Cyberpunk 2077: Stadia vs Xbox Series X - And The Results Are Surprising!

[@alexweinberg3913]

Richard went insane working on this one. Incredible work.

[@poopoo5576]

In Richard we trust

[@blacklung9020]

Brains of the operation

[@Canadian_Gamer]

"Wichard Ledbwedder loves his Pway-station P-woah..."

[@JP-qb8qx]

I think it was very credible, tbh.

[@Canadian_Gamer]

@@JP-qb8qx "Pwease subscwibe to our Pwaytreon..." 😂🤣

[@rowedav]

I love DF videos - I do - but if I have one nitpick its this: please be consistent with the side-by-side comparison shots. In some, you have Series X is on the left, in others - seconds later - its on the right. Makes it very confusing to the audience when they are constantly switching.

[@TheFirestriker101]

Noticed that too

[@kanwang4220]

Also the Stadia logo is gone for some of the comparisons: 09:26, 09:55, 10:16, 10:25, 10:55, 11:06

[@theterra-path7798]

It's probably just the fact that "no one is perfect"

[@AceCmbatguy25]

@@theterra-path7798 True but constructive criticism is very important and also shows we care !

[@vijaygiribabu142]

The theme is right is better than left.. hence he puts stadia and xbox series x accordingly..

[@Wayneextremity]

Rich taking a break from his job at FakeTaxi to go and record this amazing gameplay capture for us

[@Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX]

Oi luv u 'aven't got no dosh? Git in the back 'nd count these pixels.

[@DerdOn0ner]

@@Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX lmao

[@rahulrajendran7443]

This has me dead 😂😂😂😂

[@spongebobsquarepants675]

@@Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX pretty accurate

[@erickmarquez506]

Everybody got the joke... brilliant...

[@Dash101]

My Lord is that dedication in these times to get the game running at top performance on Stadia. DF doing it again.

[@DanielRieger]

I run top performance at home... 300mb internet is more than enough. Hell.. 100mb should be good

[@startedtech]

I'm amazed that no one at DF has good enough internet to do this from their home

[@zadarblack]

Sadly top performances is not possible on a pc on wifi. You need. Chromecast ultra on Ethernet for that. I dont experience the frame pacing issues on chromecast ultra and i have lower imput lag.

[@JeffreyThrash]

@@zadarblack Would connecting your PC directly through wired Ethernet help achieve top performance, or does it have to be a Chromecast with Stadia?

[@zadarblack]

@@JeffreyThrash sadly wifi vs wired ethernet would only fix latency and input lag. The issue is on chrome its lower bitrate so much more compression artifact and much worst Lightning and contrast and sharpness. Its also more fluid on ccu so seem framerate a tad better too.

[@DustinUriah]

Richard using his netrunner skills for the greater good.

[@DEMediaDrive]

Lol @ greater good.

[@TheNickmelchiori]

@@DEMediaDrive Sounds like Tau propaganda

[@tomvandongen8075]

Police officer: "excuse me sir, can you step out of the car for a moment..."

[@Packtouchdown]

"R u a Russian spy"?

[@alexsilva28]

-Certainty officer. (I've been discovered. ABORT MISSION. I REPEAT ABORT)

[@Hoytehablode]

8 Gigabyte per HOUR, if you are able to get 8 gigabyte per second that would have been one hell of a wifi connection hehehehe

[@anjishnulahiri9600]

Thats like 50 years away lol

[@glt918]

@olive oil should be Banned! America's only

[@kipa_chu]

@@anjishnulahiri9600 I have 1.2 Gbps for just 40$ per month, no fup limit, truly unlimited.

[@ItsJust_Sins]

@olive oil should be Banned! I have got it 3 times. If you are not old a newborn or have a weak immune system you will be just fine.

[@anjishnulahiri9600]

@@kipa_chu pay attention kid that's 1.2 Gbps and we are talking 8GBps.

[@519Valentine]

Didn't score a ps5 and sold my ps4. Google Stadia saved the day though!

[@johnnyfkingsilverhand7120]

You wouldve never saw me on a PS4.

[@hayk3000]

Not really. Google blocks the competition and offers an inferior product. I'm stuck playing RDR II on stuttering 720p when I could play it on ultra and 4k on Geforce Now.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

@@hayk3000 GeForce doesn’t support 4k, shield will only use upscaling.

[@darkmaster539]

@@hayk3000 geforce does not support red dead 2, and only streams 1080p on games it does support.

[@mehdiadam6043]

Richard has a better gaming setup in his car than me in my house damn

[@HelveticaBold1]

Wow, to get us this video is dedication. Appreciate the passion for games and their technology (salutes).

