How to Tell If Top Mounts Need Replacing

[@CycloneCyd]

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[@joneslive586]

You speak very clearly and comprehensively, with a solid vocabulary, refreshing!! (LOADS of youtubers stutter with "umms and errrrrs" half their videos!!)

[@iamyourfuture808]

umms and errrs ... he edited them all out.... why do you think others so many jump cuts

[@funkycarlover]

You saved me on one car with the CV quick-boot tutorial, and another with this top mount test. Cheers!

[@JSB2500]

I get knocking at the front whenever I use Sachs dampers from ECP at the front - three different vehicles (Skoda, Audi, Renault). In each case the knocking started within a year or so, and not huge mileage (less than 20K IIRC). With the Renault, the damper function was also significantly impaired - on sharp turns the outer front corner dipped horribly. I contacted Sachs and they assured me that they ECP do sell genuine Sachs parts. All the dampers were bought 2016-2020. All balljoints and bushes were fine on all three vehicles. I switched to using KYB dampers for all vehicles and I've had no further problems, even after high mileage and rough roads - and I love the ride!! I've also previously had no problems with OEM dampers from VW. I've had no trouble with Sachs clutches and DMFs. Anyway, I've posted this in case it helps anyone here with knocking that's not caused by the top mount.

[@CycloneCyd]

Thanks for sharing.

[@JPFORREST1]

Really great information- I replaced my insignias top mounts with non GM mounts and had knocking over bumps, replaced again with GM Mounts (about £10 each extra) and no more knocks! I couldn’t believe it, but there is very slight up and down movement on the non GM bearing which was causing the noise ! Only buy OEM top mounts folks !!

[@gregwilldoitllc]

Useful. Going to check this tomorrow as I’ve started having a knocking. This channel is a must follow for any Saab owner!

[@CycloneCyd]

Thank you. check this too: kzbin.info7DOCsKmtWoE

[@YesSirPhil]

What was the problem eventually? Can hear a soft knocking noise when staring left at lower speed lately...

[@shannongramani3309]

Thank you! I think you just confirmed bearing failure in my vw front top mounts. Exactly what you said where you hear the spring bind and release is what I've been hearing. Awesome video!

[@troy3456789]

Lots of good stuff here. I haven't seen another youtuber cover this particular nspection. Thank you Cyd.

[@CycloneCyd]

My pleasure!

[@kash2416]

Thank you, you include all the relevant information for a novice and make things simple to understand, subscribed thanks!

[@Mfundo_Treasure]

Mine is the bearing turn sound. Couldnt find the solution then your video popped up and it's been a lifesaver. Thank you.👍🏽

[@gaminikathriarachchi542]

Very good explanation. I was searching for months to find a good video on KZbin. This is the best I heard. Thank you 👍

[@gregorylichtenson757]

Excellent...i installed a Strut assembly on my Volvo C30 Turbo..Bought TRQs..once installed the Passenger side Center bolt on top of shock moves like 1 mm or so..Defective Top Bushing even from a Brand New TRQ Strut Assembly..but i guess thats what you get for buying after market ready assemble struts..

[@gigabyte2573]

Nice video, was listening very closely, I have recently had both front struts replaced including coil springs and top mounts, but since my garage replaced them (I supplied the parts) It has developed a knocking noise on a certain situation only, such as manoeuvring my car out of my drive onto the road, there is a hump between my drive and road, when I reverse out and the rear wheels have gone down the other side of the hump I get a 'Clunk' sound as I turn the steering to get onto the road, now this can happen going in reverse or forward over the same small hump, but no clunks at all when driving normally, only when manoeuvring over this hump or somewhere where the same situation occurs! Now the only thing I can assume is that when I assembled the parts to make-up the strut assembly, I decided not to torque down the centre retaining nut where the shock absorber rod goes through the top mount, so left a note with the struts to inform the mechanics that it will need to be torqued down, but I am beginning to think that maybe they've forgot to torque down the nuts and that's why it only makes a clunk when going over a hump where the rear wheels are down the hump and the front suspension is being unloaded as the rear of the car goes down causing movement at the top mount ! What do you think ? it could be something else, but it's quite a solid sounding clunk ! it's definitely from the front suspension and getting a little louder week by week ! The problem here is that I have a Volvo C70ii 2011, and the top nut is underneath a thick solid plastic cover preventing access to the centre nut to check for tightness, so was thinking of cutting a hole in the plastic cover to access the centre nut, rather than having to undo everything from underneath to get to the nut ! Any advice or ideas would be appreciated please.

