Cybertron Misconceptions

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In this video we will be talking about, why Cybertron looked different in each instalment of the Bayverse!
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[@Theorymus]

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[@thebluehurricaneburter8223]

Trans can you do if the twins or soundwave or shockwave

[@Indo-Fury6521]

I actually know a guy who made a similar video about this.

[@Future_Edits2.0]

Hey trans have you watched transformers prime

[@MrSerenata7]

Are you still working for Cliff video?🙏🙏🙏

[@zachariahrualo3599]

liked devastators balls 😂😂 but good video

[@Toon_Lucario]

I think the 07 scene could either be the smelting pits of Kaon because of the claws and lava. It could also be the Sea of Rust which is where the Cosmic Rust Cannon could have gotten it’s ammo refined.

[@peanut-kd2ir]

Maybe iacon

[@Toon_Lucario]

@@peanut-kd2ir Iacon was likely where it was in DOTM since the Ark was launched there

[@peanut-kd2ir]

It would have been cool if they show cybatronian Optimus bumblebee exc

[@Metatronio]

@PurpleOwlAnimation Most of the major cities on Cybertron were created in the 80s

[@ulty1472]

In bayverse kaon doesnt really exist instead Trypticon (sadly just a city here) is the decepticon capital so thats probs the location on cybertron shown in the 07 movie

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

I think that Michael Bay just forgots what happens in the last movies

[@yuuyjaaj6721]

Come on man. We got an explained theory on what exactly happened. Just don’t sh*t on mike

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@yuuyjaaj6721 I don't, I'm saying a theory that could have happened to

[@fyreborneblu6706]

Transformers isnt exactly star wars where some other department can expand on the inconcistency of its movie, by explaining it on a book or comic or something its supposed to be a blockbuster spectacle where the people who decides to view it would be in awe and then promply forget about it in the until next movie comes out

[@Man_Aslume]

Theory: Micheal bay keeps falling and hitting his head to make him forget

[@themanofshadows]

The Cybertron in TF1 was just how Bay probably imagined it would be, before he really started taking these movies seriously. But by the 3rd movie, he had more dedication in the series and gave us a more accurate/proper depiction of Cybertron (which is why it looks so different).

[@optisprimusproductions]

Everyone: this makes much more sense Me: *I fear no man, but that thing...* (Cybertronian Devastator) *It scares me*

[@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo]

I wish they added that in the movies

[@KihCombact]

Wreckin bals

[@duck9770]

Imagine the cybertron version of devastator flying and chasing the outobots around

[@tank3.144]

Are you talking about Dragonstorm?

[@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo]

@@tank3.144 No were talking about Devastator.....

[@MaddieGwen]

Woah this clears pretty much everything up, I always thought in TLK it was Cybertron combining with Earth never noticed it was technoorganic until now. Still never liked the honey comb design of Cybertron, it never looked like it could've been a liveable space like what if some bots just fell off

[@Theorymus]

Happy to help!

[@demolishingtank8853]

I thought the bots had magnets like in TFP in the 3rd episode,would explain why they never fell off

[@Indo-Fury6521]

@@Theorymus I actually know a guy who made a similar video of this.

[@nickynegron3515]

The honeycomb design was only ever really used in the Bay movies. Not every Cybertron scene opening the movies had a honeycomb Cybertron, but a usually planned planet with roads and everything. And every other media describes Cybertron as being just a planet made up of metal for the most part and if shown never have the hexagons. Not even in my favorite TF games, the War/Fall of Cybertron

[@BenedictF79B]

Maybe it's turn into honey comb because of the war?,i Mean cmon if the war could make cybertron surface part missing,then it's possible make the planet turn into that design,also it's possible since remember,cybertron at that time probably still has it's own gravity intact or they got a magnet under their feet

[@toastdoodle088]

My theory for why cybertron is smaller is that when cybertron was shot back through the space bridge the metal broke and floated to the middle of cybertron and when quintessa brought cybertron she left all of the larger external peices hanging on in deep space to rust and worked with what she had

[@jackietang3789]

Yes that’s what I thought as well until I remembered that Cybertron did implode it on itself after the control pillar was destroyed in Dark of the Moon, most likely Quintessa took the leftover fragments she could find and reshaped it to her vision in The Last Knight when when she put to back together

[@dreadhavoc]

Hey, this may not be a theory, but I have the interesting suggestion of how Optimus’ Sanity levels dropped, stayed the same, or raised throughout the first 3 movies of the Bayverse Edit: Basically what I’m asking is if you could make a video on how Optimus Primes sanity levels dropped theough the first 3 bayverse movies, like how I see it is: - Noble Prime in MV1 - Slightly Irritated, and growing disappointment and obvious signs of him losing hope - Completely irritated, willing to do whatever he can to end this once and for all

[@Im_DJ]

I think there's an actual system in transformers, like an inbuilt chip which possesses all the memories and everything, which is especially made for revival of transformer, like the fact that prime becomes very brutal after revival trans theories also made a video about change of nature of prime, May be during the revival that part of chip might be corrupted or something malicious like, which possesses compassion,sanity,etc like feelings .

