D4C Love Train VS Wonder of U (STAND OFF)

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Stand off is back! And returning with one of the most highly requested match-ups, D4C Love Train vs Wonder of U, Miricales vs calamity.
Music used in order:
Eyes of Heaven OST - Enrico Pucci Battle BGM
JJBA OST - Theme of Joseph Joestar
Gwinn SBR Fan Made OST - September 25, 1890
Gwinn SBR Fan Made OST - Johnny Joestar
Gwinn SBR Fan Made OST - Funny Valentine
JoJolion Fanmade OST - Josefumi Kujo's Theme
Nico Bellisario - Josuke Theme
P4 OST - Pursuing My True Self
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[@xForts]

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[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

xfort would stands that break reality like ger,TA4,soft and wet go beyond,d4c love train and even the world over heaven(since i am not sure cause it does break reality but its closed in a small range which could work similar to how tusk act 4 works and his fist would not be affected by calamity) be able to beat Wonder of u?

[@iamacelestial]

​@@saifkhan-kc9echow does ger break reality

[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

@@iamacelestial because it basically ignores time and space (inf death sending to any time period and basically sending diavolo to a pocket dimension) and it is also able to ignore the law of time erasure and change something thats fated to happen its the same as saying why do soft and wet go beyond or tusk act 4 break logic it is mainly because they ignore it just like how ger does but what i am curious about is why does xfort think that d4c lt breaks reality or is on the same lvl as soft and wet go beyond/tusk act 4

[@christianrathmayer5399]

​@@iamacelestialEasy, by having an ability that Puts people into an Infinit cycle of death. (Would be my answer)

[@EdgarCastilloGameMaster101]

Here’s a suggestion for an analysis fight. Foo Fighters vs iggy and his stand, the fool

[@pagawn1640]

Imagine Valentine tries to attack Tooru and out of nowhere a rock gets stepped on by a horse, goes flying, and achieves the golden ratio and breaks through Love Train.

[@justonyx6721]

funny idea, although the unique abilities of the spin (aging, tusk infinite spin, left side blindness…) clearly come from the users utilizing the spin rather than the actual spin which is present everywhere in nature

[@pagawn1640]

@@justonyx6721 yes, but did you consider the spin of the horse that stepped on the rock?

[@justonyx6721]

@@pagawn1640 My bad, you’re right that the horse could be a Zeppeli family horse

[@errexe0]

You do realise to achieve the infinite rotation you need horsepower in tandum with Johnny/ another attacker's power.

[@victorbrule7712]

😳

[@solidskullz5736]

The battle where reality collapses in on itself

[@xyzeia8207]

Yeah I feel like it would be a draw due to one being the embodiment of positive and negative energy it would all balance out

[@galeb7850]

I believe that sometime Valentine's misfortune redirection would hit Tooru himself

[@thebreaddealer4942]

​@@galeb7850well I'd valentine steps on a rock inside the barrier it could like break his leg bc of wonder of u

[@thebreaddealer4942]

​@@galeb7850it just an example

[@galeb7850]

@@thebreaddealer4942 no, man, the barrier REDIRECTS MISFORTUNE, he is phisically unable to "step on a rock an break his leg or something"

[@anasuiatdisneyland7611]

D4C: No drip rabbit WoU: Cleanest drip on all of Morioh

[@docilelikewintercatfish9897]

Also a doctor that can cure cancer

[@anasuiatdisneyland7611]

@@docilelikewintercatfish9897 And he is cool with the doctor that can quite literally go up your urethra

[@DiegoXRA]

Funny Valentine took all the drip

[@pedror942]

Bru you tripping d4c finest looking stand, and the user is the drippiest world leader

[@anasuiatdisneyland7611]

@@pedror942 Fine looking? Yes Drip as having a dope as attire? Nah

[@ScizorSenpai]

I would love to see a stand off between mandom and literally anyone else

[@MrMnM-ed5ht]

