國外聲樂老師點評 張學友《醒著做夢》LIVE舞台Vocal Coach Reaction to Jacky Cheung

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@user-du3mw2mz7v
@user-du3mw2mz7v 3 ай бұрын
看到老師不停地反思、積極地了解自己曾經的限制,然後迫切而誠懇的表達給大家知道,我真的很感動,這是一個會不停進步的人,真的有資格被稱為老師並值得眾人的尊敬。
@lily37211
@lily37211 3 ай бұрын
真的!非常欣賞她開放性的討論,越看越喜歡這個老師🥰
@rurucat
@rurucat 3 ай бұрын
很有教養的老師
@user-fv9vc5hs4g
@user-fv9vc5hs4g 3 ай бұрын
别逗了,这是教养,当下中国人没有这种教养……
@user-fv9vc5hs4g
@user-fv9vc5hs4g 3 ай бұрын
@@rurucat对,教养,当下中国人无人具备的教养。
@SNK77741
@SNK77741 3 ай бұрын
@@user-fv9vc5hs4g 當然是你們這種中國人沒有的教養(並不是所有中國人) 只會因反對而反對 從來沒有自省 一聽到別人反對 就拼命的反駁 不會自己去思考是否真的是自己的問題
@bblin8669
@bblin8669 3 ай бұрын
張學友最神的地方,在於他每一場演唱會唱現場可以跟CD一樣,這樣的穩定輸出是很多歌手做不到的。不管唱歌什麼技巧如何如何,我個人認為,能夠打動人心、能夠引起共鳴,這樣的歌、這樣的歌手就是值得喜歡的!😊 當然人會老,喉嚨會退化,但可以聽聽張學友巔峰期的每一場演唱會,真的都是經典。在那個年代,真的沒有人可以超越,在KTV每個人都在唱吻別。❤
@focl-maddox
@focl-maddox 2 ай бұрын
誇張了,不是每一場演唱會都像CD。只是平均水準都很高…所以張學友真的超了不起的。
@AmyGong66
@AmyGong66 7 ай бұрын
Rozette是一个非常真诚的人。通过re这些华人歌手的歌曲,她终于意识到中西方在音乐上所存在的某些壁垒,感知到中西方文化在音乐表达上的迥异,非常喜欢和感动于她这种不断探索和接纳不同的善良和职业精神。这也是大家在看她的评论时其中最能打动人和精彩的部分,不仅从中学到了很多音乐知识和唱歌技巧,也从中感悟到真诚善良专业的美好。谢谢Rozette!
@haohao-kb8ze
@haohao-kb8ze 7 ай бұрын
真的很讚嘆Rozette老師 本身已經是很專業、唱功強大的歌手、歌唱老師 但隨著一部一部reaction 她還不斷的在進化 尤其是人在最難動搖的「觀念」和「習慣」上 整個豁然開朗 她的心胸視野可以算蛻變為大師級了 光看影片都能感同身受她的開心
@bigbang6364
@bigbang6364 7 ай бұрын
只是出場演唱一兩首歌很多歌手也能唱得好。張學友是連續開幾十場演唱會,仍然保持水準。,如果要選歌就應該選歌手最佳狀態的演唱來評價。
@user-ry5ov8ns3f
@user-ry5ov8ns3f 3 ай бұрын
主要還是東西方唱法的習慣問題 還有語言上發音的習慣問題
@emokia15
@emokia15 2 ай бұрын
Is 几百场
@garychang0323
@garychang0323 7 ай бұрын
我覺得老師認為的推拉感是因為中文字是方塊字,每個字都有獨立的音,不同音可能就變成不同的字,影響聽者對於歌詞的理解。這首歌剛開始張學友將每個字做斷點,作為華語為母語者聽起來會有種惆悵、喃喃自語的感覺,再加上歌詞的發音也會造成聽起來有推拉感。 但英文或是字母拼音為母語的聽者,會以為一個英文單字為什麼要拆成一個字母一個字母唱,再加上英文字是拼音文字,因此只要字母拼起來一樣,即使轉換音調,對於歌詞的理解也影響不大,就像老師示範的「以為愛」,聽起來會變成「依偎矮。」
@norii5466
@norii5466 4 ай бұрын
正確,以為愛,中文的意思正確應該是「以為」愛,愛是受詞,分開更能凸顯句子的意思。
@howard19820109
@howard19820109 3 ай бұрын
你的這回覆有專業
@superredevil12
@superredevil12 7 ай бұрын
The very best part of the show is that both coach Rozette and we the audience have a growth in our appreciation. The spark between two cultures, two origins, or two roots is what makes the show so attractive.
