You must sow a lot of distrust with your players if you thought that set-up (as described here) was suspicious. I wouldn't have batted an eye at it...unless it was toward the end of a campaign with a specific DM I've played with.
@darth_dan88864 жыл бұрын
Hmm... So Nigel the Bard died? And you're still holding on to his Succubus lady?
@zinkheroofyoutube80044 жыл бұрын
Did Nigel try to seduce the real lady Thamur
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Of course Nigel tried to seduce the real Lady Tharmar. 😁
@kendrickrochelanzot20534 жыл бұрын
Holy hell, the barbarian in the skit started a family. Now I wanna see a barbarian tieflings
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a new character for the skits. :-)
@the113824 жыл бұрын
They didn't say bards are wise.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Especially not Nigel...
@cthulhufhtagn24834 жыл бұрын
+5 in Charisma, -2 in Wisdom.
@Sophia-vk5bq4 жыл бұрын
Just wisecracks.
@subduedpotato72164 жыл бұрын
@@Sophia-vk5bq is 'wisecracks' another, fancier, way of saying 'smartass'? ;)
@Vermbraunt4 жыл бұрын
That sounds completely stupid. I love it Edit: I actually can't blame them for accepting the quest, since the guards where bloodied and she was well dressed the story was believable. It all was cleverly executed from your behalf after the initial encounter. It sounds more like the succubus seduced the bard
@evankurasu31904 жыл бұрын
this isn't a "10% Genius" idea... it's a 1% EPIC idea.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Just wait... It gets better, too. 😂
@dracawyn4 жыл бұрын
I theorize that this is where about 75% of tieflings come from.
@Valsorayu4 жыл бұрын
Are we going to talk about how someone has sex'd a dragon, on multiple different occasions? Succubi are at least humanoid.
@greatstoryteller94594 жыл бұрын
All half races come from bards. Prove me wrong.
@beastwarsFTW4 жыл бұрын
@@greatstoryteller9459 Orcs like barbarians more, someone with strong gens.
@Bossaru90004 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of one of my games where I had an incubus who worked in a brothel. The PC's didn't have to pay for their services, but they had to sign a waiver in case they died lol. I had it where you needed to roll a con save, and depending on how high you rolled, you would have a certain number of exhaustion points. The deciding rolls for that was by increments of 5, so essentially if you rolled a 4 or lower you instantly died from 6 points of exhaustion, and the higher you rolled, the better off you were. Well... the monk decided to risk it and he rolled a 5, so he had 5 levels of exhaustion and had to sleep in the room for 2 days before he could even limp out the room lol. I even warned the player "this has a chance to instantly kill you, are you sure?" But he insisted he wanted to risk it.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
LMAO that's amazing. 😂
@MarkEdwardRom3 жыл бұрын
Brave Monk and well done.
@robinthrush96724 жыл бұрын
"...having a player go in deep with a succubus...." phrasing!
@demi-femme48214 жыл бұрын
He said what he meant.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Uh, yeah... English is not my first language... 😬
@jevry43074 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair you say it is not, and maybe it isn't, but i dont believe you
@tristianlefebvre18784 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair the fact he had children with the succubus he did 'go deep'...
@faerylnhiikira10534 жыл бұрын
10% of all GM ideas are genius? That seems generous. Even so, the classic meme of "Bard's Player: 'I roll to seduce!'" continues on.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
I think Seduction is a class ability for bards...
@Plague_Crafter4 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair Not if you're a hill dwarf.
@TheodoreMinick4 жыл бұрын
@@Plague_Crafter challenge accepted.
@thedragonflyers61844 жыл бұрын
The Curing Plague you don’t think dwarves can get it? Look at those beards
@robinthrush96724 жыл бұрын
Ironically, when I played my bard the DM had someone flirt with, creep on, or proposition her in almost every town we went to. One "tavern" owner even offered her a job to keep patrons warm at night.
@NovaGirl84 жыл бұрын
just read about a paladin making a holy sauna with torches, holy water and rocks to kill some vampire maidens. xD
@bonefetcherbrimley77404 жыл бұрын
That sounds hilarious. Tell me more!
@drakeserr59274 жыл бұрын
Can you put a link down for it?
@dinodude69924 жыл бұрын
Its all fun and games till a paladin starts building
@allankirk34123 жыл бұрын
Unless he is a vengeance Paladin or a paladin of conquest that sounds rather devious and dare I say dishonourable. Ingenious but still barring those to paths for the Palidin,very un-paladin like
@@theDMLair Dude.... You have no idea what some people said during their.. "descriptions". I made it a running joke in our campaigns that all of his past characters are dead by succubus babies. In the first town (Lucerna) There is a graveyard, that gets bigger and bigger.
