Cyclists ignore 'death trap' zebra crossings in London

Sadiq Khan's "death trap" bike lane zebra crossings see just one in ten cyclists stop.
The Mayor of London has overseen a proliferation of the Copenhagen-style scheme, where busy cycle lanes are wedged between the pavement and a bus stop island, with a zebra crossing bridging the two.
This is despite Mr Khan and Transport for London being repeatedly warned in their own reports that the majority of cyclists refuse to stop or slow down at these crossings.
#cycling #london #sadiqkhan #zebracrossing
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[@BikeJackass]

Put 3 speed bumps 2 feet apart 15 feet before the crossing, and a yield sign.

[@nsturgeon7145]

They wouldn't recognise it.

[@Cerceify]

@@nsturgeon7145 They would learn!

[@siyad970]

Speed bumps don't slow down cyclists, only affective with motorised vehicles

[@TheTimmyUK]

Perfect for manuals or tabletops!

[@curtisducati]

Barbwire fence and spikes lol

[@TheFurrry]

1:50 big lad just walks right accross the crossing. well done m8 thats how its done

[@SKBKER]

One day he'll get knocked down .

[@arthurmackrell8154]

About time that cyclists are subject to the same penalties as other road users.

[@russell5791]

But as it's not a zebra crossing (It would need belisha beacons), no law being broken.

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@@russell5791 LIAR.

[@mbords01]

Local police dept sometime write an article on traffic rules (including bicycle ) . Good reminder.

[@chris-non-voter]

Whoever came up with this idea is incompetent. Knowing how dangerous they are they are still rolling them out. TFL says it all really. Totally F'ing Ludicrous.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

I'm guessing Sadiq Karen would say opposing this is "far-right" and "covid-denying" like he does whenever people reasonably disagree with what he's doing.

[@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006]

Innit, but putting bikes in the bus lane was also a stupid idea Pedestrians are like lemmings Cyclists don't follow any rules Drivers are all psychotic Not really sure any system that allows them to coexist isn't stupid.

[@Equiluxe1]

The Dutch have been using this idea for years with trams and buses, the thing is the Dutch are more considerate for each other and don't have the ME ME ME ME attitude that seems so prevalent here in the UK which is something that has come in from the US and with immigration.

[@grahamw453]

@@Equiluxe1 Yes the Dutch seem to have answers for the issues mentioned in the video above. Not sure why TFL thought they knew better and added zebra crossings where not needed. There's a good video showing the Dutch bus stops called "Cycling around a Dutch bus stop" - putting a fence between the bus stop and the cycle lane stops people spilling out into the cycle lane as well.

[@curtisducati]

KAHN THE W@NKER Did this .....

[@Owl54321]

I think these crossings would be confusing for a cyclist. If I was directed onto this cycle way I would slow down because of pedestrians but I’m not sure I would identify the zebra crossing as such. Two strips obscured by traffic, no beacons.

[@nsturgeon7145]

Zebra crossings or not, cyclists should be aware of their surroundings and be mindful of other people.

[@ditch3827]

There are beacons

[@entx8491]

​@@nsturgeon7145 that has nothing to do with what he said.

[@jamesbond7648]

@@nsturgeon7145 cyclists suddenly becomes dumb when they cycle. They don’t know what’s traffic lights and zebra crossings looks like.

[@nsturgeon7145]

@@jamesbond7648 spot on there

[@c0mbat15]

First time for me in London for years this week and I walked a lot. These zebra crossing really confused me. I knew by the end of my stay that no cyclist was stopping at them.

[@ric1003]

I cycle to work twice a week in London, crossing a lot of these, and I stop for pedestrians. But I've noticed very few other cyclists stopping

[@TJTOPBOY]

@@ric1003 is it not a bit dangerous to stop on the smaller ones? I’d imagine it takes one lapse in concentration to cause pile up of cyclist

[@acceleratedsloth]

Why would they stop? There is no law requiring a vehicle to stop for pedestrians.

[@effke]

@@acceleratedsloth There literally is. It's a zebra crossing indicated by the stripes on the ground. Drivers and riders are supposed to give way to pedestrians waiting at the zebra crossing.

