D850 v GFX 50S Landscape Photography Shoot Out - Which one is better?

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Ben Fewtrell

Ben Fewtrell

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@90boiler
@90boiler 5 жыл бұрын
Nikon iSO 64 is amazing, it's impressive how many details it keeps in shadows without loosing quality.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s a great camera
@lukykentucky
@lukykentucky 5 жыл бұрын
You use on the GFX a prime lens and on the D850 a zoom lens , if you would shot the D850 with a prime like the 35mm 1.4 g , you will have much better colour than with a zoom lens. The 45mm Fuji lens compared to the 24-70 Nikon is not fair
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s not fair to begin with the gfx will crush the Nikon anyway
@mutawi3i
@mutawi3i 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickfanzo the Gfx crushes ur wallet
@shanemiles9694
@shanemiles9694 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with any comparison test is that it is totally subjective and therefore is mostly personal preference that will tilt the balance one way or another. That and Brand loyalty blinds a lot of people too.
@JeffreyOakarPhotos
@JeffreyOakarPhotos 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort. I don't have either camera but when I look at your finished files, it just seems to me that you could attain what the Fuji is doing with some extra post production with the D850 file. The Nikon file doesn't have the contrast or punch that the Fuji file has....so why not boost it up? I see the difference, but I don't understand why you couldn't have done a little more with the Nikon file.
@thomaseriksson6256
@thomaseriksson6256 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the last stages to upgrade my Nikon F-system to D850 standard. Only the camera and a AFS 400mmF2.8 G VR lens left to get, both will be 2nd hand. In the future I will not switch to the Zed system but I'm thinking on starting with a Fuji GFX and some zooms for woodland and landscape. I currently use D800E and D700
@On3legs
@On3legs Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your upgrade path! The D850 is a fantastic camera, and I'm sure you'll love using it. It's interesting that you're considering the Fuji GFX for woodland and landscape photography. The larger sensor size can definitely offer some advantages in terms of image quality and dynamic range. I'd love to hear how you find it compares to your Nikon system once you get a chance to try it out. Best of luck with your new gear!
@thomaseriksson6256
@thomaseriksson6256 Жыл бұрын
@@On3legs Thank you for your feedback.It will take some time to upgrade my Nikon system first. I think I start with a GFX100S and 45-100mm lens. I would prefere a 35-100mm lens. I often use (24) 27-90mm for woodland and up to 200mm for landscape. So the 100-200mm is on my map too. The problem is that I need a 20-35mm lens too.
@derekmidgley
@derekmidgley 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben for trying to compare them. Any comparison will probably be controversial. I'm not choosing sides because both are surely awesome cameras and systems. But I'll make two observations: 06:38 you shot both at ISO100. But to maximise dynamic range on both systems one must shoot at base ISO on each which would be ISO64 on Nikon and ISO100 on the Fuji. Also the equivalent aperture would need to be different. If you're going to shoot the Fuji at F18 the full frame equivalent (i.e. to yield an equivalent depth of field) will be approx. F14. I think the factor is 0.79 i.e. same factor you applied to achieve an equivalent focal length. Bet you came away with some stunning shots from each system!
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek. I have taken thousands of images with dozens of cameras and my experience is going to be more of an indication than anything scientific. My comparison certainly wasn't technical. In my opinion from years of experience The GFX does a better job at handling light and colour. Cheers and thanks for stopping by to comment.
@ahmedrashed78
@ahmedrashed78 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree on both observations from a technical POV however from a practical POV iso 64 won't yield a drastic DR improvement over iso 100 same for f14 vs f18, the comparison is still valid
@meme4one
@meme4one 5 жыл бұрын
Dof doesn't change because a sensor is a different size, only when you chance focal length to try and get a like for like fov does Dof alter on the same aperture. Also you have different lenses. Light transmission is different between the two. Very hard to make a real comparison for camera, only system to system.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I have taken thousands of images with dozens of cameras and my experience is going to be more of an indication that anything scientific. My comparison certainly wasn't technical. In my opinion from years of experience The GFX does a better job at handling light and colour. Cheers and thanks for stopping by to comment.
@meme4one
@meme4one 5 жыл бұрын
@@On3legs I totally appreciate that. You're comparing what you have in your hands, two different but excellent systems. I'd struggle to choose between them but luckily? I'm not in a position to buy either lol. Interesting video. I think your views are in line with the design and expected use of those cameras. MF suck for quick focusing or fast fps, but they excel at what they are designed for, beautiful images of landscapes and portraits.