[@Im_DJ]

The all spark or matrix doesn't give back the old soul/spark but create a new one based on the chip system.

[@mingfanzhang4600]

Same. For me, I always believe that the this version of Prime just has a Post traumatic stress disorder or PTSD and the reason being that he's a soldier and lost his friends during battles similar to real soldiers having PTSD (I use to work for Blooklyn VA hospital and even talk to the veterans there who have them)

[@Eradicator-jv9xr]

I mean fighting a war that lsyes for hundreds of years can be pretty taxing for even prime. He's prob just sick of the BS everyone puts him under

[@RVickbmx]

They did a beautiful job with Cybertron in DOTM

[@truly_blessed5815]

Agreed

[@basic4367]

Agreed

[@glennappiah5230]

Agteed

[@somenorwegiankid7587]

Agreed

[@JH09SUMIT]

Agreed

[@WhoTao-nm1uw]

I thought cybertron became smaller due to it getting ripped into pieces when the control pillar was destroyed.

[@shakedown3268]

Haven't started watching the video yet but I say why Cybertron is so small in The Last Knight was because those are chunks of the planet that were left over and got stitched back together after it was destroyed in Dark Of The Moon

[@jackietang3789]

That’s my headcanon as well for why Cybertron looked so small in TLK compared to how it looked in DOTM

[@shakedown3268]

@@jackietang3789 honestly, it's the only way to view it, unless the writers just decide to retcon the size for no reason

[@twister107]

Huh, I always thought that area in the 2007 film was the Sea of Rust. But, hey your theory makes more sense than most of mine. Keep up the good work

[@TheOnlyKlubbnoob]

By far the most underrated transformers channel

[@OracleOfTheOasis]

I don’t think that one area we saw in the first movie was Kaon, I think that may have simply been a siege in the Sea of Rust

[@chris146]

I didn't notice that the first time I watched The Last Knight in the cinema but, the second time I watched it on DVD I thought "wait, it's smaller." "Why does it have vegetation?" and I came up with some theories, but yours make a lot more sense.

[@qup944]

New series idea: What if i didnt survive, could be kinda fun i guess

[@LoganVang1356]

True; I can’t wait for Bumblebee’s

[@peanut-kd2ir]

And the part where you were talking about the hexagon and lava pits that might be iacon like in the games of you've played them

[@tfsharklordgamer7m598]

This is amazing and honestly it’s a very beautiful thing to learn

[@shumailamaqbool3926]

11:41 Hell yeah! Mechakong

[@Lord_Galvatron]

Dark of the Moon is an underrated masterpiece

[@websc973]

Me:*sees name* Me: I AIN'T MISSIN THAT!

[@Emmanuel4334]

I've always seeked an answer for this... although in DOTM Cybertron was way bigger when it was being transporter by the space Bridge, but in the recent movie it was smaller lol

[@julianmiguelbenito7762]

I guess why Cybertron shrinked in The Last Knight is because Cybertron was damaged in DOTM leaving scraps across space

[@broderickpeebles6938]

I agree with you because in Transformers Dark of the Moon when Bumblebee tackled the control pillar Cybertron collapsed in oneself and there was big explosion.

[@zoebrugg7594]

One thing some don't think about is that planets aren't one type of "Biome." In sci fi, if it's one biome fits all (entire planet is one biome), we have poor world building...looking at you SW... I like to think that the aria with the lava pit and "towers" was once a "Forest" regain. And City reigns have the hexagon's as bridges, like we have crazy overpasses.

[@pillowsleeper4521]

This video is gonna be awesome, can't wait to see some more things about transformers. Watching videos about transformers has always been awesome, thank you Trans theories 💛 💜 💖

[@arnoldabenesjr2321]

I think here's my theory about why Cyberatron looked so different because I think when Transformers Dark Of The Moon started we a battle happening like I think Autobots and Deceptions war started but over the years Cyberatron became a wasted land like we see in Transformers 1 I don't think Quintessa use broken parts of Cyberatron to make a new one but I think she made a new Cyberatron in her own image like she wanted life in it so she had to add plant life in it

[@P0G1._PLAYZ]

I just thought that what if the cybertron we see in 2007 could possibly the sea of rust like in the WFC game

[@tarn4633]

Quintessa is not a Creator, She is the Creator of creators. She is the version of Quintis Prime in Bayverse. She calls herself 'The Prime of Life'. She is the progenitor of the Quintessons.