[@gwyn111]

Looks like a new source of revenue for a cash strapped council! 40 quid fine every time they fail to stop should do it..

[@Elldeeve]

It’s not a zebra crossing. It has no zig zag lines on approach and no flashing orange lights on black and white striped poles.

[@ponypruhest]

In Copenhagen Denmark the cyclists has priority whenever there is a floating bus stop, however if the bus stops right next to the cycle path such that pedestrians step directly in and out to or from the cycle path, then the pedestrians has priority IF there is a bus and the bus is stopped.

[@boossersgarage3239]

that's f'd up.

[@ponypruhest]

@@boossersgarage3239 Why? it's the same as when pedestrians cross a street. Caveat, we do NOT have zebra crossings between floating bus stops and the side walk - why would we?

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

That's the most sensible thing anyone here has said. It makes no sense to have pedestrian priority unless there is a bus there.

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@@ponypruhest Because your country is viciously anti pedestrian.

[@Dreadthfull]

Giving priority to cyclists is stupid. He's not the most vulnerable road user, pedestrians are. What a poor design Denmark has.

[@worsenary1449]

Don't expect Khan to do anything about it. They don't stop at red lights, let alone a zebra.

[@orchid6789]

It's the same on Leith Walk, Edinburgh. Utter carnage.

[@ColinRoss-tp6dd]

another city of entitlement. Its to be expected in places of such low morals

[@allergy5634]

@@ColinRoss-tp6ddThe irony of this coming from a driver

[@Denzel1916]

I never even realised they had zebra crossings on them, doesn't even seem an issue even in the video, pedestrians wait 3 or 4 seconds max and both seem to flow fairly well.. has anyone ever been hit by a bike? Non issue really

[@acceleratedsloth]

I have seen many people colliding with a bike near these stops. Every single one of them was NOT on a zebra crossing. I have seen around a hundred collisions between a pedestrian and a cyclist in London. Every single time, it was clearly the fault of the pedestrian, e.g. when the pedestrian was crossing on red (happened to me 2 times already) or the pedestrian just crossed the road randomly.

[@michaelsaunders6923]

What pratt dsigned this? logistics dont even come into this! FFS

[@MegaMrmorris]

Looks like the cycle lane is transporting more people than the road. This makes a good case for more and better provision for cyclists that doesn't put them in conflict with pedestrians.

[@jaylondon8354]

It's only busy between 7 till 9am and from 5 till 7pm. Rest of the time its uber, deliveroo and just eat cyclist and some cases mopeds

[@daiweston7846]

@Jay London doesn't that mean it's working? Drivers kick off saying cyclists shouldn't use the road as they cause congestion, cyclists are clearly using them in rush hour and they are also taking delivery drivers off the road. Seems like a win all around to me, it just needs better safety management.

[@freddieclark]

@@daiweston7846 No, it just needs cyclists to follow the highway code, something that many of them completely ignore.

[@20quid]

@@freddieclark Evidence?

[@mikewade777]

@@freddieclark beings faster and less likely to be stuck on a congested road isn't ignoring the HWC.

[@williamcoulter5462]

I took part in the trials for these at TRL Bracknell and they were told then that they would not work as cyclists would not stop it looks like we got over ruled and they did it anyway after we said it was dangerous so what was the point of spending thousands on trials just to ignore the findings TFL just ignored the results so any injuries are down to them.

[@acceleratedsloth]

There is nothing requiring a cyclist or any other vehicle to stop at a zebra crossing for a pedestrian waiting to cross

[@bjorndunderbeck]

@@acceleratedsloth traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing ( but) Drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and MUST give way to pedestrians on a zebra crossing

[@daiweston7846]

In Cardiff the cycle lanes have their own traffic lights, this is just ridiculous as they are not really visible with no signs!

[@andyisabeast7782]

There as visible as most zebra crossings

[@daiweston7846]

@Andy isabeast i disagree as a zebra crossing is the width of a road with 2 lanes, the cycle lane is wide enough for a bike so less chance for it to visibly register. A zebra crossing also has flashing lights either side of the road to highlight to road users they are approaching a zebra crossing. It's dangerous not to put the same safety features in place in such a built up area, it's poor safety management for both the public on foot and the bicycle rider.