[@hughdrummond6843]

What a great clear concise explanation. Great job.

[@irfanniazi6112]

This guy is a legend. Thanks for the comprehensive video very descriptive

[@CrittersBeinCute]

I was on the fence whether to have my top mounts replaced or wait another few months and this reassures me that I made the right decision to go ahead. Thanks!

[@CycloneCyd]

welcome.

[@nataliefeldman3416]

I really enjoyed this video , it made everything clear. I now understand what the mechanic is saying. You are really good at explaining car things . Thank you so much for the video

[@SurekhatullochTulloch]

A big HELLO from India .... With this help of this clip I was able to identify what was causing the noise in my car. So thanks a ton !! Do you have a similar clip that can help me figure out the same issue in the rear suspension ???

[@CycloneCyd]

Hi. I have friends from JLR who live in Delhi and Mumbai. I hope to visit one day. Very happy you found the video useful. No, not done the same for rear as there are so many different types of setup. Make sure the exhaust isn't knocking against the body (a broken rubber hanger?0 or a heat shield isn't loose.

[@GP-fc7jv]

Thanks for the help I replaced the struts and spring and only one bearing on my wife’s 2010 Toyota Prius I’ll fix it right now

[@bdyt]

When working on my Saab I always go to Cyd. Thanks sir.

[@lowstrife]

Oh my god I've been chasing down a suspension problem in my car for YEARS. What you describe about the ripples in the pavement from the mount not being connected is PRECISELY what I feel. It's like the shock absorber is solid and is unable to iron out the micro-ripples in even very very very smooth tarmac. It presents like a small wheel balance issue, except it's frequency is not related to speed and can be felt even at very low speeds (10 or 20mph). it just makes the car feel like a crummy ride, instead of the luxury car it should be. and it's because some knucklehead at the shop didn't replace the fucking shock mounts, when I thought they had, many many years ago when I first tried to solve this with new shock absorbers! Holy shit. Thank you so much for this, I came across your video while doing my research as I've had growing suspicion about the car not feeling right, and that something in the shock assembly is just not correct. I will be inspecting them and hopefully replacing them shortly. Cheers!

[@florentosmani8534]

Were the strut mounts the cause of the problem you just described, since i do have same symptoms on my SAAB 9-3 also.

[@lowstrife]

​@@florentosmani8534 I did further testing and I can confirm visually looking at the mounts they appear to be the case. I will know in about another week once I replace them.

[@florentosmani8534]

@@lowstrife thanks for the update buddy, prior to that i did replace shock absorbers and springs also some bushings on front suspension but the noise is still there, the only thing left to change are the strut mounts.

[@lowstrife]

@@florentosmani8534 If you're talking about noise, that's not what I have. Were the shock mounts also replaced when you did the shocks?

[@florentosmani8534]

@@lowstrife yep, i've got febi on both sides, it's more like clunking noise while going over bumps

[@avizavat]

Thanks for making this video. Now I know exactly what I need to fix on my car.

[@TheQuickBrownFoxTV]

Most helpful video out there. Thank you. Been hunting and replacing suspension parts for years. It's very clearly the struts.

[@mikaell4111]

Great video. I appreciate the small video clips that shows "if it does this = bad"

[@sertaoexpedicoes]

Me too. Very informative and straight to the point!

[@eliasstarborg4381]

hey! just wanna say dude keep up the great work! pls do more saab vids 😊 thx to u my 2003 93 with over 300k km on the clock is still alive! just got it thru the MOT after 2 months of trying but your vids and detailed guides i could fix most of my problems for cheap and myself!! again! thx a lot and keep up the great work!😁

[@dingbat5653]

After replacing my strut mounts and bearings due to front knocking on my 2006 9-3 and still having knocking, I was at a loss … then one afternoon it got so bad I had to investigate again. Well, all I can say is don’t purchase the cheapest item. I replaced both side with a much better mount and bearing combination and no more knocking. Ever since I purchased the car from an elderly couple it has always had a knock. Problem solved!

