Cyberpunk 2077 Attempting to Convince Takemura to leave Arasaka and Farewell to V

[@mungoslast3459]

He had the right ideals, but served for the wrong people.

[@atomictsarina4378]

That's the best description of him I've ever read!

[@dsfdotnet]

I really wanted Takemura to become a Nomad Ronin leaving Arasaka behind. He owed them absolutely nothing.

[@trevalyan006]

Let's be clear, Takemura cutting his topknot off and being a long haired motorcycle ronin would have been pure cake.

[@khyrianstorms]

Check Fireworks by Takashi Kitano. You'll see the story of a man leaving the Yakuza behind to travel around with his wife and kid.

[@collaredlynx]

@@khyrianstormsleaving yakuza behind? main character was a cop, not a criminal. and there was no kid around, just him and his wife

[@Tywil714]

Really sucks in the more preferabble endings if you save him he decides to commit sucide and tells you to rot in hell. Really wish he could overcome his loyalty and just do his own thing

[@ace10229]

You don't get it. If it wasn't for Arasaka, Takemura would have stayed a scop sucking, faceless nobody with no decent future. Not saying Arasaka or the corps are any good, but put himself in your shoes. Every opportunity he has ever had, though strictly through Arasaka's good graces if any, was through them at the end of the day. Order always casts a shadow.

[@N8kdmagazine]

Takemura was really one of those characters I wanted better for. after failing to protect Saburo he should've just left and started a new life. But, it's hard to teach a old dog new tricks.

[@bgill6623]

Not to mention its not his fault that Saburo didn't count on getting patricided. Dude was just following order

[@briantien7146]

Surprisingly there wasn't a way to get him to join your nomad group either, as he does say during the scouting mission that he always has considered just becoming a nomad and leaving his life at arasaka behind

[@pureChem1calz]

It's funny cus he says something about teaching a dog new tricks mid way through

[@N8kdmagazine]

@@pureChem1calz he most definitely does 😃

[@Nadaron_]

It's so sad that he curses V in every other ending :(

[@tianshuhuang5431]

Better let him die if you’re gonna choose other endings, at least he’d die a warrior’s death fighting Yorinobu’s troops instead of getting betrayed by the person he trusted and had no way but to commit suicide.

[@ddg-fi5bp]

@@tianshuhuang5431 It does not make sense in the ending where v refuses to join the soul program

[@joycet1162]

@@ddg-fi5bp IKR one minute V is all about survival and the next minute it’s about freedom.

[@TheFlyingPilgrim]

Feels like a symptom of this game being released too early.

[@prettygurlrockx]

I wish there was a way we could have convinced him to leave Arasaka, like we need a whole main mission arc about that.

[@Kristers_K]

He’s a good man, but blinded by loyalty. You don’t serve others, you serve yourself, be a better version of yourself. Serving others you are nothing but a slave and diminish your own life.

[@napoleonplzx]

Totally agree, I think saving him and attacking arasaka afterwards would be the best for him so that he can start to experience what was devoid from his life, and that is freedom from Arasaka. Though we really don't know what really happens in the story afterwards.

[@nicobenji0248]

@bad dreams No way damn. Well it seems like he looked at Saburo as a father figure since Saburo "chose" him out of millions of soldiers/orphans as a personal bodyguard. He was loyal cause Arasaka changed/saved his life. If you attack Arasaka Hanako dies too. Probably got killed in the corssfire of Yorinobu's coup. But his only chance for his life back or serving the company that "saved" him is gone. Every ending has it's upside/downside to it and not just for V. Best ending is the secret one and Johnny taking over in my opinion. Cause the sequel potential is highest when Johnny is in V's body lol

[@jakubfabisiak9810]

try watching "13 assassins" - gives a new perspective on samurai loyalty. Just remember to watch it in japanese, with subtitles, because the english dub will make you want to commit sudoku in 5 minutes.

[@Dark_Voice]

@@napoleonplzx You see it in the credits scene where he tells about the samurai's death poems before committing seppuku being beautiful but that hes no samurai => Burn in hell will have to suffice AND then he offs himself. Its a shame, I tried to persuade him to be a nomad but hes too far gone.

[@khyrianstorms]

That's why he's based on all those Kitano movies. Watch them if you love those types of stories.