@ryanvox78124 жыл бұрын
This partly reminds me of a character I had played during the second season of a homebrewed campaign. Volken Verloss the Tiefling. He never knew his father, and his succubes mother was stolen from him at a young age. He was forced to flee his home, and for years attempted to search for his family (he was 6 at the time, and 19 when he was introduced). By the end of the campaign, it had turned out that not only was the BBEG the one who had stolen her from him, but turns out was also his father, and was going to use her as leverage against Volken to force him under his thumb. In the end, being loyal to his only loving relative, Volken struck down his Drow father and saved his mother. Volken and her now travel with the help of a Well of Many Worlds to find a home that will be safe for them, and where they can live their days together with undying love for one another.
@drakeford48604 жыл бұрын
I want to quickly clarify some of the confusion I'm seeing in these comments regarding succubi and vampires (because I'm a big enough nerd that I can). It is true that older lore stated that one would become a True Vampire following their survival of a succubus' soul-stealing kiss (with some caveats). This is out of date information in regards to 5e, where there is no such occurrence, although I'm all on board with house-ruling it back in, because it's bloody awesome. There are two requirements, however. The primary one is that the succubus must actually be in love with the character in question, which is no small achievement in itself. Additionally, the character must survive the soul-stealing kiss. If they die, they die, and that's the end of it. The combination of these two makes the occurence both extremely rare and extraordinarily noteworthy.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
And I feel like all of those requirements were filled actually. Fun shall ensue. 😀
@drakeford48604 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair Well certainly keep us updated then. Sounds like things will get more than a little entertaining.
@jesternario4 жыл бұрын
The last time I used a succubus, it was actually a succubus SPIRIT possessing a poor human. So when they killed the hapless vessel, the spirit searched for another female with high charisma, and wouldn't you know it, we had a elven sorceress with high Charisma stat. It took a bit before the player caught on to the clues I was giving about her being possessed, since it was a passive posession that the succubus was doing as a game to alleviate its boredom (and potentially corrupt a mortal soul).
@Spartacus5474 жыл бұрын
A lot of players and even some DMs don't really know the details of succubus but if a play are so inclined to shack up with one and they survived the round of their death kiss they get rewarded by becoming a true vampire always fun
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Well we all know now. 😈
@Alresu4 жыл бұрын
The warlock reacts to the barbarians words, before he speaks them! Magic!
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
The Warlock can read people's thoughts. He's really good. :-)
@leosciotti13894 жыл бұрын
You get a vampire... When you seduce a succubus You're a kiss away from becoming a true vampire...
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
The last thing the world needs is Nigel as a vampire. YOU SIR ARE A GENIUS! 😈
@dorianrobinette97124 жыл бұрын
isn't the vampire created when someone's happens to survive a succubus kiss of death?
@leosciotti13894 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair I should have kept my mouth shut 🤣🤣
@jgr74874 жыл бұрын
how on Earth it is a mistake to describe a disguised Succubus - whose disguises tend to be as attractive as the Fiend itself - as extremely attractive? the players were quite dumb to act on her beauty alone.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Wait did you just call me players dumb? 😯
@gaminglord77754 жыл бұрын
Not cool man!
@jgr74874 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair idk. I just think you did it as it should've been done.
@Foralltosee16234 жыл бұрын
I'd say this is a crap idea, but it would seem that with your Bard, it was bloody brilliant. Absolutely smashing old chap, top of the day to you for that entertaining story.
@Jermbot154 жыл бұрын
"Having a player go in deep with a succubus" heh. .
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
But the context, the context! Oh.
@dm-entores31194 жыл бұрын
Im with something similar right now, like 5 sessions ago my dragonborn bard Rogan was defeated by demons and throw into the 4th circle of hell, what the party doesnt know and i fix with him is that he still alive as a revenant in hell trying to find a way to comeback, and now a succubus is following him too since she sees him as an unataniable prize. He will comeback in a few sessions with his new living corpse tricks
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@simonburling37624 жыл бұрын
Pure genius, does the succubus have nigels soul?
@nickwilliams83024 жыл бұрын
I would say yes. Nigel betrayed his companions for the Succubus. Textbook way they acquire souls.
@MasterSuchiro4 жыл бұрын
@@nickwilliams8302 No, he was been controled.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
In a manner of speaking yes.