What about Mandom and King Crimson? A similar theme of opposites clashing like here

[@anasuiatdisneyland7611]

Hey Ya! solos, no diff

[@ScizorSenpai]

@@MrMnM-ed5ht man that would be soo cool , who do you think is gonna win tho as king crimson is 8 second time eraser but mandom can do only 6

[@docilelikewintercatfish9897]

Would like Mandom vs Star Platinum Rewind vs time stop

[@docilelikewintercatfish9897]

@@ScizorSenpai plus, king crimson has epitaph

[@starblade8719]

The irony of the “ticket to ride” “love train” naming scheme is that in the song Love Train it’s clearly stated “you don’t need no ticket”

[@HedgeThatDamn]

Honestly I think Wonder of U is my favourite Villain Jojo Stand. The idea that the MOMENT you even think about going after Moment of U, Calamity strikes you. You could quite literally be in a room with nothing but cushioned walls, and the moment you go "Yeah I'm gonna get the son of a bitch" a plane door just crashes through the fucking building. It's so goddamn cool and honestly I am so excited to have my anime only buddies see it in like...5 years? give or take.

[@goldenblyat4681]

More like a decade

[@zrethor]

I might be remembering this incorrectly but doesn't it like escalate over time and how close you get.

[@okay1967]

@@zrethor It escalates upon your intent and the context of the situation for "pursuing" and whether or not you are pursuing his stand or Tooru himself. Questioning the Head Doctor's existence and presence may lead to a calamity, but one less deadly compared to thinking about harming the Head Doctor. If you pursue Tooru instead of the Head Doctor/Wonder of U, the calamities would be much more severe and powerful, as seen when Jobin looks at the security camera footages and notices Tooru hiding behind the trees before Jobin trips on his own blood, the Locacaca pot pressing a plastic tube deeper into his heart, killing him. Yasuho also went against Tooru's words and called Kei Nijimura to help Josuke, which resulted a calamity where an escape door unhinged from a flying plane was falling down towards Yasuho's location. Tooru also stated himself that the calamity would reach it's peak form when a person would end up pursuing him instead of his stand.

[@manupm9161]

I'm so glad this series is back. Could you do a match between Limp Bizkit and Civil War? Both are stands capable of creating zombies to fight and can revive their users in case they die

[@neoxus30]

In a matchup between them, I'd say Limp Bizkit wins) Not mainly because of Limp Bizkit's ability, but because Sports Maxx's only regret is not making Gloria suffer more and he definitely wouldn't regret killing Axl Ro)

[@manupm9161]

@@neoxus30 we don't know nothing about Sports backstory, so its possible he suffered a troubling past than made him the horrible person he is.

[@GyattsumakiOPM]

Imagine them in a cemetery

[@DeathSwiper]

Flacid pancake wins anytime

[@havinearlong9055]

@@neoxus30that’s really not how Civil War works, it manifests the sins of abandonment, not simply dependent on people’s guilt and perceptions, it’s clearly shown that objects which people actively wanted to get rid of still gets manifested. It’s also explicitly stated in the introduction of the stand that no one can escape from their sins inside the ability range of Civil War.

[@mcfighter2923]

This just makes me wonder how Araki’s going to implement the “flow” in the Jojolands

[@higginswalsan]

I don’t know how it will be executed, but a note on the second chapter mentions something about a world where the dark and light are together. However it’s done it will be based on a mixture between the positive and negative flows

[@greatdevourskeleton7685]

What I imagine ultimate damage reflection, in one side of the world someone stabs a person and the stand can reflect that to anyone

[@DLEAVES]

The lava rocks already seem to be some form of flow manipulation

[@iamacelestial]

because of what we have so far in jojolands, I feel like jojolands is gonna be one of those jojo parts that's just simply really really good

[@LucasF25]

Well... He's already implementing it, so that's interesting

[@regularshowman3208]