@joecheng4805
@joecheng4805 3 ай бұрын
這就是張學友從不去上一些歌唱選秀節目,讓一堆不知所云的人來評論他的歌曲。不過我還是尊重這位音樂老師他以自己的專業所作的評論
@ednlbbo
@ednlbbo 6 күн бұрын
我只覺得她給人一向都是主觀看法😂😂 有時候會改了一些唱發覺得很好。 但很多時候就像在黑白的山水畫自己加了隻芭比娃娃一樣..... 然後對於她喜歡的歌手唱啥都是很棒😂😂 偏見十分嚴重。 不過音樂也就是如此, 大家喜歡的不盡相同。 只是她常會說別人不覺得怪是因為是他粉絲。 然後自己喜歡的歌手明明也有許多令人不喜歡的地方, 那不就也因為是他粉絲。 之後就很少看她評論了😂😂 就像這部.... 好比對方開車是用甩尾技巧過彎, 她就非得要對方用貼地跑法過彎一樣。 一直想幫對方改掉故意甩尾的方式, 只因為她認為甩尾很奇怪。
@sammygogo1659
@sammygogo1659 7 ай бұрын
最喜歡老師誠實的反應了
@CHUANTZU-c3o
@CHUANTZU-c3o 7 ай бұрын
很喜歡老師們去發掘不同面向,看見自己,面對自己,非常欣賞。 張學友也是我一直以來喜歡的歌者,搶不到他演唱會門票一直是我的遺憾。 雖然這五年來聽他的歌少了不少(被周深佔據😂),但他過去許多歌曲依舊在我的歌單裡面,每次聽見都回憶那時候的自己。
@大豬頭-e8o
@大豬頭-e8o 4 ай бұрын
其實就西方重視音樂性高於歌詞文字,但亞洲歌手很多演譯歌詞的技巧。對於文明不同理解會有些差異,但演唱歌曲本身就是意境 共情為主,有達到傳達到聽眾的效果才是最重要的。不然其實很多合音老師都唱的比歌手好,但不一定能成為明星。因為特色定位形象也是藝人的靈魂之一,對於能突破多種樂風限制的歌手都是神級。
@manchiawang6161
@manchiawang6161 3 ай бұрын
說的沒錯,技巧是一回事,而意境真的與技巧完全無法混為一談
@Nana-Liu
@Nana-Liu 2 ай бұрын
其實,張學友的現場演唱,真的是用任何播放軟體也無法表達的震撼,現場太厲害!
@zxc053008
@zxc053008 2 ай бұрын
有幸聽過這首歌的現場 剛好是那次演唱會狀態最好的一場 真的超猛
@fongnever8476
@fongnever8476 7 ай бұрын
如果老師知"醒著做夢"是什麼意思就會更明白學友為何唱這歌會是這種狀態,非常投入這首歌了
@tea1tea-cleafa995
@tea1tea-cleafa995 5 ай бұрын
Yes! That's what I wanted to say too! 老師would have new realization if she knew what the lyrics is about, it's such a beautiful song. He's also one of the very few singers in hk who has attempted musical and this song is also very musical piece
@tea1tea-cleafa995
@tea1tea-cleafa995 5 ай бұрын
@clubzeromedia
@chabi627
@chabi627 3 ай бұрын
而且因為這是演唱會的片段,這首歌是有劇情安排,也能解釋為什麼前面張學友是以這麼虛弱疲累的狀態推拉主歌。
@Nana-Liu
@Nana-Liu 2 ай бұрын
精闢!!
@hugokoh1992
@hugokoh1992 7 ай бұрын
George Lam!George Lam!George Lam!76yo living legends still singing beautiful high notes effortlessly!!!!! Can’t wait for teacher to review it❤
@alexchainey.
@alexchainey. 7 ай бұрын
His wife, Sally Yeh. Powerful voice at 60!
@DeePoppa-w2m
@DeePoppa-w2m 4 ай бұрын
Alan Tam Forever 25😂
@blaw9227
@blaw9227 3 ай бұрын
數字人生、海市蜃樓、男兒當自強
@arieldai9087
@arieldai9087 7 ай бұрын
上次看17年巡演 他好像是把这首歌留在最后唱的,在前面连着唱了2小时还有跳舞安排之后。但是水准依然很高也没有破音,之后醒着做梦就变成我最喜欢的他的歌了
@jakesio6821
@jakesio6821 7 ай бұрын
學友除了是歌神之外,還是一個影帝,所以老師最後說他像演員是真的,今次這首歌學友整個演出是完全配合歌詞,不論發音和支體語言
@vinflg
@vinflg 7 ай бұрын
是的,这个我也想说,学友每每演绎一首歌。都会看到他把自己的情绪切换到对等的频道,这种就是真专业艺术家的级别。记得之前看过另外一个频道评论张学友的某一曲,在不认识他且无法理解歌词的情况下单凭音乐及演绎来理解歌曲内容,居然能说出个大概出来,那一下我突然理解到什么叫音乐无国界,而且也感叹张学友的造诣
@missingperson972
@missingperson972 7 ай бұрын
影帝??學友從未在香港電影金像獎獲得最佳男主角,佢嘅演技有排都追唔上,最叻都係印度國際電影節攞過。係啲歌商業味重而令佢走紅,其實好多人都唱得好過佢,佢鼻音太重。
@jakesio6821
@jakesio6821 7 ай бұрын
@@missingperson972 對對對~ 你就是權威~ 你說什麼都是對~ 叻叻
@WaynneLee
@WaynneLee 4 ай бұрын
东方又会演又会唱的数不胜数。 反而西方寥寥无几。也就那几个
@tongsuching4131
@tongsuching4131 3 ай бұрын