@gnarthdarkanen74644 жыл бұрын
That would depend on his death, and whether or not he lived to see through a "redemption" plot from his betrayal... controlled or not by magic, he'd obviously been through enough "sin" for her to obtain it... BUT there are such things as viable "redemption" and "forgiveness". ;o)
@conradshtock30394 жыл бұрын
A wonderous opportunity to show the party why you never get into relationships w/o checking alignments...and also priming the party for future memes and such.
@mikhailthegreatestdragon36274 жыл бұрын
I'm at a campaign where a friend successfully seduced a banshee. Still hurts emotionally
@averagejoe4554 жыл бұрын
I tend to put the "pretty girl is a trap" play on the "Don't Use: Cliche" shelf with "mysterious stranger in the corner of the bar."
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Are dungeons and dragons on that shelf, too?
@averagejoe4554 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair Dungeons and Dragons was surprisingly like the fifth system I learned how to play. Started back in 2016 playing in a campaign that lasted two years. Currently running a game that's lasted about a year. :)
@HairyHariyama4 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned the Greater Invisibility running joke, it reminded me of one I have with my friends because the first D&D character I played with them was a wizard who always cast Grease in every battle. It reached similar memetic status among us. Also I was not prepared for Gary the Intern at the end of the video.
@bezretmet4 жыл бұрын
i'm always antsy about throwing demons at my players on low level. most demons are at least CR5 and can be crazy dangerous to fight but this might be worth a try :)
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
They'll be fine! Famous last words...
@gnarthdarkanen74644 жыл бұрын
I used to worry... BUT then I started preaching (at my Table anyways) that the terms aren't "random combats"... It's "random encounters" and not everything is necessarily spoiling for blood. I've since had lots of perfectly peaceable encounters in-game. That "accidentally rolled monster"... might just need a place to take a leak without a whole group staring and gawking at him/her... it... whatever. AND even Demons might need to go grocery shopping or have other run of the mill errands... SO if the PC's are out of their league, it's okay to signal it (a little meta never hurts) and let the Players decide not to get too blood-thirsty for their own good. I know... a game without any combat isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea either... BUT we (GM's) don't have to bear all the responsibility for getting someone killed unnecessarily. Players can learn when and when NOT (most importantly) to engage... as well as how to go about engaging. ;o)
@evannibbe93754 жыл бұрын
gnarth d'arkanen Demons are immortal (like Celestials and other fiends), not requiring food or drink, and automatically respawn back in their native plane when they are brought to 0 hp in a different plane. Fiends (other than Erinyes) also cannot enter the material plane unless summoned by a mortal person. These two features mean that encounters involving demons are basically combat, regardless of whether the player thinks that what is happening is combat.
@nohandlesplease4 жыл бұрын
11:00 I was expecting you to never find the body or even know he died because he was still invisible. "Hey guys, where did our bard go?" "Ain't got a clue, probably eloped with one of the tavern wenches."
@evannibbe93754 жыл бұрын
Concentration on the spell is lost if you die
@drakeford48604 жыл бұрын
Seems perfectly clever to me. Then again, my Warlock is wholehearted intent on strengthening his bloodline by siring and raising an alu-fiend, so maybe my perspective is a bit slanted.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, what's an alu-fiend?
@drakeford48604 жыл бұрын
@@theDMLair I think 5e doesn't have a proper entry for them at the moment, so technically they fall under the Cambion umbrella for now. More specifically, they're the daughter of a succubus and a mortal male. Typically speaking, they inherit their mother's looks, natural skill in manipulation, and some degree of inherent magical ability. The thing that makes them more ideal for my character than a Cambion (in this case meaning the male offspring) is that they are far less naturally inclined towards evil. For whatever reason, they share the succubi's innate drive to gain companionship and form bonds and connections, but they lack their mothers' abusive, malevolent streak. When the succubus is the "custody holding" parent (which is typically the case), this often gets leveraged against the alu-fiend. The succubus essentially manipulates her child with the lure of parental approval and affection, while using the alu-fiend as a pawn in whatever plots she happens to be working. Typically speaking, these alu-fiends do end up being quite evil once all is said and done, though they're certainly victims themselves. Alu-fiends raised by their fathers, assuming that dad isn't also a BBEG or a spiteful prick, tend to have a better shot at life. Their more positive aspects can be nurtured, and they can end up becoming genuinely quite kind and protective.
@SwankyKitteh824 жыл бұрын
He gonna die! He gonna feel real good... BUT HE GONNA DIE!