Trying to fully understand the flow of positive and negative energy/miracles and calamities in the SBRverse has always broken my brain a little. They're both such dense, thought out concepts to the point where you *really* need to soak in every piece of information. When it comes to explaining how they work, no dialogue is throwaway. I only really realized somewhat recently that Wonder of U's ability isn't insular, it literally manipulates a pre-existing force in the world to protect the user. I honestly do really dig the concepts of positive and negative flow in the SBRverse in general. They feel like a more unique and interesting version of fate in the original universe. Fate in the original universe was interesting in its own right, but this take on it feels more fleshed out, and it's not as rigid as suggesting that characters' actions are pre-determined.

[@docilelikewintercatfish9897]

The battle of, Immovable Object vs Immovable Object

[@jaden-cc5vp]

STAND OFF IS BACK AND WOU IS IN IT

[@alainblandi2885]

It's a stalemate, but one is locked in place while the other is completely free. And Tooru is a rock human, by default he wins a stalemate against a human.

[@augustocraveiro100]

Didn't you watch the video?

[@thunderspark1536]

Even with wonder of u, any rock human would lose to literally infinite valentines. No matter how many times they die, he can send more, and more, and more, looking for tohru till the ends of the earth. Wonder of U has the range sure, but d4c's base ability has the resources and time to win.

[@alainblandi2885]

@@thunderspark1536 The other Valentines won't be immune to the calamities. They would lose without Tooru having to put any effort.

[@thunderspark1536]

@@alainblandi2885 Here's how he would do it: valentine would bring in other valentines who's only goal is to find powerful stand users. They would have no knowledge of WOU, and think they are getting the users just to make the president happy. He'd pay them, bribe them, whatever else, (probably bankrupt the US but whatever) and send em to die to see if they can beat WOU. Eventually he'd find someone like josuke who ends up winning against him. Even if he doesn't, rock humans are not immortal, and can live for (going off the wiki here) around 240 years. As valentine ages, he can bring in a younger version that stays safe in love train. Even if neither can directly harm the other, valentine can outlast him indefinitely.

[@redacted8577]

@@thunderspark1536 thats not funny valentine winning tho. thats josuk8 winning. but even then go beyond only belongs to josuke and the universe where the corpse exists so it is quite immposible for valentine to find someone with josuk8 ability.

[@13j48]

The real “Oh, are you approaching me” battle

[@keeganseck7751]

Tooru: "I have a pocket full of rock monsters. 'Pocket Monsters' if you will." Valentine: "I have a pocket full of Mes. And Yous."

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love these videos man! Your channel is as epic as Jojo itself!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

[@Columbina3rdHarbringer]

0:35 sounds like "The Balance" from Jugram Haschwalth of Bleach.

[@enyonamadinyira5390]

Can't wait for jojolion retrospective part 2

[@lordbloxmans4358]

Love Train and WOU alone, it's a stalemate, but you're forgetting that D4C can bring out clones of himself from alternate dimensions. WOU prioritises one person at a time with his 'calamity', so D4C could keep pushing with his clones to Tooru until he gets the jump on him

[@frozensenchi3739]

Wouldn’t the act of bringing clones in to fight Tooru count as a “pursuit”?

[@yomireal7570]

​@@frozensenchi3739yea but he'd be immune to misfortune in love train so itd be irrelevant if wou activated on him

[@frozensenchi3739]

@@yomireal7570 Doesn’t Valentine have to leave Love Train to attack or hop across dimensions though? It’s been a while since I last read SBR.

[@okay1967]

What you said about Wonder of U's calamities prioritizing one person at a time is not true at all! Calamities can happen to multiple people at the same time, but there is a "priority" target. Although, it's more towards the intensity of calamites upon such subject. The priority target would be placed first in the order of calamity, meaning that they would basically become the next person to die in the universe altogether. When Yasuho was placed first in the order, Josuke was still experiencing calamites alongside the Higashikata family, and Kei Nijimura ended up dying to a calamity after Yasuho had been placed first! So no, what you said wasn't true by a second, and if you had actually read JoJolion, you'd know this. The others who are in the flow of calamity who are not in priority will still experience deadly calamities, but the calamities experienced by others aren't necessarily "immediate" compared to the one who's first in line to die.