[@gunswinger3110]

I really liked Takemura, at the start he's like that grizzled stern samurai that lost his master and now has to live for himself, slowly he warms up to you and even sends you boomer photos. Poor guy couldn't let go of Arasaka till the very end, it's a shame he curses you in literally every ending except the Arasaka one.

[@chrismoore7365]

Personally, I never considered Takemura's "curses" as antagonistic (even with the differences of opinions). It was a farewell with respect. Albeit a selfish one thinking that he has nothing to live for. And as Johnny stated about happy endings "Here, for folks like us? Wrong city, wrong people."

[@Elite_Tauren_Chieftain]

@@chrismoore7365 “rot in hell - piece of shit” is not antagonistic for you?

[@chrismoore7365]

@@Elite_Tauren_Chieftain In this setting, and as a existential nihilist? no even the slightest.

[@danieltobin4498]

“Get gigs, feed cats” should be the new tagline for Cyberpunk 2077

[@hamadsidiqui]

Takemura is basically a samurai, he has undying loyalty for his masters but knows their antics and has little choice to run away.

[@HELLER.]

Cyberpunk 2077 : Takemura DLC. Who's with me. Hands up ✋.

[@GothicDarkhellrazor]

Me, me , me!

[@dranzerjetli5126]

First let them fix the damn game

[@KemonoPriestessHazuki]

🐾

[@Dyndicat]

Nah, fix what's there first. Better yet, finish and release as a super patch. Or a complete redownload. Don't care, as long as we don't have to buy the damn thing again.

[@ambitionary2048]

Takemura dlc, jackie dlc, T-Bug dlc, rogue dlc, and of course Johny freaking silver hand dlc

[@wangdangatomictango]

I can't believe we can't have this conversation at any point in time before the Devil ending. It would've been great to have him be a secret companion.

[@nathanaelluisdesousa4938]

Imagine leave NC with him and the Aldecaldos?

[@ВладиславБулаев-л3э]

@@nathanaelluisdesousa4938 that'd be SO dope! Takemura even had a thought about becoming a nomad, why the hell there's no option to convince him?

[@evildoctortaco]

best possible ending would be the Nomad ending + Judy, and convincing Takemura to join V Judy and Panam on the road. Join the larger family of the Aldecaldos together. He’d get to be free, he’s earned that.

[@alamcho]

You actually have this conversation wayy before. In the construction site, prior to the Arasaka parade, while you wait to hack Hanako's float, V tells goro to leave Arasaka and be free, and Goro says "Sometimes i wish to become a nomad, but you cant teach an old dog new tricks" or something like that

[@activatealmonds]

No, that would be missing the point entirely

[@CrouchingTigress181]

In this last mission Takemura do be looking fresh doe

[@testcase72]

I ended up doing the Arasaka ending first solely because of Goro.

[@ShinMalphur]

I really went out of my way to save and protect him for him to diss me at the end.

[@tigrispanthera5496]

i cried when he told me to rot

[@danielhaire6677]

He was probably one of the most honorable and loyal men in all of Cyberpunk. It's a pity as a Samurai that the masters he served were not worthy of his loyalty and honor.

[@pedrot8227]

Takemura is such a great character, nice vid btw i hope you get more views

[@napoleonplzx]

Yeah he is, uhm I'm not really in for the views as I don't plan on making youtube my career, but thank you very much anyways

[@Open6a-fx4qf]

Trueee.. but be sided with arasaka.. i hope there’s a way for him to get out from that place

[@pureChem1calz]

It seems that the blood of samurai is In him. In his past life I'm sure he was samurai

[@badfoody]

fem V and Goro would be a good romance

[@BHRamsay]

You've just given me a good reason to finally play the Devil's Ending. Losing Hanako was sad but having Takamura curse my Vee was heartbreaking

[@verikan4241]

The Devil's ending is the most heartbreaking for V and Johnny, it'll also make you feel like losing Hanako was actually a good thing.

[@BHRamsay]

@@verikan4241 there's a video, the poster obviously loves Takamura. She points out that if you actually play through the Devil's Ending you realize Yurinobu was trying to reform Arasaka from the inside. She also mentions that Hanako has a biochip with her when you leave them together so clearly her plan from the get-go was to overwrite Yurinobu 's mind with Saburo's; Vee, and to a lesser degree Takamura, was just a means to that end kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvUlYxpoLR5ldk

[@KitsyKitsune-Vtuber]

I just wish there was the option to shake his hand before departing. That will be a nice way to show their strong bond.

