Why This Was The Best Heel Turn Ever

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@abelsomili4830
@abelsomili4830 18 күн бұрын
Seth Rollins turning on the Shield has to be top 5 imo.
@kkirk1381
@kkirk1381 18 күн бұрын
We can’t forget the Shawn Michaels turn on Marty Jannetty (sweet chin music).
@retroesso
@retroesso 17 күн бұрын
Still haven’t forgiven Shawn for that
@DeaconX7
@DeaconX7 17 күн бұрын
Jannetty clearly jumped through that window
@nah9538
@nah9538 17 күн бұрын
Imagine how much better Roman’s career would’ve panned out if Vince didn’t try to force him to be a Cena knockoff
@kevan1700
@kevan1700 17 күн бұрын
better? he held the belt for three years. i think its safe to say it worked out in the long run
@nah9538
@nah9538 17 күн бұрын
@ I’m saying if they did this in 2015 instead of 2020. He would’ve had a lot more success sooner.
@kevan1700
@kevan1700 15 күн бұрын
@@nah9538 3 more 2 month meaningless title runs wouldnt have meant anything. it worked out better in the long run
@dicekash10
@dicekash10 12 күн бұрын
And now look everyone on Roman n cenas dick
@dicekash10
@dicekash10 12 күн бұрын
Like they did with hogan?
@bdo333
@bdo333 18 күн бұрын
Had us booing a guy with leukemia
@TribalChief6378
@TribalChief6378 17 күн бұрын
No he was a great heel
@dicekash10
@dicekash10 12 күн бұрын
U was not us
@bdo333
@bdo333 12 күн бұрын
@@TribalChief6378 I agree.
@bdo333
@bdo333 12 күн бұрын
@@dicekash10 ok
@JayeWillMedia
@JayeWillMedia 17 күн бұрын
Bobby Heenan didn’t ruin the Hogan moment because the character had ALWAYS BEEN ANTI-Hogan. Even when Hogan was good Heenan used to say he wasn’t all people thought he was
@johnmcnamara8741
@johnmcnamara8741 17 күн бұрын
For real, I think Sam was joking here, but I hate when people seriously think he ruined it. Would have ruined it if he was cheering for Hogan 😂
@cvogtstrom1
@cvogtstrom1 16 күн бұрын
Yeah no one in that moment even gave a second thought to what Heenan said.
@MrMack1622
@MrMack1622 13 күн бұрын
The fact that people don’t get this blows my mind.
@brandonmckelvey4819
@brandonmckelvey4819 11 күн бұрын
Exactly if anybody ruined it Dusty did by saying “would you stop it” Bobby Heenan was jay being himself.
@JGD185
@JGD185 18 күн бұрын
Best heel turn ever will always be Hollywood Hogan at Bash at the Beach 96 and the formation of the New World Order.
@hayatorpg3896
@hayatorpg3896 18 күн бұрын
“LeBron James”
@aks19880
@aks19880 17 күн бұрын
Nope.
@dicekash10
@dicekash10 12 күн бұрын
Hogan? Lmao
@stephencolbert4140
@stephencolbert4140 18 күн бұрын
I had hogan #1 before this video, but he made a hell of an argument
@anthonyrivera2306
@anthonyrivera2306 17 күн бұрын
I know Sam works with WWE in the preshows, but Jesus you don't have to glaze them for a paycheck raise. Roman turning heel was great, but it's not the best because when he turned, the hero to beat him wasn't even back in the company yet. When Vince said "Bret screwed Bret", Austin had already stunned him before then, establishing heroes to fight the boss. Hogan turned heel and he had The Horsemen, Sting, Luger, The Giant to fight.
@fester902
@fester902 11 күн бұрын
this, he and Chris both are glazing hard here...
@Christoffski
@Christoffski 18 күн бұрын
Triple H turning on D-X when WWE needed Darth Vader to their Austins and Rocks is slept on. My Time. "Student of the game? I AM THE F-ING GAME."
@johnmcnamara8741
@johnmcnamara8741 17 күн бұрын
Good call, it’s one of the least talked about.
@bigheadedm
@bigheadedm 17 күн бұрын
Triple h most of his career was a heel.. even when he was baby face at DX early in his career.. it wasn’t a surprise!