[@deviljack]

Optimus's voice gave me shivers for some reason.

[@macula380]

I honestly always believed that this was just a planet that Quintesa reformed with Cybertrons remains, maybe even one of his moons

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

I like AOE but I hate all the reckons in it

[@spidey1455]

@ Trans Theories, I was wondering if you could please do a video explaining what happened to Sideswipe after the events of Dark of the Moon & before the events of Age of Excition and the Last Knight?

[@lous2187]

I think you're right about it being Kaon as in some TF video games and shows, Kaon is a hellish location with dark skies and melting pools.

[@themaxreboexperience5221]

What is your favorite studio series figure and who do you want in the studio series

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

I can easily explain why in dark of the moon its larger than the last knight... What we see in the last knight IS cybertron, the original size snd planet that was cyberformed because of a detail in the film. Vegetation. The crust or outer layed we see is cybertrons crust. In thw dark of the moon, its so massive because over time they expanded upwards making it appear larger. I wish this guy had a discord so i could explain it easier as makes a whole lotta sense. A good way to understand is actually Corecant from star wars, the original planet is still there but it's been developed with hundreds if not thousands of levels to the new surface, hence why we see cybertron be so large. Its like a bee hive, starts out small and develops. Cybertron isn't just a planet, it's a lifeform in of itself. They refer to it as a living being sometimes so it makes sense why it got smaller and why it NEEDED unicorns life energy. Here's how I figure. Cybertron is or was alive in some form, and as in the dark knight it was essentially damaged or dealt a death blow by the bridge... It slowly shed layers of its surface to retain it's life force that over time diminishes and more layers are shed UNTIL the original cybertron is left. From there it disables large sections of its crust and detaches them but keeps them connected and drags them along to be reattached when it gains life energy again. From there it can rebuild itself. Kinda simple really.

[@memesisthename3359]

you should do a video on the biology from the bayformers also great video man, happy to see your channel has grown since i was last here

[@marthvader14]

I need more of the Bayverse

[@wayneigoe6722]

I dunno, after seeing it in Transformers Prime, I always just assumed it was about the size of The Sun or Jupiter. Its significantly bigger than Earth, but not impossible to exist in a solar system. Whenever I saw it in Dark of The Moon, it mostly confirmed what I expected. But then it was trashed when the Spacebridge collapsed, I just assumed whatever was left eventually condensed under its own gravity creating a smaller planet.

[@imafatboy27]

Poor decepticons, they just wanted to rebuild there home.

[@randomplayer3467]

7:34 fun fact:the lightining bolt looking thing in optimus primes body is acutaly quintessas work its reparing primes insides and outsides and reformating him

[@donovan_salgado]

Huh I always thought that they made a new Cybertron from what was left over and nearby habitable world's with seeds and had to speed up the process for Unicron and push them all together which is why it's so smaller and has still had some vegetation

[@goblinslayer1115]

Man I’ve been binge watching your videos a lot and it got me back into rewatching transformers after 14 years also could you do a new series of what if certain decepticons in the bay movies were to turn into autobots

[@EtherealRoninERProductions]

3:35 I always thought this was the sea of rust

[@deadly_addicted3801]

Another great video by Trans Theories keep it up I always look forward for your videos

[@nightmarefuntime7768]

that's pretty interesting I love your vedios I'm a big fan I can't wait to see who or what your going to do next.

[@Theorymus]

Thx man

[@nightmarefuntime7768]

@@Theorymus your welcome hope you have a good day or night

[@omarornelas-shams1830]

One of my theories of cybertron having vegetated area and snow is that once cybertron was near of earth’s stratosphere, earth’s very own climate areas would have made cybertron create its own form of climate change and plant life being sprouted with the structure of mix oxygen and hydrogen cells alongside with cybertronian chemicals mixing the process of a form of small forestation

[@Curtisthemarinebiologist]

I knew two things about cybertron before this It’s big and it’s metal

[@fearless144]

Hi trans can you do the history between Lockdown, and where was he in the previous flims, for example when dark of the moon and revenge of the fallen take place, and if he had to make a apperence in those movies what would have he had looked like, and what cars would he would have chosen if not a Lamborghini Aventador, and his fighting skills etc.