[@lordbloxmans4358]

@@okay1967 yeah you're right, its the way I worded it. And in my defence, I didn't enjoy reading Jojolion the first read around and didn't focus on the more minute details: might need to give it another read. But even if what I said was wrong in some ways, my argument still has a bit of reason. If there is a priority target during a calamity, they will be affected the most. Given enough clones, even if it is an AOE (eg. deadly rain), one will eventually get close enough to WOU/Tooru. Their attack probably still won't land, but I think if we're talking about an actual all out battle, even WOU might be overwhelmed by the sheer number of clones.

[@drearydoll6305]

I feel like wonder of u's ability SOMEHOW has priority over love train just because araki did say it was the strongest power as of jojollion's writting. Something like the noncanon world over heaven. being able to ignore everything aside of "ITS THE SAME TYPE OF STAND"

[@xForts]

What Araki said something more like the concept of calamity is the strongest. He was speaking more outside of JoJo, how calamity effects everyone

[@TheVeganStudent_]

@@xForts Dude it was literally in regards to the strongest villain Stand, and if that's not enough to prove it you also brought up in your video how Calamity was able redirect Johnny's infinite rotation the same thing that defeated D4C Love Train so how is that not clear that WoU would easily destroy D4C Love Train.

[@ARandomGuy872]

​@@TheVeganStudent_who hurt you? 😂😂

[@comicsans3421]

@@ARandomGuy872 better question is what the heck do you even mean? they are debating which stand could win .-.

[@gargamella69]

Araki said It was the hardest to overcome in villains

[@taylormurphy-clark]

Happy to see this again

[@yasumo7709]

bro i havent seen these stand off vids in a hellah of a long time glad to see it again!

[@iamgameing3840]

never thought id see another one of these again

[@wodahexe8400]

Purple Haze (Flesh-Eating Virus) vs. Green Day (Flesh-Eating Mold) If we can have Bad Company vs. Harvest, we can have this matchup as well. And besides, I'm surprised Fugo and Ciocolotta have yet to be paired off against each other.

[@doce3609]

With this you let me understand the end of jojolion a bit more and why go beyond exists

[@SubmissiveMemerality]

I have Wonder of U winning, because Araki said Wonder of U is strongest villain stand.

[@daqwanparrott3638]

Thank you for finally talking about this topic I have been wondering about this for ever.🎉

[@jadeghost3602]

I'm so glad in this video you simply spoke on what Wonder of U is clearly capable of and didn't do something like twist Araki's words to try and say that WOU is above reality or something like that. Great video overall

[@METAsMETAs]

IM PEEPING RN

[@koroo2891]

Never thought I would see stand off in this channel It’s been years

[@Venom87542]

I hope we get more info on November Rain so we can have a standoff between November Rain vs. Catch the Rainbow.

[@juanhaines7295]

Would you do keicho nijimora vs narancia girhga? Both have stand that revolve around military force.

[@maccamachine]

Wonder of U is really one of my favorite stand I just love the concept

[@oniwrath]

Interesting perspective on Love Train. Keep up the good work ☮️♥️

[@dariusjohnson9420]

xForts was cooking this time The Stand-off series is iconic

[@blankbunsch]

The return of the king 👑

[@wizardly9211]

me and my friend literally just got home from a three day convention cosplaying funny valentine and wonder of u

[@100-People]

Wonder of U sounds like walking Final Destination

[@illusionist1872]

yea I was about to say love train is literally wonder of u’s direct counter

[@alejandrocerezo8399]

All I though when heard the video was how Part 9 main villain will be someone who control both miracles and calamities and how Jodio will bypass it through November Rain final form's abilities, thus controlling his own destiny via "mechanisms". About the video, even if Love Train and Wonder of U cancel each other out, D4C is still a punching ghost stand, while the doctor is too passive, so good assessment.

