D&D's Rogue Inquisitive In Xanathar's Guide To Everything

[@WholeRPGs]

No one expects the Roguish Inquisition!

[@zeekeno823]

This is the best comment

[@maestromanifesto7697]

"Our chief weapon is sneak attacks, investigation and surprise; two chief weapons, sneak attacks, investigations, surprise, and lie detection! Er, among our chief weapons are: sneak attacks, investigations, surprise, lie detection, and near fanatical devotion to the Objectivity! Um, I'll come in again...”

[@bengraham9587]

Multiclass with Way of Shadow Monk and you basically have Batman. I want to do this.

[@Wulven-Hollow]

So basically Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty are the archetypes for the inquisitive and The Mastermind?

[@gexianhen]

how he cannot use that comparison, it make me uncomfortable when he say - is like sherlock, and the other is a guy who manipulate people...

[@pretsal4955]

I would've said Sherlock and Mycroft but man.

[@Jonatron101]

I thought Mycroft just paid them?

[@benjaminrobinson6040]

I see the inquisitive as more of a mix of Inspector Jevert and Sherlock Holmes.

[@sammcgurran8142]

It was painful for him not to say Moriarty😩

[@thejohnnycalamari]

sounds perfect for an Eberron setting

[@MrBrightside6969]

This book can't come out fast enough

[@FableCircus]

I'm currently working an Inquisitive Rogue, and it's a good class for a more Indiana Jones type. He gets to figure out the historical aspects of a dungeon, figuring out the traps, and when not in a dungeon, trying to figure out people's intentions. Definitely also a good "spy" type for those who don't want the moral implications of an assassin type.

[@Montagemock]

I have never wanted rule-book so much.

[@tommorgan9073]

Going to do a buddy cop story with a Half-elf Mark of Detection inquisitive rogue. Older brother to a Half-orc Mark of Finding Paladin Oath of the Ancients(was a search and rescue officer)

[@sword7166]

I think it's funny that he talked about the mastermind being a manipulator even though it barely gets any abilities to support that playstyle

[@naruhina1997]

Pre-Ordered my copy! This is coming out just in time for my new campaign!!! It's set in a Victorian Era D&D campaign with VERY LIMITED magic.

[@Argonaut1ka]

The Inquisitive is really focused on insight, and much less so on perception and investigation (as it is currently in UA), the only thing I would want them to add to it is a bit more on that front at level 3. Level 9 is the only perception based ability they get. Going for that detective route, I see the insight bit, but def more on investigation and perception would be nice.

[@DrossPedantic]

I created an Inquisitive Rogue a year-and-a-half ago. Everyone who's played with or heard about that character find it very interesting and want to see (more of) that character in action.

[@zebbruce1428]

I have a halfling detective inquisitive waiting in the wings!

[@robthomas462]

Just made a half-elf inquisitive with the city watch background variant investigator

[@JudgeNicodemus]

I think a changeling inquisitive would be quite fun.

[@Neutral_Tired]

I'm building an inquisitive rogue with high int and high wis, with expertise in insight, perception and investigation. The kind of character who will notice every tiny detail and be able to recognise exactly how and why it's relevant. Honestly I'm kinda considering putting both wis and int above Dex, or at the very least just the wisdom

[@Politicallyhomeless957]

These videos help supplement the material very nicely. In addition it helps advertise the product. G Damn I love me some D&D well done and keep the content coming! 👏👍

[@PartridgeQuill]

I cannot wait for this!

[@jessedotexe]

Tyrion and Varys sound like they would fit Mastermind and Inquisitive well.

[@anmimc]

I love my mastermind rouge. It would be cool to see a mastermind / Inquisitive team up

[@igcometa]

anmimc or battle each other

[@dokushirizo]

anmimc or how he said, have the two be in a party. I would like it where they are rivals, cat and mouse, not deadly, but say boyhood friends who went different paths. Street urchins turn cop and robber. And then have a greater threat come after the Mastermind for his influence over the underbelly of the city and then the inquisitive help him stop the greater threat to the city.

[@dokushirizo]

If that makes sense 😀

[@JudgeNicodemus]

@@dokushirizo Dude that's a whole story arc that needs to be written right there. It's amazing.

[@BlackFalcon269]

Talesin Jaffe would love this!

[@CufflinksAndChuckles]

MAN! I can't wait to add some film noir to my current campaign! Especially adding a villain that just destroys my party using only his/her mind!

[@BodyByBenSLC]

I played a rogue with 18 int (d&d 3.5) one of my favs of all time.