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Both true. 😂
@thomasangell25456 күн бұрын
This was absolutely a ten percent idea. I am a new DM, and listening to these great stories really gives me so much inspiration. thank you so very much!
@fhuber75074 жыл бұрын
I'd have been passing Nigel some notes about how much he REALLY wanted to do things that seemed not too bad of an idea... but were aiding the succubus due to the succubus' charm effect. And not telling the source of the charm. And I'd have been looking for opportunities for bringing in succubi, incubi or cambion shape changed to be attractive to the others to play the same game with them. Once the whole party is charmed... send them off like puppets to do things that are promoting the plans of the fiends.
@wonderfurret82234 жыл бұрын
I kind of wanted to see something more sneaky on the succubus side to call it a top notch idea, but to be fair the way you rolled with it I think would have been 10/10. Just imagine the tasty souls in the adventurers ready for the succubus to devour through a well placed kiss.
@reubenconner16794 жыл бұрын
Nigel is like a rogue in my party called Lyle. He always runs off, nearly dies and attract more enemies and then runs away from them for us to fight.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
I think there are lots of rogues like that. LOL
@zacharym69474 жыл бұрын
Bard best class also why am I up at 1am, I have work tomorrow.
@Tiamatwing4 жыл бұрын
Went better for the bard than the one in my groups campaign if you can believe it. We are randomly dropped into sigil and directed to an inn where we can stay and our parties bard sees a succubus having a drink there, in her natural form, and decides to try chat her up gaining her attention and planting him in the crosshairs of her appitites resulting in her using her abilities to enthral him, luckily he also tried to enthral her with his music at the same time and succeeding, avoiding having his soul become desert due to the DM was pulling fully from real world succubus lore, but the damage was done. Cue several sessions later and the bards player having to leave the group and a portal opening up with a familiar fiendish hand beckoning him to come which his character did, can't remember if anyone tried to stop him, but months, maybe a year later real world time and multiple visits to sigil later 2 party members find out all this time he has been kept as a food source for said succubus and she had just used up the last of his soul resulting in his death and both other characters barely escaping the succubus during the investigation. They ending up saving their necks after getting on the succubus' bad side by convincing the manager of the inn we stayed in during our visits to sigil to throw the succubus out of the portal that was set up in the inn into the underdark with some inn rule quoting who quickly became food for a mindflayer infected dragon (can't remember official name).
@fl00fydragon4 жыл бұрын
Waaaait, wait wait wait wait. You have a dead PC that hooked up with a succubus and gave her an army in an ongoing campaign. Here's how you get that 10% ideea be a 1% masterpiece: Nigel in death has become a demon and the partner in crime of said succubus, an incubus if you will. I have a similar story with a tiefling bard (female) seducing a succubus, it resulted in her slowly becoming a succubus without her noticing up to a step before the player would loose the character to fully becoming a demon, the rest of the game was an interesting balancing act of the PC having to "appease" her now mostly demonic nature (because if she didn't she'd "starve") without completely falling into demonhood .
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Psst.... You and I think alike. Just don't tell my players... They haven't found out yet. Lol
@primarchstar20874 жыл бұрын
So what happened to her?
@fl00fydragon4 жыл бұрын
@@primarchstar2087 Initially she got the party wanted as her finally finding out what she was becoming (after failing to notice for 3 months, not by failure of the dice, but idiocy) by killing an archduke she was having an affair with. Then she had to manage to persuade the party that she was still herself and it was not worth ditching her for getting into trouble for trying to seduce anything they came across. Classic name clearing plus a comical abstinence arc that nearly starved her to death, followed by a demon priest telling her what she was (who she killed by smashing her guitar repeatedly onto his head) Followed by acceptance (which almost got het through the edge as she thought that if she only killed bad guys she'd be fine but it turns out that she would be bound to the will of the succubus if she turned, overwriting her will. Lots of other stuff followed with the succubus teasing and pestering her with summoned familiars and even imposing irreversible transformations to turn her into a "living sculpture of seduction". Her realizing that she can't fight using holy powers as it harmed her as much as her "master" if used on either one. All leading up to near the end (where I allow my players to go op because I end my campaigns with some good old fashioned god killing) where she manages to reverse the contract, becoming the mistress of the succubus, allowing herself to become a full devil without losing her mind and will. She ended up as the queen of the concept of necessary evil. Also a harem of anyone who she seduced to serve her for eternity. All in all, started out with bad rolls and outright STUPIDITY from my players, and ended up quite well. Well... A party member became a lich to avoid becoming her servant.
