I have never played a game i just like reading the books 😅
@danielmartinontiverosvizca732511 ай бұрын
love to see 3.5 content
@diegogonzalezpena87336 ай бұрын
3.5 still alive and the Best!
@threefivearchive6 ай бұрын
Always!
@homebrewisthebestbrew52706 ай бұрын
No particular order: Draconomicon, Savage Species, Epic Level Handbook.
@midnightgreen8319 Жыл бұрын
Lords of Madness and Elder Evils are fantastic books!
@gajukes11 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and subscribed 3.5 is just the edition for me. . . My list is different especially since the Miniature Handbook would be my top pick but I really enjoyed hearing your opinions
@threefivearchive11 ай бұрын
Miniatures Handbook is great. It has a particular style to the art that's hard to put into words... and the style of the feats, like Distracting Attack and Reckless Charge, was never really replicated. it had a lot of generic tactical options.
@ragerequiem6323 Жыл бұрын
Complete Warrior, Complete Arcane, and Savage Species are 3 of my personal top 3.5 books if not the top 3.5 books that I use (also not counting Monster Manuals) and I love them to death, they give so much flavor and variety.
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
It was really hard not to include Savage Species on my list. Almost came down to a coin flip. Complete Warrior and Arcane are very solid. I can't think of a Complete-series book I didn't like.
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
@threefivearchive I still don't quite get the monster classes. You get so few HD, and aren't exactly any better off by the end than anything else. (Heck, seems worse overall than Unearthed Arcana's buydown of up to 3 LA.
@TriagoZero Жыл бұрын
Draconomicon, my beloved. I jest. While I love the book I acknowledge how narrow it's focus is. And I too love Tactical feats.
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
Draconomicon was definitely in the running as well. Beautiful cover. Interesting prestige classes. I will try to review at least one of them in the near future. Libris Mortis, Draconomicon, Savage Species, and Dragon Magic were strong runners up for the list. I considered a top 20 but that just felt excluding at that point. Hopefully something akin to tactical feats will find their way into 5e at some point. I would love to rework some of them conceptually for the game. Sadly, the most I can really convert to 5e are monsters and some spells.
@jackiemoffitt67809 ай бұрын
Draconomicon has maybe my favorite artwork of any of them
@zakronthesheep Жыл бұрын
Honestly my favorite is Tome of Battle. As a DM of a powergamey group, I really strongly dislike the gap in both power and coolness between martials and casters, and Tome of Battle helps a lot with that.
@thegreatkabukino663910 ай бұрын
I've been saying the same thing for a while. Love ToB, love the Warblade ❤
@pcwarduke20556 ай бұрын
Loved it as a player, hated it as a DM.
@Kaiyanwang826 ай бұрын
yawn
@zakronthesheep6 ай бұрын
@@Kaiyanwang82 ok
@InternetMadnez2 ай бұрын
Yes it was one of the first (and successfull) implementation of "what if martial classes do cool stuff too" Also they tried to make it multiclassing friendly/ nicely integrated with non-martial-artist classes with the 1/2 lvl.
@zakronthesheep Жыл бұрын
Savage Species is really fun, but it can get insane fast, especially with things like Symbiotic allowing you to have effectively two characters at once and all 6 dump stats
@threefivearchive11 ай бұрын
I'm ashamed I forgot it. I would have included it. Just not sure what I could have removed. I should have done a Top 15....
@rolandfischer93110 ай бұрын
I gotta say, fiendish codex 2 took me for a whirlwind that idk if I've read any other splat front to back more than once. Great read
@JayVandemark-v1f4 ай бұрын
Yes yes i found elder Elvis as a good book for world endings
@ChristianAndersen-k7l Жыл бұрын
I was hooping for to hear about book of nine swords. Or drangons!
@captainpazuzu11 ай бұрын
Lords of Madness has the greatest metamagic feat of all time, Ocular spell. Fire spells from your eyes!!!! F-yeah!!!
@Sykdude6 ай бұрын
I know it's considered cringe and edgy these days, but I loved the Book of Exalted Good and Book of Vile Darkness when I was an edgy teenager. I used a lot of stuff from those splat books. For me my top three books were 1. BOED/BOVD 2. Sandstorm 3. Draconomicon
@Ichthyodactyl8 күн бұрын
Honestly, me too. I feel like Vile Darkness and Exalted Deeds were misunderstood though. I always felt they were designed to be used sparingly, to punctuate things, rather than base entire campaigns or characters around. I still have them on my shelf today and they are still some of my favorites, though I do understand why they never show up on these lists. Libris Mortis is the same for me as well.