@ab-cx6bd
@ab-cx6bd 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! Really enjoyed the scenery and explanations. That GFX is one hell of a system at the particular price point.
@On3legs
@On3legs 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@photografiaaustralis2131
@photografiaaustralis2131 5 жыл бұрын
"Crispier" files, better dynamic range by at least 1.5 -2 stops and when enlarged to a stupendous level the devil is found in those tiny details that seemingly don't fall apart or become fuzzy as you find in full frame cameras. I think that is what holds the image together visually along with the larger sensor/less magnification required. The great Fuji glass goes along way in producing stunning color rendition and image fidelity unrivaled by its competitors. Now Ben, how do you explain this absolute necessity for a new GFX to the boss? I think the rangefinder would suit landscapers better, and.....it might save a marriage or two in the process. Greg.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I am super impressed with the GFX and happen to have the 50R in my hands at the moment. Stay tuned for more vids
@azadpeymaparham
@azadpeymaparham 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, crop factor also impacts on the aperture as well. So a fair comparison would be f18 on Nikon D850 and something like f13 (or maybe 1/3 step higher) on Fuji. Plus ISO on both cameras should be the same, not to mention the shots should be taken at same the exact time (as you’d appreciate light quality changes all the time) and angle for a fair comparison. :)
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I have taken thousands of images with dozens of cameras and my experience is going to be more of an indication that anything scientific. My comparison certainly wasn't technical. In my opinion from years of experience The GFX does a better job at handling light and colour. Cheers and thanks for stopping by to comment.
@azadpeymaparham
@azadpeymaparham 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Thompson yes you’re absolutely right. My bad!
@azadpeymaparham
@azadpeymaparham 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Fewtrell love your videos. Great stuff... But say great thinks about Nikon ;)
@Photomeike
@Photomeike 5 жыл бұрын
A medium format sensor "outperforms" the smaller full frame sensor. You don't say... Nice images though.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
thanks! I appreciate you stopping by to comment
@szmulek
@szmulek 4 жыл бұрын
you mean super 35mm sensor
@Byhythloh
@Byhythloh 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus. I always wonder why my landscape shots just don't have that punch. Then I see the kind of incredible sunsets you get at other places around the world. Why cant I get sunsets that look so amazing...
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chad! We're pretty lucky here (most of the time)
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 5 жыл бұрын
I much preferred the GFX image, but did you process them different? Colors are different/better.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I processed them differently but with similar adjustments. The GFX file was easier to work with.
@WayneSmithT41
@WayneSmithT41 5 жыл бұрын
Always good to see the field comparisons. What's the colour profile on each? adobeRGB? I'm currently shooting D810 and love it but looking to improve. Unfortunately some commenters are only targeting web based clients and wouldn't benefit from either camera system. Thanks for the great review and honest comments. I agree with the ones who would choose the lowest ISO and a max f/stop of 11 or so.
@edcoronel9671
@edcoronel9671 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, it is really controversial to compare these two systems which is not exactly an apple-to-apple comparison, ie., a full frame dslr vs a medium format camera. Given the known specs and advantages of a medium format , it is not be surprising to know that there are more resolution covered in the gfx. It is good to see that you've done some good effort to compare how the D850 stands againts a medium format. I see both systems as the best cameras or bad guys as you said, in their respective areas of intended use. Thanks for this post. It is very informative.
@BackFocus11
@BackFocus11 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Ben! Thank you for this video. What matters to photographers is the final image result, not specs, tests etc... you do a great job measuring “real world” performance. Your images make me want to visit Australia. :-)
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate your support! You should certainly head down under... we have a lot of great places to visit!
@redoleary6705
@redoleary6705 5 жыл бұрын
Having just switched to the gfx50r from D750 I'm happy to see this comparison and even happier I chose the fuji rather than upgrading to the D850. Well done, beautiful shots too. Thanks.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
thanks Red. Its a great camera
@WatchmanNiel
@WatchmanNiel 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I missed something about your approach, but aren’t you going to experience severe diffraction at F18?
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Niel Lambrechts did you see severe diffraction?
@WatchmanNiel
@WatchmanNiel 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Fewtrell Did you post your raw files?