[@chillemdafoe1738]

Or bow

[@symbolic503]

loved V and goro's relationship. really felt like professor x and magneto. so much respect for each other but lived by different principles.

[@dompsterfire]

Honestly wish there was a way to partner up and do the whole game together. He's the only character I would actually want at my back in a firefight

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

I'd take Johnny or River as my partner too.

[@dompsterfire]

@@MichaelDavis-mk4me good point. I was legit disappointed that there weren't more River Ward private eye type missions

[@sipinthatbub]

Takemura is quite a DILF, he should be a 'romance' option.

[@Foogi9000]

Goddamn right

[@Shiftinggers]

Nah he's too much of a bro. And according to some dialogue he might be married in Japan

[@sipinthatbub]

@@Shiftinggers oh i just find him physically attractive

[@gabrielmendes3767]

He would be a romance options for female V but this was cut from the final game. Rouge, Blue Moon e maybe Oda would also be romanceble apparently but they didn't have time enough to expand their side story or create a ending where you stay with them.

[@sipinthatbub]

@@gabrielmendes3767 that's very sad. Hopefully for the next game CDPR will scale it down, or take the necessary time.

[@radiantblog]

and now imanged what it could been if he was a romance option *still cyring*

[@HollowG8]

1:35 I think this little exchange is why Takemura is my favorite Cyberpunk Character. He's just too genuine, it pains me to act against him. It's like telling a dog to go away because you can't keep him, I feel like the devil even if I know it's best.

[@MrWizardjr9]

im a straight guy and i would marry takemura

[@napoleonplzx]

Well CDPR seems to forget that bisexual people exists, so they can make Takemura as one in the future updates ig lol?

[@TerallianSkylar]

@@napoleonplzx I think Kerry is bi, implied a lot from his house + mention of him having kids, but I think he's only interested in male V because he seems him as his missed chance, Johnny basically.

[@napoleonplzx]

@@TerallianSkylar I think I read somewhere that Kerry was supposed to be a bi during the earlier development of the game but decided to scrap that for some reason.

[@TerallianSkylar]

@@napoleonplzx That's a shame, would've been nice to have at least one of the four characters be bi.

[@AB-wf2js]

@@napoleonplzx Well meredith stout is bisexual, so I wouldn't say they completely forgot

[@FairyTanya]

best character in this game. at first i was so sad after jackie's death but then goro kinda replaced him, v and goro wasnt actualy friends but they acted like they were. you can see that it breakes his heart when V refuses to sign the contract. wish he was a romance option, or atleast we could try his onigiri like he promissed.

[@GothicDarkhellrazor]

I freaking hate the fact I can't kiss this man.

[@KairatIbrayev]

gay

[@GothicDarkhellrazor]

@@KairatIbrayev I'm a woman and I like cxck no homo.

[@GothicDarkhellrazor]

@@KairatIbrayev I'm a woman and I like cxck no homo.

[@fartyfat6539]

@@KairatIbrayev yes i am

[@abhinavthakur8232]

@@GothicDarkhellrazor lol

[@ThelemaTherion]

We should be able to romance him

[@marksimon2085]

He rejected my flirty messages, although he did say things might have been different if they had met in Japan IIRC. I initlally thought he wasn't an option because of his age, but seeing Kerry and Rogue later on really makes me sad they couldn't give us one corpo romance.

[@jellybean7283]

I'd throw it back on Goro, I'd throw it back hard

[@GothicDarkhellrazor]

Right fcking sucks

[@xXSweetJaniiXx]

Yea 😂 Japan love ending

[@TheKentanthony]

I remember when he said: you can't teach an old dog new tricks

[@ericargueta5135]

Only decent fellow in arasaka. Wasn't this guy forced to join as a foot soldier as a kid or something? It's the only life he knew

[@Dark_Voice]

Yorinobu > Takemura

[@shaheera.8150]

@@Dark_Voice as a character takemura is levels ahead but i do get that yori was the real good guy in the arasaka saga. i dont think takemura acted out of bad will though, just a blind soldier

[@Dark_Voice]

@@shaheera.8150 I understand why hes so loyal. He was poor child that was taken by Arasaka and trained - they fed him will, gave him education AND for Takemura, Arasaka is kinda like his Nomad family - he will do anything to protect them because he owes EVERYTHING to them. For him its either die from old age knowing he protected Arasaka family members well and made sure Arasaka's interests are achieved OR die trying and defending the family if thats what it takes. Its very loyal, honorable and makes him into a "strong" character. BUT I enjoy Yorinobu's fighting spirit more - although everyone was like "hes just black sheep", "cheap ass rebel", "his father holds his balls tight and can crush them at any time" etc., Yorinobu managed what Silverhand couldnt and only V can stop him from destroying Arasaka. He's about determination, NOT being a sheep, freedom and rebel. I think Takemura vs Yorinobu is kinda like conservative vs progressive - who is better depends really on the values of the person ranking them.