[@pizou8454]

The cycle lanes in Central London do have traffic lights. I'm guessing this will be rolled out across the country.

[@mikewade777]

@@andyisabeast7782 without lightpoles these definitely aren't Zebra crossings.

[@QiuEnnan]

I never had any problems with them when cycling in London - I thought they were clear.

[@TheTraveller20081]

Road-size zebra stripes, but no road-style zig-zags and no signs. So why be surprised when riders don't recognise them as zebra crossings? Use smaller stripes so that more of them fit across the path, and paint signs on the surface on the approach, then look again at compliance.

[@ianholloway3778]

I don't think the half size zig-zags are in the current Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016. They were in the previous regs for crossings. I agree that better approach markings are needed as there aren't enough zebra stripes to register the 'must give way to pedestrians' response. In the old TSRGD they did change the meaning of the standard (half-size double give way markings) to include giving way to pedestrians, so if it still means that they could use the double dashed line and a painted give way triangle. Low level Belisha beacons would help but are expensive, but black and white bollards with a reflective orange disc would help alert cyclists. Blue signs with white text saying 'Give way to pedestrians' would be legal.

[@TheTraveller20081]

@Ian Holloway agreed, the signs&lines code needs to provide for new ways of using the roads, it's always behind the curve. It's not just a UK problem, the same exists I know in NZ. Innovation is often required but the machinery of permitting and legalising it is always too slow. Until then it's the toss-up between designing something effective - and cost-effective - vs something heavy-handed but conforming to the inadequate rules.

[@ianholloway3778]

I've checked the regs and it's legal to use the half-size double dashed give way lines and white give way triangle which on cycle tracks mean 'give to any person including pedestrians'. The zebra stripes can be as narrow as 400mm.

[@tahaali2732]

I've cycled through Mile End and Whitechapel many times, and I've stopped before these zebra crossings if I sensed that a pedestrian wanted to cross. I know some other cyclists stop at these too, but just wish all other cyclists did.

[@QiuEnnan]

I always stop!

[@gerarddavies1344]

Blindfold Mr. Khan & ask him to cross to the bus stop. See how long they last after he gets hit.

[@lorgus100]

Cyclists: We didn’t ask for this!! TFL: We know, but we need to endanger pedestrians, we can’t ask drivers to be more aware when driving around buses!

[@Dreadthfull]

Cyclists are the ones endangering peds :)

[@donkarnage6032]

Brilliant city planning as usual…

[@richardleach4179]

The issue is also markings. Rumble strips before the crossing should make enough noise for those visually impaired. These are safer than a cyclist going around a bus. Car Vs cyclist or cyclist Vs pedestrian.

[@pippippin1854]

When the bus pulls up there should be a barrier that come down in front of the cyclists, like a rail crossing until everyone is off the bus safely

[@TOMTOM-nh3nl]

Yes with bubble wrap for more SAFeTy

[@richardschofield2201]

Sounds cheap

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Or just a red light (LEDs are cheaper). Then the rest of the time let the cyclists have priority.

[@sand0decker]

Or, and hear me out on this, people can be just more mindful. A bicycle isn't going that fast amd should be able to stop. A pedestrian can either move at a normal pace or wait a second if unable. The cyclist should also assume the people unloading off the bus will walk directly out and behave accordingly. This is being hard is really confusing as a not-European

[@cameronallan5624]

Such killer crossings so much so that 5 people per day are seriously injured or killed on these crossings thanks to deadly cyclists. Oh wait, that’s cars. If people actually got hurt I would take this news article with some credibility, but they rarely do.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Wow, that was a terrible design.

[@Mgameing123]

There is not really anything better other than stopping the bike lane for a bus stop which is dangerous, unloading passengers onto a bike line which is dangerous or segregating the crossing for passengers (the island bus stop) which is the safer for all modes.

[@philipdurling1964]

Perhaps Bolisha Beacons also need to be installed on the Zebra crossings. Failing that maybe a Pelican crossing may be a better option.

[@drummerjo571]

Yeah, let's waste more taxpayer money on more infrastructure for them to ignore.