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, but there was not 'severe diffraction'. It would not matter what I did, there would be someone that said it wasn't exact enough. Hope you enjoyed my efforts and thanks for stopping by with your comments. Cheers, Ben
@WatchmanNiel
@WatchmanNiel 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Fewtrell I enjoyed your comparison, but I also quite enjoy the fact that many commenters here are able to critique your methodology in a respectful manner - this way, we can all keep learning and refining. The fact is, the visible diffraction point of the D850 in FF mode is around f/9.0, so if you took another photo at f/8.0 and compared it side by side with the one at f18 (an unusual aperture) you are bound to discover a meaningful improvement in sharpness that you can incorporate in your workflow. I have no intention to discredit you, or the beauty that you captured, but in my view this is a valid criticism given that a key objective is to compare the IQ.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
@@WatchmanNiel thanks! As I said, it's hard to do what I feel is a comparison and satisfy everyones needs or beliefs. I am also happy everyone can have their say, that's what I intended when starting the channel. But I think a lot of people make claims or comment about technical info without a real understanding. I do not notice a huge difference between f8 and f18 with the D850/24-70mm combo. Maybe if you're pixel peeping you would see it, but i feel in the real world, no one gets up that close to your image to warrant worrying about diffraction. I shoot many of my images above f11. What is 'unusual' for one may not be for another, f18 is not 'unusual' for me, I will use it when i need to.
@stanleywall9196
@stanleywall9196 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew & Ben ... The greatest 2 .... hello Andrew ... Hello Ben ... thank you guys, you both made me better photographer
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stanley!
@VadimOm
@VadimOm 5 жыл бұрын
bad comparison, you can shoot crop camera in theese conditions, but whats obvious o me personaly is that 24-70 does not match up, you should use a good prime lens, because they are really different. You can clearly see all kinds of optic problems on 24-70, 0 contrast, some flaring and ghosting type of things. But i might be you processing, personal preference, but hdr is too flat.
@SteveHedgesPhotography
@SteveHedgesPhotography 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, although I've been a die-hard Nikon users for years, the GFX looks awesome.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I am a die hard photography fan. Love both cameras
@SSchithFoo
@SSchithFoo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@On3legs
@On3legs 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@iamwhatiam6281
@iamwhatiam6281 5 жыл бұрын
speaking about colours, fuji is a canon medium format. I think they have to adjust their colour rendition. obviously like in lcd panels, someone could like samsung or, in camera market, over saturated canon skies greens etc the raw is a processed oncamera file. the sensor in many cameras is the same but raw files are different and impossible to make identical in camera raw. obviously fuji will be better but we can’t compare fx to dx to medium format etc (too different size sensors). we need the same engine to compare properly the engines. photosites are a relevant parameter but they are a design choice to be done inside the dimensions of the sensor. so we can compare two different sensor even if the photosites are different. fuji gfx is medium format, but a little medium format compared to phaseone (in canon fx vs sony/nikon fc there are less differences in sensor size). for example we have fo compare d810 vs d850. the comparision vs fuji medium format make sense just to show the differences between a medium format and a full frame. different categories
@colinstalker
@colinstalker 5 жыл бұрын
Coming from a Nikon owner the Fuji is very impressive Ben. I can see why it's growing on you. Good to see you guys had some nice light as well. 👍
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. It is nice. the GFX 50R is even nicer... stay tuned
@shaanherbert7172
@shaanherbert7172 5 жыл бұрын
That raw file looks really good if not slightly magenta. A lot nicer than the d850 though. Great review however I was borderline for buying the gfx50s before I got my d850. But now I wished I had.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I hear ya!
@hanss9239
@hanss9239 5 жыл бұрын
I like the D850 colors so much better.
@DennisDinges
@DennisDinges 5 жыл бұрын
The 1st picture showed a markedly nicer appearance on the Fuji. And on the second I noticed more light gathering on the Fuji
@nightscapeimages.richard
@nightscapeimages.richard 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you catching up with Andrew in this one Ben .. .great job.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Simon_PieMan
@Simon_PieMan 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m tempted cause I like gadgets but can I really justify the cost.....???
@stefannikoloff1860
@stefannikoloff1860 5 жыл бұрын
Nice location, beautiful! I agree with you on the GFX/D850, what do you think of the 4:3 ratio? Also have you tried capture one?