[@Skippernomnomnom]

Digital Foundry "Let's find ideal conditions for this comparison" *Gets on public WiFi with a bluetooth controller connected to a 1080p monitor forcing 4k*

[@cevxj]

lmao

[@benjiiano4077]

200Mbps at 14ms ping is much better than a lot of other consumers will have. Also, screen quality will not differ with the use of a other controller. Lastly, forcing 4k does not alter the stream from a non-forced 4k, but they did not even mention they are forcing it. They just say Stadia Enhanced *CAN* force 4k, not that they do so.

[@Skippernomnomnom]

@@benjiiano4077 Most of what I said was a joke. However, using a bluetooth controller with Stadia will have noticably more latency than with the Wifi controller.

[@DesuVR]

Some of the clips are missing logos, can't tell which platform I'm looking at when it's the main focus.

[@ary8956]

and here's another interesting difference: atoms appear much sharper in series x but Microsoft console seem to be missing some of the electrons present in Google stadia

[@battleroyale1056]

GEFORCE NOW > STADIA

[@tylerplayzz8697]

@@battleroyale1056 They both have their ups and downs, stadia has 4k, no queue whether you pay for stadia pro or not, and unlimited session time but you have to buy games specifically for stadia like how consoles work . GeForce Now has ray tracing(on supported games if you have a founders membership) , wider mobile support, you can play pc games you already own, but there is a limited session length and there is a usually ridiculously long queue if you don't have a founders membership.

[@maxmustardman298]

@@tylerplayzz8697 how about shadow pc ?

[@tylerplayzz8697]

@@maxmustardman298 It's just a full win 10 pc you can stream, no limits on what you can do with it as long as you have good wifi.

[@foxhound6364]

@@maxmustardman298 Shadow PC has a pretty bad CPU, so performance in games is lower than what a GTX 1080 is usually capable of. Games usually run the same, or even somewhat worse than my GTX 1060 rig, though I still use Shadow because having a remote, always available PC is incredibly convenient.

[@watcheem]

England: Public wi-fi at 200mbit USA: Storm the Capitol

[@flannelsykes0]

We Brits would have a revolution, but it'd have to be after tea and cake.

[@funky7chunky]

@@flannelsykes0 you must be a southerner

[@canzarpli]

Turkey: 24mbit take it or leave it

[@flannelsykes0]

@@funky7chunky More in the middle where we talk very...very slowly and drink Bovril.

[@carolinagamer2874]

Leeroy Jenkins!!

[@ninjapants7688]

"What version do you have CyberPunk on? "Stadia... through a laptop... in a car... sitting in a lot near a phone tower" "Still better than the Xbox One version right?

[@megapro125]

the people living there are wondering why their parking lot is getting more crowded by the day😂

[@void1754]

@@megapro125 "What are you doing here ?" "Playing Cyberpunk." "Why HERE ?! Don't you have a PC or a console at home ?" "I have an OG PS4/Xbox One" "Oh... my condolences."

[@user-ok4du7nj5n]

It actually runs great on xbox one x but it's trash on base xbox one

[@headmaster2983]

PS4 version**

[@ninjapants7688]

@@user-ok4du7nj5n That's the one I was joking about. Well that and the base PS4 version.

[@Stormz.1337]

Rich "MacGyver" Leadbetter, Ladies and Gentlemen XD

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

With hands movements like his, you can only expect ingenuity.

[@GameFusionCloud]

Glad to see Cloud making into your comparisons and also great to see parity with our findings

[@badazzmorris]

Digital Foundry - Spot the Difference Champions 2021 🏆

[@feldartillerie1620]

Nx gamer is better...

[@MyReksio]

@@feldartillerie1620: Nah :)

[@Ponyfox]

@@feldartillerie1620 Not better. Different. Variety is the spice of life my friend. Your comment made me watch him and just finished his top 7 tech of 2020. made me subscribe.

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

@@feldartillerie1620 he's definetly less biased

[@MrGoldenfresh]

@@feldartillerie1620 gonna check him out

[@nix2939]

2:22 There's definitely some guy somewhere with a laptop wondering why his KZbin videos keep buffering

[@superjasim]

I don’t get it!

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@superjasim he's using someone's wifi

[@brup123]

@@MaxIronsThird He isn't, and even if he was he'd never admit it as I'm pretty sure there are consequences for using someone's private network without permission. Like he says in the video, it's a public wifi spot so anyone is allowed to use it for free.

[@Kidsnd274]

@@brup123 Pretty sure he just meant that he's using a wifi network that doesn't belong to him, not that he was maliciously using someone's private wifi. Since it's public wifi, there are others sharing that connection and him using Stadia might be sucking up all the bandwidth. That's all @Nix meant.