@dungeoncrawlinghobo72482 ай бұрын
Awesome content, I can’t believe I’m late to the party and just found your channel. Looking forward to catching up. cheers
@alexbarrett383211 ай бұрын
Surprised to see your number one, but agree its a great book. I'm currently sending my spelljammer players to a certain dead moon...
@threefivearchive11 ай бұрын
That's excellent. I'm not a huge fan of Spelljammer but Atropus would fit in there perfectly as a high level location. Props for thinking of that.
@lukkaredwolf35349 ай бұрын
I always find myself referencing The Stronghold Builders Guidebook.
@threefivearchive9 ай бұрын
That is an excellent book, and alongside Savage Species is one of the ones I regret not putting on the list.
@lukkaredwolf35349 ай бұрын
@@threefivearchive I can definitely get behind Savage Species. There are things from all of the books that you referenced that I have used items from, except Lords of Madness, but I always end up going back to the stronghold builders, or the Arms and Equipment guide. I didn't stress the lack of inclusion, as I think Stronghold Builders Guidebook is "officially" 3rd ed, not 3.5. On a Separate/related line, have you got any thoughts on "Rulebook IV"?
@axel8406 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad list. Got me skimming through frostburn again lol. My favorite supliment is the stronghold builders guidebook. I used it all tye time to create npc forts and towers. I based an entire campaing around the players winning a broken down fort that guarded a pass to some forgotten lands. The fort came with tittles and land so the players had a lot of power to change and build whatever they want. I got the idea from might and magic 7 and the harmondale castle.
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
Stronghold Builder's Guidebook is fantastic. My only issue with it is that by the time you reach the level that you can make use of all of those fantastic rooms and traps and such, you are such high level that you don't really need a castle anymore. But you can certainly work around that.
@axel8406 Жыл бұрын
@threefivearchive that is true. I gave them a lot of gold from completing quests or pleasing allies so they could really get into it.
@Kaiyanwang826 ай бұрын
Very good list. It's amazing how much the A&EG is underrated. Obdurium + Oerthblood forever.
@MRDRK17 ай бұрын
I love using the Arms&Equip, Epic and Cityscape books as adaptable supplements to use with Pathfinder.
Complete Adventurer is hands down one of the most necessary for expanding from Core without feeling like a real stretch of the game.
@threefivearchive9 ай бұрын
I could agree with that. Arcane and Divine are pretty superfluous, and the classes in Complete Warrior aren't that great. The only one I feel could compete would be PHB II
@JayVandemark-v1f4 ай бұрын
The complet Rena had some very useful feats for mage
@user-gk9lg5sp4y7 ай бұрын
Great supplement. Still have my physical copy
@imreadydoctorАй бұрын
Magic of Incarnum, Complete Adventurer, Complete Warrior, Lords of Madness, Draconomicon, Frostburn, Complete Divine, Book of Nine Swords, Liber Mortis, and if you'd allow it the short adventure Something's Cooking.
@threefivearchiveАй бұрын
Something's Cooking is a fantastic adventure. I ran it for my brother and when my dad found out he was annoyed because he had also found it and had been planning to run it for us. Worst part was, it would have been a far better fit for his world compared to mine (his D&D world was very much like Lorwyn / Shadowmoor in Magic The Gathering, even though he was working on his world long before that set came out).
@jalair6667 ай бұрын
I loved 3.5, but just have to note, you said you weren't including 3.0 in the list, yet The Epic Level Handbook was 3rd, not 3.5....unless I'm mistaken. Great list though, wish I had more 3.5 books,.
@threefivearchive7 ай бұрын
No, that is a fair point. What I intended with that statement was the books like Sword and Fist and the like which were mostly reprinted into 3.5 supplements later. The Epic Level Handbook never got a real 3.5 updated version, so I lumped it in with the other 3.5 books.
@jalair6667 ай бұрын
@@threefivearchive 👍🏻gotcha. I always wanted them to put out an updated ELH that was slightly more tight, like 3.5 was to 3.0. I guess not many play at that level, but I liked it for the ultra powerful npcs that were the campaign big bads.