@Christoffski
@Christoffski 17 күн бұрын
@@bigheadedm He was coasting in a safe place finally over as a face. But they had a bunch of dudes like Austin and Rock acting like cool heels but over as faces. Not easy to he a heel against and many didn't want to be or just couldn't be a serious heel. If he doesn't turn and break up the group which he was being perduaded not to then all those mega over faces have no real nemesis. In hindsight it makes a lot of sense - but back then he had a good thing going and it was a risk.
@iandrew6842
@iandrew6842 16 күн бұрын
Triple H is always overlooked in my opinion
@virgiliodantetv
@virgiliodantetv 18 күн бұрын
Best Heel turn was Vince on Bret that unchained a lot of moving parts in the industry best heel turn in keyfabe that mixed with real life during for at least 3 decades xD
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 17 күн бұрын
Yeah VKM becoming an actual character is #1
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 16 күн бұрын
That’s not a heel turn 😂😂😂😂 he never was a face so there is no turn
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 16 күн бұрын
@@Tumorcoach he was a babyface announcer... Kinda showed your ignorance there
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 16 күн бұрын
@ never was a babyface announcer irony of you saying someone showed their ignorance
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 16 күн бұрын
@ smooth brain
@russellmia07
@russellmia07 17 күн бұрын
Hogan is # 1 for sure. For years he was the Good guy who said to little kids to eat your vegetables, take your vitamins and say your prayers. The pro American super hero to the fans. After that he turn his back on the fans to create a super heel group.
@Irish18989
@Irish18989 17 күн бұрын
Honestly Roman turning heel, what I remember alot of fans saying was "about time" I don't know if it was mainstream but there was a sizable portion of the WWE audience who thought Roman was suffering from bad booking as a good guy. It was like when Vince wouldn't let rocky maivia turn heel initially even though the fans were chanting "die rocky die"
@WhelmedButReady
@WhelmedButReady 17 күн бұрын
Dude, this is the definition of living in the moment. It's an all-timer for sure. But Hogan's turn changed the literal industry. Man was the best heel talent of the decade.
@jamalwalker04
@jamalwalker04 15 күн бұрын
The best heel of the '90s was Vince imo
@WhelmedButReady
@WhelmedButReady 15 күн бұрын
@jamalwalker04 I agree. But I was referring to in-ring talent
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 5 күн бұрын
Hogan ruined WCW though
@kenterminateddq5311
@kenterminateddq5311 18 күн бұрын
I thought Seth Rollins' heel turn is better cause it was ujnexpected. Roman's heel turn was unexpected too but Seth's heel turn was more shocking. My favorite heel turn is possibly Hulk Hogan turned heel in WCW to join the nWo.
@StayInYourPlace
@StayInYourPlace 17 күн бұрын
It was because we all expected Reigns to turn.
@mykalmcdo
@mykalmcdo 18 күн бұрын
I think Romans is Top 5 but Hogan has to be number 1
@yu17865
@yu17865 18 күн бұрын
Ya keep living in nostalgia
@Gyjtrdfhj
@Gyjtrdfhj 17 күн бұрын
@@yu17865prisoner of the moment
@aks19880
@aks19880 17 күн бұрын
Nope. Roman Reigns has changed professional wrestling for the better.
@meanguy111
@meanguy111 17 күн бұрын
Agreed It's Hogan
@meanguy111
@meanguy111 17 күн бұрын
​@@yu17865HOGAN!
@mma9869
@mma9869 16 күн бұрын
It is Hogan without a doubt. Hogan changed the business that day.
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 5 күн бұрын
His creative control led to the demise of WCW.
@sonofapreacherman7328
@sonofapreacherman7328 17 күн бұрын
He’s on WWE payroll
@Risen.Phoenix
@Risen.Phoenix 18 күн бұрын
Hogan Still #1
@lezardvaleth2304
@lezardvaleth2304 18 күн бұрын
Most of the contrary 'fans' who'd do smart cheering/booing also moved on to AEW in the same year, meaning the people watching the show once the pandemic lifted actually wanted to see the show, not smarks getting themselves over.
17 күн бұрын
Shawn turning on janetty ,hogan at bash at the beach and andré on hogan,imo, are much better
@flybirdsfly2091
@flybirdsfly2091 18 күн бұрын
Great video🔥💥, Hollywood Hulk Hogan will always be the best heel ever in my opinion
@Ray-yt8gu
@Ray-yt8gu 18 күн бұрын
#1 Hogan nwo
@robertpalatsky5017
@robertpalatsky5017 12 күн бұрын
Top 5: 1) Hogan at BATB 1996 2) Roman (2020) 3)HBK (turning on Marty Jinnetty) 4) Rock 1998 5) SCSA at WM17 **** You can move some around a bit, but that's my top 5. Let me know if I missed anyone- P.S. Seth is my honrable mention.