[@shaheera.8150]

@@Dark_Voice i mean to be fair to silverhand, it was pretty easy for yorinobu to off saburo seeing as they were just face to face. And even then saburo became an engram and stayed after anyway.

[@firefly5677]

Goro was just too far gone. His friendship with V was a joy to see develop throughout the game, but he is far past the point of no return. Wish we got an ending where he becomes a nomad like he always wanted, but as the saying goes no one in Night City gets a happy ending

[@KFro9k]

A clear example of someone that is loyal to a fault; It’s a shame that he could not see Arasaka for what it truly was and leave it.

[@lkc404]

He is not deserved to be treated as a friend tbh, as he will just betray you instantly just because any word from arasaka

[@DevilPogoStick]

It's tragic because it's pretty much clear that he and V do have appreciation for one another but ultimately his loyalty to a corporation that certainly doesn't deserve it is ultimately that wedge between them.

[@tigrispanthera5496]

💔

[@Kennnnn07]

you can't teach an old dog new tricks...

[@usov656]

This is why I liked this game's plot so much. The characters have flaws, and some of them are too deep for you to fix. You can't save everyone or change everyone's core beliefs. I loved Goro, and it made me sad you can't wrest him away from arasaka, but it makes sense that you can't. He's been indoctrinated since childhood, that's not something you can change with a few weeks/months of misadventures, and in fact, the reason Goro saves you and helps you is all so he can go back to Arasaka. So of course he curses you in all the endings in which you end up wrecking Arasaka, you ruined the last chance he had to get what he wanted, after risking life and limb to help you.

[@activatealmonds]

Finally, someone who gets it

[@DressedRunner]

Hit the streets, disappear.. get gigs, feed cats.. become a comedian. Just stay clear of Arasaka.

[@Fpockets]

I agree with this choice, after Hanko ties up all loose ends and doesnt need Goro anymore, she will only view him as her fathers failed bodyguard and that will only put Goro at risk. He really doesnt have a future at Arasaka no matter how much he still wants to be a part of that company.

[@necrodamus5481]

Yeah for real dude. He's a slave to his own honor. I really wish CDPR would update and add a new ending and let Takemura join up with the nomads

[@jon-umber]

Takemura is my favorite character in the entire game. Wish there was some way to end on good terms with him outside of the Devil ending. Hope he shows up in the expansions.

[@MrLolx2u]

Goro is just a typical Yakuza-type character. Blinded by loyalty and fate but totally not a bad dude. Just had to do what circumstances tosses at him

[@kairosprods]

Takemura has the perfect ending in fact. He is a warrior driven by honor, and he would never have even honor to bear if it wasn't for Arasaka. Even if his destiny is sad, it's what it needed to be. If you haven't talked much about Goro, or don't know - he was saved from Chiba-11, deadliest district of Japan, it bathes in chemical pollution and crime. He was chosen when an Arasaka patrol came. They were visiting regularily, picking the best and healthiest childrens of them all. He was trained, educated, and fed, three things he couldn't have inside of Chiba-11. Then, Saburo Arasaka himself noticed him and made him his personal bodyguard. It is just because Goro was the rightest and more honourable, traits that Saburo himself should have enjoyed due to his old age and love of old japanese values - and also because it made Takemura the perfect lapdog, yes. But faced to the life he was meant to live without Arasaka? I would have done the same without flinching even a bit. Most of us, if not all, would have. And also, without Arasaka, he is basically nothing. His chrome doesn't work and he is deprived of the only thing that makes sense to him : honor. Even worse, his honor is just thrown down the thrash in the story. It's simple - Goro Takemura isn't Goro Takemura without Arasaka. Choosing to not side with them, is siding against Goro. His honor commands it.

[@tylertheguy3160]

I'm positive that at one point in development you were supposed to be able to romance Takemura.