@@missingperson972張學友最早1989年就得過最佳男配角;早在劉德華都還沒得過提名任何獎的時候。 也被提名過好幾次金像獎金馬獎最佳男主角。也憑男人四十得過國際影展的影帝。絕對是影帝級的演員。
@SummerKuang
@SummerKuang 7 ай бұрын
文化,音樂,舞蹈,想法,理念都是多元性,所以世界才會如此繽紛
@user-yt6ku4pb2b
@user-yt6ku4pb2b 3 ай бұрын
真的蠻喜歡這個老師,他有什麼話講什麼話,我看過他那麼多影片他對Beyond感到興趣,對楊丞琳的批評,對五月天的批評,對那英的搖頭,講真的啦,或許我個人不喜歡五月天,那英還有楊丞琳吧,他講了五月天唱這樣怎麼可以活到現在,我也在想同樣的問題😂 以上是我個人的觀點
@許雅菱-x3r
@許雅菱-x3r 3 ай бұрын
如果老師知道學友哥為了他最愛的唱歌,是如何自律及不斷精進自己的歌唱方式,就能夠明白為何他的歌聲能夠隨著年齡的增長反而更加迷人了!(特別是在看完陶喆那段影片後更有感了)
@user-ed1gy6td8w
@user-ed1gy6td8w 3 ай бұрын
You are amazing, Rozette. You reflected and grown in the knowledge of different cultural singing techniques , it makes your video sharing very interesting to watch. ❤
@Truth2011sg
@Truth2011sg 7 ай бұрын
Different languages are being used in different manners. Singers have their own styles. Coach Rozette is gradually understanding this well. Hopefully, it will not be needed to stress too much on the differences in future. It is more difficult for a Western singer to sing a Chinese song than the other way.
@recuerdos2457
@recuerdos2457 2 ай бұрын
I would say the same! I bet she would not be able to pronounce the cantonese words right while keep her idealistic ‘legato’ way to sing…. I think it’s hard for her to fully understand how beautiful some Cantonese songs are and how hard it is to sing properly without changing some pronunciation!!
@user-lc7mi1zh2m
@user-lc7mi1zh2m 7 ай бұрын
张学友:我只是爱唱歌的神经病,应该叫我歌神精病。 不被“四大天王”还是“歌神”这种虚名蒙蔽双眼,不傲慢,不摆烂,不断提升自己, 年过半百了实力也没倒退多少,耳水不平衡跌倒起来音准不跑, 还不古板,懂得逐渐收敛自己比较老的唱腔跟上时代,不断在进步。 就凭这毅力,确实是神经病。 不知道说这句会不会被骂,他在我心里是“四大天王”中唯一配位的人。
@yiutungwong315
@yiutungwong315 7 ай бұрын
“原唱殺手” 尤其是佢唱 “小城大事”
@jackchan7129
@jackchan7129 4 ай бұрын
你的偏見就大了,郭富城付出的努力絕對不下張學友。一把年紀還在堅持健身,唱跳和拍港產片,而且還是一個心繫社會的人 劉德華也是,在演戲這條路他是走得最遠的,打磨最精細的,也是毫無架子的人。不但熱心公益,為人也是出了名的貼地謙虛
@user-lc7mi1zh2m
@user-lc7mi1zh2m 4 ай бұрын
@@jackchan7129 我以为只有现在那些小鲜肉的粉丝会夸他们的哥哥“努力”呢… 都有“王”的影响力,但唯一有王的实力的是张学友。
@ElsaLinn
@ElsaLinn 3 ай бұрын
認同老師的觀點,其實華語歌壇可以不必再有人用這種風格唱歌,太多了,就會過度油膩,而張學友這樣唱從很早開始,且也是他獨一無二的特色,我們只需要一個張學友。
@wangdong74
@wangdong74 3 ай бұрын
我覺得張在吻別之後就變得油膩了,他早期很好
@ww2200
@ww2200 3 ай бұрын
@@wangdong74 人的音樂口味改變了,張始終如一
@wangdong74
@wangdong74 3 ай бұрын
@@ww2200 不是。張早期醇厚自然,重劍無鋒的路子。吻別開始起注重細節花哨技巧,逐漸油滑。
@ww2200
@ww2200 3 ай бұрын
@@wangdong74 是嗎?那你有沒有他早期歌曲的推薦呢?我聽聽看 其實我也沒有太留意張學友,他出道的時候我還沒出生🤭 對我而言他每首歌都是吻別這樣子🤭
@wangdong74
@wangdong74 3 ай бұрын
@@ww2200 太陽星辰,愛慕,八十年代的都可以。可以試試。
@vinflg
@vinflg 7 ай бұрын
香港乐坛8.90年代人才辈出。神仙打架,希望能看到更多关于香港歌手的乐评❤❤❤❤
@Apostle99
@Apostle99 3 ай бұрын
現在還是有陳奕迅,也有後來的張敬軒,還有新一代的林家謙, 張天賦等等
@joefromhk8775
@joefromhk8775 5 ай бұрын
学友的这种push和丰富的唱法,是由他发展并带领了整个华语乐坛,影响了一代歌手,显然这唱法用在英语歌上显得很怪异,但在中文很多单字或双字词侧十分有力量,那是语言不同造成的巨大差异。感谢你们这些很有深度的讨论。