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I really am enjoying the 4:3 ratio and all of these images were processed in C1. Cheers, Ben
@oldgrumpyjim5003
@oldgrumpyjim5003 5 жыл бұрын
Hope me is the first!! I am still recovering from having the GFX for a day mind you I was comparing it to a D810 and it was miles apart. In fact my X-T2 did better in results. The GFX straight out the camera is brilliant and also for me easier to use without all the bells and whistles of the D810/850. Imagine if eventually Fuji was able to put the full frame advantages Fast AF eyedetect and stuff into the gfx at its current price. What would that do to the Full Frame market?? makes you think! Gorgeous image from the gfx Ben as expected.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim. I am impressed with the quality I am getting from the GFX v the D850. If they were to hit the FF market they would do well I think, but it is crowded and the medium format at this price is a clever game, considering its an older sensor that has already paid for itself.
@antoninkriz7132
@antoninkriz7132 5 жыл бұрын
I am just curious, what kind of better results X-T2 vs D810 are you talking about?
@oldgrumpyjim5003
@oldgrumpyjim5003 5 жыл бұрын
@@antoninkriz7132 It was strange. I printed at 36X24 Landscapes West of Scotland and the IQ of the X-T2 was more pleasing although lacking the detail of the GFX. All three had very basic edits but I couldn't get the D810 image to match the results from the other two. The X-T2 image was dng converted by Iridient Xtrans but the D810 by Adobe ACR. THAT might be the reason I don't know but Lightroom just now is not good at dng conversion whereas Iridient is still the best for Fuji. I'm not dissing the D810 as it is far better other in ways but image quality is hard to beat just now with Fuji, even the APS-C which we now know is not equal across camera makes. just my experience to date.
@bmkq2007
@bmkq2007 5 жыл бұрын
First of all thanks for the effort and sharing this comparison. Just little insightful info or tip, I believe that aperture comparison is not accurate, what I mean is the equivalency of the f stops between medium format and ff is not the same and to get Sharper images you have to take into consideration the sweet spot of the lens itself
@bmkq2007
@bmkq2007 5 жыл бұрын
Other than that I do agree with you mate on the rest. Pleasing info
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have taken thousands of images with dozens of cameras and my experience is going to be more of an indication than anything scientific. My comparison certainly wasn't technical. In my opinion from years of experience is that The GFX does a better job at handling light and colour. Cheers and thanks for stopping by to comment.
@bmkq2007
@bmkq2007 5 жыл бұрын
@@On3legs I have no doubt about that. Well hope you continue enjoying the GFX as it is a gorgeous tool
@mutawi3i
@mutawi3i 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, as a D850 owner. I must confess that that Fuji is blowing the D850 out if the water.
@saschafirst
@saschafirst 5 жыл бұрын
How can You compare the last two images??? Everyone can see that the clouds changes a lot and that the lights are so different.
@damiancouzoff2925
@damiancouzoff2925 4 жыл бұрын
At f18 it will be okay for the Fuji gfx 50,as it has a medium format sensor. However,the Nikon d850 at f18 will suffer from diffraction as it has a smaller full frame sensor.
@radfordphoto
@radfordphoto 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Ben,. In the end it's all about the print not the techy bits and I'm sure the Fuji would be the winner. Regardless, there are no real bad cameras today, just some better than others.
@kjellgolsen8521
@kjellgolsen8521 5 жыл бұрын
Using zoomlense on nikon and primelens on Fuji makes it difficult to compare. Primelenses are almost all the time better then zoomlenses..