[@Telleryn]

Mastermind reminds me of Cal Lightman from Lie to Me

[@Rigel_6]

Imagine if one player plays an Inquisitive detective or a Mastermind spy/criminal and the DM makes their in-world nemesis the other one, it'd be like a Sherlock Holmes or James Bond story in the campaign

[@ninjaben1998]

Two friends of mine recently played a mastermind rogue as Watson and a mystic as Sherlock, but this could work quite well.

[@OzmodiusIluvatar]

I play my arcane trickster as an investigator, ritual caster adds spells and expertise in perception and investigation. (Rob Da Hood)

[@u7u9u8]

I was making a Deep Gnome detective, so this works out great!

[@therollingbones4080]

GDuff N Stuff Sherlock GNOMES Kill me

[@u7u9u8]

The High Rollers Nice.

[@jakegoodrich6520]

All i thought of was the Great Mouse Detective

[@suerainey9250]

My artificer is an investigator, +15 Investigation! So much fun!

[@mega0live]

Cant wait to make a Inquisitive Kenku!

[@jollyrogerquill]

I just love this subclass!

[@BlakeFaeMorton]

I'm actually a bit surprised this Rogue Archetype was so well rated. For all the talk about being able to do things with mundane tools that are the domain of the Wizard normally, they don't actually have a way to do so. They don't have Detect Magic or See Invisibility, and their closest equivalent doesn't come online until 13th level. At least it did in the playtest. Maybe it's been improved, but I really don't see how this rogue can out investigate an Arcane Trickster that's taking divination with their every any school spell.

[@AENock]

It is more of an inquisitor than an Investigation type, in my opinion. You get a lot of skills at level 3 to question and interrogate, and the level 13 ability allows you to to discern magic effects that are attempting to fool you. It is built not necessarily for a typical rogue role, but for those who like to be a party lead. It also does well with the City Watch background, and would do well to multiclass with a Battle Master Fighter for Know Your Enemy (which is my current plan)

[@mateuslaet4140]

I don't see why eye for detail doesn't give the same benefits for investigation that the ear for deceit for insight (the can't roll below 8 one)

[@scabbynack]

This sounds great!

[@MaskofFayt]

The subclass is really interesting but the name is very odd to me, like its not like a 'job' or 'role' like most other subclasses like assassin would be.

[@chaosbringer99]

Has it been changed at all since the Unearthed Arcana?

[@HelixWek]

IF IT'S DONE CAN YOU JUST MAIL IT OUT ALREADY? I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER.

[@ZenodudeMC]

Does anyone know all the class options added, and if there's new classes like the artificer or Mystic as well as races?

[@NecromancyForKids]

They didn't mention any new classes. I would think they would have immediately if there were going to be. And we only know a few subclasses there will be, which is in any description for the book you can find.

[@ZenodudeMC]

Necromancy For Kids god I hope not. I was convinced that it was mostly unearthed arcana material.

[@bradleythomas6052]

ZenodudeMC there will not be new classes in Xanathars, Tortles are considered to be part of Xanathars though so there's is at least one new race.

[@iv0rysh0es39]

Dip this with Drunken Master Monk and we get Captain Sherlock Sparrows

[@mfsnakesmfplane]

Is this kind of like beguiler then?

[@gigacooler]

What about the Arcane Archer?!

[@ittyandpocky]

What about it? Each class is getting 2 subclasses except Wizard which is getting 1.

[@OdinAlgeron]

Their description is a lot closer to batman than holmes...

[@andrewvanderpool5082]

Batman was based off of Holmes.

[@jakegoodrich6520]

Batman is thief rogue/ open hand monk who rolled for stats

[@MPPRODUCTIONSger]

Jake Goodrich no batman "rolled" for stats at home :D

[@TrickyTidy]

Combine it with Gloom Stalker and then you have Batman.

[@serc6768]

I really hope for some paladin subclasses!

[@IsaacMyers1]

Has the rogue become the class that is everything that wouldn’t fit any other class? Sure it has a flavor of its own, but some subclasses…

[@unicyclepeon]

I dont associate the mastermind with charisma at all. Only one half of the level 17 ability even involves charisma, and I wouldnt give myself a high charisma just on the off chance that someone was reading my mind when I am level 17. I built my mastermind with high int and wis and I took observant and I took expertise in investigation and perception. Later I took expertise in insight. So to me the mastermind was already the sherlock holmes int/wis rogue. But I will wait to see how the Inquisitive works out.