@evannibbe93754 жыл бұрын
Currently, the idea is that, based on the Succubus lore, the better form of the now dead Bard is that of a True Vampire.
@paocut90184 жыл бұрын
Id want to say that it is a 10% idea but at the same time, in the monster manual, that is exactly how sucubus act: they find a victimg, they great a personality and appear in their dreams. Then they make their actiual entrance, seduce the victim (possibly without charming them because they want it to be sincear so that the soul of the victim is totally devoted to them) to the point that the person does anything that the sucubis tells him/her withiut needing magical charminh and then make their move on whatever their plan is. What you did is basically that but without the preparationnal dream part
@WitherLord8884 жыл бұрын
So are you telling me that the bard had fun...DOING IT with the succebus?! I thought they gave soul sucking kisses and horrid tortures...how does the bard get hard on this?!
@scyobiempire44503 жыл бұрын
It’s a bard. What did you expect?
@cameronf58934 жыл бұрын
Definitely a 10% idea :) Demons Below is awesome! I haven't been able to run it yet, but the read through was great and I can't wait to use it :)
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, Demons Below was a blast when I ran it at a con after making it.
@spiffywolf28504 жыл бұрын
When I read the title I laughed then watched the video and watch more.
@Skulltap4 жыл бұрын
This is a great way to capitalize on character's habits to bring them even more into the game!
@Plague_Crafter4 жыл бұрын
That was pure genius. I hope to have a story like that one day.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Just play DND long enough and the stories come. :-)
@OvarosX4 жыл бұрын
Golden! love it demon lady feeding off of one of the players and using him and time magic to build an army i love it.
@krmusick4 жыл бұрын
Bards Seducing/Sexing ALLTHETHINGS is one of the few tropes I ban from my table. I frakking LOATH that crap.
@_gold_eye_26564 жыл бұрын
My character was a changeling rogue who I multi-classed into a Hex Blade Warlock early on, at around like level 5, the story went into the feywild where my DM introduced a powerful Archfey champion (she’s kind of like a goddess of the hunt like Artemis or something) who ended up being my patron my character at this point was frustrated with the fact that he felt inadequate to the party. He had a high intelligence stat and Charisma along with Dexterity I rolled well on him he had worse wisdom and strength however and his constitutional was pretty average at a plus two. So when we were traveling through the fey wild to resurrect a slain party member an Archfey offers her help but in exchange she wanted the first born child of one of the party members, the party were hesitant but my rogue, who had a cunning idea and nothing to lose decided to volunteer he had signed a pact with her which revived his friend but the pact never mentioned the life for a life, sacrifice your kid type thing it just mentioned that “she wanted his first born”, so he asked “so when do we start” and she asked “what do you mean?” He chuckled “you said you wanted my first born?” and she was like “oh...” and now my character is a hex blade warlock who has an attractive Archfey Huntress as his patron.
@thehatterking7284 жыл бұрын
@Gavin Allison dude this made me laugh so hard nice one...
@kykisaky78414 жыл бұрын
I would've done the same, never tried multi-classing before but that is a good pact.
@thehatterking7284 жыл бұрын
True
@_gold_eye_26564 жыл бұрын
I mean if you think about it. I just made my patron, not my boss like usual contracts, but my wife in character, so she shares her power out of love, I guess? In the same way the rogue I’m playing right now is doing.
@thehatterking7284 жыл бұрын
Doing what?
@xornxenophon36524 жыл бұрын
Well, that succubus-lady should have hired the band to play "Lord of Castamere" at the feast instead; far less suspicious and always good for a laugh or two...
@KovuPride4 жыл бұрын
That was a good idea
@zoberraz4 жыл бұрын
It's probably one of the better ways of using a Succunus. Kudos on you being patient and playing the long game with her. I think it makes that one antagonist that much more compelling. Too bad Nigel died, though. There could have been a dynamic similar to Athos and & Milady from the 3 Musketeers. :)
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Yes Nigel died. However his soul was consumed buy a devil or demon what are those two. And a succubus fled back to the abyss or nine Hells one of those two. And the succubus still dearly loves Nigel. I'll let you connect the dots. Let's just say I'm not done with Nigel and his succubus. :-)
@Roak1994 жыл бұрын
Absolutely a 10% idea in my opinion. The long game is the best and most notable.