@rositachung5566
@rositachung5566 5 ай бұрын
小時候我也不太喜歡張這種push唱法,大了,知道這是他的style
@valerinist
@valerinist 3 ай бұрын
it's jackie cheung's charm glowing through his voice n vocal which emotionally connected to his performance. memory or not, everytime i heard his performance, perfect or not, technique or not doesnt matter to me, i can feel deeply in my personal ear catching to my personal liking that let me deeply immerse from the song atmosphere n emotions. yes, he's my childhood idol, how i wish to purchase concert ticket which gone in second oncce release at ticketing website 😭 just stop letting him dancing as he got ear drum imbalance which ll make him dizzy for second, fall down on stage, my heart 😢seeing that. i love to see him in good health, concert performance can be in various form, all fans ll support him no matter what 😊
@LuffyinYT
@LuffyinYT 7 ай бұрын
想跟老師們分享: 1. 「以為愛」那句,可能是因為「愛」字,想強調語氣,讓字義影響了唱法。 2. 撕裂音搭配「哪怕喊破喉嚨」,但有時候他會真的唱破音😂(有聽過) 3. 我覺得近年張學友在演唱會的唱法、呈現方式跟過去相去甚遠,而且他應該有意為之。或許可以同一首歌比對,會加速老師對他的認識。 學生拙見。
@kygcoc8432
@kygcoc8432 3 ай бұрын
老師真的不簡單,很少厲害導師級願意打開耳朵去欣賞不同文化語言的作品,大部分人有自己框架👍 粵語跟閩南語歌手應該給老師欣賞一下,這兩個中國古漢語可是比普通話歷史更悠久,背後文化更豐富。
@user-zt4ek2ev6g
@user-zt4ek2ev6g 7 ай бұрын
有機會可點評二姐“江蕙”
@adonislee2003ify
@adonislee2003ify 7 ай бұрын
可以讓她聽聽張學友唱英文老歌,真的也很讚~
@jakesio6821
@jakesio6821 7 ай бұрын
老師已進化了,本身已身懷絕世唱功,現在連東方各國能力都消化吸收了
@keroroer
@keroroer 7 ай бұрын
情感的敘述是歌曲的精随,只聽片段是聽不到感情的堆疊,這不是單炫技所能表達的。歌手的歌在於走入心靈深處的共鳴,是安慰,是同病相憐,是快樂,是激情,是慷慨激昂.......。所以有些人很會唱歌,卻被批判過油
@tsangjack
@tsangjack 7 ай бұрын
張學友在我心中永遠是歌神
@keithchan1811
@keithchan1811 3 ай бұрын
我非常高興從youtube的演算法中看到你的頻道,雖然我對樂理和歌唱技巧完全沒有相關知識,但我卻非常喜歡聽音樂,甚至乎認為我能接受失明,但不能失聰。我從前是一個不太喜歡聽歌唱音樂的人,是單純喜歡聽樂器演奏的那一類,特別是管弦樂,所以我主要都是聽soundtrack和部分classical。直至到某一天,我被一個外國朋友引導聽musical開始,才開始再將歌唱音樂放回我的歌單之中。Jacky Cheung是我最喜歡的華人歌手,小時候有聽過,也覺得很好聽,但未至於著迷,但我現在的確有和老師相同感覺,他在這十年間的聲量和技巧更吸引我,這一首我醒著做夢是我最喜歡的音樂之一,我明白Jacky Cheung的經典歌曲實在太多,但每個人偏好是不同的,就像聽phantom of the Opera, 我偏好是music for the night, wishing you were somehow here again..
@m70327
@m70327 5 ай бұрын
小編真的很厲害,循序漸進把歌神的渲染力推薦給老師 👍
@suallyu4925
@suallyu4925 2 ай бұрын
他很努力~死忠粉絲!!!
@reaganfu5925
@reaganfu5925 6 ай бұрын
其實很重要的事情是,東方歌曲的唱法,曲調轉換跟歌曲口氣是跟隨文字念法跟抑揚揚頓挫的,所以張學友的唱法狀態,或是那種推拉感會特別重。就像日文歌會有日文歌的那種推拉。英文歌曲來說,真的有那個推拉感,反而是不洽當且不和諧的。這通常就是文化文字與法的問題。
@booshipvideo5513
@booshipvideo5513 3 ай бұрын
我認為老師說的 ‘粵語發聲法’ 起著作用是正確的。中國大陸很少這樣唱華語。即使低沉音也是演的痕跡很明顯,不像長期說粵語的那麼自然。 聽聽李克勤的粵語 ‘護花使者’ 就明白了。就像平常說話一樣,只是加了音樂節奏。
@linwen0821
@linwen0821 3 ай бұрын
我醒著做夢還有另一版本,雖然第一次高音有瑕疵,但其他部分簡直神人地步,真的很精彩! 這首能唱現場就該被五體投地低敬佩了。
@kiannegi
@kiannegi 5 ай бұрын
其實關於那個虹的唱法,是由於老派歌手,也成為古早歌手的唱法,叫做大滑音,港臺早期歌手普遍都會有,也許源於他們都有日本文化,翻唱一堆日文歌曲的影響,演歌式的唱法!