@threefivearchive7 ай бұрын
@@jalair666 Me too. I loved the monster stat blocks with huge numbers. Seems silly but to 13 year old me it was impressive. Actual epic level play a bit of a disappointment comparatively.
@noctusdoesthings Жыл бұрын
Elder Evils is so good bro
@crazyscotsman932710 ай бұрын
I have to say I loved basically every book you talked about.
@aaronbourque54946 ай бұрын
Tome of Battle, if it had been released with its original flavor, would have been one of the best supplements for 3.5. Complete Scoundrel is GREAT. 3.5's DMGII and PHBII were my favorite. One of them had guild rules, and ever since, I've been using them as my rules for backdrop battles. Instead of needing mass combat rules, I have segments of armies be counted as "guilds," and roll them against each other. But, aside from D20 Modern, my favorite D20 book are the Star Wars D20 Hero's Guide and Galactic Campaign Guide. Each of them are a mixture of DMG for Star Wars D20 and additional rules to basically expand how the game can be played, but my favorite part is the rules for sympathy. Maybe it's video-gamey, but tracking how far "in" you are with any given faction adds surprising depth to the universe, and adventures, and character interaction, both among NPCs AND PCs. I've never DMed a game without Sympathy since.
@albertcapley6894 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel, the only book I don't have from this list is Exemplars of Evil, but all are good choices. How would you rank the Kingdoms of Kalamar setting/supplements in general? I'm curious to track down the Hobgoblin sourcebook but I knew nothing about the setting until recently.
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
I actually do have Kingdoms of Kalamar, though I only read it once, and long ago. It seemed good, I recall there being kobold lore in there I quite liked. Though that might have been another book. I would do a top 10 of 3.5 third party supplements, but that's hard to do when I only own a small fraction of them. Perhaps I could just go through a few of my personal favorites in a video one time.
@albertcapley6894 Жыл бұрын
@@threefivearchive that's very true there are oodles and oodles of the 3rd party materiel out there, I've always liked the Sword and Sorcery books for 3 and 3.5 Ravenloft as well as their Relics and Rituals books like the Scared lands and Camelot.
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
@@albertcapley6894 Swords and Sorcery is great. I've never heard of Camelot though. That sounds intriguing.
@albertcapley6894 Жыл бұрын
@@threefivearchive I gave you the wrong name😅 it's actually "Relics and Rituals: Excalibur" they call it a "genre sourcebook"
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
@@albertcapley6894 Ah that'd explain why I wasn't finding it. Now I'll look at it a bit.
@Virmie Жыл бұрын
Based elder evils enjoyer
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
It is fun how much Mystara stuff got genericized by Wlder Evils and late-3.5 Dragon and Dugeon magazine.
@yuyu63 Жыл бұрын
Father Llimic has the best 1 shot for level 18 characters just ascending the mountain
@threefivearchive Жыл бұрын
Agreed! He is my favorite elder evil and has some of the best encounters. The lineup of skin dancers, greathorn minotaurs, and war trolls guarding the Hulks of Zoretha is a favorite of mine as well. Nothing too unique about the encounter, just that the mishmash of creatures are very diverse yet strangely fit together.
@sleepyproduction7166Ай бұрын
I just got core rule books for 3.5 and it’s what I’m going to teach my friends. Hopefully it’s fun
@threefivearchiveАй бұрын
Good luck! Be patient and don't be afraid to make up a lot of rules early on as it takes a while to learn stuff. 3e has the coolest content of any edition in my opinion, as much as I love the old AD&D stuff as well it's just hard to put it above the monster manuals and adventure books of 3.5.
@sleepyproduction7166Ай бұрын
@@threefivearchive yeah I appreciate that, also in the introduction of 3.5 it says to make things up as you start as well. To use the book as a reference but not to completely stop the game. Which will help.
@GustavoMuradFerreira Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@maxscherzer952111 ай бұрын
If you want some love from the KZbin algorithm, do a tier list video of every 3.5 book
@BunnyNiyori9 ай бұрын
nice video.
@DanielBrough-b7h2 ай бұрын
In terms of supplements that could be carried forward to newer version or other RPGs, I would have thought Book of Challenges and Cityscapes would be valuable regardless of ruleset.
@waffleswaffles3343 ай бұрын
Base class books seem slept on, but it's clear you didn't want the video to be about them
@threefivearchive3 ай бұрын
Yeah it was hard to pick a top ten and I had to go for books that had a particular charm to them. Perhaps I can find another way to rank them soon.