[@occamraiser]

or retracting tyre spikes that pop up when a pedestrian claims his right of way? - that or water cannon perhaps.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Or just have cycling priority? Unless there is a bus at the stop, it's not like it makes any difference to the pedestrians if they stand 1m further away from where the bus will be... In several mins time. They have several minutes to cross at their leisure and it doesn't matter. It makes much more sense (ie more efficient) to let the cyclists just carry on through till a bus actually arrives.

[@ponypruhest]

@@sergarlantyrell7847 Even if there is a stopped bus at the floating bus stop, cyclists should still have priority. It is only when there is a stopped bus at a place with no floating bus stop that the pedestrians should have priority.

[@nsturgeon7145]

​@@ponypruhestin an ideal world that is how they are supposed to work especially with changes to the highway code.

[@DaveNewman1959]

They're not cycle paths, They're psycho paths 😂

[@occamraiser]

Cyclists demand the same status as other road users....quite rightly..... BUT they must be held to the same standards as the rest of us. No mobile phones, obey traffic lights, no deciding to be a pedestrian to dodge traffic lights, no overtaking on the inside and no to the myriad other offences they feel entitled to commit. They should all be required to have an identifying number on their backs and every single one of them who went over that zebra crossing needs to be summoned to court and punished. Which means we need a licencing scheme too it appears otherwise how can we take their licence off the most prolific offenders.

[@nsturgeon7145]

Spot on 👍

[@bobreeduk]

They're not zebra crossings, zebra crossings have a big amber flashing light on either side of the crossing, they're just a raised bit of tarmac with a bit of paint on it

[@QiuEnnan]

Wrong, they are legally zebra crossings - the zigzag lines and Belisha beacons are not required on cycle tracks.

[@michaela.abbott222]

Their moral imperative will creating a feeding frenzy amongst themselves….

[@fabiennemitchell2371]

It also affects the normal unassuming passenger who regularly have to navigate dangerous cyclists.

[@frisianmouve]

As opposed to the completely harmless fast moving metal boxes that cause the vast majority of traffic deaths?

[@ga5712]

Firstly as they're zebra crossings the cyclists SHOULD be stopping! Secondly the new road user priority states the most vulnerable have priority so again they should be stopping. I bet these cyclists are the same ones that complain car drivers drive too close to them! I say stick a copper or two on some of these roads for a week or so to enforce it!

[@russell5791]

Point is they are not zebra crossings, as they don't have belisha beacons, so does the cyclist have priority in this situation ?

[@ianholloway3778]

They are legally zebra crossings in this form if on a cycle track and cyclists have to give way to anyone crossing and the Highway Code requires them to give way to those waiting to cross too. The 2016 regs (TSRGD) removed the requirements for zig-zags, give way lines and Belisha beacons

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@@russell5791 WRONG.

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@@ianholloway3778 Correct, cyclists are liars.

[@talkshitko9234]

Most vulnerable shouldn't have most priority .That's why is going wrong. Vehicles should have priority and pedestrians and bicycles should wait till it's safe to cross.

[@Nick_G7IZR]

Puts non Londoners at risk who wouldn't be expecting it!

[@llyottpresentsweirdtales]

As a cyclist and a pedestrian, I find this site utterly ridiculous! First time there, I was nearly hit by a cyclist because I was unaware that I was even in a cycle lane. On a bike, I would not want to have to stop at virtually every bus stop! A safer thing for cyclist, and pedestrians, would be to widen the road- Whitechapel pavement is a very broad one but I think they have market stalls on some days...

[@jacquelinetaylor8683]

It needs a series of speed bumps leading up to the crossings and stop for crossings to be marked on the cycle way. Otherwise the lycra louts won't stop. Cyclist are becoming the new thugs of the road.

[@chrissyj.6783]

Lycra louts? I didn't see a single rider in Lycra, in that video. If those pedestrians looked where they were walking, cyclists might have a bit more respect for them.

[@Perseus7567]

@@chrissyj.6783 If cyclists didn't run red lights and actually abided by traffic laws, car drivers might have more respect for them. Guess that ain't happening.

[@steveprice9737]

Bikes should be on the road but this is too dangerous for many riders due to crap drivers and the obsession with traffic moving at 30mph, where mostly the average is less than the average speed of the bikes , its just the bits where drivers can accelerate hard . Obviously junctions are particularly dangerous.