@陳睿騰-y6y
@陳睿騰-y6y 3 ай бұрын
Rozette老師說的推拉,如果拿掉它,其實我很想聽看看,因為我很不適應張學友的唱法。
@amywu3038
@amywu3038 7 ай бұрын
不要忘記和張學友合唱過的 「鄭中基」。也是經典。
@henrynihon124
@henrynihon124 9 күн бұрын
太喜歡張學友越老越有味道😂🎉
@derrickwan
@derrickwan 3 ай бұрын
Jackie's acting is well recognized too, he is an award winning actor.
@Jimmy-666hsu
@Jimmy-666hsu 3 ай бұрын
張學友的聲音辨識度很高,高音之中帶有一點陽剛氣又略帶一點溫柔。難以形容的感覺
@Blurblursotong
@Blurblursotong 3 ай бұрын
It’s Jackie’s signature style, and technique, and audiences recognize his voice with these techniques. He doesn’t have to conform to other people’s standards. Rozette should get over it. You don’t have to like it, it’s a style - like dancing style, some people have lighter gait/jumps, some people are smoother in their moves. If everybody sings with the same style, there is no need to give any feedback at all.
@wu9632000
@wu9632000 3 ай бұрын
這首很好聽❤她把音樂拉掉,張學友還是唱的好棒!那個嘶吼聲~好好聽!
@chocolatemama1234
@chocolatemama1234 Ай бұрын
You are an amazing coach. Kudos to your continuous reflection and honesty
@ABCabs155
@ABCabs155 Ай бұрын
The push sound is Jacky Cheung 's character and old school style, now seldom hear that style of singing in young singer.
@Jeff-so6qm
@Jeff-so6qm 3 ай бұрын
He did fxxxxd up after he sang this for days 😂😂 coz I watched this live concert 4 times....ya 4 tickets not at the original price...
@lucasx_0530t
@lucasx_0530t 3 ай бұрын
如果有人好奇的話,這場是香港場,是最終場喔 能有這麼好的表現不愧是歌神! 真的強!!
@Nana-Liu
@Nana-Liu 2 ай бұрын
而且我覺得他的香港場,詮釋的更撕心裂肺,穿透力太強!
@JackyMay-kz6ky
@JackyMay-kz6ky 28 күн бұрын
本质上在中国的流行歌曲演唱方式都是从西方传过来的,所以没有什么所谓的鉴赏风格和文化不同之说,也没有什么所谓”中国人喜欢这种唱腔“。事实就是张学友在演绎这首歌的时候已经老了,声带松了气不足了,才会唱成现在这副样子。不用喷我,我是他的歌迷,我只是不希望他现在这种状态还硬撑着活跃在舞台上,去听听他年轻一点时候的歌声完全不是这样的!
@bicyclerider2147
@bicyclerider2147 7 ай бұрын
视频开头旁边人的感受和我一样,我也好久没听张学友唱歌了,也是更小时候才经常听
@thucnghiquach8389
@thucnghiquach8389 3 ай бұрын
我也是
@braynhing3150
@braynhing3150 7 ай бұрын
希望你能做一期李宗盛老师的山丘❤
@guayihchang
@guayihchang 7 ай бұрын
李宗盛的歌偏重要在於詞的意境,而不是唱功,在不了解歌詞的情況下去評並沒有太大的意義
@潘淑麗-n8k
@潘淑麗-n8k 5 ай бұрын
@justinbill3101
@justinbill3101 21 күн бұрын
Jacky sure has been doing something special on his singing. I do believe that it's not the culture diference between east and west, cuz in Chinese Cantonese pop we could hardly find anyone else mainly doing it. It's more like he created His type of style and the audiences somehow just love the way he express his song, and that's why he's so unique in this industry. I'd say he's not what I'd prefer but It feels weirdly not bad.