[@krystalcalfee1182]

In the 2007 film Rachet says bumblebees voice box got damaged in battle who damaged it

[@rockymusprime]

You Videos are extreme Helpfull!

[@rixinrazor205]

I never thought I would hear about manscaped in your videos

[@TGP_Inc.]

0:00 "We're Autonomous Robotic Organisms from the Planet: Cybertron." -Optimus Prime

[@bookandtheories2711]

Can you also explain something that has confused me for years : in ROTF, in jetfire’s tale he says there were 7 primes and at the end of his tale we clearly see 6 primes forming a tomb to hide the matrix, but in DOTM sentinel is in a spaceship not in the tomb

[@hunterknighten914]

Sentinel is a discendant jus like optimus those are the original primes

[@CheeseLord1216]

The 7th Prime was the fallen

[@instigator_332]

The 7th is the Fallen (Formerly) Megatronus

[@xavierramirez1911]

optimus and sentinel are descendents. or else they would've been in the tomb as well. and only 6 of the original primes formed the tomb because fallen was the 7th

[@stopmotionskywalker535]

For your next I survive can you do shockwave and can you make it like a whole new movie like you did with Starscream

[@OneWithNoFace]

Maybe the planet was just decaying overtime

[@jjgee6505]

Ayyy it all makes sense now, also it really would have been really great to see Unicron on the big screen like just imagine what type of toys would have came with that, also I'm back after some long I still watch your videos but didn't have anything to say ,anyway keep up the hard work man🤙

[@Mx.imilian.f]

But in the 07 film and also with the spark in revenge of the fallen Transformium isn’t required to make cybertronians. Remember the scenes where the vending machine and the kitchen devices turned into cybertronians.

[@liam4295]

The 2007 Cybertron location reminded me of the Sea of Rust from the Cybertron games.

[@romerolemstra8747]

I always thought that the hexagons around Cybertron is some sort of "shell" and that inside the hexagons Cybertron is more like a regular planet like seen in other Transformers continuity and that there are massive, enormous pillars across the planet keeping the hexagon structures in place, with the pillars miles and miles apart and the first sets of hexagons miles high up in the air with more and more hexagons and pillars on top of each other, so maybe that's why there aren't any hexagons in the Cybertron scene of T1 with Megatron. Also if you look at the opening of DOTM you can see some sort of "clouds/atmosphere(ish)" on Cybertron (or atleast that's what it looks like to me) so perhabs there is an actual planet beneath the hexagons. But the easiest answer is that they (most likely) didn't know T1 would be so successfull to spawn multiple sequels that they have to eventually show more of Cybertron so they just made Cybertron look like a regular planet, but speculating is more fun.

[@arthurzheng9842]

...Did you ever think about the spark of Primus? He's never even MENTIONED in the Bayverse.

[@ramonlewis3994]

dark of the moon cybertron and cybertron are both different btw trans theory I love your transformers theory videos

[@xxrapidfirexx5271]

Thanks for keeping us updated I hope you keep uploading videos.😎😎😎👍👍👍

[@imreallynoob8311]

To think about it the whole transformer ARC Is about a group of cybertronians try to rebuild their homeworld after a civilwar but got stopped by a small band of opposition that want to protect small animals (for them we are probably like insect)

[@whztever]

have you ever thought of making videos on other timelines, such as the unicron trilogy or older or newer stuff like the wfc trilogy? would be interesting to see what u have to say ab stuff like that and for u to branch out

[@arbiterusprime9637]

another great video! whats taking so long on who sent lockdown?

[@Wing-Zero-si1eu]

From what I understand is that Cybertron began as a baron world, until the Allspark clashed into the planet’s surface, which cyberform the entire planet into Cybertron. The Dynasty of the Primes, that would emerge from the Cube. Would later built towering cities until the human race on Earth was born.

[@sebastianz9097]

Perhaps it was a bigger version of sentinels rust canon because he had probly already made a deal with megatron

[@marthvader14]

How did Optimus survive getting stabbed through his chest? How did Quintessa survive the collapse of Cybertron in DotM?

[@6lacklyte]

Ratchet in TFP when going back to Cybertron to launch the Omega Lock cyber matter. He said they needed to launch it in the center because Cybertron is a larger planet than Earth

[@trisharvanitis4655]

I have been thinking about jolt and bonecrusher often for the last couple of days so I was thinking maybe the next what if I survived could be jolt or bonecrusher.

[@xøCommando]

What about whenever Megatron returns to Cybertron where the Fallen and Starscream were after Megatron was revived in Revenge of the Fallen? Why wasn’t that included in the video?

