Will Autel STOP WORKING after subscription ends? Will my Scan Tool WORK WITHOUT a SUBSCRIPTION?

[@motosmart3032]

Thanks for this, my workshop use the same scanner and i have been thinking if i won't be getting good value after my subscription expires.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You're welcome. Still very valuable my brother.

[@iam1smiley1]

Seems better to wait a few year's and buy another scan tool, unless you need to do new stuff all the time and need to access gateways.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I agree! Autel pricing plans for updates are not the cheapest. That said, here's the cheapest way I found to renew. Summer or Black Friday kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZPVe5pjgLVqkKc

[@bunsengonzalez254]

@@DIYAutoworksNG

[@btcsys]

I have an Autel MX808. Subscription expired 18 months ago. Still works like a charm

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Good to know!

[@bradleyaldaz8710]

Do the bi directional functions still work aswell? Even after subscription ends?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yes. Except for the limitations I noted with some Fiat Chrysler automobiles from 2018.

[@btcsys]

@@bradleyaldaz8710 on mine, I just renewed my mx808 subscription but I'm sure a year from now the bi directional features will still be working. The difference will be, any updates on vehicles after my year is up will not be installed

[@lexpen9016]

Mx808 is a cheap basic scanner. They require current subscriptions to code pcms and modules on the pro level scanners.

[@TheFanman773]

AUTEL is an unethical company that takes advantage of its consumers. I acquired a maxisys pro in 2015 and had no reason to upgrade its software because it was compatible with all of my vehicles. A free update released an application that works like ransomware and installs a timer that prevents you from accessing the diagnostic part of the tool. Now, all I get is a “Software is not authorized!” message when I try to use the diagnostic part of my tool The only available option is to purchase an upgrade from Autel for $1400.00. Product knotting is illegal in the United States, and this corporation should be severely punished for what they're doing to their customers in order to create cash flow due to the recent lawsuit Autel settled.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

This problem is well reported and may not need purchasing a subscription to fix. Go to this page www.autel.com/faqs.jhtml you will see it as a frequently asked question as well as Autel's solution for it. Hope this helps. Do let me know if this solves your problem.

[@Nickvjr]

This is not the case with my AUTEL MS906BT Scanner which had a subscription until 04-01-22 and continued to work properly until today 05-16-22 (45 days after the end of the subscription). Now the scanner will NOT scan any vehicle or show individual modules or functions which makes the scanner useless. Subscription renewal is $800+ for another year which I do not need because I work on vehicles 4-5+ years old. Buyer beware that AUTEL will brick your scanner if you do not continue to purchase their software yearly regardless if you needed the newer years or not. AUTEL is very disappointing.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Did you make a backup? If you did you could restore

[@joedejesus5898]

My MP808TS is useless once sub expired. It reads vin. But says expired abort retry Basically useless product. I regret buying it

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Did you make a backup? Mine didn't have this issue at all for the 1yr plus I didn't have a subscription. Was it a FCA car? So you can't scan cars or do stuff?

[@joedejesus5898]

@@DIYAutoworksNG i am not sure how to revert from backup. It detects 2018 jeep grand cherokee i scanned before, now it detects vehicle but i cannot scan or read codes, it says expired try again

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I see. The issue is with the fact that it's a 2018 FCA car. Exactly as I explained in the video. I believe not being able to scan the 2018 jeep is because it has the secure gateway module. That's something FCA implemented after suffering a hack. Unfortunately, it's one of things that won't work without a subscription and I don't think it's just an Autel thing, but could be wrong. This is why scanners often state they are FCA auto auth compliant.

[@garyelder6799]

Thanks for this review. It was very helpful as I'm considering an 808S-TS purchase for my current vehicles and don't plan to continue with the subscription service once it runs out.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jaygames1980]

My DS808 still going strong and just updated it after subscription ended two years ago.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

It's strange that some viewers are having different experiences. Maybe Autel changed something in the recent versions? I'll check my MK808Z-BT, it's out of subscription.

[@TigredelMar77]

For those kind of prices they better not stop the device to work, great vid!

[@mrmotofy]

Need to report Autel to the FTC or FBI for Illegal contract violations, stripping basic functions, extortion, bricking devices

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Please do. Good to take one for the team.

[@jameswan670]

So basically, all excited functions will be able to use same as before expiration? Coding function also will stay same as before?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yep. For this tool. Only exceptions are models that support online programming e.g. MK908P, and certain functions in cars like >2018 Jeep.

[@indyguy2899]

Great video. New Autel user here. Thanks.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks! Welcome😀

[@cristalak]

The cost for subscription is almost buying a new machine

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yea. The unfortunate reality of owning any competent scanner from a manufacturer that publishes updates frequently...