[@townsendscott9505]

God, More than Anything i can not wait for rogue to get Shadow Dancer!!! but the new Rogue paths here are pretty cool, not as cool, but cool.

[@gonzolikesgames]

So, Inquisitives are Sherlock and Masterminds are Moriarty. Neat!

[@TheProfessor529]

I would have called it the INVESTIGATIVE Rogue, but I a liking this.

[@EpikStorm101]

If the Inquisitive is Sherlock Holmes, then the Mastermind is Moriarty.

[@michaelmurray5073]

TAKE MY MONEY!

[@chastermief839]

i hope monster hunter is included in this as well.

[@davidragan9233]

Or Sherlock and Mycroft

[@notajetplane]

Why didn't you say Moriarty. I thought you were gonna say it but you didn't.

[@_ravanys]

They did.

[@Magarepasa]

James: I think he hesitated because Holmes is strong mentally, but weak socially. Moriarty is strong mentally, and also a very powerful social manipulator. The DnD system mechanics don't work well for presenting broad fictional characters in stories because DnD adventure gameplay is much more limited in scope than fiction/stories. If a rogue has 20 CHA and 20 INT and even 20 WIS and 20 CON...well, it's DnD, so...those stats better help you kill stuff, because that's what DnD is about. In fiction, those stats would let you rule the world, but DnD is still connected to war gaming, so class design is considerably more limited. Emphasizing Moriarty would highlight the game's system weakness for modeling the fiction that inspires us.

[@AdeptN7]

So Sherlock Holmes and Little Finger

[@xaryuo]

or a Gibbs. definatly a Gibbs

[@高橋二郎-t8l]

sound like clear, my mind is american, but I want to be continue japan life.

[@typoholic]

Inquisitive is an adjective. Why not just call it “Inquisitor,” or “Detective”? ::: sigh :::

[@ittyandpocky]

Because it's a descriptor of Rogue. Inquisitive Rogue.

[@CptGumble]

Discombobulate

[@andrewtempest2092]

Sherlock Holmes learned anything that would help him with deduction. In D&D he would be a wizard.

[@andrewtempest2092]

Sam Vimes is a better model for an inquisitive, with Vetinari his rival Mastermind.

[@Knightswords]

It's Batman the class.

[@T0beyeus]

The Mastermind has absolutely nothing to do with Charisma. Shows that what the Devs think of a class don't reflect what they can actually do in game per the rules the Devs created. It is the Swashbuckler with Panache which can charm a target. Masterminds cannot manipulate enemies but they can perceive weaknesses in their enemies with their 9th level feature which is what Crawford explains the Inquisitive does. It all makes very little sense. I am in the minority in that I am actually now concerned about the upcoming book. SCAG was not a very good book and many of the subclasses were IMO subpar (Mastermind, Banneret & Undying Warlock), now we have this video that makes Crawford look like he is confusing the Rogue subclasses and I am worried we will have more subpar subclasses.

[@Part1Gaming]

T0beyeus I'm sorry but you're wrong. The Mastermind is an expert at Deception and persuasion. He has abilities that compliment this. The inquisitive can make Insight checks on an enemy in order to get sneak attack damage on it every single round that is what he was talking about. You seem to not have read the Unearthed Arcana article where the inquisitive was playtested

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Damocles Reviews I was going to say, I agree that SCAG had sub-par classes, buy the Mastermind is definitely a Charisma influenced Rogue. I will say that Crawford says the goal was to create classes that are new, to carve out an area untouched... Then compares it to things already made. Not knocking it, just scratched my head over that one.

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Still excited for this book to release either way.

[@Part1Gaming]

Meditating Munky i see your point and am also excited. I just felt the information was misunderstood

[@ittyandpocky]

The mastermind can duplicate people's speech patterns, learns extra languages, and gets disguise kit and forgery kit. They can learn peoples' weaknesses by talking to them, and can keep their thoughts hidden during interrogation. They're basically spies.

[@isultansultangaliev5852]

Batman, nice ;)

[@bluehen32]

It's not Sherlock Holmes.... It's Batman lol

[@DoolallyProductions]

I created a Rogue Inquisitive for the Descent into Avernus campaign. He worked for the Church of Torm as an Inquisitor purging the land of demonic cults, focusing on perception, insight, history and religion. It was really fun until the DM decided 3/4 the way through the campaign he wanted to play something else and ended the game. Dick.

[@eijibayushi7029]

Meh. What about mystics?

[@Politicallyhomeless957]

These videos help supplement the material very nicely. In addition it helps advertise the product. G Damn I love me some D&D well done and keep the content coming! 👏👍