@FiddlerForest4 жыл бұрын
See this is a brilliant solution for the characters who want to nail every bar wench and noble woman they meet. You could even make it a running thing. --The succubus is quite taken by the bard's advances when she first crosses paths with him in the village. For a creature of pure desire, the night of torrid passion was intoxicating. So she pursues him. Taking different forms in each city, a bar made or a lady of the night, on and on it goes. But she has a deeper purpose than just carnal delights, after each night she returns to the hell from wince she came to birth their child for her lord's army, and returns (for time runs differently in the Hells). On and on it goes until one day, (when the army is big enough) she confesses to her lover who she really is. Offers him a place at her side leading the armies of their children if only he'll love her in return!-- It'd be a helluva twist, possibly a great way to steal a player into being a villian or at least set up what might be a dramatic, gut wrenching battle. haha! Thank you for feeding my idea machine!!!
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Me turn Nigel into a villain? I would never do such a thing.😈
@phantafalconpunch4 жыл бұрын
Never forget "that" guy, the true hero of DnD
@Munchkin.Of.Pern094 жыл бұрын
Nigel should come back with the Succubus and their children, if you get the player’s permission. That would be so cool!
@peterwhitcomb83154 жыл бұрын
40% good that turned into 3% better than genius ❤
@pandas244 жыл бұрын
Good video Luke love your videos keep it up. I have just started dungeon mastering how would you try to get your players to actually play in the game. Every time I ask my friends to play they don’t want to. 😊
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
In all honesty I would not put much effort into trying to convince my friends to play. What happens if you do finally convinced them might just be that they play out of social obligation and aren't very invested in the game at all. It might be a better approach to just try to find strangers who actually want to play D&D. You can do this online all over the place of course. What happens then is that you get people who are invested in the game and want to play the game. And it's going to often make the game a lot better quality than if you were to just have friends who really didn't want to play and who were only there because they kind of got strong-armed into doing so.
@shiro_the_trap25134 жыл бұрын
I would've had the Succubus try to get the bard on her side in the fight somehow, be it a curse she placed on him during one of their interactions or a skill she could have used in the battle. I feel it would have been interesting to see how the party reacted (if) when their bard defected to the succubus he knocked up, several times by the sound of it
@king_sebok25644 жыл бұрын
I must say this was 100% genius in my own opinion. An you should sent it up where later on someone else is captured by his children. Yo turn it into a character building type of thing.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Oh I have lots of plans for Nigel and his succubus bride. LOL
@king_sebok25644 жыл бұрын
Honestly that was only one of the many things that I thought of if I wanted to push him in that direction.
@Keyce00134 жыл бұрын
Nigels never die. They just go invisible forever.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
So true! Lol
@Randomdudefromtheinternet2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Nigel would’ve gone full HISHE Darth Vader, like “Wait, this guys are my children? I am a father?! OMG, I AM A FATHER!!! HEY FRIENDS, I AM A FATHER!!!…”
@alexagne75248 ай бұрын
Sometimes you need a plan C. But I believe that no idea should be thrown away. Sometimes some creativity can make wonders.
@thewolfstu4 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT! Hah, can't wait to see the day when you get a bard who wants to seduce a Dragon or Dragoness. lol
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Oh the fun to be had! 😈
@thewolfstu4 жыл бұрын
Indubitably! Haha! >:D
@krispalermo81334 жыл бұрын
3.5e rules rogue3rd/wizard8th CR:11 BAB+6 diplomacy/bluff: 6ranks each. spell Polymorph Self "large dragon." And the spell caster may have to polymorph the huge dragon down to large size to get any safe action going. Or just turn the dragon into a human.
@thewolfstu4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Very Clever. lol *Makes me wonder if you might have played a character or seen a character who has done that exact thing, Hah.*
@krispalermo81334 жыл бұрын
@@thewolfstu back in AD&D2e 20 some years ago I play a wizard who got off a lucky spell on a young adult green dragon and turn her into a human woman. Miss Clover was part time NPC/ to PC, depending on how many players we had a given night at the game shop. Miss Clover love calling PC Paladins that detect evil on her murder hobos. Then 3e came out, and my wizard became a daddy of four. Ran a campaign setting where green & red dragons would court sorcerers & wizards to create half-dragons as pawns for political social status . Young dragons can't cast polymorph till they are mature or near ancient, so they seek out spell caster to help them build up their treasure hoards. The two game shops I use to play at had us flip a coin to decide your character gender. This started with AD&D and 3e. I got stuck as a woman and my tenth level party was found by a dragon on a random encounter chart roll. So I had my character turn into a dragon to make a deal with the dragon. In one game I trick a male player RP a male rogue into use a Scroll of Baneful Polymorph Other on him self, to turn into a female red dragon. I lie to him, saying what the scroll does with my Bluff skill roll and he was his skill Use Magic Device. " Mr. Rogue became Lady Crimson, and Lord Red Dragon will like ti say, " Heellooo...!" Our DM had to get up and leave the table for awhile , and some of us had to just lay down on the ground. In another game I played a male rogue that was really neutral evil at deed and heart. Grew up as a poor pig farmer. He fell in love with a Night Hag. After trading a bunch of souls to a devil pit fiend to buy a Wish. He became a night hag him/ her self.