@Harry_SY
@Harry_SY 3 ай бұрын
这个老师说的没错,就像我是东北人,我喜欢粤菜和其他的菜系。但是最让我吃的舒服的还是东北菜,不是因为多好吃,只是因为我从小吃到大的😂😂
@yiutungwong315
@yiutungwong315 7 ай бұрын
“還是覺得你最好” “還是張學友最好”
@rodicksenhiser6407
@rodicksenhiser6407 6 ай бұрын
老師真的很讚,太喜歡了全系列影片,每次看都有收穫 好了講正經的 老師在意的好奇的那個低喉頭、類似壓嗓、深度很大的顫音、推拉的感覺 這些其實很大一部分和80年代的亞洲音樂氛圍有關係 當時台港澳都強調歌手的「個性」,甚至多過於用聲音的技巧 舉凡「張宇」、「張學友」、「李聖傑」、「劉德華」、「早期的陳奕迅」、「麥克傑克森」等等 (不是這些歌手沒有用聲技巧,而是鮮明的個性或唱腔更富有市場性) 據說當時的人們喜歡有磁性聲音的男歌手,一部分可能因為張學友帶動華語音樂的巔峰的緣故,那年代的一些製作人會要求歌手多一點磁性、多一點個性。 有趣的是,也因為個性鮮明的關係,現在的模仿秀,往往都是模仿那些年的歌手們。 張學友當年曾與麥可傑克森、瑪丹娜同台演出,全球專輯賣超過四千萬張,還有那個年代許多金氏世界紀錄,包含演唱會最多觀眾(75場200萬人次)、演唱會收入最高(上億美金)等等,老師們若有興趣可以看看維基百科上學友哥的紀錄。 完美的表演無庸置疑,即便它帶有瑕疵,確實更造就無法複製的經典。 1994年,獲《告示牌》(Billboard Music Awards)稱為亞洲最流行歌手[10],而他在1995年唱片銷量超越瑪丹娜、布魯斯·斯普林斯汀,僅次於麥可·傑克森[11]。因他的唱片高銷量而進入了環球唱片美國總公司在2000年選出的1990年代巨星名人堂。-wiki pedia
@816Wai
@816Wai 6 ай бұрын
Jacky Cheung is a HONG KONG Singer..................
@user-enoch0502
@user-enoch0502 3 ай бұрын
張學友是永遠的歌神
@環態藝術-阿嘎叔叔
@環態藝術-阿嘎叔叔 4 ай бұрын
Jacky Cheung's singing style can be called a personal style, just like Michael Jackson's concave voice.
@hugokoh1992
@hugokoh1992 7 ай бұрын
是時候來聽聽林子祥的show!!! The living legend❤
@blaw9227
@blaw9227 3 ай бұрын
數字人生、海市蜃樓、男兒當自強
@TheA5050222
@TheA5050222 7 ай бұрын
希望能有單獨一集張惠妹 阿妹的❤❤
@interstellar22222
@interstellar22222 6 ай бұрын
有一個很重要的元素,就是表達歌詞的意思,中文字的表達及語氣 跟英文是不同的,所以才會有這樣的演繹
@huskymrsp8151
@huskymrsp8151 7 ай бұрын
Just a thought, I think I read ancient poems like the “push-and-pull” way. Maybe that’s why I like Jacky.
@winterleung1411
@winterleung1411 7 ай бұрын
記得有看過某篇文章說過本來張學友本來臉部共鳴是沒那麼誇張的,那是源自於他在成名之後的某段時間開始,他有鼻竇炎的問題,導致他一直鼻塞流鼻水,嚴重影響他唱歌,結果就只好改這方式
@chewtony101
@chewtony101 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy watching the teacher’s reaction to different singers every time! It is interesting and often learn somethings! As a music fan who grew up with Jacky Cheung, I would like to share my feelings with the teacher: maybe in the Guangdong music scene, the audience pays great attention to the lyrics and stories of songs. Whether a song will be popular often depends on not only the melody and the singer’s timbre being nice, but also the lyrics need to be sung clearly and the content of the song needs to be resonant, so that it will be liked by more people. Therefore, many pop singers who debuted in Hong Kong in the 1980s and 1990s also have a corresponding style when singing each song. If you interpret the song emotionally, it will be difficult to sing every word of the lyrics coherently. Sometimes if you sing like that, the atmosphere expressed by the lyrics will be different. But since 2000, more and more Canton pop new singers will not sing the lyrics clearly, which is Not popular with music fans of my generation. 😅 This is for your reference only. Thank you very much for your attention to Chinese songs!
@Mikeoldyo
@Mikeoldyo Ай бұрын
For the debate in the beginning, my take is that Cantonese pop music inherits the tradition of Canto opera, which has a huge emphasis on 字正腔圓. You really want each word of the lyrics to pop. The audience is supposed to know every word just by listening to a song. That chunky way of singing is more emotive AND it also serves to help the audience to understand the lyrics thus the meaning of the song very easily. From my observation, that piece is not stressed in English songs.
@mimosa919
@mimosa919 7 ай бұрын
跪求張雨生❤
@Kcc3388
@Kcc3388 7 ай бұрын
張學友唱片銷量超過4千萬張,是整個亞洲歌手無人能敵的戰績,亦打破很多紀錄包括billboard的多項音樂紀錄,他的年代是MJ年代,但張學友當時是被billboard評為亞洲no.1,直到現在,張的世界巡迴演唱會門票都是秒殺,而他亦從沒退步過,我覺得他的成就實在不需要一個老師去評論他唱歌的方式,就等於需要評論Micheal Jackson的唱功嗎?難道張學友應該學學JJ怎唱歌嗎?我專重這位老師,有時覺得蠻有趣,但這個是張學友,嗎他的風格就如此,人家早已是大師級。
@ashleyleung6875
@ashleyleung6875 7 ай бұрын
我倒認為他們只是討論,並不是評論,而且每個人都會有自己的主觀意見,只是標題為了吸引人看,這樣寫而已啦😂
@yt-3257
@yt-3257 4 ай бұрын
好好笑,為什麼不能評論啊,整個對人不對事欸
@spshu3229
@spshu3229 4 ай бұрын
你说再多,我也从来不觉得好听😊
@smzytyzg
@smzytyzg 4 ай бұрын
@@spshu3229 我觉得好听!