[@crherm]

The most surprising part about this video is the lack of fast, reliable internet “in the COVID era”. The US doesn’t get a great reputation for internet speeds mainly because of the wide geographical spread and slow rural connections, but in a major city 1Gbps fiber isn’t incredibly tough to come by in a residential setting. What are things looking like in the UK that someone from a gaming video outlet needed to sit in a car somewhere in order to get 60 Mbps??

[@marknewcombe2488]

It’s a worry as the UK does have gigabit connections. I get decent 550 down I live up north. Not sure why he wouldn’t be able to get close to a good connection, even in Covid times. Really strange.

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

Yeah that line stuck out to me too. Not only that, but on your connection, if you’re at least pulling 15-35 mbps and have low latency, it’s incredibly playable.

[@jaffaman99]

It’s quite confusing, Uk internet is pretty good overall, especially in built up areas with gigabit increasingly common. I use a rock solid 550mb for £59 a month with unlimited bandwidth.

[@jaisaxena4752]

They lied about taking a break for holidays 😂

[@jurgenjurgen4052]

So DF is going outside for us?🤔 This year is starting goood 😅😅😅

[@drawingyourdreams]

played Stadia version for 34 hours so far. Only 2 small bugs so far where meshes disappeared. It's wonderful

[@dragonthc]

You will see more bugs. Honestly, I'm playing on PC and the patches have gotten consistently less stable for me. 1.04 had the best performance. 1.05 had performance problems. 1.06 crashes for me.

[@RealTylerDurden]

Cool story.

[@drawingyourdreams]

@@dragonthc You say PC - are you talking about PC version of Stadia version via PC - Because I tried it on PC (Steam) version first and it was sooo buggy I had to get a refund and then I moved to playing on Stadia version

[@TheAQWShadow]

@@dragonthc I get you my man. I played 52 hours on PC and had a lot of bugs and weird issues on it. Now I'm 20 hours into it on Stadia and I've yet to see any problems, but that might change with time.

[@RealTylerDurden]

STADIA IS DEAD!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CyberPonz-nc3oh]

Plot twist: the glitches are just Johnny Silverhand messing with you.!

[@InnuendoXP]

Plot twist: the meta is that Cyberpunk 2077 exists in a simulation. V discovers they're in a simulation & wants to know how they wake up. Then they realise they are themselves, a simulation. Then your PS4 bricks itself.

[@maxpayenvenic6029]

Plot twist: ps4 and xbox one version is just a prank

[@mrpiratefox4497]

Johnny wasnt happy when fucking up with V so he started to fuck with the game code

[@ary8956]

literary saw this exact same comment a billion times

[@deadflexxx]

Thats what CDPR shoulda said hahahah

[@SoulSoreOriginal]

0:28 that shitty LOD get me every time...

[@Deliveredmean42]

That's not a texture, that's straight up LOD popping.

[@Sheogorath-]

Didnt get that on my playthrough (PC) but ive seen it on like every gameplay on yt lol

[@tewbeegooby5673]

This testing is fucking nuts you guys are the bar for a reason. Killer work.

[@Akashmash]

Cheers for this guys, doing the lord's work out here for us.

[@alanv1233]

The Lord is comparing cyberpunk 2077 on stadia and series x?

[@Akashmash]

@@alanv1233 nah Digital Foundry beat him to it

[@ATX_Engineer]

They failed us here. The game is unplayable during peak hours. Its a stuttering mess. This is across the platform, for everyone.

[@Brentt777]

What a joke

[@TropicaIJay]

Getting my series X next month, I'm so excited 😭

[@k1ngk4gl3]

Hey! Congrats!

[@orangepuffy1317]

@ shut up

[@TropicaIJay]

@ thanks buddy!

[@void1754]

It's an amazing console and the game is great even with the bugs and stuff, it's far from perfect but it's a very good game ! Currently on my second 100% run after getting all the Achievements, the replayability is pretty good too ;) EDIT : Performance mode is a must, the details are good enough, so I'd suggest going for that mode instead of Quality.

[@anjishnulahiri9600]

@@void1754 yeah pretty good game. 😭😭 But I can't play it. Gotta wait like 5 years :(

[@launch_game_exe]

So how's your time-off going Richard? Richard: 1:25!

[@ThatGamerJ0se]

So glad that the Stadia port of this game is getting a reviewed by you guys! It really shows the power of the platform when developers put the time/money in. Thanks rich!

[@battleroyale1056]

GEFORCE NOW > STADIA

[@Nsfwstar]

@@battleroyale1056 after play both i have to say the answer is not that simple

[@ThatGamerJ0se]

@@battleroyale1056 it's okay to be wrong.