[@zhengwenyu1587]

A shame Takemura is a Camus archetype (from Fire Emblem). A good man but too stubborn to defect from the evil empire and will die to defend it

[@popwwtihfanno1]

How crazy awesome would it be if the sequel if it is released, had takemura as the protagonist trying to follow V's words

[@Evangelion543]

Hidoshi Hino: Better Buckle Up!

[@Yusuke_Denton]

If you sign the contract he's more agreeable and invites you to visit him in Kanagawa someday. Though he probably knows it won't happen.

[@DR-ts4eh]

Takemura san and Panam were my favorite characters. Shame that towards the end I basically had to choose between the two. Sorry Goro...

[@JoeyVSupreme]

It was always a little tragic that Goro never realized how Arasaka (and corps in general) just use and throw people away. That they don’t truly care about someone absolutely loyal to them. He’s nothing more than a pair of mantis blades, and is gone when not useful anymore. It’s tragic and I wish you could convince him to leave them or work in NC

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

Seriously, we need another ending with Takemura with DLC. Sadly, given that he can die, it would make too many forking events, doubt it will happen.

[@snellers]

I don't think you Convinced him of anything

[@napoleonplzx]

Yes, it's a failure sadly, even though he seems to see something wrong with the Arasakas

[@MetalGearBronya]

@@napoleonplzx At some point he even just starts referring to Hanako by her name. No longer with the respect he usually gives. Poor guy knows they're screwed up but sees no life outside of Arasaka.

[@napoleonplzx]

@@MetalGearBronya he started having some "doubts" during the first scene of the devil ending, before you exit misty's esoterica where hellman talks about the biochip, I never noticed he never knew about Johnny inside our head, and the other scene where V tells him that Saburo is still "alive" in Mikoshi which wasn't known to him for the whole time which he reacts in japanese "It cannot be"... shows how little they trust him aside from protecting Saburo.

[@MetalGearBronya]

@@napoleonplzx In short, dont trust corpos, tear down Arasaka, let Yorinobu escape, guy is the only one that is doing something good in that hellhole of a company. He sees the evil in his father and the company and decided to screw it over from the inside out, Johnny would be proud.

[@napoleonplzx]

@@MetalGearBronya yes, and doing the Hanako ending would waste yorinubo's plans to cripple arasaka from inside (becoming a bomb), and "resurrecting" saburo using yorinubo's body. So, don't fear the reaper for me all the way, (or panam ending if romancing judy/panam)

[@Veilfire]

You cannot change my mind that Takemura should have been a potential love interest & that you could have left with him & the nomads. 😭😭

[@ricekrispies4994]

may have been the wrong choice but I let him die trying to protect hanako instead of letting him live only to serve arasaka

[@LeftyConspirator]

Takemura finally realizing that his honour and loyalty has been abused by people who care for none of those things all his life. None of the terrible things he did on their behalf had anything to do with any of the principles he thought he stood for, and the only person he ever met who did live up to those standards was a mercenary from Night City. A Takemura that understands he owes Arasaka nothing and finally seeks out the freedom he has dreamt of as a nomad - there's the story I'd like to see. Even if it only lasts for a short while and he is hunted down by 'Saka operatives within months. It's as close to a happy ending as you'll get in the world of Cyberpunk.

[@kirshak7007]

I wish there was a way to expose Sabura intent of using his own son as a vessel to live for ever, as the Arasaka ending seem to expose the idea that it was his intention from the start and might be why his son ran away and even ended killing him. Convince Takemura that this is way beyond any principles and too immoral to justify any honor and loyalty to that man, convince him to start a new life with us as a friend, so we can make him happy (and maybe avoid him taking his own life?) if we decide to decline the Arasaka offer.

[@elibrah.l.2306]

He is truly the hierophant, the respect of rules and hierarchy

[@CircusofPython]

People get upset you can’t get Takemura to stop being loyal to Arasaka but…that’s the entire point in writing complex characters in a gray world.

[@sandevastated1]

My footage got corrupted so I'm using this for my lore video, you will be credited

[@napoleonplzx]

Feel free to use it choom

[@Dreikov]

Part of me wanted to bid him farewell in japanese: "Saraba, tomoe"...

[@smithwesson1896]

I understood that reference

[@cammycox3354]

Goro probably did leave Arasaka eventually if he realised V died in space or died somewhere else due to the treatment or he finally saw his Honor requires contemplation to reconnect with

[@pkrisnanda]

If you save takemura till the end, and played the secret ending "Dont fear the Ripper", he send you a video message about going to do Seppuku. *edit. if you finish the secret ending.