@DMHM27
@DMHM27 4 ай бұрын
我也认为这个老师怪怪的,中国讲究师傅讲徒弟,这个老师如果成就高于张学友,怎么点评没问,只是这个老师啥也没有,而且有的那些都是陪大师合唱,这就让人不难觉得背后团队动机。
@-hi225
@-hi225 2 ай бұрын
We are cultural beings. We are what brought us up. We can not see the differences and learn from others until we have the realization of other worlds and also have the willingness to learn from different world.
@user-nc6vf6ks9n
@user-nc6vf6ks9n 3 ай бұрын
學友我的最愛❤永遠的神
@MrNicePotato
@MrNicePotato Ай бұрын
I think one of the reason not mentioned is that Chinese songs put way more emphasis onto its lyrics. It's almost more important as the melody. And in the Chinese language, it's important to clearly articulate the words in order to convey meaning or emotion. Therefore, articulating every syllable in a Chinese song is extremely natural since every syllable is essentially a word and can mean something. On the other hand, in popular English pop songs, the lyrics are typically simpler and more casual. English words also consists of multiple syllables. You don't need to pronounce them as clearly while singing, so there's never a need to stress every syllable. I feel like in Chinese songs, the melody is a plate on which you enjoy the food that is the lyrics, whereas in English songs you listen to the melody more and the words don't need to be the most beautiful. Of course I'm only talking about the mainstream ballad/pop songs. In every language there are many styles of songs and music and I am not trying to describe them all.
@ruthcheng820
@ruthcheng820 Ай бұрын
歌神在現場演唱,都會加入一點戲劇成分,像這部現場, 歌神在演藝一個醒著做夢的人,所以看起來好想很累, 張學友對音樂對於唱歌這件事,是非常熱愛,都是刻意為之的~ 推薦老師可以看更多他唱現場的影片,跟在串流平台上的差別,會更有趣。
@hachoooooooo
@hachoooooooo 3 ай бұрын
FYI: Jacky might be the root of push and pull skill in Asia, he’s influenced many many great singers to learn how to sing for sure.
@jejedidi520
@jejedidi520 3 ай бұрын
張學友唱英文歌也很棒,有唱過迪士尼的恐龍,應該給老師聽聽看!!
@avan169
@avan169 7 ай бұрын
最近紅的一首有個最新演唱會版本《偷心》【张学友】| 完整版 | 泉州站第一场偷心 。應該是底下聽眾錄的,我覺得超好聽遠好過原版,不知道這種唱法老師會怎想很好奇,有看到考慮一下吧。
@dandanchen8631
@dandanchen8631 3 ай бұрын
很喜欢老师的评论,我终于知道自己为什么从小就不喜欢90年代的粤语音乐,就是张学友这样一字一顿让我听得很难受,相反的,周杰伦把中文变得模糊的时候我就非常喜欢他的音乐
@philiplim2718
@philiplim2718 25 күн бұрын
Don't think there is a right or wrong since different language has its own vocal expression. Respect and enjoy
@brucechen4301
@brucechen4301 7 ай бұрын
Jacky Cheung Because the resonant cavity would cause headaches, he changed the location of the resonant cavity.
@user-jb2km7ir6m
@user-jb2km7ir6m 7 ай бұрын
有沒有機會來個江蕙
@jejedidi520
@jejedidi520 3 ай бұрын
老師一定不會欣賞台語歌的大顫音,像日本演歌那種!!
@kazlier3
@kazlier3 5 ай бұрын
He can do it because he can. Not anyone else.
@janiceleong3602
@janiceleong3602 7 ай бұрын
Rozette 老师终于明白Jacky凭什么在华人音乐界称为歌神😊。
@cryptonym1214
@cryptonym1214 7 ай бұрын
並沒有,她基本上最後還是用interesting和fun來形容,她還是基本上不接受這種唱法的,更不會有所謂“歌神”的感受。老師顧忌了中文聽眾的面子,說了一些柔和的話,基本上她是不讚同這種唱法的,她多次說過她讓學生避免這種唱法。
@janiceleong3602
@janiceleong3602 7 ай бұрын
​​​​​@@cryptonym1214 我同意她本人不喜欢这种唱法。她以前说过不明白为什么这么多人,连JJ也非常崇拜Jacky. 但这集,23:37 她终于说道 This video, 100%, I now truly "understand" people love for him. 所以我才说 Rozette终于"明白"Jacky在华人音乐界凭什么称歌神。
@clark6930
@clark6930 6 ай бұрын
很久沒進來這個頻道了.. 這位的我主觀之前就是在張學友的Reaction後發酵讓大家注意到的! 進來的第一則留言看到有人說心胸視野變開闊了於是看看.. 很遺憾的看到 7:36 秒就看不下去按暫停來寫留言了 基本上還是跟以前一樣! (真心改變接納了就不會一開始就辨論了7分半..) 只是怕得罪與流失觀眾而說的婉轉, 但還是明顯感覺心裡的不喜歡! 還是把歐美流行唱法擺在前頭再來聆聽其它的唱法 不同時代,背景有不同的唱法,每個人也有喜好與啟發學習的流派, 基本上跟觀眾喜不喜歡無關, 每個時代的人接觸學習的背景不同, 他們那一代的接觸與學習就大多是那些個樣子的! 不能先擺上現在再來看以前然後一直想推翻它,希望它改變! 每位歌手有自己最擅長的方式! 等到能像其它Reaction老師一樣只從該歌手的唱法去賞析那才是真的真心接納與客觀 「Tom jones」也是老式的推拉與大颤音的唱法, 如果今天Reaction的對象是「Tom jones」 然後For外國觀眾, 還敢不敢做出一樣的事與評論呢?!