[@ThatGamerJ0se]

@@Nsfwstar I simply don't like it for them pulling games and that even founders end up having queues

[@1meen1]

@@battleroyale1056 The performance? Yes, the queues for waiting to play? No

[@abdur1996]

This is insane and commendable. Love the didcation and incredible work as always +1

[@penumbrum3135]

15:17 : "Everyone who wants it can access Stadia." My internet connection: "No,I don't think I will."

[@Duhbyo47]

For what it’s worth, if you don’t have capped internet, or your cap is high, you can probably run Stadia consistently. Destiny 2 and bomber man are completely free to play if you want to give it a shot :)

[@penumbrum3135]

@@Duhbyo47 Even if you have a connection capable of streaming Stadia you still need to live in a country where the servers are available.

[@kaideh]

@@penumbrum3135 If you live in Europe, it works well independent of where you are.

[@1meen1]

@@kaideh Tried it on 4GLTE at 720p. It works well.

[@TheAQWShadow]

@@Duhbyo47 I still cannot believe data caps are a thing. Just found out about them the other day, about how Americans generally have a very limited selection of ISPs to choose from and most of them have data caps. They are non-existent in 95% of Europe. You guys need a revolution.

[@Rolanelpaladin]

To be fair, test it with a 200 mb conection, ethernet, chromecast, and the stadia controller. Thats the best experience for now with stadia and is a very good one, the possibility that you can use stadia on your laptop, tablet, phone with wifi, 4G, 5G or ethernet is a plus not a detriment. You guys are the best media for technical specs on videogames but give it a better try to stadia and remember, cloud gaming is the future, just as netflix is the present and blockbuster the past. Consoles and gaming pc are amazing but what google with stadia, amazon with Luna and xbox with xcloud are doing is amazing also and for sure will be the way the majority will play in the near future.

[@ahomicidaltaco]

"Cloud gaming is the future" LOL

[@ZoomZoom870atGmail]

@@ahomicidaltaco I mean there's probably a reason even Xbox, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and PlayStation are investing in it.

[@balkje]

@@ahomicidaltaco It will be in the future, just not right now. Because some countries like America still have shit internet

[@PumpedSmartass]

Finally, my weekly dose of Digital Foundry. Still hot and crispy. Yumm !

[@erpatt]

Would like to see a comparison with the GeForce NOW version.

[@pancon5]

No way to measure anything but it felt like a great 1080p @ 60 experience (rtx on!)

[@EdwinDPZ]

Geforce now version wins. Despite only being limited to 1080p you can use higher bit rates on Geforce now and you can turn on RTX.

[@Keepskatin]

@@EdwinDPZ Game streaming is the future, to control you gamers and milk you

[@tek1645]

@@Keepskatin how is that in anyway relevant?

[@ru2225]

@@Keepskatin keep your tinfoil hat on bud

[@alishahrose2076]

The amount of effort these guys make to deliver such high quality video is really commendable.

[@MarioTainaka]

Richard literally MacGyvered a capture to bring us this analysis. That's some dedication.

[@username65585]

CD Projekt CEO did say that the Stadia build was “basically the PC version”.

[@luuketaylor]

At this point, anything he says is going to be taken with a huge grain of salt. He may be right, but he has also said far too many untruths lately. I'd trust Richard far more at this point!

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@luuketaylor Never trust a guy with only 50Mbps Internet :)

[@franscartoons]

I had given up on stadia early last year, but I thought I'd try it again for cyberpunk, as it's amazing. I'm in the UK and on a countryside connection, yet stadia runs near flawlessly. Only issues I've had were in-game glitches, and a few brief stutters over 10+ hours of gameplay. (Using pro in quality mode with Chromecast ultra & stadia controller)

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

Congrats you played yourself got conned into stadia

[@franscartoons]

@@TristanTheVRGamecat lol. Still playing it on stadia and it's great. What are you playing it on?

[@24xblitz]

What he did to capture this is legendary lol

[@GamerInVoid]

So Early.. Cyberpunk is still in Development

[@mpforeverunlimited]

Its in development right now though lol

[@sdewey4152]

Funnily enough this is considered 10 years of updates to Bethesda.

[@COHOFSohamSengupta]

@@sdewey4152 funny though, a broken game is a broken game regardless of the devs unless you have *DOUBLE STANDARDS*

[@sdewey4152]

@@COHOFSohamSengupta which I don't, that's why I've questioned the fact for over a decade and been given nothing but "mods" as an excuse from the FO/TeS inbreds.

[@thomasgiles2876]

I remember when I would take breaks from waiting tables and play DS in my car, this is some Next Level shiz....