[@paulsmithcycling5993]

Pedestrians need to look left then right then left again like my mother used to say, no problem, cross zebra crossings when safe

[@grahamstevenson1740]

Can't say I'm surprised. Cyclists give me the impression they're very 'entitled' AND selfish.

[@FactsTrumpFeelings.]

Give these cyclists an inch, and they’ll take a mile, I just watched a video about sadistic khans right hand man, who got punched by another cyclist, cos he challenged him about not stopping at a zebra crossing! Standards in the uk are dropping hard

[@Raven-ey7mt]

Many (but not all) cyclist don't even obey road rules (ignoring No entry signs, no turning signs even traffic lights) especially younger cyclists and scooter riders. They also hop on and off pavements

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Many car drivers ignore the rules and speed, tailgate, run red lights, park on the pavement etc. Many pedestrians glued to their phones step out without looking. What's your point? Look, there are narcissists who act in their own self interest against the common good REGARDLESS OF MODE OF TRANSPORT.

[@MummaBear]

I hate it when cyclists cross a zebra crossing on their bikes 😡

[@unelectedbureaucrat2003]

I ignore the signs and laws to get out of the way of cars, I'm basically doing drivers a favour.

[@Perseus7567]

@@sergarlantyrell7847 His point being is that car drivers often get caught, via camera or police. Cyclists tend to get a free pass because "they're cycling".

[@ianholloway3778]

I didn't much like it the other day when the bus failed to stop at the zebra crossing I was at clearly waiting to cross at...

[@craigrothwell6144]

Poor people getting in the way of other poor people :)

[@TOMTOM-nh3nl]

YEs YES at a GREAT Speed of nots

[@louise6395]

Not very clear is it?

[@mohammedmuthir4671]

The department of transport laughs at disabled people. I should ask them for the recording when they laughed at me for reporting heavy bicycles left in the middle of pavement. He actually laughed and hanged the phone up. That was a sign for me that day to give up the fight. Unfortunately it’s the disabled and less able bodied people that will suffer. Such a sad situation. The decline of this society in all aspects of life truly shines.

[@mbords01]

take their name and report; if not ask them their name directly, I would!

[@kurtphilly]

This is just a horrible design flaw. This shouldn’t be blamed on cyclist specifically. Pedestrian traffic and bike traffic should not impede one another within a confined space, such as this example.

[@Dreadthfull]

We should 100% blame the cyclists. Why don't we blame the more dangerous road users that are endangering pedestrians? Cyclists are supposed to stop or slow down. If they don't, they are 100% wrong. Why does it seem so hard for people to realize cyclists can also be entitled asshats?

[@kurtphilly]

How many pedestrians have been killed when hit by a cyclist? The most dangerous road users are vehicles. Of course cyclists can be asshats. Sometimes they don’t stop or slow down, which the same can be said for vehicle traffic as well. This isn’t even debatable. This isn’t a binary issue, everyone can do better.

[@mbords01]

By listening to this young man, I am confident that cyclists all around the world must stop for pedestrians, also those with aid such as cane, walkers, or electric wheelchair. Cyclists need to watch for these cross signs and stop or walk the bike!

[@itsonlyme9938]

Needs signs putting up

[@whichypoohs]

Shocking

[@outlaw6421]

It's in HC ,everyone has to give way to pedestrians.

[@sshep86]

It doesn't. Vehicles must yield to a pedestrian crossing the street (on the crossing), but not pedestrians waiting at a crossing.

[@NUTTER8291]

They ONLY have to stop if it has flashing orange lights next to it .... NO LIGHTS .. NO STOP !!!

[@ditch3827]

@@NUTTER8291 There are flashing orange lights next to it - look again

[@acceleratedsloth]

No, nobody is required to yield to pedestrians waiting to cross

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@@acceleratedsloth Liar.

[@ColinRoss-tp6dd]

a barrier needs to be put in place that rises to stop bicycles crossing when pedestrians are ready to cross. just entitled ***** ignoring others as usual only seem to find the southern half of the UK to be like this. the majority of the north of England,Wales, Ireland and Scotland are polite enough to stop for pedestrians.