@theosphilusthistler712
@theosphilusthistler712 5 жыл бұрын
3:40 - well there goes your comparison from the start. No need to watch further. With both at f18 the Nikon is going to have more depth of field and probably quite noticeable diffraction. Somewhere round f11 on the Nikon would have given a more equivalent comparison.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, no noticeable diffraction and focus was on the tree. It wouldn't matter what I did, there would be someone that said it wasn't exact enough. Hope you enjoyed my efforts and thanks for stopping by with your opinion. Cheers, Ben
@theosphilusthistler712
@theosphilusthistler712 5 жыл бұрын
Diffraction limiting aperture for the D850 is about f7.4 and for the Fuji about f11. Diffraction is defeating sharpness gains from stopping down whether it's noticeable or not. Your problem is that you can't take the same shot with the same settings on both cameras, something is always going to be different because the physics is different. The more useful comparison would be to try to take the best possible shot with each regardless of the setting being different. Of course you're right that if you did that you would still get criticised.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
@@theosphilusthistler712 well, I think I did my best to take a shot on each and compare it. But no matter what, I cannot satisfy everyones needs with my non technical approach. Cheers, Ben
@jamiecoburn1231
@jamiecoburn1231 5 жыл бұрын
@@On3legs Agreed. This is pixel peeper nonsense. The D850 images clearly have no visible diffraction. Even if it did that would not explain the GFX's massive gain in dynamic range and color fidelity. A prime lens wouldn't have made a pinch of difference either...I own every 35 Nikon has ever made . I have been shooting Nikon for 45 years 23 as a professional and I saw precisely what can be expected from a nikon body and glass. Not in the same realm as is the GFX.
@philbrown8181
@philbrown8181 5 жыл бұрын
Except if he did that people would complain that he used different exposure times, with the longer being better for saturation favouring the Fuji. So in fairness to Ben, he couldn't win.
@oneeyedphotographer
@oneeyedphotographer 5 жыл бұрын
Colour. I used to shoot film. I didn't particularly like Fujifilm colours, to my eye they seemed over saturated. Looks like this is similar. Compare your APS-C Fuji too. I have an XT-10, but I mostly head for black and white.
@ggclawyer
@ggclawyer 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair you must use iso 64 on d850 and a prime Lens instead of zoom like the Zeiss 35 f2 zf.2
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I have taken thousands of images with dozens of cameras and my experience is going to be more of an indication that anything scientific. My comparison certainly wasn't technical. In my opinion from years of experience The GFX does a better job at handling light and colour. Cheers and thanks for stopping by to comment.
@VinhNguyen-uw2vh
@VinhNguyen-uw2vh 5 жыл бұрын
I had tested, and could not tell the difference between Nikon D850 + Zeiss milvus (15, 21, 25) and GFX50s with native GFX lenses. And with RAW power of Nikon I could manipulate to make the images from Nikon much better
@GiovanniApreaCapri
@GiovanniApreaCapri 5 жыл бұрын
And maybe not shooting f18...
@jamiecoburn1231
@jamiecoburn1231 5 жыл бұрын
@@VinhNguyen-uw2vh I do not own the Milvus lenses, but I do own both 55 and 85mm Otus and I agree the Nikon is on par in sharpness. Sharpness is one tiny aspect of photography. Where the Nikon falls way (WAY) short is in dynamic range, color saturation, and (not discussed here) tonality, and shadow fidelity. You cant add dynamic range, saturation, tonality, or just add detail to the shadows to what weren't there in the first place....Unless you are talking about getting silly in Photoshop?
@VinhNguyen-uw2vh
@VinhNguyen-uw2vh 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamiecoburn1231 I completely agree with you, D850 is not on par with REAL medium like PhaseOne IQ3 50mp, which I used in my studio, regarding tonal range, color saturation... But Fuji GFX 50s is a different story.
@gregoryhamilton6161
@gregoryhamilton6161 5 жыл бұрын
fuji prime against the zoom which is known to be not overly sharp, just a good workhorse lens, bit of a waste of time comparison old mate
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback old mate...
@AndrewDawes
@AndrewDawes 5 жыл бұрын
see you say that the Fuji is better... but they are truly both amazing cameras coming from my point of view haha. I was genuinely surprised by the vibrancy in the red channel just on the LCD of the GFX and I think you've done a great comparison in what was quickly changing light! A fun morning, and poor occy. Great light and great company mate.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. They're both tops and you wouldn't go wrong with either. Thanks for contributing some B Roll!
@tallaganda83
@tallaganda83 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see this comparison with a Z7 with a Z prime. By all accounts very few of the Nikon zooms can actually resolve the full 45 megapixels of the d850
@marieta.s
@marieta.s 5 жыл бұрын
If only I could afford any of them! I’d be so happy.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
GOALS!