@cthulhufhtagn24834 жыл бұрын
People like the barbarian are the reason succubuses exist.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. 😂
@jacobadams42744 жыл бұрын
I actually played in a one shot campaign where there was a fiend warlock that tried and succeed in seducing a winged demon, so this is totally something he would do. Just fyi, this warlock played like a glamour bard.
@revtwilight93082 жыл бұрын
This is the 10% and something i may have to use as a new dm if i get any characters like that
@richardtheraven48833 жыл бұрын
I have a similar plan. A succubus that disguise herself as a matron of a brothel of worshippers of Graz'zt will try to get closer to my party paladin in order to charm him and have a child. We are playing 3.5 so if he will fall for the succubus he will become a black guard. I can't wait to see what will happen.
@sfrink14253 жыл бұрын
One of my players had in his back story that his young wife went missing only a few weeks into their marriage, and his ultimate goal was to find her. This was with the players starting at level 1. Once they had reached the right level (~8), I worked their "reunion" into a canned module I was using, "S4: Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth." Semi-SPOILER: This adventure ends with the players discovering a central chamber, within which a beautiful female knight is sleeping, once seemingly only awoken with a kiss. But all is not as it seemed, of course... So, I substituted this NPC with the player's missing wife. Those who know this adventure can imagine the chaos that ensued afterwards!
@robertmatlockjr55984 жыл бұрын
DM: make a party of adversaries and slowly introduce them as NPC here and there, but the are after the party... Equal to or a little less then the players, villains arch-nemesis the counterbalance of a party and then let them fight one way or another???
@tut28Angel4 жыл бұрын
Dam the bard's game is over 9000. XD
@xxdomoxxkunxx4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that the succubus liked nigel so much that she just kinda settles with him and just becomes a member of the party
@Creationweek4 жыл бұрын
I was reallying hoping this had a happy ending where niegil married the succubus and they lived happily ever after. Or at least she would continue to visit niegil from time to time and give visitation time to the kids.
@RIVERSRPGChannel4 жыл бұрын
Good idea Yes plan B can sometimes be even better.
@Jurassic-yv3zm4 жыл бұрын
Pure ingenious gold you got there and also I have another idea to use
@poundtownlegend15644 жыл бұрын
Do you have a background in public speaking? Your presentation skills are smooth as butter.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Not a background, but I have done public speaking. 😀
@thatoneguythatsalwaysonlin27704 жыл бұрын
Don’t Humans whenever they kiss a succubus who loves them and survives become a vampire. That would be a cool plot, the bard becomes a Vampire.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Nigel the Vampire... That sounds fun. :)
@thatoneguythatsalwaysonlin27704 жыл бұрын
the DM Lair He just spams Greater Invisibility.
@fhuber75074 жыл бұрын
I never heard of dying by succubus kiss creating a vampire. Yo could certainly have that in your world, but its not the way it normally works.
@thatoneguythatsalwaysonlin27704 жыл бұрын
F Huber There’s a video about Succubus and it mentions that part.
@rosure74 жыл бұрын
@@fhuber7507 actually it is from deeper lore of the world of dnd. But it has to be from a succubus that has fallen totally in love with someone. And then they have to kiss the succubus and survive their soul snatching kiss. It's not as easy as survive the kiss of a succubus. And that kiss isn't meant to charm too.
@stevenphilpott42947 ай бұрын
Going in deep... Brilliant
@josephyacomine95864 жыл бұрын
Better yet, they don't have to be villains. A few of the cambions could be neutral mercenaries, or long-conners. After all, it was a hero who made them, so helping heroes out to potentially gain favour and gain a few more cambions to their ranks could be a neat idea. THEY can be the villains :D
@scyobiempire44504 жыл бұрын
How many voices do you know off by heart?