[@jamesgastovski3184]

The humanity!!!

[@jojoyoung2803]

These bike lanes are far more worse than when the cyclists were on the road: Total chaos !

[@safirahmed]

Pedestrian crossing with priority for pedestrians and fines for cyclists who don't prioritise pedestrians at bus stops.

[@acceleratedsloth]

Nothing like a pedestrian crossing with a pedestrian priority exists in the UK

[@ibassnote]

This is clearly never going to work. It’s not a popular point to make but it is also hazardous for cyclists. Probably the answer is actually a tunnel that goes underneath major crossings so there is no meeting of bikes and pedestrians. I understand the anger at cyclists but this is as much an engineering flaw as anything else.

[@bjorndunderbeck]

legal requirement to not run into pedestrians so cyclists stop breaking the law! simple.

[@MattyBrad]

They need to put a bridge across

[@Gina7178]

Why not design a traffic light system for cyclists and pedestrians in the interests of road safety and speed limits etc for cyclists

[@griff1878]

Cyclists still wouldn't care

[@harrybrown4952]

Traffic lights wouldn't work here. Unless cyclists are robots programmed to obey the signals

[@faircomment1841]

Too logical by British standards but a good idea.

[@nsturgeon7145]

Since when has a cyclist ever adhered to traffic lights 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Gina7178]

@@matthews5163 The Highway Code applies to motorists. cyclists and pedestrians.

[@ljhm6816]

Cyclist's get angry quickly and explosively at anyone who....... Now, we, the pedestrian, should stand up for our safety from cyclists who ignore red lights and zebra crossings, pavement spaces for pedestrians and many other law's. A annual bicycle tax would help pay for safety measures, to protect pedestrians and cyclists

[@New-ye2fl]

Cyclists get angry quickly? Rightfully so, anyone who cycles on the roads in the U.K. would understand why, we’ve easily some of the worst / most entitled drivers their is, it’s like we spent years giving out licences in cereal boxes

[@Mgameing123]

@@New-ye2fl 😂Yeah UK drivers really suck. It's hard not to find a bad driver!

[@tazuk01]

Cyclists just need to stop for pedestrians, simple really.

[@20quid]

Just ban cars from London and there will be more than enough space for everyone to get around safely. It'll make the city a much nicer place too, cars and drivers ruin things for us normal folk.

[@tpilot_error404]

Learn about the history of cities. Get the pedestrians back to the country!

[@Madmark50484]

Surely not them road law abiding cyclists who do no wrong im shocked

[@bennygreatpeople]

Not journalism

[@dereknicol5284]

A crutch in the front wheel will stop them.

[@mikewade777]

and result in injury and compensation from the crutch owner.

[@dereknicol5284]

@@mikewade777 Ive never heard of a car driver successfully suing a pedestrian that theyve hit on a zebra crossing, i doubt a cyclist would stand much chance either.

[@stuartgillies1327]

Why not drivers ignore everything 🙄

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Yes, I find that funny. Car drivers speed all the time and rarely does anyone bat an eyelid. But a cyclist trundles through a zebra crossing at 12mph and suddenly it's the worst thing ever! wor

[@mykota2417]

Highway code right of way behaviour needs implimenting

[@mykota2417]

@@jav.7611 the latest hwc states pedestrians take precedent n all vehicles should give way to pedestrians. Some are just rules and guidance some are law directives.

[@creator7341]

Wtf cycle lane near bus stop

[@ThankYouAndHello]

Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and MUST give way to pedestrians on a zebra crossing (see Rule H2).

[@kurtphilly]

This is a design flaw. Just like the width of a road that dictates the rate of speed it is comfortable to drive. Requiring bikes and pedestrians to interact in a tight space is just dangerous. The cyclists need a separate lane that minimizes any conflict with the bus route and those entering and exiting the bus.

[@Con-Brio]

Its a mess... Everything was better before.

[@declangaming24]

Put flashing orange lights that blind them

[@scottcaine4514]

Most of these comments suggest implementing other physical features to the crossing/lane such as barriers or lights or bumps. The zebra crossing is already there, it needn't require any more added to it, it should already be being obeyed by these ignorant cyclists.