[@CycloneCyd]

I agree, I've seen them knocking out of the box. I've just fitted Meyle top mounts and bearings - made the car feel new again

[@Eirehunter22]

@@CycloneCyd MEYLE make excellent quality parts I am a fan👌🏻👍🏼

[@Thejoker-zg1gk]

Nice to see you back doing some videos on the Saab 9-3 2.0T looking forward to the next instalment 👌🏻😜

[@CycloneCyd]

More to come!

[@Thejoker-zg1gk]

@@CycloneCyd I’m really looking forward to it 👌🏻👍🏻

[@adamanthony7465]

Valuable discussion..all the more so because of the road network condition and increased mileages as the market delays new car purchase.

[@CycloneCyd]

The top mount I show with the movement was almost brand new. So I fitted new Meyle units. Now my suspension refresh feels like it should

[@bremarashford]

An excellent informative video. I’m just about to do mine on a Peugeot 205. Got here from your other top tip vid on partly undoing top nut 1st. Brilliant Thanks.

[@Ro32da72]

Superb video, so easy to follow - thanks!

[@_skrzypo]

Thank you for this video, everything explained co clearly and simply that I could understand everything even though English is not my first language.

[@robertmccoll1833]

Good vid mate had my car at the dealership today with this issue.. they couldn't find a fault with my xc40 after doing my own investigation it seems as if this is a common fault with the volvo xc40 top mount

[@alainburgess856]

Top explanation, I wish the garage told me so I would have replaced everything at once instead of milking me.

[@gabrielkishinevski1473]

Great video. No extra nonsense. Thanks

[@richardlarbey3018]

TV quality narrative, excellent advice and explanation 👍👍

[@seadrifter8975]

Had a pinging noise when locking steering wheel and wasnt sure what it was ? Shock bearing was seized thanks for the explanation 👍

[@jeffreydavidson2426]

Very good tutorial. Thank you!

[@MrStephen205]

Brilliant video.. very informative have answered my queries. Thx

[@hestonr.9617]

Thank you, for the detailed explanation

[@oliverv9002]

TQ for a good explanation. ❤❤

[@joshrawks21]

Great information. Been looking into replacing my suspension system since im at the 127k miles

[@asifpatel7442]

Thanks for sharing this clear information, very useful 👍

[@Fran-or3lt]

Excellent advice. Subbed to see more

[@wzajaczkowski8916]

Many thanks for great portion of knowledge!

[@uneekpcs]

Thanks for this video mate, and your others, I have been watching them since buying a convertible 9-3 which I found out yesterday leaks like a sieve.

[@zakesbantwinidaweti4315]

Thank you so much Sir for this video, my car is doing exactly what you've just explained 🙏🙏

[@CycloneCyd]

You are welcome

[@jim817]

Great video!! You know your stuff and even better, you know how to explain it very well. Thanks mate.

[@LoveDIYy]

Very good video mate 👍and very useful 🙂Thank you 🙃

[@NFADYORMF]

Best explanation ever

[@erictangF]

My 2018 Lexus NX300 with macpherson strut apparently have to replace the Bering, went to dealer 3 times without clunking noise problem solved

[@jonathonbrett-qn1ic]

Brilliant video thank you I have just started hearing a twang bong noice very intermittent at the moment on my mk5 golf R32 2006 and going to ask the vw garage there advice Thank you

[@sam4malaysia]

Hi cyclone cyd. The top mounting rubber can get faulty in a such way where the rubber became hardened ? this caused it cannot absorb vibration. So because of this we can hear quite noisy sound when driven on the road.

[@CycloneCyd]

When the rubber goes softand breaks down,it allows metal to metal contact inside the mount, thus transmitting the noise.

[@sam4malaysia]

@@CycloneCyd you mean overtime the rubber won't get hardened? Let say, in 11 years it never get replaced.

[@tincambo]

Excellent tutorial mate 👍🏼 exactly describes the issue I'm having.

[@sertaoexpedicoes]

Thanks so much for the clear information on strut mounts! I was looking exactly fro that content.

[@MumbleCookie]

One of the bolts sheared off my 93 and the new top mount didn't come with any bolts, do you happen to know what bolt / size / type

[@CycloneCyd]

Yep. M8x20 grade 8.8 min. Stock screws had a dog point, but you'll be able to manage without. And i think a flange head would be better than a seperate washer.