[@napoleonplzx]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnu8ZnaNgNpsgMk&ab_channel=Rei uploaded video about that

[@pkrisnanda]

@enid that make sense. because every ending other than the devil ending and suicide ending means we storm Arasaka tower, just with different people.

[@prismanic24]

Should've been the straight romance instead of River

[@napoleonplzx]

Or have both options

[@Mikeh2077]

“You were very strong medicine, V.”

[@Sam-vk8xd]

It’s interesting how Johny, Takemura, and Reed all share a common theme of loss. Johny wants to change the world, but becomes so filled with hatred due to the corps running the world and ultimately becomes so obsessed with taking down arasaka that he loses many meaningful relationships and ultimately his life. Takemura’s incredible loyalty and honor lead him to becoming a lap dog for the Arasaka family. This loyalty becomes chains he refuses to break free from, even when he knows he is seen as a mere tool to them. The arasaka family is all he has ever known and is afraid to lose that. Reed is much like Takemura, a man who has a big heart for all of his team. Yet will make choices that create rifts between them. Every choice he makes is a regret and every choice take something from him, he has lost much, he himself is lost.

[@pedropierre9594]

Samurai dont go back on their word, they will die before that happens, that is what Takemura will do before dishonoring his bows, he even reads Musashi's 5 rings

[@TheHollowedKing754]

Damn the small mention of V wanting Goro to feed cats, calls all the way back to the beginning of raiding that facility for the float for the parade, Goro talks about a cat and him and V saw on a roof

[@necrodamus5481]

By logic. Since Takemura failed to protect Saburo Arasaka and seeing as how Takemura shares so many parrells with a samurai and knowing his failure brought great dishonor to the company and even to himself. Shouldnt Arasaka have gave him the honor to commit Seppuku to regain what he lost? Arasaka is never raising their glasses to him. They likely all see him as a pariah on pair with streetkid trash

[@doublewidesuprise5208]

I love to think that shortly after seeing V leave and die, Takemura resigned from arasaka and lived free

[@gaffgarion7049]

He's a Samurai, loyal to his lord.

[@MythicFox]

I've always liked Takemura and what he represents. Cyberpunk fiction as a genre has always invoked samurai imagery in the way it's presented not only mercenaries but even hackers, equating the skill of a good hacker to that of the legends of samurai swordsmen. The Plague in the film 'Hackers' even makes the comparison, and if you look at Cowboy Bebop the main cast mostly parallels Lupin III and his crew: Lupin and Spike, Jigen and Jet, Fujiko and Faye, but the main seeming difference is Goemon and Ed * Ein. I always took it like Goemon and Ed are meant to be equivalent, the highly-skilled weirdo reflecting a specific culture the rest of their group don't quite grasp, but again we've got samurai and hackers. A lot of cyberpunk fiction likens megacorps like feudal lords, as well. The 'honorable man serving a dishonorable lord' is a classic trope of samurai fiction, and Takemura is a representation of that translated beautifully into the cyberpunk genre. And while you do get into it with him regarding Arasaka a few times over the course of the game, especially during the scouting mission, I always wished there was a way to explicitly point out that Night City is the way it is *because* Arasaka decided it needed to be that way. 'Filthy cities full of desperate poor people' is the world paying the cost of that 'civilized' high life that Takemura respects so much. I wish you could ask him if he would have still become a child soldier if the place where he grew up hadn't sucked so much it was the best way out. While this isn't the case for all of them, many of the cyberpsychos Regina asks you to capture got that way because someone made the conscious choice to betray them and at the very least let them become monsters (if not directly caused it). The dead bodies you see strewn around cyberpsycho lairs are the costs being paid so some Arasaka or Militech exec can expense a fancy lunch. Night City's condition is a choice Arasaka made. Of course, Takemura is flawed, too. Despite his seeming naivety in places, maybe he does see all this and has made his choice. After all, a lot of 'honorable samurai serving dishonorable lord' stories end with the most honorable solution offered to such a samurai -- seppuku as a form of protest. And last I checked, I don't think there's a point where we see Takemura offering to perform the three cuts. But regardless, he's a compelling character and I think it'd be interesting to see a Cyberpunk story in that vein where he (or a player-built character with a similar backstory) is the protagonist.