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@Nature's Eye Meditations WRONG, READ TSRGD AND DON'T TELL LIES.

[@mathew85]

Like this in the us to, cyclists not obeying traffic laws , blowing stop signs and red lights.

[@charlo90952]

Cyclists don't like to stop because of slow acceleration on restart. Dutch cycle lanes are designed to minimize bike stopping. But this London problem is tricky. I guess there needs to be some kind of automatic signal triggered by the bus. But it's a good problem to have. As bike riding continues to increase to where it's the dominant use of the road it will be prioritized over other uses.

[@Dreadthfull]

It's not a good problem to have. What the f. How about cyclists just stop?? Who cares about the slow restart? These pedestrians are already slow and are slowed down EVEN more due to these entitled cyclists. This way of thinking reeks of cyclist entitlement.

[@charlo90952]

@@Dreadthfull Watch some videos by Not Just Bikes to see how the Dutch handle such problems.

[@Dreadthfull]

@@charlo90952 lmao, that privileged dumbass? No thanks.

[@roboko6618]

Can I just say look at the sheer volume of people moving through that cycle lane, compared to the number of people the road is moving next to them. I admit the cyclists behaviour is not great. But it's to be expected from a nation that does not yet have an established bike culture. We need some enforcement and I also think the crossing might be hard to spot for cyclists too - Especially if behind another cyclist.

[@josephmarshall9434]

So let's not put any responsibility on the cyclists to stick to the laws of the road???as most of them don't....🤔start fining them as motorists get fined!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheCinderellaman10]

And also how do cyclists get fined when they hit vehicles causing damage as not stopping at a give way, zebra crossing or lights. They hot vehicles knock off the side mirror and ride off then without looking turn right fall on top of a vehicle causing the windscreen to crack in more then 1 place, cause bonnet and wing damage, then get up and ride off when the driver has been left on the road with a damaged or even a write off. Yes I have seen 2 of these incidents happen whilst I've been walking from work. The cyclist will get away and motorist has to pay up himself, insurance will then raise his premiums if they go through insurance and then leave them without a vehicle and cause them much distress.

[@TheCinderellaman10]

There's plenty of crossings like these on cycle lanes. So are cyclists always riding up each others back side? That's safe also isn't it? That's done in the tour de France, that's racing just like drivers driving so close behind another vehicle

[@MiyamotoMusashi9]

What did Ted kazcinski say about this ... oh yea technology takes each freedom

[@thefattysplace]

Sorry but cyclists have to obey the rules of the road just like everyone else. All of these 'entitled' cyclists not allowing a waiting pedestrian to cross should be fined on the spot, with their bones being seized on repeat offence. The zebra crossing is pretty clear and they should be cycling with due care. TFL isn't the problem, the rude and obnoxious cyclists are. If they have time to ring a bell, they have time to stop. These sort of cyclists would also too through a red light of one were installed.

[@lyndafoster7724]

Cyclists want to be on roads they should have to have insurance also fines

[@jigglesti]

Cyclists, biggest hypocrites on the road.

[@ZQQHello1919rty]

Cyclists don’t understand road signs, they don’t have driving license.

[@TheTraveller20081]

90% of them do have driving licences, they just choose to do everyone a favour by not adding to congestion by driving.

[@Perseus7567]

@@TheTraveller20081 A favour? Most cyclists are a bane of everyone else's existance. Pedestirans, cars, hell even helicopters probably find them annoying. A vast majority think that because they're on a bike (saving the environment, easing congestion, whatever excuse they justify it with) they are automatically correct in everything, and never have to observe the same rules as they should have priority.

[@badgerservices9665]

Why are these cyclists not following the rules? Highest risk gets priority, which is a pedestrian.

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@Nature's Eye Meditations LIAR.

[@GTMarmot]

​@@natureseyemeditationsYou've been repeating utterly wrong and ignorant nonsense in your comments.

[@Glasguensis]

Cars don't drive on pavements.

[@dwcruickshank]

Apparently they do - www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/numberofaccidentstoukpedestriansonpavementsandfootways

[@charlesbaker7505]

What I’ll never understand is, why are cyclists so adamant to never stop for people, always trying to swerve around or just zoom past, I mean slowing down for 3 seconds is not gonna ruin your journey

[@tommanley2924]

Ever ride a bike?