[@palash1010]

Hi! Quite an informative video! I have a spring binding issue (twing-twong sound) with my car, even the new mounts are making the same noise, not able to get to the root cause. My final bet is the top nut torque, the mechanic uses an impact gun to tighten the top nut, will that cause the bearing to pre load and seize?

[@Eirehunter22]

An impact gun should never be used on the top nut on a strut

[@wilsondavies4663]

Excellent info thanks👏

[@Oulfellid]

Great stuff. Thanks and we'll done

[@t5jerry]

Very informative and helpful,.

[@CycloneCyd]

Thank you

[@TheIronHeadRat]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@CycloneCyd]

Thank you too

[@mrjazzdog]

You, sir, are fantastic. I love the way you explain things. Clear, easy to understand but not dumbed down. Brilliant. Thank you.

[@spencerhulme1203]

Great advice "Thank You"! 💯

[@thecorbettchronicles]

This helped a great deal! Thank you so much!! Explained very well

[@mw6901]

Thanks for this video Cyd, I've got a clunking sound when turning the steering wheel left to right, albeit only noticeable when stationary. More notably, i get steering wheel wobble when slowing to a halt or travelling on a less-than-perfectly-smooth road. Is this a possible symptom of the issue you raise with the top mount?

[@mickmolloy6594]

MOT retests are free? In NI they charge £30 for a retest. Good video, very clearly explained

[@CycloneCyd]

Only within 10 working days, after that you have to have a full test again.

[@lawrencewaite2696]

Brilliant and useful mate cheers

[@lusciouslastrange5871]

Hello, I've recently been having an issue with my 2008 saab 9-3 2.0t with the radio not illuminating or playing any sound, that started two days before my battery was completely dead I had the battery recharged and checked the alternator both were good, I just saw your video to check the terminals under the battery. However I don't know how that would effect the radio please help me trouble shoot this issue please. Have a wonderful day and I'm happy I found your channel very informative and happy to learn more about my vehicle.

[@CycloneCyd]

Have you checked the fuse? Also check the amp in the boot for water damage. I've got a video for boot leaks

[@davidmbell]

Is this the sort of thing that can make more noise when warm? I’ve got a knock but tends to be only when the car is warm. I can recreate it pushing down hard on the front corner when I’ve been driving an hour. I can also replicate it a bit if I turn the steering at a standstill (again when warm). 2016 BMW X1 (F48).

[@kolegakolega]

Thanks a lot boss , you helped me much 👍😊😊😎😇

[@viktorporoshyn3148]

Great video. And great colors.

[@Pinkielover]

ba bump noise is such a general term could be anything in your suspension system u have to physically check everything.. use your arms, eyes, and a crowbar

[@johnmolefe6765]

Nice video. I subscribed.

[@joopiecoetzee9260]

Thanks for the good info but car has no bearing can I put chries there

[@michaelbaltay7916]

Hello Cud, Thanks. Is it true that ANY movement of the top nut in the retainer assembly warrants replacement? From my understanding on my Mercedes e350 AWD, there normally should be some small visible movement as the strut cycles. I have a horrible strut knocking sound accompanied by symptoms of worn out shock absorbers , Sachs. The shocks have only 30k miles on them so I really need to rule out any other possible sources. I replaced the top mount and the knocking persists as well as a modest amount of movement within the top mount. Appreciate any update insights you may have. Mike

[@mickmolloy6594]

Is heavy steering another symptom of worn top mounts? I also sometimes hear a groaning/squeaking noise also when turning at low speed/when parking

[@jph2910]

Very informative. We had both front suspension struts, springs and top mounts replaced 10 months ago on our 2007 SEAT Alhambra. We've done 5000 miles of normal road driving since then, car developed knocking noise a few weeks ago, took it back to the garage that did the work and they said one of the top mounts has broken. They are going to replace it for free, but any ideas why it could have broken so soon? When they did the suspension repairs some of the exact parts (springs and bushes) were no longer available so alternative parts were recommended by parts supplier and fitted.

[@Dnasty1]

Great tutorial I believe this is my issue. You covered all the important stuff. My issue occurs over the very small bumps in the road and I had originally thought it was bad tires due to the ribs on the freeway. Would a bad strut cause any of these similar issues? Also noticed that my 2 month old control arms failed... would a bad shock top cause rapid wear of control arms?

