the video, it reminded me of the failed camellia sinensis (tea) cuttings I did a couple of years ago. Interestingly there seem to be schools of thought on the camellia senensis of soft cuttings or semi-hardwood similar to the blueberry. I do remember a conversation with my cousin some 40 years ago about how difficult it is to propagate blueberries because of their particular traits. Cuttings in mid to late August was recommended because the shrub had a recovery time after bearing fruit which makes sense and there is still enough warm weather for the cuttings to set roots before the autumn season sets in. I will be looking closer at my plant to see if it ready to share a few stems with me for a cutting trial. The good news is I have lots of windows for natural light and protection from the harsh winds. I will be using Peat and perlite for the mix and I think perhaps I will take a few rose and camellia senensis cuttings as well, just to see what happens. I guess that means I'll be sleeping in the greenhouse.😂 I'll be waiting to see your results.🤙

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

That's nice to hear - progress!

[@gwbuilder5779]

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Yes. Taking longer than planned, but that is usually how it goes. Due to the high winds the porch/entry area is going to become a solarium/nursery space for convenience and a more stable solution. Just adapting to the realities of the property.

[@susankilpatrick2918]

Interesting information Jason.

[@MrMockingbird1313]

Hey Jason,, I have had a love-hate relationship with bluebarries, for several years now. Here is what I know. Blueberries use up acid rapidly and need replacement acid often. So I watered with rainwater. I lace the water with cider vinigar. Second, I have lost a plant and it was dead and gone. Next spring canes come up from the dead plant. This has happened several times to me. Finally, there must be 500 common cultivars. But it seems only a few common cultivars will grow for me. So, I infer each cultivar has a narrow range of acceptable conditions. Oh, one last idea. Blueberries love a view to the east morning sun. You might tilt you tray a little east at night and west at noon, to get them started. Good luck, be well.

[@hannablom5803]

Thanks for your videos! You share so much useful information! I live in Sweden with a cold climate, and here the ”gurus” that has experimented with blueberry cuttings has found that peatblocks (is that the correct name for it?) is the best medium to root in. (You know the dry blocks you put into water and they will be twice as big.) Also, the best success has been with short cuttings taken early in summer, and rooting compound has been a must. Also moisture and heat has been important, and heatmats has been used with good (if not the best) result. I’m still waiting on the result of my own experiment of cuttings taken last week where they are put in my plastic mini greenhouse in the shadow. I can update when I know the result. I tried hardwood cuttings of blueberrys which looked great with new growth in spring- until they suddenly all died one day when it got a bit colder in the air. And softwoods have all died in the past. But, for last- a bonus tip I’ve heard from a couple of people. Sticking the cuttings near the motherplant can be really successful. I think this may be true because of hormones, but I dare not draw any conclusions as the few I personally stuck under my plants isn’t done yet. I did feel some resistance when pulling on them though. Crossing fingers 🙏🌸

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks Hanna!

[@Elestrial]

Thank you for sharing!

[@MickF04]

I guess the good news with the "overall failure" of the first set of cuttings is it forced you to down the research path to hopefully discover why. And in the process, you now know for this specific blueberry plant that likely over half of the cuttings won't make it, at least according to the research.

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks Mick - totally. It's worth knowing that I'm not shooting for 100%, and as silly as it sounds even just that 1 well rooted cutting is super encouraging. The task is not impossible!

[@peterkoller3761]

my rose cuttings: turns out, the less fuss I make about them, the better the results: I stick them in a garden bed in October, no hormones, no nothing, don´t touch them for 14 to 16 months (no replanting, just leave them where they are) - about 60% success rate, vastly better than in a pot with all tins and whistles. of course, I don´t have to make a living on it, I am just doing this for fun, for myself and giveaways to friends... so no pressure to succeed, just the joy of it when I do.

[@anaceleste2631]

Instead of roothing hormone can we use raw honey ? I heard this was an " alternative tip of our grandma's "...Is it effective ? Thank you for your videos !

[@goodmusic3679]

Just had this experience with haskap cuttings in a humidity dome. They looked fine and I even imagined they were tugging back... but when I checked, not even a callus. I think I took them too late in the season, after they were too hardened. I'd be curious to know if cuttings from the top of a shoot perform better or worse than mid-shoot cuttings. (I also tried blueberries this year from hardwood - very good take rate on bottom heat, but they struggled in their pots and new growth was scant and pale.)

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks. It's really amazing how a little difference in the ripeness of the wood can change the success rate in some cultivars!

[@Maggie-Gardener-Maker]

Excellent! Thanks for this very timely video for me as I was wondering best time to do some cuttings because I will soon be moving all of my blueberry bushes to a better plot where they can get more sun. I want to do cuttings mostly incase moving the bushes is not successful. I don't want to move the bushes until probably toward end of September just because of the extreme hot and humid conditions we been suffering through here in northwest Florida. When I initially planted them about a year ago I didn't realize that plot didn't get any sun at all until about 1pm or later. The bushes were only about 18" tall bare root stock. They have at least doubled size in height and width, I've fertilized and amended during the year. It was already extreme heat and brutal sun by the time I realized my mistake in location so I didn't want to move them and shock them from so much shade to full on all day sun. What is your opinion about the location?