@marieta.s
@marieta.s 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Fewtrell 👍🏻
@jukeboxjohnnie
@jukeboxjohnnie 5 жыл бұрын
Ken Rockwell has a page about how to afford anything. Ie don’t eat out, don’t go on holiday, smoke or drink, keep your old car, walk places etc.. I’ve got two GFX50s cameras because I restrict what I do in other areas. I know your circumstances may not allow this approach
@marieta.s
@marieta.s 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Pearson with some planning I suppose I could do it. Maybe it would take me longer to get them but certainly I could. So far though, I do not consider myself an expert photographer to justify such a purchase. I am an enthusiast as many people call it these days and I am trying to learn as much as possible before one day I replace my D5500 with another more decent camera. I think this will give me more time to try to save for a better camera in the future. Thanks for your comment though.
@agylub
@agylub 3 жыл бұрын
But the size of the Nikon lens and flash availability completely torpedoes Fuji. Comparing colour is meaningless as post processing is the digital domain. It’s like plugging a guitar into two different amps and saying they sound different.
@ahmedrashed78
@ahmedrashed78 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, what tripod are you using? :)
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I use the Really Right Stuff TVC 33
@jimwlouavl
@jimwlouavl 3 жыл бұрын
The Fujifilm medium format cameras seem like fantastic cameras. The price is prohibitive for me, though.
@On3legs
@On3legs 3 жыл бұрын
Agree Jim! They are both fantastic but out of reach for many
@haydennettleton3272
@haydennettleton3272 3 жыл бұрын
Fujifilm Gfx 50r is actually cheaper than the Canon R5 here by about 1.5k and about the same price as a Z7ii. if you only shoot landscapes or studio and are considering upgrading to mirrorless from a high resolution dslr like the d850 or Canon 5dsr then the gfx system is the best and cheapest option.
@craigpope308
@craigpope308 5 жыл бұрын
That pesky blue Octopus has surfaced again Ben, the little bugger sure gets around for such a small guy, haha. Fuji's GFX cameras are becoming more tempting the more I watch reviews on them, turning out to an expensive GAS lust, must fight it! Cheers Ben.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Craig. I am afraid it is Occy's last appearance. After this shoot he has gone missing!
@craigpope308
@craigpope308 5 жыл бұрын
@@On3legs Andrew Dawes is a vegetarian but maybe he has a taste for seafood, better check his camera bag!
@roybixby6135
@roybixby6135 5 жыл бұрын
I think you needed to colour balance (color checker)
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I use a spyder...
@ralfjansen9118
@ralfjansen9118 5 жыл бұрын
He means white balance (camera side), not monitor calibration... Both cameras obviously handle the red of the morning sun quite different (over-correcting?), and that makes a much bigger difference than the different dynamic range ever could do.
@lucentpixels3606
@lucentpixels3606 5 жыл бұрын
How do you get to that location?
@matssandquist9258
@matssandquist9258 5 жыл бұрын
I took a look at the prices for the two systems here in Sweden and it's a whopping 2890 AUD difference and that doesn't include the lenses. So Ben, is the GFX 2890 AUD better? Is there any way I can persude "my boss" that or do I have to sell my bike? :-)
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's the law of diminishing returns in action. Depends on what you shoot. If you're looking for something unique or different maybe it is worth it. You'll have to sell your bike, I have nothing when it comes to convincing the boss ha ha
@hanss9239
@hanss9239 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the color from the Nikon better. Great test tho.
@astrodysseus
@astrodysseus 3 жыл бұрын
7:57: the depth of the shadows in the 50S look much better than the D850 and when zoomed in, the 50S shows also a lot more details in the branches. HOWEVER :) with the same D850, I take 2 different lenses and.. I could get the exact same difference. That's actually the same reproach I have to do with dp review, where the fuji looks so much better than the D850... but (obviously) not the same lens.. so what you are looking at is not so much the difference between camera than the difference between (camera + lens). What you got out of the D850 is what I would got out of a 14-24 f2.8... But if I was taking the same shot with let's say, a N28 f1.4 stopped down at f2 or f2.8... you would be amazed at the difference. It affects everything, from color rendition, depth of luminance, sharpness etc. IMO to judge the camera difference, you would need to use the same lens with an adapter (no glass, just to change the backfocus distance); ideally medium lens adapted on FF, but even the opposite could be interesting, as long as you just look to the center. Anyhow, those were my 2 cents; I do expect the 50S to be better than D850, but mostly in the depth (spread) of the histogram, not so much in details or sharpness.