@NF-pt1zu
@NF-pt1zu 7 ай бұрын
喜歡聽兩位討論👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@guayihchang
@guayihchang 7 ай бұрын
有機會的話看看能不能做一期黃大煒(讓每個人都心碎,妳把我灌醉),感覺老師應該會喜歡他的聲音
@beLIEveLiao
@beLIEveLiao 3 ай бұрын
I think this comes from the structure of the Chinese language itself, which is one character after another. That's why he adds a lot of vibrato to his songs to give each word more expression.
@beLIEveLiao
@beLIEveLiao 3 ай бұрын
When you listen to his songs in other languages, you won't hear the vibrato of each word. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bl7Cp3loh8x2aqMsi=-rMb9-txac7rp8Yw
@jonney6644
@jonney6644 3 ай бұрын
500 years of musical developments ... 5000 years of musical developments ... It's like listening to an Aliens or E.T. singing ... for our Western listener
@tim535277
@tim535277 3 ай бұрын
其實這就像食物一樣,我們是被張學友滋養長大的,我們熟悉了這種食物、這個味道,西方人的飲食習慣與我們有差異,他們不習慣這個味道,就像我們也不習慣西方飲食一樣,因為這是刻畫在骨子裡的記憶,沒有對錯,純粹是文化差異造成的喜好不同 印度人也覺得他們的風格是天籟啊😂
@kcchong6006
@kcchong6006 6 ай бұрын
"the engineer riding the fader" 😂😂😂
@taodidi
@taodidi 3 ай бұрын
Dear Rozette,Jacky did screw up 😂 in some performance at the point you are in love.However,this match with the lyrics meaning + Jacky acknowledged as "God of Singing" + the attchment makes me totally fine with it.Appreciate your thought of sharing and discussion on some chinese singer performance which I am in love with. Cheers
@jackykun6364
@jackykun6364 5 ай бұрын
我觉得听歌是一种很简单以及很享受的事,若是喜欢听那首歌曲就直接听下去;不喜欢听就跳过吧!根本不需要加于多层次的想法和解释,因为这样只会把听歌的乐趣给复杂化了。
@lovesure
@lovesure 3 ай бұрын
I think i can understand your point that i can relate when it comes to indian songs, for me i think the song is beautiful if they drop the additional skills and techniques...
@aken0414
@aken0414 5 ай бұрын
聲樂老師連評論張學友都跟我一樣的感受❤愛死妳了
@ToyProducerChannel
@ToyProducerChannel 4 ай бұрын
应该要给她听下(她来听我的演唱会)给她感受下什么才是真正的歌神用最简单的唱功来演出一首永久听不腻的作品
@charleshuang3268
@charleshuang3268 Ай бұрын
所有音樂相關理論都有它的道理, 但只有市場是最終的評審, 因為如果市場不接受, 一切都是徒然..........
@violalee3166
@violalee3166 7 ай бұрын
I hate how Jacky Cheung sings now. Those pushes are unneccesary, and he always adds "n" sound into words that don't have "n" sound. You are not alone Rozette, and i'd listened to Jacky Cheung since his debut, it is not a language matter. It was not like that back then
@maymay0206
@maymay0206 3 ай бұрын
长知识,一首歌可以这么特别,细腻的去解释。。好厉害
@feng4619
@feng4619 3 ай бұрын
演技歌藝雙絕的高手。
@ckchong6945
@ckchong6945 7 ай бұрын
偷心最近也在唱,伍佰的last dance 也好適合老師體驗一下😂
@muga1012
@muga1012 4 ай бұрын
倒覺得,因為她是以唱歌老師,她教導你去唱好一首歌,但如果她去瞭解歌詞或許會不一樣,就是你不會拿一首悲傷的歌用一種很輕鬆的方式去唱,當然改得好也是可以,但感覺差很多。當然張學友是比較早期唱歌方式,但能夠3、40年都讓人喜歡,這很難。現在再去聽木匠兄妹的歌,還是好聽,但編曲唱歌方式我們現在就會覺得很「老式」,但在那個時候他們非常紅。
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