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Your days in Florida don't get quite a long as ours at higher latitudes, so I'm with you on concern that 1pm onward might be a little scant.

[@Maggie-Gardener-Maker]

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you!

[@marmaladesunrise]

You look nice in black, young man. 🙂 Rot organisms, a good point. So glad I used fresh soil after a plumeria cutting failed and I got a fresh one. Thank you so much for teaching us about so much, Jason.

[@MzladyGrinn]

When I root cuttings I usually scrap the stem to the remove the outer layer. Maybe an inch or inch & half, then dip into hormone. I see you don’t do that. I’ve done many plants like that. I’m wondering what your thoughts are on that method. Mind you, I’m just a Grannie in her garden, Not professional… I’ve done lorapetalum, crepe myrtle, and a few others.

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks. I actually did review a different study on blueberries where scoring the lower stem made no difference to results. I know some propagators swear by the method, but I'm getting high success rates on most roses, shrubs and perennials without scoring, so I'm reluctant to mess with it.

[@MzladyGrinn]

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you. I initially came to your page for information on rose cuttings, And I don’t see me leaving anytime soon. You put out great content. I appreciate that, greatly! I’ll be waiting to see how this next tray of BB cuttings turn out! My daughter has BB and would like to increase her plant numbers. Alas, the current economy prevents that. Hopefully, your tutorials on this will help her. Have a great day!

[@gwbuilder5779]

I use to score my cuttings many years ago because it was what I was taught and one year I decided to do a comparison and there was no difference except for cuttings that had no nodes, then the scoring seemed to increase the success.🤙

[@TheMarcel1988nl]

Got a question , basically a follow up to the one that i asked a couple of months ago regarding butterfly bush cuttings. It worked! They actually rooted and are now basically sun proof so to speak. One question i had was that the butterfly bush i made the cuttings from is multicolor (purple and blue). Do you know if the cuttings wil also have both colors? cant find it anywhere online

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

They should be genetically identical to the mother plant, and so have the same range of colors

[@TheMarcel1988nl]

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm ah thats great to hear! Dont really know how they get them to be multicolor so thats why i asked tbh. We are in the middle of a heatwave and they can basically withstand 86 degree fahrenheit (30 celcius) for multiple days (i take a look every 30 minutes bc of the extreme heat) and in direct sun they dont even wilt after 4 hours of sun, so they abviously have already developed tons of roots. I think i can basically say that they are successfully hardened of at that point right?

[@TheMarcel1988nl]

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm my hydrangea cuttings grew quite nicely. It already had 4 sets of leaves. Can i plant them in my garden? I have a very mild climate (zone 8b) and its still about 20 degrees celcius outside (68fahrenheit)

[@MB-co6qj]

Hi Jason, is there a follow up to this video?:)

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

No. I'll catch everyone up as I make my next attempt (I'm not built to give up!). Even the second set of cuttings ended up being super slow. My theory is that by that stage of the summer, the mother plants were pretty drought stressed and it was super difficult to get them to root. Some did - and some are still trying, but super slow! I'd like to give a shot a softwood cutting before they bloom this coming year.

[@nimimerkillinen]

do you reuse the soil elsewhere that has possibly rotten stuff in it?

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Yes, I use it for up-potting more established plants that would be resilient to a few microbes I suspect. It's just that cuttings are so vulnerable at this stage

[@nimimerkillinen]

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm cheers!

[@FireflyOnTheMoon]

I know some people put cutting material immediately into water - in seconds or minutes after cutting. Do you not mind with your own?

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

No, I've always gone directly into the potting mix after applying rooting hormone

[@gwbuilder5779]

​@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Same here.

[@pandora9015]

My cuttings always rot, so frustrating!

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

So sorry to hear it! That right balance of humidity vs. ventilation is sometimes hard to master!

[@henryli9616]

I'm wondering if you put the cutting tray under the container box, do they have enough ventilation? Will there be mold due to not have enough air circulation?

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

Thanks Henry. I show more about the method I used in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anfMlKCMprmSl5Y The clear cover has holes drilled to allow slow ventilation. It's been working well for roses and other perennials and shrubs without a lot of rot, but I do open and inspect each day for any failed cuttings or dropped foliage.

[@flowerfairy1950]

Mine rotted 😢

[@oooops537]

Thank you my boo. :) good to learn.

[@naturescolours18]

👍👍

[@oooops537]

Does cutting them on full moon make a difference Jason ?

[@FraserValleyRoseFarm]

I wouldn't bet on it

[@FireflyOnTheMoon]

lol

[@JustJamesDean]

After watching the humidity dome video, I did a tray of lemon cuttings. No roots also, after many weeks, the leaves are still green and sprouting new buds. So weird. No luck with roses this whole year, I keep overwatering them

[@phirintra]

This is my video 😅 my all cuttings failed so far

[@FireflyOnTheMoon]

This video works well at custom speed 0.9