[@goldenphoenix3626]

yo trans, can you do a video on if there were any good decepticons or at least any not evil?

[@heavy5commando.824]

Actually in the 2007 Cybertron appearance... That's Kaon. The decepticon city located someplace else. That's Megatrons location. Possibly someplace below Cybertrons Hexagon structures.

[@AmbroseP1864]

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[@handsome396giant3]

You should do a what if I died series

[@sagittariusneptune9330]

In Beast Machines it was a theme for cybertron be cyber-bionic, it could also be an homage to that. Or Quintessa had came across other planets and used their organic compounds to build a stable cybertron.

[@phantomhd7889]

In the intro where Optimus says 'We are economus race of the planet Cybertron' actually belongs to TFP

[@ultim8prime]

It was nice to see the cybertron scene in bumblebee.

[@Dypsy.Edits1]

quintessa probably put vegetation on cybertron so the decepticons can walk on cybertron since the hexagonal plates are small

[@swagguy6315]

I really like how these videos explain the Transformers Cinematic Universe good job👍

[@marthvader14]

Why didn't Sentinel kill Optimus with his rust cannon?

[@hezekiahjenner6520]

I wish there was a rise of unicron in 2 movies when she makes cybertron reborn and start to try to kill unicron but he is somewhat of an autobot if not the creator of the autobots so he turns back into the planet aiding his brother and the downfall of quintessa

[@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499]

i really think cybertron's down size theory was true but the vegetation was probaly because quintessa used her power to remake it to a more organic life planet onlike in the other movies where the planet seems more apocaliptic and mechanical

[@imamofamily9380]

This theories is tooooo GOOD to be true. 🔥🔥🔥

[@fletchfan5109]

I have a amazing idea for a Transformers survive is what if black/grinder survived

[@fletchfan5109]

What do you think

[@robbiekelsey6572]

Me and my friend had this question to and came up with theory’s supporting our answer on this and this video had some theory’s that I never had before

[@FireFlies002]

This channel is amazing

[@Pigpen_YT]

mfw it took me this long to realize the Infernocons were meant to be Quintessa's replacement for the Guardian Knights

[@himizilee5461]

I would be really happy if these vids are just as they are but in TFP AKA transformers prime, maybe you can start a series on that, I'd enjoy it

[@lonewolf8426]

If Optimus prime had that mark on his face under mind control. Megatron had one as well so was he being mind control

[@D.G.0.7]

Great video bro,learned alot of things👏

[@sillyman5796]

Wow thsi is cool, I have a idea for you and you next theory, maybe since we’re on the topic of creators maybe you could talk about what happened to the other creators or make some scenarios on them, idk just a thought hope you do it love ya vids

[@viviandanielsudhakar_meh]

I always thought that why Cybertron’s size was inconsistent was because the thing or being who revived it had different views on what cybertron should be and look like.

[@BertoBoi]

Techno-organic Cybertron? Beast Wars characters? Oh boy, it's Beast Machines all over again!

[@michelmoerdyk7257]

I feel like the reason cibertron was smaller is budget cost since cibertron will be in more of the movie and not just snippits like the dark moon or the first one

[@rejhongilzene244]

Oh yeah from the two deception protoforms of a police car and pickup truck are from dotm.

[@Hayden_91]

I had to come watch one of these after watching one of the most if not saddest videos i have ever seen in my entire life

[@AutobotUmbreon]

Could you do what if I survived jolt or sideswipe?

[@Raceandlego]

If the auto bots survived the events of DOTM what would happen?🤔

[@Nomadx83]

Maybe in the 2007 movie is the sea of rust in lower surface of the planet. Also maybe in TLK we only saw the interior parts of Cybertron due of the exteriors big hex beeing destroyed by the whorm hole and so in this could be vegetation, smaller hex and the sea of rust of 2007. What you think ?

[@Thep184]

The inconsistency in these movies is so crazy… first a cube, them being born and being a race of robots… and then suddenly they had creators, them built them… like… what ? Are they a race now ? Or are they built ? And now we combine it ? Jeez… i like the throry… but damn… these movies really make it hard to follow… and then we also have unicron…what about primus ? Like… these movies make no sense… not at all… only if you put a lot of theory stuff in there… but damn…

[@NetherCrafterSMC]

Kinda wish we could see Unicron in live action, will maybe in the future

[@NetherCrafterSMC]

Quintessa might have used another planet as a basis for the new Cybertron adding the hexagonal parts into a preexisting world 🤔