[@Sizifus]

Like Arthur told to John: "Be loyal to what matters", however, Takemura never had a chance to experience life that was worth living outside of Arasaka, before being taken by them, he lived in abject poverty.

[@ZachPrime]

I love takamura as a person, even if I disagree with literally every decision he makes. Unshakable loyalty, but I appreciate that even when we're telling him to abandon everything that he holds dear he knows that it is purely because we actually care about him. An honest to God Street Samurai.

[@ant1724]

Takemura suit is like a Gi and a suit mixed into one and its pretty fly.

[@crassiewassie8354]

Takemura is probably my favorite character in cyberpunk He's very lovable but I hate the corporations. Had it been different Takemura and I would have destroyed Arasaka but he's too far gone.

[@charcole400]

I wish goro left with V and the nomads

[@yesman350]

A real Choom. I knew I could save you

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

Why can't we meet with him after completing Aldecaldos quests and convince him to join them early in the game?

[@Dark_Voice]

Because he was taken from his slum at too early age to be changed. He's simply brainwashed into being an Arasaka lapdog with no chance of changing that.

[@BlackTearDrop]

Wish you could say this to him in other ending and have him follow through.

[@Greendotz]

Shame, I really like Takemura and he grows on you a lot during your missions. It's a shame the only way for him to truely recipicate and treat you as a friend is for you to go down the Arasaka route, which is debatedly the 'bad' (or at least bitter-sweet) ending. Does this choice lead him to leave a 'nice' phone message on the credit role call? The only one I've seen is him damning you to hell before he seemingly commits suicide.

[@napoleonplzx]

Sadly it doesn't, you won't get any post-credit message on Arasaka and "offing yourself" route. You'll only get the damning you one after you attack arasaka tower on any methods, doesn't even matter if you give your body to Johnny it's still the same.

[@sketchflix6425]

Definition of Lawful Good+Evil

[@cor7ger7g43]

Not gonna lie, in my personal head canon- If you accept the deal with Takemura they will later resurrect V in an artificial body much like Smasher's body was as V would have killed him leaving a hole in Arasaka's fear factor. An aged Takemura gives up the mantle of bodyguard of the Arasaka family to V as only the best warrior could carry on his teachings like Oda. This new V would fight much like Oda too because of this but much, much more lethal using the sandevistan and with the firepower that smashed Adam to bits. This new V would be an anonymous monster at Arasaka's side in a sequel game under a mask and cloak with blood red mantis blades who occasionally chases the player but can't be defeated or even shot as they dodge everything with blurring speed until the very end.

[@damokay254]

In the top building when you recon to attack the av facility he says that sometimes he wants to be a nomad

[@orionpax4253]

Man can you imagine he legit becomes a nomad and finds his ways to the aldecados and helps V get to mikoshi with the gang! (Maybe he could have been the sacrifice instead or saul) In the he rides out with everyone in the end, maybe finally showing some enthusiam or optimisim before we get the final cutscene of V and panam!

[@andrefranciscosoares3119]

I only saved him during my 1st playthrought along with oda i let them die in my other playthrought he is like naruto of the leaf to arasaka completly brainwashed to be loyal

[@maning04]

It sucks that you can't persuade Goro to join you run away from NC with Panam and the rest of the Aldecados. Goro is such a good man, sadly he's blinded by loyalty to Arasaka who only sees him as a pawn.

[@n543576]

Holy shit I didn't even know it was possible to save him. He was easily my favorite character in the game I it hurt thta every playthrough I had he "had" to die. Now I know he can survive!

[@Tifsa123]

Male V voice suits the lines better just accent wise I think

[@alexsolomon7991]

you know..i wonder what takemura's breakign point would be. Yorinobu became host to his father, on the orders of Saburo's engram..who was pulling Hanako's strings the entire time. Would he STILL maintain loyalty if, as a last bit of defiance, Yori killed himself and Saburo turned toHhanako or Michiko as a host? after all, there's nothing "wrong" with them as host bodies that a few cosmetic surguries and implants wouldn't fix.

[@messiahep3249]

what makes him strong to be given the title of body guard to the emperor of all people? he obviously isnt a Adam Smasher type of character or anything

[@found6393]

It's his unswerving loyalty and borderline fanaticism. That's what Saburo Arasaka saw in him the day he chose Takemura to be his bodyguard.