[@dl87z28]

Funny, then why is it every single time my sub expires within a couple months it stops working. Either it will not ID a car or the Bluetooth stops working. As soon as I buy the update like magic it works perfect. This has happened 3 times with 2 different units.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Not sure why you experienced this. But if you had a backup you could restore the device without needing to pay a subscription (that's if you didn't plan to). I did a video on backups/restoration. See below. Currently, I have my backup in 2 different places. Lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYCrcpd8Z7iKh5o

[@flrichierich]

Same thing is happening too me now it took away my Chevrolet is no longer in the selection for usa vehicles smh

[@AaronsTalks]

Oh this is great! Thank you :) I thought you need active subscription to use it at all! I'm very happy to see this. Cos I will probably only update once every 4-5 years or so as I generally have older cars. Thanks again :)

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You're welcome!

[@Speeddemon3]

Was contemplating purchasing an Autel and was looking for info. Excellent video sir, just subbed!!

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Awesome, thank you for the sub!

[@bbaaspencer1]

I have 808 and printer function is gone and Ability to send report to email too. It wouldn’t reset a few thing too. Worthless now! I have XTool now.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

This is interesting. A lot of people are having this complaint. I'm in my 2nd out of subscription stint and will check again to see if any of these will happen for the first time. Did you make a backup?

[@horacesawyer2487]

Thanks. Wonder if this will help me with a 2017 Chevrolet Volt, resetting the modules?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Depends on what you mean by resetting the modules. Though it does this for most cars, it's best to check Autel's coverage tool for certainty. autel.com/vehicle-coverage/coverage2

[@joaquinaguirre2976]

Thanks Mr. Good info. Now I can decide if I want to buy one Autel.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Carbon, away! 😀

[@MRM-wp4gr]

Great!Thanks for the update on this. Have you tried to make keys for GM or Ford? Did it work?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks! No I have not. Just have come across those brands in need of keys yet.

[@van8000]

Works great for GM and Ford. I have one and been using it for around 2 years now. Great machine

[@achap3604]

Can u show how to diagnose abs trac control fixes with the autel

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks, I will look into this!

[@Rhosk44]

Ok, it's been almost a year since you posted this video, is everything still working without a subscription? I'm wondering if the TPMS functions still work because I've noticed on mine, that it has to be connected to the internet before it works and I'm afraid that when my subscription ends, it won't work. My return window is about to close (Amazon), so I'm trying to figure out if I should keep the MP808TS or return it and buy the Xtool D8. Thank you for any info you can offer.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Hey, everything still works! Coincidentally, I scanned a neighbour's Lexus just yesterday which was having a TPMS issue. Worked like a charm. I don't need to be connected to the Internet to do TPMS tasks. What car is this? It may be a requirement of the car you are hooked up to.

[@Rhosk44]

@@DIYAutoworksNG It was on a 2015 Chevy Cruze. I was away from home when I got a service TPMS system message on the DIC. I had the scanner with me so I tried to access the TPMS system and it said that it had to be connected to WIFi. After I got home, I tried it and I was able to access the system. Thanks for the reply!

[@Rhosk44]

@@DIYAutoworksNG Ok, I figured out the problem. Without a WiFi connection, you can't auto read the VIN, you have to manually select the vehicle. Note that this only occurs when using the diagnostic tab of the TPMS app. If you're going through the main Diagnostic app on the home screen, you can still auto read the VIN without a WiFi connection. Thanks again!

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You're welcome. Thanks too for coming back to update! All the best.

[@mangasingh6985]

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[@adnanal-saffar5473]

My subscription expired 4 month ago , it was still working until today , now it's asking to update before I can scan any car

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I'm yet to have this experience. Even generic OBD scans? Did you make a backup? What tool is it?

[@tadasragauskas8466]

I couldnt code gearbox for bmw because license expired... but yea some functions works

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I think BMW is one of those cars that support online coding. Such "online" functions would fall into the category that require connection to Autel servers and are amongst those disabled.

[@toughlife2000]

Is there a method to know a dirty injectors and a consumed spark plug by the the scanner

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Good question. I have not seen this specifically but I doubt it would. I will play around in the diagnostics menu and report back if I find anything. Mostly likely, one will just have to troubleshoot for misfires and rule out clogged injectors /worn spark plugs manually.

[@toughlife2000]

@@DIYAutoworksNG thank you for responding i appreciate it.

[@temejumbo9794]

It depends on the make and year of the vehicle there ECU come with the option of switching nozzle/ spark plugs on and off. My 2010 Honda Accord does not have any of that options, but I worked on a 2008 CRV and was able to switch on and off nozzles. I got the Autel 906TS.

[@toughlife2000]

@@temejumbo9794 i see. Many thanks for sharing your info

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

The video for this week touches on this! Out tomorrow.

[@amaze2708]

Just an FYI Autel pushed a mandatory update to my 906 Pro TS this week. It wouldn’t work without the update, and the update itself bricked my device and I can’t use it without paying the $700 for the subscription. I was one year past my initial expiration date so it IS possible for them to force you to update. I emailed support and they are refusing to help. Beware, maybe keep it offline (but I needed it online to print out reports).

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Had a backup? Another reason to look for other manufacturers. I've never experienced this on any of my Autel devices.