[@eLite-Tiss91]

Cant wait for part 7 huh... Maybe do a video on What certain characters do get there stand and there Reflection on there Personality like Ermes and Kiss

[@mrredhatt]

I was watching a stand off marathon like 2 days ago. Big coincidence, but glad this came out

[@jaxwarp8373]

I recently found your channel, and love these videos. Im curious how you think a battle between the 2 gravity stands would go: Echoes Act 3's superior speed vrs C-moon's greater gravity control

[@hiropisku1078]

I'd argue that Wonder of U would win. While it does fall underneath "Logic", logic in the JoJo-verse supersedes miracles as we can see Johnny try to fight the Calamity (and fail). We can also see that Wonder of U exists as a constant in the universe, not belonging to Tohru as more a manifestation by him. Even if we ignore Araki's statements that this is the strongest villain, Go Beyond is a special case. It is less infinity and more the abstract of logic. One can understand the idea of infinity and even then Tusk Act 4's infinite spin is still limited and can be countered (as shown with Alternate Diego). However, Go Beyond is something that doesn't exist nor can be measured, the counter of logic being something that doesn't actually exist. With this in mind, if the miracles of the holy corpse and Johnny's abilities weren't enough to circumvent the calamity, I'd say Valentine would lose as he'd be fighting an uphill battle against a passive enemy - a force of nature that overpowers anything that isn't an equal or absolute force. Most likely, Valentine would just cause massive death on such a scale that he either gives up due to killing off America by proxy and karma or the Calamity is able to find a way to kill him through a seemingly harmless effect that Love Train does not consider to be positive or negative.

[@poopoocumweiner1422]

Praying everyday for all stands Jojolion

[@destroyerkitty9434]

I rewrite reality to make me impervious to undesirable outcomes VS I rewrite reality to make me impervious to undesirable outcomes.

[@Arhius]

I'm glad that I've found this video discussing this topic. When I was reading JoJolion and figuered out how Wonder of You works I realised that fight between those two top overpowered stands in JoJO would be a completely disaster to the rest of the World. Wonder of You would commence calamity towards Funny Valentine while D4C Love Train would redirecting all of calamity attacks towards random person on the world. It'll be a fight based on probability because I think that eventually one of that attacks would be redirected towards Tooru and that would be the end. However probably dozens of people or even most of the humanity would be dead becuase of that figh. Just something amazing thinking about it in the world of fiction - Araki is pure genius to make us use our mind to think about that!

[@whaledbeach4030]

Even though it’s a video about a fight between the two I love the talks about the balance of nature it’s really interesting stuff

[@jasonngo1966]

Idea: Beyond vs. Wonder of U. The power to bend fate vs. the power of unchanging calamity.

[@hueoan9492]

Realistically D4C and Love Train is a much more useful stand. D4C helps you freely travel between dimensions and causes any kind of crimes without any consequences at all while love train deflect all bad luck thus making you essentially immortal. WoU do helps you achieve some similar things but no where near as powerful

[@homeless24-7]

Couldn’t WOU or Tooru just kill or move Lucy? Seeing as there’s nothing Valentine can actually do to him without leaving Lovetrain (great video btw XD)

[@PrinceVegeta732.]

Lucys stand Ticket to ride has the same misfortune redirection

[@AnimeOppai]

Kinda hard, cuz... WoU can't use Calamities on someone, who's not pursuing him, if Tooru will try get to Lucy, Valentine can just attack him, but Calamities will not work on him.

[@sirjoesphjoestar8361]

@@AnimeOppai valentine has to leave LT to attack so he would get slammed by calamity

[@AnimeOppai]

@@sirjoesphjoestar8361 Rai without any LT grabbed WOU's neck. WOU's Calamity not even close so strong as you think.