@unbiasedjisoostan3716
@unbiasedjisoostan3716 17 күн бұрын
As much as I hate Hogan (with every fiber of my being), I'd still give him the nod for the greatest heel turn ever. Literally an iconic moment in entertainment as a whole.
@cerebralassassin2185
@cerebralassassin2185 18 күн бұрын
Roman probably has a top 10 heel turn. People vastly overrate it tho.
@wasimsazzadkuasha1058
@wasimsazzadkuasha1058 17 күн бұрын
Not Really..Only haters like u think so..Forsure it is not overrated..
@Debbie2004-x9q
@Debbie2004-x9q 17 күн бұрын
@@wasimsazzadkuasha1058exactly dude. This guy is a paid hater
@cerebralassassin2185
@cerebralassassin2185 15 күн бұрын
​@wasimsazzadkuasha1058 you roman fan boys can't accept when someone doesn't blindly praise him huh? He's good but fans overrate him so hard.
@HouseofMoth1
@HouseofMoth1 11 күн бұрын
If you think about it Roman Reigns is the first person in WWE/F history to be a Heel who is also the face of the company. I don’t think we’ve had that
@life0093
@life0093 17 күн бұрын
Oh no. Hogan has to be number one. There’s no attitude era without hogan’s heel turn.
@Doragonrenaj
@Doragonrenaj 16 күн бұрын
Factual comment. Hogan’s WCW heel turn put WWE $6 million in the negative, cost Vince $5 million of his own personal fortune, and would have completely put them out of business in 1997 had McMahon not captured lighting in a bottle with Steve Austin.
@jamalwalker04
@jamalwalker04 15 күн бұрын
The attitude era was already taking form in ECW long before Hogan Turned heel
@Doragonrenaj
@Doragonrenaj 15 күн бұрын
@@jamalwalker04 ECW was the precursor, and what Vince would later emulate, but nWo is unequivocally the inciting incident for that desperation.
@Deathcomes4usall
@Deathcomes4usall 14 күн бұрын
There’s no attitude era without VINCE MCMAHONs heel turn. He turned heel when he said, “Bret screwed Bret.”
@dicekash10
@dicekash10 12 күн бұрын
No attitude era with out stone cold
@PurpleHendrxx
@PurpleHendrxx 16 күн бұрын
Having Cena turn heel would be on par with Hogan's reveal as the third man in Bash in the Beach 96'.
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 18 күн бұрын
Hulk Hogan’s heel turn was legendary but his creative control abuse led to the demise of WCW. From the “fast count” in the match with Sting to the Fingerpoke of Doom.
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 17 күн бұрын
Indeed..
@Cuhris714
@Cuhris714 15 күн бұрын
Don’t let recency bias blind you it’s still Hogan turning. Just watch the Vince documentary for reminder
@justinc22443
@justinc22443 12 күн бұрын
You can hate Hogan until your dying breath for the person he is outside of wrestling, but denying Bash 96 as the best heel turn of all time is just ridiculous. Changed an entire era of wrestling.
@sarmadhabibkhan3036
@sarmadhabibkhan3036 18 күн бұрын
In terms of shock factor, Hogan's Heel turn is still bigger. In terms of long-term impact, Roman Reigns takes the cake.
@donateloleonardo
@donateloleonardo 15 күн бұрын
Nah, Hogan heel turn literally gave birth to the attitude era, made pro-wrestling pop culture & solidified the Monday Night Wars as must-see TV.
@NickPR87
@NickPR87 16 күн бұрын
I think Roman's was the "most necessary" but not the best executed or most unexpected. If there's a significant portion of the fan base desperately calling for someone to turn heel, once it happens it's a sigh of relief and not a collective gasp of shock and horror.
@WayneBurns-n6k
@WayneBurns-n6k 17 күн бұрын
Seth Rollins heel Turn by far imo
@brandonmckelvey4819
@brandonmckelvey4819 11 күн бұрын
Bobby Heenan didn’t ruin it he was being himself like he always was with Hogan.
@evdomos
@evdomos 17 күн бұрын
I remember when I wasn't even very into this, hadn't seen a PLE or any TV at all, when I had only passing knowledge of how people hated Roman and that turning heel would fix him, I remember seeing the clip on KZbin panning to Heyman when it happened and even I was like, OH SHIT.