[@_richardaustin]

Can we just appreciate the work and effort that went into this video. The setup and finding the best connection for the best and fairest breakdown of Stadia alone but then having to painstakingly count each frame by eye to make sure it’s proper and no wrong frames accounted. Incredible. Hats off to Richard and DF

[@UsualKillerThug]

Can't wait for the series S|X update for this game

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

And in 1-2 years, Stadia hardware upgrades will then beat that. So you'll have to get a PS5 Pro.. and 2 years later again.. and again.. and again..

[@hugoboss917]

@@LarsRyeJeppesen stadia hardware yed, but internet will bottleneck it. Anyway my sky Internet so often cuts out at random time I would go insane

[@TheGamingCircle]

That's why I call him "KingTechWizardRichard" Jeez!!!

[@GTS300Coupe]

Witchad

[@beau9956]

You guys are insane! The dedication to your craft.. recording this in your car while it's literally freezing outside! The quality of your production is second to none. It's no wonder that you guys are the bar for this kind of content on KZbin.

[@Clouds4Cheap]

Rich! Bless you for your work!

[@IAt0m1xI]

This video right here just shows how dedicated this channel is. Good one Rick!!!!

[@agspr]

although I'm a big Stadia fan and love to see this, I feel what we're really seeing here is how "unlocking" the potential of a platform is all about who's doing the work. the core game is buggy all around, but i feel the success of the Stadia version wouldn't have been possible if it had been done by CD Projekt Red themselves. trying to juggle so many different versions must be a nightmare, and Stadia benefitted from this. I hope Google starts asking more from developers going forward so that Stadia players can experience great ports (like CP2077, The Division 2, Doom Eternal) in every game on the platform.

[@STANNY8]

Love the lengths you go to to get us the info we need.

[@Justin0071]

This isn't the Series X version though? Just a slightly upgraded Xbox One until they update it

[@TowerMike]

But you knew what they meant though right?

[@D2Kprime]

@@TowerMike It's not what they meant. It was click-bait.

[@zackariasevertson7733]

And what makes you think it will be better once the next gen patch arrives? Valhalla and Dirt 5 was optimized day one yet series x underperformed

[@MXgpRoGaming]

@@zackariasevertson7733 yes but now they perform fine after another patch what fixed the performance issue

[@IROCKYGAMES]

@@zackariasevertson7733 only an idiot could believe a patch wouldn’t fix something🐞🍬

[@xyo2434]

Yesss! Please do more Stadia-related videos!

[@FrankenSama]

1:14-2:39 Modern problems require modern solutions

[@Kikwatz]

It also runs mostly flawlessly in 4K on a rather "weak" Internet connection (40 down, 5 up). According to Google 35mbit would be enough and for full hd even just about 25mbit. The more important factor is how stable the connection is and maybe also its ping, but I'm no expert ;) For casual gamers like me who work with/uses Apple (and sometimes Linux) and don't wanna buy a next gen console, Stadia is the perfect solution.

[@jonathanxdoe]

Stadia vs GeForce Now with RTX vs PC RTX, that's the video I'm looking for. I'm currently using gfn and it is quite good. It is also good to be able to go back to my local installation anytime I want to...

[@dragonthc]

Careful now, you'll upset the stadia fanatics.

[@Yogarine]

GeForce Now, _is_ a PC. So if you get a similarly specced PC and limit the resolution to 1080p, that's pretty much what you'll get when streaming it over GeForce Now.

[@RaigyoEcU]

Yeah some love for GeForce Now

[@Turbo35]

I would prefer Geforce now because there I own the game. I don't like the idea of paying for a subscription service and then buying the game full price.

[@Yogarine]

@@Turbo35 Except, on Stadia you don't need to pay a subscription... You just buy the game. Access to the service is free. And you only "own" the game in the sense that you can download the Steam version on your PC. It's still just a digital license that can be revoked just the same.

[@aishwaryagaidhane]

Rich, your car at 2:00 looks like it came out of cyberpunk 2020, playing cyberpunk 2077, in 2020. So rad, so dedicated, much wow :)

[@ScrapKing73]

I love the futuristic look of the BMW i3. One of my favourite EVs. :-)

[@aishwaryagaidhane]

@@ScrapKing73 i wasn't commenting about the looks of tge car per se, it was that janky triple screen setup, one laptop, one capture screen, one in built infotainment, and cables and all. But yeah the i3 looks ahead of the time in a sense from the outside too. Happy new year :)

[@SimplexPL]

Title should say "Results will suprise you!", then it would be proper clickbait.