@dennissteul5445
@dennissteul5445 5 жыл бұрын
What are ya doing to me Ben. I just purchased the Nikon D850 two days ago. Scream!!! Just kidding. Enjoyed the comparison and I agree. There will always be something better if you have an unlimited budget. Cost of the GFX 50S and glass. Ouch!
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate... the D850 is amazing! You'll be fine when you get back on your feet. Cheers, Ben
@barrycohen311
@barrycohen311 5 жыл бұрын
Two epic cameras, only an idiot would argue otherwise. I want both of them. I shoot Fuji X but I am now looking for a used D810 to compliment the Fuji system.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! The D810 is mighty fine too
@shanemiles9694
@shanemiles9694 5 жыл бұрын
I shoot Fuji and Nikon along with other brands and can honestly say that they are the two brands I reach for over the others, but that is my personal preference and others will undoubtedly disagree, to each their own I say.
@SD_Alias
@SD_Alias 4 жыл бұрын
Do not forget, when opening a RAW-file in an raweditor you do not see the RAW-file but just an interpretation of it…
@dmitry.sh.8946
@dmitry.sh.8946 3 жыл бұрын
The best for comparison would be the Z7 ..... Nikon's new optics are of a different optical quality, the mirror is older, not the same.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 5 жыл бұрын
If you print into standard sizes like 8X10, 11X14, 16X20, 20X24, etc the D850 will crop into those 45 megapixels and turn into something like 36 while the GFX is already into ideal format and you will get all the 50 megapixels of the medium format sensor and it won't even be close to the same resolution. That being said you can print gallery prints out of either camera.
@truthkeeperfilms
@truthkeeperfilms 5 жыл бұрын
D850 better ISO performance, dynamic range, color depth and has more features, higher quality made by Nikon who has made full frame for a long time. You get medium format quality in a full frame. Nikon blows it out of the water. Fuji is a studio camera, the Nikon is everything into one body.
@zollieuncle9647
@zollieuncle9647 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt, Fuji lenses are superior to fairly dated Nikon DSLR lenses, but comparing a recent prime to a good old zoom is not fair. I am surprised that the Nikon shot came out that well. Colors are very subjective, only you can tell which one was closer to reality, or your preference. Nevertheless, for landscapes , the GFX system is very hard to beat. I have a D850, it is still a very capable body, but got to admit the GFX system - especially considering the 100S body is better for landscapes. I hope one day I can also afford it. :-)
@On3legs
@On3legs 3 жыл бұрын
me too! Saving my $$$
@thomasbraunstorfinger
@thomasbraunstorfinger 4 жыл бұрын
The histrograms on the camera refer to JPGs, so no chance to judge the DR of the sensors...
@MrHookshanks
@MrHookshanks 5 жыл бұрын
Good try Ben, you are just talking your way into changing systems! I didn't know the 24-70mm had F18?? Not a fair crack.
@bobswezey7452
@bobswezey7452 5 жыл бұрын
Fuji color pops both cameras work well nice tree images there Ben we enjoyed your video …
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob!
@NarroginRick
@NarroginRick 5 жыл бұрын
Hey thought we were going to see you run Ben :)
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
I edited that out.. some things are painful to watch
@oneeyedphotographer
@oneeyedphotographer 5 жыл бұрын
Lenses. Is the Fujifilm sensor 44x33mm? Adjust below if necessary. Print the Nikon image 36x18 inches. Do the same with a 5DsR if you can find one. Print the Fuji 44x33 inches. Then compare.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 5 жыл бұрын
I think that tree is dead 😟 Time to chop it down and plant a new one 🌴
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
ha ha... Noooooo
@carerra911
@carerra911 5 жыл бұрын
F18? worst interpolation
@KadraoScene
@KadraoScene 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't used any of the two cameras, and even though obviously MF camera will prove to be somewhat superior in some aspects I can tell you straight away that your comparison is flawed. It really makes no point saying "my comparison certainly wasn't technical" as that only means "this is my opinion and not the facts", and you know what they say about opinions :) This needs to be redone, and redone right.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Feel free to get these two cameras and do a better comparison than I have done Boris. Cheers, Ben.
@KadraoScene
@KadraoScene 5 жыл бұрын
@@On3legs If i get my hands on both i will and share my results with you! Maybe in the end the conclusion will be the same as yours :)
@hanss9239
@hanss9239 5 жыл бұрын
@@KadraoScene where you able to do it?