@BassOfPj
@BassOfPj 16 күн бұрын
I'm kind of chuckling at the fact that karma finally came for Sam Roberts and made him look like Scorch for the rest of his life lmao
@blancomac11
@blancomac11 17 күн бұрын
The bloodline was stale after a year. Given that every fucking roman match ended the same way. 56 cousins interfering in every damn match not only is repetitive, it’s fucking dumb. If 56 were banned from ringside, here comes cousin #57, if 57 is banned here comes 58.
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 5 күн бұрын
You can say the same thing about Hogan and the NWO
@TheAutistWhisperer
@TheAutistWhisperer 18 күн бұрын
It's always going to be Hulk Hogan.
@jasonpdsi
@jasonpdsi 15 күн бұрын
I maintain Heenan didn't spoil it. I maintain Heenan was just trying to cast aspersions on a man he always hated.
@watersandblue6001
@watersandblue6001 18 күн бұрын
Rollins turning on The Shield was huge.
@joshuamessenger
@joshuamessenger 17 күн бұрын
Nah. Despite Vince's best efforts, Roman Reigns has consistently been a heel since 2012, with the most boring title reigns ever.
@cvogtstrom1
@cvogtstrom1 16 күн бұрын
I disagree with the crowd not being there. He should’ve been able to do that in spite of that crowd all the great ones do.
@JS-uc3qf
@JS-uc3qf 17 күн бұрын
Big time Roman glazer
@DarkHeart515
@DarkHeart515 17 күн бұрын
I disagree about changing how stories are told... There have been great storylines before the PG era. Roman just got it back with his new character along with Paul
@LostMyJob859
@LostMyJob859 14 күн бұрын
Sam knows ball. I love it
@ohdoyle
@ohdoyle 17 күн бұрын
Suffering Succotash. This is my yard, now! 🎉
@YOSEMITEVUE-fo9tu
@YOSEMITEVUE-fo9tu 18 күн бұрын
Sam look like Jon Moxley
@Debbie2004-x9q
@Debbie2004-x9q 17 күн бұрын
That’s his own opinion and I don’t know how some slow people are taking this as a fact
@sleepinggorilla
@sleepinggorilla 17 күн бұрын
While I agree with the impact of the Bloodline. I still don't care about Roman Reigns as a character. Hogan forming the NWO bar none. Launched the most entertaining era of wrestling ever. Shawn Michaels kicked Marty Jennety through the window. Jericho throws Shawn into the Jericho-tron HHH spent the whole show trying to find out who attacked Shawn, and it was him. HHH revealed he made Rikishi attack Austin with a car. Seth turned on the Sheild Seth cashing in at WM
@joshuadedeaux8102
@joshuadedeaux8102 11 күн бұрын
Easy to maintain 4 years when you only wrestle 4 times a year
@sdd619
@sdd619 16 күн бұрын
Na still Hogan. I expected Roman to turn at some point.
@zainvincent9646
@zainvincent9646 15 күн бұрын
My Tribal Chief ☝🏻
@coryspeight2554
@coryspeight2554 16 күн бұрын
Hogan #1.... I mean it was on mainstream breaking news and had grown men that didn't even follow wrestling shook. Shawn #2 just because of cool it was, the kick, the glass, the magazine rip.
@sharpshooter63
@sharpshooter63 12 күн бұрын
I feel Sam has a lot of recency bias with some of his answers
@tcsbaseball1
@tcsbaseball1 11 күн бұрын
Stop this Roman glazing . It’s hogan . Hands down. No argument . Changed the business
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, put WCW out of business 😂
@tcsbaseball1
@tcsbaseball1 Күн бұрын
@@ITSHIM1294 what an awful take. sit down clown.
@wpflesh6510
@wpflesh6510 17 күн бұрын
Hogan’s is STILL the best of all time…..It moved numbers not seen since and for 84 weeks it moved the world leader of the industry to 2nd place…..Dare i say if WCW had not been just a holding in a mega corporations portfolio with better leadership….Hogan’s heel turn may have sent WWF out of business
@herbpalindrome
@herbpalindrome 11 күн бұрын
nWo Hogan > Roman Empire Roman… not even close
@ShaloomKhokhar-l8d
@ShaloomKhokhar-l8d 18 күн бұрын
Best heel turn was of Seth Rollins
@wasimsazzadkuasha1058
@wasimsazzadkuasha1058 17 күн бұрын
Good Joke..