[@thestepback]

Not sure if you knew this, but built-in Stadia captures are made server side (screenshots and clips). It could be, therefore, easier to work with for pixel counting as the network deviations and stream issues are out of the equation. Maybe even 30s clips could be usable for frame rate graphs. You'd have to download it as Stadia web player for clips is capped at 30fps. I only used it to confirm whether stutters are in-game (server-side) or caused by my network and stream and to confirm whether game actually runs consistent 60fps. Additionally, even longer Stadia direct KZbin streams would not be impacted by frame loss or stutters introduced by your network conditions. A big disclaimer is that those Stadia captures look better than the game-stream itself.

[@Sir_Caffeine]

Digital Foundry keeps on delivering the best videos of KZbin. 👍

[@Sir_Caffeine]

@@XZ-III I mean videos analysing video games. NX Gamer is also quite good!

[@JoeCobragaming]

1:31 this is why I love digital foundry. Richard and the boys don't mess around lol

[@oisiaa]

wait, wait, wait...the Digital Foundry guys resorted to 4g to test Stadia because they don't have solid internet??? Mind blown.

[@RobertoGongora]

I hope Richard or the DF team reads this, but, it would be a HUGE help if you guys could add some kind of graphic showing the resolution numbers whenever you're explaining the min/max for dynamic res, because as a bilingual viewer, it's REALLY difficult for me to think about numbers in english so I have to struggle or turn on closed captions, which isn't ideal. Keep up the great work guys!

[@RobertoGongora]

To be clear, I know there's actually a list of the min/max resolutions after Rich's done explaining, and that really helps, but what I mean is at the moment when numbers start popping out, it's really hard for me (and I guess a lot of bilingual people) to focus on converting "Eighteen Hundred" to "One thousand, Eight Hundred" since that's how it works in Spanish.

[@ThePulsarRED]

Nice! Now please do a GFN vs Stadia comparison as well?

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

They're still waiting in line on GFN....

[@JamesGraydon]

Stadia wins this battle based on the fact that it is near impossible to get a PS5 or Xbox Series X. Just pay your 60.00 and start gaming instantly.

[@Jasphur]

@Maffew UK From What I understand: you buy the game on Stadia and as long as Stadia is live and you have a google account, you can play your bought games. Even if you don't have a Pro subscription. You don't rent anything, you actually buy a game and it stays yours...

[@souljastation5463]

@@Jasphur "as long as stadia is live" it could be years, it could be months.

[@souljastation5463]

I paid 60 on GOG and I'm playing it on PC.

[@bojidarmartinov5949]

@@souljastation5463 I'd rather switch from pc to mobile or tv whenever i want...

[@battleroyale1056]

GEFORCE NOW > STADIA

[@Arch_]

I don’t own a next gen console or a pc good enough to play cp77, so I picked up the game on Stadia and it’s been okay. I know it looks better on GeForce Now with RTX features enabled, but I’m fine with the Stadia version so far. In the future (hardware supplies permitting), I would still prefer to play natively on a beefy pc.

[@rahmed71]

Digital Foundry truly is the premier authority when it comes to studying game performance and other technical aspects. No competition!

[@DTD963]

Happy to see another Stadia analysis!

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

Dunno why they bother, biggest flop in gaming apart from anthem

[@soyboi_gx]

@@TristanTheVRGamecat lol no it's not

[@mark.nemeth]

I appreciate the work you put into this video, but do you really hold up the dropped frames against a game streaming service while you were playing on WIFI?? I dont know how things are in the UK, but even I can access a stable 1Gb wired connection without dropped packets, and I live on the wrong side of Europe.

[@3KPK3]

Honestly, I am not really interested in Cyberpunk anymore until they fix a lot of stuff. It's Unity all over again.

[@Brunn0121]

You guys went full big brain this time, wonderful work as always.

[@petejunior7075]

Field work! My guy is out here out in the field just to get the correct info for us consumers/gamers

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Greta work guys, sounds like a lot of work especially the part about checking individual dropped frames manually on whether its a video issues or a in-game issue.

[@Blemji]

You just made me realize I don’t have to wait for a ps5, I can just play it on my 4K MacBook display

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

You mean to tell me that the writer for one of the most popular tech review websites doesn't have access to a normal 50Mbps broadband connection in a home setting? ..

[@JZF629]

This is horrible! Is there no better internet available over there? I’m so sorry...

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Yeah I get 1000/1000 no cap for 45 euros a month. (I'm in Denmark)

[@TomCamies]

@@LarsRyeJeppesen I'm in the UK and have 900/900. I honestly have no idea what DF are on about with regards to internet during "covid times". Maybe they wanted to test Stadia on 4g/5g signal?