@KadraoScene
@KadraoScene 5 жыл бұрын
@@hanss9239 Unfortunately no, not yet. GFX 50S is quite hard to come by here :(
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
Now get the gfx 100s
@tedtedsen269
@tedtedsen269 4 жыл бұрын
the Fuji gfx 100 tiff 32bit files= 600mg
@KrunoslavStifter
@KrunoslavStifter 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. I have an intense dislike towards the compression youtube applies to these videos. Micro-blocking eats the soul of these videos, but not before it sodomizes it.
@charlesludwig9173
@charlesludwig9173 5 жыл бұрын
I want equipment that supports getting the job done quickly while helping me to produce dazzling images too. I shoot real estate mostly, and most of that is for MLS so 24 megapixels from a Nikon D7100 is more than adequate for detailed images and speedy workflow; but, I've gotta tell ya, if more megapixels would deliver more noticeable sparkle, as well as faster workflow, I think the Nikon D850 would be more adaptable my deverse daily needs than the fugi. sterlingimagesphotography.com
@The7dioses
@The7dioses 4 жыл бұрын
Every single youtuber comparing the d850 to a medium format camera, uses a shit lens on the d850. Fucken hilarious.
@antonoat
@antonoat 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't a clue why you are shooting at F18 on the D850, surely you realise you are killing the resolution of the lens, you will not be anywhere near getting the best detail in your images.
@eccentricsmithy2746
@eccentricsmithy2746 5 жыл бұрын
I own both systems. GFX all day long. I am about to sell my D850
@crs1flo
@crs1flo 5 жыл бұрын
The most stupid comparison that i ever seen. WB not the same. And what about F18?! Did you heard about diffraction? With D850 you can see it starting with f8 or f9 and up.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry for being stupid....
@NuanDaa
@NuanDaa 5 жыл бұрын
15 years ago was canon vs nikon. 15 years later will fuji vs sony.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Or maybe a new player.
@jukeboxjohnnie
@jukeboxjohnnie 5 жыл бұрын
You got to be kidding Sony will likely leave the market when profits aren’t there they have a history of opportunism
@stevemckenzie4731
@stevemckenzie4731 5 жыл бұрын
A genuine first world issue ... D850 or GFX? Neither of these cameras is going to make anyone a better photographer.
@On3legs
@On3legs 5 жыл бұрын
Getting a new camera usually makes people more motivated to get out and shoot more, so any new camera will make you a better photographer! thanks for stopping by to comment. Cheers, Ben
@stevemckenzie4731
@stevemckenzie4731 5 жыл бұрын
... and a new car may make people want to get out and drive more but doing so doesn't necessarily make them a better driver! My point is that any full frame or crop sensor camera is more than capable of meeting the needs of most photographers; particulalry those (i.e. most) who ony post their images to social media.@@On3legs
@stevemckenzie4731
@stevemckenzie4731 5 жыл бұрын
@Ben Fewtrell BTW, let me know when you're on the Central Coast (or in Newcastle) next. Would love to catch up for a shoot! Have you shot North Avoca or the Skillion lately?
@danielemilazzo432
@danielemilazzo432 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. But I think Ben is a gear head.
@nikhilatyoutube
@nikhilatyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know who is the real winner here, sony....... Because both cameras has sony sensor n they got their money........
@stevemckenzie4731
@stevemckenzie4731 5 жыл бұрын
I keep telling Ben you can't beat those Sony sensors ...
@nikhilatyoutube
@nikhilatyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevemckenzie4731 both are sony sensors......actually its funny......
@laneeric
@laneeric 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad SONY GUI SUCKS!!
@richardbierman9856
@richardbierman9856 5 жыл бұрын
The sensor in the Nikon d850 is not made by Sony, it's made by towergate.
@nikhilatyoutube
@nikhilatyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardbierman9856 even if they had internet, people like you doesn't even use it. see the links asshole nikonrumors.com/2018/06/15/new-reports-indicate-that-the-nikon-d850-sensor-imx309aqj-is-made-by-sony.aspx/ www.divephotoguide.com/underwater-photography-scuba-ocean-news/shock-report-nikon-d850-sensor-made-sony/ petapixel.com/2018/06/15/the-nikon-d850s-sensor-is-made-by-sony-report/ www.dpreview.com/news/1234108119/nikon-d850-sensor-confirmed-as-sony-made
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