@crunchytaco4472
@crunchytaco4472 10 күн бұрын
Vince McMahon and the screw job
@MrTbomb69
@MrTbomb69 17 күн бұрын
Dude you’re such a homer. There is NO WAY that is a higher heel turn than Hogan. 🙄🙄🙄
@LilToastedGhosted
@LilToastedGhosted 17 күн бұрын
It's his opinion. Cry.
@vinnyscaramuzzino8088
@vinnyscaramuzzino8088 17 күн бұрын
Hogan.
@Juan-y3c2n
@Juan-y3c2n 13 күн бұрын
No
@MetalThrashingMan13
@MetalThrashingMan13 18 күн бұрын
☝️
@Simonskilamb
@Simonskilamb 18 күн бұрын
What is he smoking?? Bad take. Nobody other than the diehards who kept watching through the worst of it all really cared about Roman Reigns' reign until the very end.
@flyoutchase
@flyoutchase 16 күн бұрын
Roman Reigns heel turn got the WWE a 5 billion dollar deal from Netflix
@sthbmc5963
@sthbmc5963 16 күн бұрын
The UFC merger, Netflix wanting to get into affordable sports content (they signed a two-game NFL contract for Christmas Day in August), and a lot of admitted convincing was required from both the TKO President and their CEO to land WWE that deal.
@Knobslobber11
@Knobslobber11 18 күн бұрын
Chris you're credible enough to be bringing these marks that are nobodies.
@jrcrit8843
@jrcrit8843 18 күн бұрын
Be quiet bozo. It’s his platform
@Knobslobber11
@Knobslobber11 18 күн бұрын
@jrcrit8843 that doesn't mean it should be given to marks like you
@jrcrit8843
@jrcrit8843 18 күн бұрын
@@Knobslobber11 lmao you’re a bum on the internet trying to tell somebody else what to do with their platform. If he wants to have guests of all kinds on his platform, who is a nobody like you to say otherwise
@ArtsyAllAround
@ArtsyAllAround 18 күн бұрын
Chris brought in so many different people in just the last few months, it’s fine to bring in somebody like Sam.
@Knobslobber11
@Knobslobber11 18 күн бұрын
@@ArtsyAllAround who's next? Sean Ross Sapp? Billi Boti? Goldberg?
@mattlovespeebee
@mattlovespeebee 18 күн бұрын
I have to completely DISAGREE. I feel that Roman’s reign (pun intended) was 3 years too long and I HATE So-SLOW Sikoa and his Menstrual Bloodline. Unfortunately the only thing that is keeping me from jumping to AEW is that I find nothing compelling about their stories and I am still hopeful that Hunter might have a plan but I’m praying for this whole thing to go off the rails because it’s probably being orchestrated by Rock the Dwayne and we can literally see what happens when he is in charge. Just look at Black Adam’s box office!!
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 18 күн бұрын
If you jump to AEW what do you even expect to find better?
@jamescooper3324
@jamescooper3324 18 күн бұрын
I feel like you’re just upset to be contrarian. The Bloodline story is good. Solo has come into his own on the mic. They’re starting to fire on all cylinders again. What about AEW is compelling? Barely nabbing 600k views? Sounds like compelling television
@shano8018
@shano8018 17 күн бұрын
Its easy to get clouded by nostalgia with Hogans heel turn, but Romans turn is probably the most important turn in wrestling history. Without it there's a good chance AEW would've overtaken WWE, given how bad WWE was 2017-2020
@Doragonrenaj
@Doragonrenaj 16 күн бұрын
WWE Net Worth: 2017 - $2.35 Billion 2018 - $5.83 Billion (10 year SA deal) 2019 - $5.09 Billion 2020 - $3.73 Billion (Pandemic) 2021 - $3.74 Billion (Pandemic) 2022 - $5.09 Billion 2023 - $6.87 Billion (UFC Merger) WWE is making money hand over fist, regardless of on-screen quality/ticket sales, via TV rights, sponsorships, and advertisements, which account for 89% of their yearly total net revenue. Different ballgame than ‘94-‘96 when Raw’s were being held in high school gymnasiums and WCW caused the company to go $6 million in the negative prior to Steve Austin catching fire.
@worstthereeverwillbe1223
@worstthereeverwillbe1223 15 күн бұрын
Bloodline is gay
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