[@terryhansen5928]

Great tutorial! You explained the strut noise on my car exactly! Thank you.

[@ericrombouts7698]

Brilliant representation

[@hussainalajmi8604]

Good information, thanks

[@CycloneCyd]

Welcome

[@nvrgvupsoldano]

Now we just need a good service advisor write up!

[@MrAnonimowo]

Will the top mount on Audi a6 c6 knock if is worn out? Or would it be the strut most likely?

[@geoffreyrharris7926]

Very nice and explained thank you

[@debauk18]

Hello Cyd, any tips & tricks regarding the engine mounts, preferably for a B284

[@Davidoff8503]

Would it make rattling noise when going slowly (up to 30mph) over pitted, scored road? It sounds like rattling coming from the top. Bottom of the suspension have been checked, new d bushes fitted and links, wishbones got no play and that. Just that subtle rattle somewhere - sound more like some plastik not metal on metal. Really hard to describe.

[@Synysterjmz]

Can squeaking from the front suspension when going over speed bumps be caused by bad top mounts?

[@wildfruits477]

First time watcher and on the c4 grand Picasso u can’t see the top mount to shake the shell up and down

[@alexandercarlsson]

If i have visible movement in the topmount when bouncing the car. Is it 100% i need new top mounts? I have a knocking sound in my newly bought Saab 9-3X. Previous owner recently changed the top mounts. But maybe he used bad cheap parts and its allready broken again. I think he used Ridex....

[@Sean_03_636]

I just bought a car and the steering is terrible. Upon inspection I noticed passengers side front coilover has loads of play and knocking is this top mount or the strut itself? Moving the wheel 12 and 6 loads of movement and knocking, took wheel off and grab coilover pushing and pulling in a fast motion and loads of movement drivers side none, what could it be?

[@viktorase]

Great video. Thanks so much.

[@Tight--LiNeZ]

What if you happen to close your bonnet on a glass of Ribena?

[@Magneticvortex-kk4gb]

Mine squeaks when turning at low speeds

[@leonardjonas6283]

Got the same issue with my Audi

[@giveme10feet]

What brand did you use and how many miles have you driven?

[@Magneticvortex-kk4gb]

@@giveme10feet Its was still the original. At 170K. Changed to new ones but squeak still not gone. Probably the connection point between the anti roll bar and the drop link. That's the only part not changed now.

[@AnonYmous-wu1fh]

I have a 2018 A3 Saloon and this creaking sound is mainly when its cold and over humps and certain turns

[@judih.8754]

Excellent tutorial Cyd!

[@CycloneCyd]

Thank you kindly!

[@abijitroy3796]

I change my suspension Today but they only had one mount so they put the same old mount after changing the arms and front suspension 😢

[@chrishales3924]

My car is knocking over bumps and making the twang sound when turning the wheel at idle. Had the top mounts and bearing replaced which solved the issue for a few days but now it's returned. Any advice please?!

[@dexterdavies6799]

Mine was the same it was the wheel arm and barering

[@sjm.photos]

Very good video

[@NiktPowaznyy]

I have honda civic fn2 and something is knocking while driving on concrete roads or parkings. Been in 3 garages already and no one can say why and what is knocking. I will give it a chance and change bearing and mounting

[@TollyKipper]

Funny enough, that's why im here too. Got a sound that sounds almost like a torque wrench click coming from the top right... definitely suspension. Did you get it done, and if so, did it go?

[@NiktPowaznyy]

@@TollyKipper yes for now all sorted. Changed coil springs, shock absorbers,top strut bearings and top mounts. A lot better but still knocking. Bought mounting bushes for antiroll bar and it solved problem. Had a clicking noise few days after similar to yours like a torque wrench clicking. But it was brake pad in the right wheel, i think been hitting carrier or something. Good clean for brakes helped. For now is okay but sometimes when hit a pothole with left wheel someting bangs again but gave up as i have enought this car

[@andrebotha9364]

Is that a pint sitting under the hood in the middle of the windscreen? Lad

[@irdibasha391]

Is it possible my shocks need replacing at 60.000 km and no leaking? Or is it just my top mount, skoda

[@andriusscerbetka1863]

@@irdibasha391 google about it, i heard and saw some failing before 100k km. Some bean counters saved 20euro probably per car.

[@fannymaemoya1270]

Thanks very good