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
A handful but the real trick is improvising them on the Fly. You just start talking in a weird way and you stick with it. And then the ones that your players really love those are the ones you keep with and put in to your repertoire. Like my Gary the intern voice. Players love that crap. Or my Barbarian voice apparently that one is well-loved is also
@nerdoxide29524 жыл бұрын
Yay new vid
@nerdoxide29524 жыл бұрын
Wow I got hearted real quick
@Gember_Alice4 жыл бұрын
I have a question. How do you handle secrets that only one pc knows. Do you use secret notes, good roleplaying or something else.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
I usually take the player into a different room to briefly discuss. Then reply on the player to RP it. Notes work too after the initial discussion has happened.
@Gember_Alice4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm sure this will help my games since I had trouble dealing with that kind of situations in the past.
@golfgirl75304 жыл бұрын
I recently started following your subreddit on reddit. It doesn't seem to be very active with only 1 post and 4 members (Me Included). Is it still being used or has it been abandoned?
@Taylor1989s4 жыл бұрын
Um you sir never read dnd horror stories. You get plenty of karma with crappy ideas there.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
That's fair. lol
@darkspartan1193 жыл бұрын
Is this particular scenario in one of the vods on your other channel?
@dannik99324 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they nerfed succubi so hard and 5th edition. Did you use the standard stat block, or did you modify your succubus?
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Many of my monsters walk into battles with standard stat blocks and then get customized as we go. :-)
@googlepoodle58144 жыл бұрын
Succubi give special benefits, while taking more degrees of control over them
@crazycreepy94084 жыл бұрын
About the camping that you make demon below. Do you recommand it for a begginer dm for it's first session of is life?
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Honesty, it might not be the best beginner DM dungeon. It's fun, but not linear and a new DM might not know how to handle a couple of the situations. But It's not long, either so it might be worth a try.
@hanarielgodlike92834 жыл бұрын
so what? MY PC is MARRIED to a succubus
@AviLazar4 жыл бұрын
I'd have had a trap set, by the succubus. When the heroes shows up with weapons, have the Lady cry for guards. The guards come in, and arrest the adventurers for attempted murder of a noble Lady. They lose prestige, money, maybe equipment and go to jail. That starts an dventure where the group must provide the Lady is not what she seems
@noahtackett62644 жыл бұрын
How did Nigel the Bard die?
@CosmicDuskWolf4 жыл бұрын
I think it was amazing. I would of posted it.
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Didn't I just post it? 😂
@eagled204 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a great setup for a future enemy. I think in the old MM2 for Ad&d they also had another offspring of human and demon that was specifically female and they were surprisingly strong. It would be a fun trick to throw at the players, that while the cambions were gone, their sisters still roam the 9 hells.
@johnlong89524 жыл бұрын
How would you deal with players who don't want to play any form of negatives for their characters? For example I'm playing a game where we currently have characters who are maxed in combat stats. Using the points buy system so max possible in the three main (Fighter is con/str/DeX). But while not in combat encounters the two characters, paly and fighter have 8 int each. They roleplay that they are batman's levels of deduction, and they've said "my character should know this about X" I've asked them to explain how their int score is so low but its the standard. If it was a basic 0 modifier I would just say they are average person but they specifically put their int and wisdoms to have a disadvantage. Do I just ignore it for rp purposes and just add more creatures into combat to deal with the weaknessess?
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
I would make them make INT checks (Investigation, History, etc.) to see what their characters actually know. Then their dump stats will do the job they refuse to RP. And then when they fail, tell them their characters don't actually know those things. If they refuse to play along, shoot maybe even make them reasign their ability scores to reflect how they are roleplaying.
@zinkheroofyoutube80044 жыл бұрын
God damn bards
@jamu80604 жыл бұрын
This was genius!
@christianwhite88774 жыл бұрын
By chance did they take any levels of warlock? because to me it would make to much sense
@Sloth4163 жыл бұрын
Pure 10
@Matt-md5yt4 жыл бұрын
Crazy story today. I like it
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
Every day with the Sword Coast Guard... Lol
@ohthenoises4 жыл бұрын
45% + 50% + 10%. Hmmmm 🤔
@theDMLair4 жыл бұрын
I make videos... Math is a secondary consideration... 😂
@crazycreepy94084 жыл бұрын
That why the 10% is exeptionnal
@christianlorrain8774 жыл бұрын
It can be an overlay of percentages. Bad ideas can be meh and genious ideas can be bad.
@TheodoreMinick4 жыл бұрын
@@christianlorrain877 Some of the best stories come from bad genius ideas.