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@TomCamies That's nice! You be - you're right. Cheers

[@OGdrodro]

The time you took to sort all of this out need a like and sub

[@Totone56]

Got a refund on One X, bought the game on Stadia, and damn, it's been amazing. Played 50 hrs until now. Did get those frame pacing issues on Chrome indeed, but it's silky smooth on Chromecast Ultra + Stadia controller, huge difference actually, much better experience. Controls are just still a little "heavy", but it seems it's not network latency, it feels more like input lag on the game/system side. For exemple, Destiny 2 or Hitman 2 have no perceptible lag at all when i try them and compare to my One X. Litteraly nothing, feels like it's played locally (22ms of latency according to Stadia Enhanced). CP2077 feels very sluggish in comparaison, even in 60 FPS mode, even if it's better. Waiting to be able to buy a Series X when they are back in stock. But Stadia was godsent in the meantime to enjoy this game in good conditions.

[@RealTylerDurden]

Cool story. Why do all Stadia fanboys always sound like spam bots in comment sections?

[@PumpedSmartass]

It's not that bad on One X ... day1 was sux due to crashing every hour, but now it's fine ... but yeah, Stadia is obviously better still.

[@JuanSinMiedo441]

@@RealTylerDurden accept and let go. Follow the Tao.

[@MrVasteel]

@@RealTylerDurden doesn't sound that spammy, and it's hard to argue that it isn't better on Stadia based on this video.

[@Totone56]

@@RealTylerDurden Not even a fanboy, got the controller for free with my KZbin Music subscription, didn't even pay for the thing, only payed for the game. But if it's good, might as well say it, no ? Keeping telling everyone it's trash without even having tried it isn't really clever. That's a good option while waiting for Series X/PS5 stocks to come back if you want to play that game, that's all i'm saying.

[@alexsilva28]

Half expecting to see Richard in his car wearing dark glasses and a BT headset saying "I'M IN... "

[@fgpt4828]

Wow the 3 people playing on stadia must be interested

[@TheAQWShadow]

This joke stopped being entertaining at the end of 2019 bro

[@fgpt4828]

@@TheAQWShadow still going strong since the platform itself is the bigger joke

[@TheAQWShadow]

@@fgpt4828 I had this exact discussion about Steam with someone like you, 16 years ago.

[@dragowXX]

@@TheAQWShadow what joke ? just true no ?

[@Bandit7x7]

😂

[@lolzforlunch]

Im assuming the unique differences are because of the outsourcing of the port, causing different "switches" being flipped on and off to hit the framerate/quality markers. Im still gonna continue living my best life with stadia cause being able to play good games on my phone is just so rad, but i appreciate the deep dive and can't wait to see the game get more patches and continually get better ❤

[@DaveVoyles]

Wow, this review is some kind of dedication! Nicely done

[@RougeEric]

I suspect others have pointed this out, but the Stadia monitor (Stadia Enhanced, Stadia+, etc.) doesn't measure dropped frames in the game but in the stream. In fact all the data it reports is about the stream, and none about the game itself ;)

[@MANiACmiget925]

The lengths you went to record this video is really impressive and mind boggling 😂

[@555exh]

The split screen comparisons kept switching sides making it more difficult to keep track of which version is which. One moment he is showing Series X on the left then a second later it’s on the right. That aside this is a great job in analysis. Thank you.

[@cajunasian71]

Wait... an over 200 PUBLIC WIFI Connection? Dang Great Britain. They tried public wifi here in the States and it failed miserably. Possibly due to monetization... er I mean... hardware issues. 😉

[@Gravy1255]

The united states is also many times larger than Britan

[@cajunasian71]

@@Gravy1255 Seriously? That is a no shite statement. 😄 We are talking about MAJOR CITIES that "tried" to implement and removed PUBLIC WIFI quickly. Never attempted in the sticks.

[@ATX_Engineer]

@Maffew UK 3rd world? We invented the internet.

[@frankdnb1142]

I applaud you guys, this must be so tedious to do; looking for all these little details, shadows, etc. Super interesting.

[@ioannisd00]

This is the most contrived set up possible and something that 0.0001% of the population is likely to do. Got a FAIR comparison us a normal set up : Home connection with a handful of devices on a chrome cast Ultra.

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

Yeah I don’t understand. Why are they not testing it on a strong wireless, broadband, fiber optic, or wired connection?

[@dex6627]

@@TheMelonFarmers123 probably to try and make Xbox look worse

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

@@dex6627 more like give stadia any disadvantage they can to make an upraised xbox one port look comparable.

[@dex6627]

@@TheMelonFarmers123 “give stadia any disadvantage they can” HE DROVE TO A LITERAL PHONE TOWER TO DO IT Not exactly normal conditions that are a fair representation of normal use

[@Brentt777]

That's exactly what I was thinking. It's why I stopped subscribing.