[@messiahep3249]

nvm i take this back even V recognized how much of a threat he could be even without his implants. i still don’t think he’s an adam smasher type but a 2x better version of his apprentice Oda most likely

[@MrWizardjr9]

looks can be deceiving and when hes serving as body guard he probably has all kinds of OP implants

[@messiahep3249]

@@MrWizardjr9 yeah when i started playing deeper into the game i noticed all his implants his whole next and im assuming his whole chest is full of arasako tech.

[@the_brainwavess]

pick up that phone for once dude

[@napoleonplzx]

Haha I think that's like the texts you got from gigs, like I redid a lot of side quests since I lost a lot of progress when I just discovered that Takemura can be saved, and most of them has like bonus(with text) if you do the optional. But yeah didn't notice that there 😂

[@firemarshallbob4540]

It’s not the blind obedience that is carried in Takemura. It is quite literally a life devotion, a giri. Goro had relinquished his life in service to Saburo and by extension Hanako. He can have conflicting opinions about the corp but it is his sacrifice of self and personal life duty to serve Arasaka. He is Saburo’s closest ally, not being an immediate family member.

[@witchingjokress]

I was so sad when he cursed me in my first ending. Thought I was good friends with him :// lost my respect for him afterwards... Still a great character even tho he showed his true colours (imo) in the Arasaka ending. Thought he left them for good when he was working with us.

[@tonyblitz1]

A good man.

[@yaminoonna3218]

Can I just kiss him 😭

[@Brutal_Cabrera]

Who's here after getting the new alternative ending for the main game after phantam liberty?

[@Noobmasterr44]

Japanese give their life for the company, kiroshi

[@johnny-kun2280]

I totally missed this part cause I was gun blazing forward to Yorinubo.. disappointed he wasnt a boss fight in the end.. sad

[@Shadow11550]

Sad thing is V dies in all endings

[@MrExcitement111]

It’s Fallout 3 all over again.

[@TheFlyingPilgrim]

The epilogue with Misty makes me think V can survive, but my guess is they’ll dangle V’s fate as a DLC premise. Or if not that, something for a sequel.

[@Shadow11550]

@@TheFlyingPilgrim I think the casino in the city legend ending is going to be dlc. Also in the nomad ending they hint that the omega blockers are helping with the damage from the chip so idk

[@royalpain6338]

The thing is alt fucking lies along with arasaka and the mr blue eyes guy is more then likely the same guy fucking with the mayor. All parties have a vested interest in making sure V thinks there is no cure, Alt and blue are probably planning a second against humanity using the raw power of the ai's in mikoshi and arasaka 100% wants the merc who has been talking to silverhand wiped off the map, there is not a doubt in my mind V is perfectly fine, might have their life cut short by maybe a decade or be able to cure themselves in a really easy way, ie just clone another body and upload v to it.

[@TheFlyingPilgrim]

@@royalpain6338 I like that theory, though I thought cloning and transferring a consciousness are supposed to be a big deal in the Cyberpunk universe? At least, I remember hearing that even in 2020’s tabletop lore, Saburo was preparing for his consciousness to be coded into an AI for when he finally passed. He was wanting to find a way to make that work with cloning, unless I’m misremembering.

[@shadowviruz]

Takemura and Kerry are the best side characters in the game. Wish I could trade all the time with Jackie for more time with either XD

[@BNumbersStation]

I want to like Goro, but his character does to many 180s and I think he's kind of a prick in any ending that isn't the Arasaka ending. I really wish there were more interactions with him where you could realistically convince him to walk away.

[@jugel4533]

How is he still alive? He died for me in the mission to capture Hanako during the parade

[@samuraivader3814]

You can take a path back to him the game doesn't tell you about. I just double jumped back up where you fall from

[@napoleonplzx]

In the mission search and destroy, you can save him by going up from where you fall. It wasn't obvious because Johnny said that he's already toast, turns out he was still holding out. I missed it on my first playthrough too and when I knew this was possible, I loaded my very old save file (good thing I save a ton 😅) but lost a lot of progress on the sidequest in the process.

[@fartyfat6539]

@@napoleonplzx the moment Johnny said that he died, i googled if its possible to save Takemura, and turns out it is.

[@fr0ske669]

@@napoleonplzx oh my god fuckin johnny i had no idea, i would have saved him i liked his character

[@tigrispanthera5496]

arthur morgan in 2077