[@homeless24-7]

@@AnimeOppaiand what happened to him straight afterwards? Did he actually hurt WOU?

[@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376]

It’s been a minute since the last episode a stand off! Lit!

[@dustgun3861]

4:30 Mechanism. Could this be the mechanism that Jodio speaks of?

[@Alastr0]

Truly missed this series

[@varenwilson1514]

THERES NO WAY, I just commented on a channel YESTERDAY wondering who would win in a fight between love train and wonder of u, and I was gonna comment on this channel about it too. And then voila there's this video today which was exactly what I was asking for

[@sebastianwillows]

Hey xForts! Just FYI, there's a minor typo in the video description: "Enrioc Pucci Battle BGM"

[@Goodman-Diego]

The good ol times of eoh and stand face off

[@blueberryelf1150]

I would love to see GER vs. Sift and Wet Go Beyond.

[@oneoddturtle]

Imagine if some random chain of calamity occurs where it ends with creating an infinite spin projectile that breaks through love train and kills valentine

[@jjsauce1]

Finally its back

[@user-qk4kg7xw8o]

Amazing Video! XD

[@rem7502]

time to rewatch all xforts standoffs

[@kodoqbesar4301]

Speaking about their powers, how well will their powers do against Yukari from Touhou? Yukari his the power to manipulate boundaries, including ridiculous things like fantasy and reality. She's one of the strongest characters in Gensokyo (alongside her fellow sages Kasen and Okina, Flandre, Reimu, Kanako, Suwako, Keiki, Eirin, and Yuuka) will she be too much of Tooru and Valentine?

[@tarisoala9717]

her power still has limits last time I checked

[@redboxgamingyt3452]

Depends if she's intending to pursue Tooru intentionally by using her powers. If so, Calamity strikes.

[@internetlurker1850]

I don't know why you're bringing this up in a JoJo, but wouldn't there be more fitting characters for this? For example, Reimu who has the ability to float, taking the path of least resistance as long as she is "floaty"(unaware, calm, uncaring, etc seem to count), whether that path be through gaps in bullets or through reality itself if that is what is in the way.

[@kodoqbesar4301]

@@internetlurker1850 I wanted to use Reimu but IMO her ability is way more vague than Yukari who has certain limits. Reimu being the MC and being unable to lose and float out of reality will make her stomp Tooru and Valentine

[@kodoqbesar4301]

@@redboxgamingyt3452 Can she just manipulate the boundary between calamity and order?

[@Howlinwolfclouds]

Let’s go!

[@jesusvaldez6951]

I will argue that Johnny did not died because of calamity. He was explicitly saying good bye to his son in his last moments. So Johnny knew that he could transfer the disease unto himself, and that is what he did. Also, George getting the disease wasn't really a coincidence. Just like the manga states: "So removing the disease carried the meaning of exchanging the disease for something of equivalent value", and for Johnny his son and wife had the same "value". Meaning that George was the only target the saint's corps could use.

[@V1_Ultrakiller]

Yeah, it wasn't Calamity, it was Equivalent Exchange

[@amine_nett75]

The new universe is insane for real for now steel bal run and jojolion was really mysterious...🔥🚀

[@UniGya]

Now I can't help but imagine every time some random impact does more damage than it should due to Wonder of U's ability some kid finds a quarter on the ground nearby to balance out the universe

[@Potatoesindisguise]

The fight will boil down to basically them standing and staring at each other, while the world around them goes to hell because of all the calamities getting redirected.

[@madeleinegamy7267]

You do know that love train lost to the infinite rotation right which was referred to as a calamity. And you do know it’s was stated that calamity is the strongest force in the jojo universe stated by the creator if I remember correctly. And wonder of u is calamity itself.

[@TroyTheCatFish]

New stand off just dropped

[@tommymolleda1798]

In my opinion WoU wouldn't affect Valentine as a misfortune directly, like it wouldn't be a direct attack that Love Train could redirect. It would be more like Valentine is dragged out the barrier because he tripped or something and then he could be hit by anything.