[@metric152]

You went to some crazy lengths to get that data. Good on ya. Sounds like the stadia release for performance is a bit rough. Waiting on the native series X port for sure.

[@TheAQWShadow]

The Stadia version honestly runs better than my PC (got CP2077 on GoG and Stadia). I've spent £1100 on it in 2017... while on Stadia I've spent £0. That's a pretty good price-performance ratio if you ask me.

[@deckard3755]

Digital Foundry, famous for two things: fantastic tech reviews and saying "bespoke" every damn video.

[@diggerdieh]

I'm just here to applaud your profile picture sir.

[@edubogota1]

Rich is the only worth watching in DF.

[@deckard3755]

@@diggerdieh Hail to the king baby.

[@elidasilva5558]

1:53 That Netrunner deck setup Richard has is quite impressive

[@pagb666]

03:25 Per second! Jesus Christ xDD

[@ActNasty5]

Mine says over 500 on the test but doesn’t actually download that fast

[@moeisthis1490]

it says per hour

[@pagb666]

@@moeisthis1490 But Richard says per second xD

[@BDreGaming]

"Bespoke" hey that's John's word

[@mohammeddiallo3354]

The fact that DF had to go through all these hoops to bring us this makes Stadia a no go already lol

[@Juan.Irizar]

How so? Not everyone has bad internet connection, is healthy having options. I'll present you my case, I was a gamer, don't have much time to justify spending money on Gaming PC or Next Gen Console, but was happy to spend $60 dollars and get Cyberpunk + Free Chromecast and Controller. When I have some free time I can play Cyberpunk without any issues since I have good connection everywhere, for a low price of free after $60 Dollars investment.

[@kolbjrnkjeka9199]

The trouble you went through to get this video to us... Amazing. Great work!

[@TheAQWShadow]

As much as I LOVE the amount of work that was put in this video... just why is your setup so complicated? 90% of the people who use Stadia just plug in an ethernet wire (through their laptop or CCU) and they play it just fine. Wireless works too, I guess, but it's less stable.

[@nonnygb]

Impressive work DF! It's good to see Stadia is decent but I am more impressed by the Series X version simply because we've yet to see that being anything other than the backwards compatibility doing its thing (albeit it does have a quality/performance toggle). It will be really interesting to do this comparison over again once the next-gen patches arrive. Keep safe, keep doing what you're doing.

[@agspr]

definitely should do a second video with the Series X running the next gen version and Stadia running on ethernet.

[@gatnom]

There is another version missing you did not look at, GeForce Now. I'd like to see how that hold up against Stadia.

[@UnceasingElias]

Isn’t GeForce Now like playing on virtual gaming rigs? It would be like comparing the PC version to the console version. I don’t see why they would do this comparison other than comparing input lag.

[@gatnom]

@@UnceasingElias GFN does have it's own quality settings and also performance is in question. From your argument, there would be no need to compare the game on different PC setups either? If you want to see it that way, it could rather be something like "1080TI vs. 2080TI vs. 3080 vs. GFN".

[@UnceasingElias]

@@gatnom Oh cool I didn’t know that. Thank you!

[@LN.2233]

How does GeForce now work?

[@CaptainScarLeg]

​@@gatnom Pretty sure it has the same quality settings as the standard PC builds (you can change the settings to your liking) the only differences are the Ray Tracing options are disabled for free users and you can only get a 4k stream if you use an Nvidia Shield, and you can only play for an hour before having to queue up for another session. I play it on GFN free, runs fine using DF's optimized settings. I'd like to try the premium version with Ray Tracing but they're only offering 6 month plans right now because there are so many people flooding the servers to play Cyberpunk.

[@lionheart4424]

2:10 Now THAT is what the Cyberpunk 2077 meme is all about lmao. Great job guys!

[@dncewzrd]

I'm about 25 hours in on Stadia, and it's working almost flawlessly! I'm really shocked that it's working so well

[@drqnite9651]

It has always worked this great since beginning. Its the false media reporting that lead to the perception that it didnt work that well. People who actually tried were always blown away.

[@agspr]

I'm 80 hours in on Stadia, and loving it.

[@battleroyale1056]

GEFORCE NOW > STADIA

[@agspr]

@@battleroyale1056 that's just your opinion. they have their use cases.

[@mcnugget9497]

@@drqnite9651 it's not 100% false some people just don't have the internet for it lots of people with a console for even online games you can have the slowest internet and will run perfect

[@pancon5]

The game was a great experience on GeForce Now too, going for 1920x1080@60, high settings and ray tracing enabled. No waiting in queues whatsoever in 80 hours.