[@JohnnyWednesday]

Because they say things like "It's tiring to keep on stopping" while ignoring the fact they're the ones that CHOSE to use a vehicle.

[@flatturdphd2066]

They have some issue about attending a few mins later

[@beaterbikechannel2538]

What I'll never understand is why pedestrians are too stupid to look where they're going.

[@se-kmg355]

We can ask the same about many motorists.

[@akuababez]

i think the problem is how fast the superhighways are, i regularly use cs2 (shown here) and while i do try to stop where i can, it would probably cause a cycle crash if someone stopped especially with the number of cyclists there are at rush hour. the cycle lanes are simultaneously slow and fast (due to all the traffic lights on route) but a suitable solution to this would probably installing mini traffic lights that pedestrians can push similar to a puffin, this would reduce a lot of the risk for blind and less able pedestrians but also make cyclists more inclined to stop. again, as someone who cycles and walks this route regularly, it has a lot of benefits but this is probably the major drawback

[@davewatson309]

Speed bumps, speed spikes

[@mykota2417]

Signage etc is useless

[@boring4606]

Just walk out and they'll soon stop of fall off. Won't take much to make them learn.

[@badhorse84]

Bad design, next.

[@mykota2417]

Cyclist haven't yet figured out new behaviour requirements just like car drivers with pedestrians. The stupid need enforcement as that's the only way they can learn. Stick an enforcement lollipop officer there for a few weeks n they'll get the message!

[@TheTimmyUK]

Probably designed by someone who would never use it! Dangerous for both pedestrians and cyclists.

[@greenone41]

Those bikers would have issues when I'm crossing there🤣

[@beaterbikechannel2538]

Even my 160mm of suspension travel and 2.5" tyres would have issues when your flab rolls stop me dead like quicksand.

[@greenone41]

@@beaterbikechannel2538 I am the bike lane now!

[@New-ye2fl]

@@greenone41 you’d be quickly booted the side pablo

[@JT-nr2ss]

This is what happens when people who walk, bike or take PT are given the crumbs of public space, while people in cars completely dominate the transport network both physically and financially. UK budget for car-oriented for the next 5 years: ~ 27 billion For walking and cycling for the forseeable future: ~ 0.2 billion, down from 0.4

[@chrissyj.6783]

Maybe it's because of those pedestrians who can't tell the difference between the footpath and the cycle lane, that makes some cyclists think 'sod em, I'm not stopping'. However the whole concept of these zebra crossings on a cycle lane is flawed. There's no signs or advance markings for them, as you'd find on a full-size crossing. I certainly wouldn't be sure that was actually a crossing point if I hadn't seen it before.

[@richardleach4179]

These are a great idea, the ignorance of the cyclist is the problem. They should all be stopping, pedestrians take priority. Simple.

[@splintercast8092]

Cyclists: another group for the Tories to stir up hate against in their culture wars.

[@bertiewooster3326]

Dreadful city.

[@stuartgillies1327]

Absolutely everything is unpoliced

[@beijingpete]

The cops should be issuing tickets to the cyclists. They are road users, and are supposed to comply with the highway code; it's purely selfish and dangerous behaviour by a large number of cyclists.

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@Nature's Eye Meditations LIAR.

[@mikewade777]

@@jav.7611 then they need beacons

[@acceleratedsloth]

There is no law requiring cyclists to stop

[@thomaspynchon2871]

@@acceleratedsloth Liar.

[@lonewolfnormanfinndian6129]

maybe the vaccine will thin them out and then less bikes and cars

[@mrhoneystinger3676]

Sadiq is showing is flexing his galaxy brain once again.

[@murphychris9811]

no hope for london

[@CallMeNumber8]

Sadiq Khant What is he like?

[@leninmercedes6567]

Poor design

[@josesilva669]

That type of cycle lanes are the most stupid things made! Cyclist dont stop, creates traffic on the road, the blind too, could potentially be very dangerous for them.. I cycle and mostly avoid cycle lanes, main roads and bus lanes... This is a Sadik Khan silly ideas on how to send taxpayers moneys...