[@8thguy633]

Unstoppable force vs immovable object: the stand battle.

[@basicallychroma9926]

Great video because it’s exactly how I think it will go down. But Valentine could find a way to beat him just as he found a way to beat Johnny with DIEGO.

[@tomasdelcampo2]

Jojo has the coolest powers of anything ever by a mile

[@Gabe_read_manga]

Allright 👍

[@damianhd6344]

I’ve been waiting and I received

[@Golth1502]

SBR rocks, and is next in line for anime!

[@awakeningracewhen2432]

finally bro posted after 1 month

[@JOKAKAKA]

Oh my what year is it?

[@xForts]

2017

[@TroyTheCatFish]

@@xFortsholy shit

[@DogHeadset]

One thing that could happen, valentine send a tooru's clone, since the fact of two tooru exist is something that the reality don't let happen and make both merge with each other and annihilate both tooru, wonder of u couldn't do nothing, since is a mistake of reality and reality itself tries to fix it

[@gaspar_le_destructeur]

LES GOOOO STAND OFF IS BACK

[@kingpengu8895]

W vid+but for me wou wins+the author himself stated that wou is the strongest villain🤷‍♂️ and he is the energy itself+it’s honestly simple tusk annihilated d4c meanwhile calamity countered tusk

[@beastalchemistVA]

Nice!

[@NatVirgo]

Me-wow, is that the latest Felinor fashion?

[@ainsleygaming8547]

Has to be GER vs go beyond next surely and the debate of can you prevent an attack if it doesn’t exist

[@stuff9653]

This is why I love jojo

[@bonniesbitchin]

WHAT THE HECK STAND OFF WAS DEAD BEFORE I EVEN SUBSCRIBED AAAAH

[@icaruspit341]

Welcome back king 👑

[@magicanteater38]

If you’re still doing stand off, how about jail house rock vs California king bed. A battle of memory stands.

[@oddiunapologetic]

This gives me hope, that we might see a stand off between the milagro man & the lava rocks from part 9 jojolands😅

[@LucasF25]

But didn't Araki say that Tooru would probably defeat every other antagonist he's created so far, or am i mistaken? Cuz if he said that, odds are Love Train simply can't defend against the Wonder of U, as it's not really a "normal" calamity, y'know? I mean, at least i don't remember a mention od the gap existing in no dimmension, instead i remember it being a separate pocket dimmension (which if it's the case, i don't think WoU would have a problem affecting). I'm just saying that if Araki really did say that and i'm not tripping, then that's that, really.

[@The_true_Atlas]

Lovu train

[@dilgashhamed6691]

have you realised something in D4C LT and WOU, WOU controls the calamity aka the dark energy, D4C LT controls the light energy but not controls but manpulated the light, and not gonna lie with ya i think part 9 main vilain will have a stand that controls both light and dark energy

[@iminprisonhelp]

the thing is, love train Came from the corpse parts, so you could say JESUS HAD A STAND (although this can be contradicted)

[@TheOrian34]

Talking about mechanisms, I see what you did there.

[@vervetwrydavigy3006]

Before even watching the video, I have to say I just realized that WoU and D4C:Love Train are basically the exact opposite stands. One directs negative flow, while the other encases the user in positive flow. Wonder how you'll rationalize this, since in both cases they were defeated by literal infinity.

[@mechchococh.4313]

Miracle is basically positive coincident And Calamity is negative coincident Two clashes together, I assume the ability would likely be canceled Both losing their defensive ability, turning it into a stand-off of pure stand stat

[@wonderofu4534]

Well. This was something

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The world's most exiting stalemate.

[@novakperovic6806]

I think civil war vs limp biscuit would be a good idea

[@MalcolmGreen-zr1hz]

Instead of doing part eight all stands, he decides to make something that people already covered on