[@amaze2708]

@@DIYAutoworksNG no, I didn’t have a backup. Didn’t think this would happen (my error) as the Amazon listing makes no mention of mandatory paid updates, it merely says you get a free year of updates. Assumed (again my error) that updates were optional if you needed to diag new cars/years.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Did you reach Autel? I read of someone who made a public complaint and Autel fixed the bug. They said tool should continue to work mostly without updates.

[@amaze2708]

@@DIYAutoworksNG I emailed them and they said I had to pay for the update. I replied back but they haven’t got back to me in over a week now.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

@amaze2708 Find their social media handles and put it there. State how dissatisfied you are with their product and for such for not being upfront their the tool won't work without an update. The response might be different.

[@juliotorres512]

I bought a autel elight around 2016 with 2ys free updates AND The subscription ran out my autel worked okay but I did notice that the Manuel and the function that takes me to the website for the codes did not work and I couldn't program or clone modules but I was able to program Honda keys and Ford keys but I did update it this year when they had their black Friday sale and I bought The subscription for about half The Price and I can Tell the big difference from an updated autel and one without a subscription and I really hope that autel does the sale again around Thanksgiving AND I am happy with my 1/2 price subscription!!!

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

True talk. Because there are so many updates over the course of a year, it really adds up when you get a subscription. Have you seen my video on the cheapest way to get a subscription? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZPVe5pjgLVqkKc

[@acanfield87]

Thanks for covering this--very useful to know! If I purchase one I'll use your affiliate link!

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks mate!

[@badwabbit1973]

it works but limited !! almost a basic code reader most extra fuctions are severely buggy or simply don'y work,,

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I definitely have a very different experience. Everything works except the limitations mentioned in the video.

[@diallosekoutidiane8240]

thanks 😊 very much sir, you are best. Stay blessed

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

👍🏽 Thanks to you! You are one of the people that gave me this video idea!

[@merfax0000]

This was very helpful, thank you.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You're welcome!

[@MGWilliams]

Will this model programme a key plip on a 2003 land rover discovery td5?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Not sure. But you can check Autel's coverage tool here autel.com/vehicle-coverage/coverage2

[@lionell8732]

I bought a used one will I need to update it in order for it to work because I hook the bt connection up and it keeps say vehicle not supported... I even tried it on a 2012 Chevy Cruze and I said the same thing.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

The first thing is to ensure the tool you bought supports the function w you are trying to perform on the car. If a function is not supported you will most times get that response or the vehicle communication will fail. You can use this link to check if your Chevy Cruze is supported. autel.com/vehicle-coverage/coverage2 Alternatively, you may try to connect to the car using generic OBD mode. If it doesn't work, the tool may be faulty, or you could have a short in the vehicle OBD DLC port circuit e.g blown fuse. If the you are able to scan the car with other scanners then a broken OBD DLC circuit is ruled out.

[@buildingkings1074]

Is the autel 908 a better version than the 808 and does this same rule apply if you don't get subscription renewed

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yes, on both counts. Better hardware.

[@meblake7359]

What about relearns and calibrations? Snap on turns this function off for everything.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Same applies. They are not treated differently and are generally available apart from the exception raised in the video.

[@fatahfadhel8830]

Hi my friend whats mean frame were update and when i used this function

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Can you clarify? I didn't get the question.

[@fatahfadhel8830]

@@DIYAutoworksNG sorry i mean firmware in autel what mean this

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Firmware is the software that enables the device to function as a tablet. It's different from the car diagnosis softwares.

[@CarlosGarcia-ls4hn]

If you do, or do not have the subscription, and there are downloads available, but none for your car, and you would never use them, can you delete them so that they do not pile up?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I don't think you can't change what you see in terms of updates that are available for download. But if your question relates to if you've downloaded brands you don't work on, you can surely delete them.

[@tanker242]

How's there not in the lawsuit against autel for this as customers are not signing contracts with the knowledge that this will happen in a few years after subscription expires.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Agree. But in fairness, before each update you install, the tool reminds you to make a backup. If you have one, you can always restore and be left out in the cold.

[@abiodunakeju3241]

Thanks for the explanation, but pls my autel mx808 can no long scan from 1999 model to 2007 which I use to scan it Before. Now I can only scan for 2008 upward and I dont know the problem please help me

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Several cars or a particular car? Hope the fuse for the DLC (OBD2) port of the car is not broken. I haven't experienced this before.

[@mrmotofy]

My MP808TS has been expired since 2019. I just programmed 2 TPMS sensors, suddenly can't program last 2 says update device. At a minimum, after expiration go to wifi and forget networks and never connect it again. I considered it...and should have.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

This is insane! Not sure why some of us are having a different experience. My has been expired twice and I haven't faced any such restriction. In fact it's currently expired. Is it asking you for a firmware update? Those are usually free even if expired and I do them all the time.

[@mrmotofy]

@@DIYAutoworksNG it starts to program....then grey window pops up says this is a new product. Update device to complete or something. After I'd done 2 of them.

[@mrmotofy]

@@DIYAutoworksNG I just threw a vid of it up on my channel

[@techgeek2994]

what about launch devices ? launch x431 after reading this comments i definately wont buy any autel lol

[@davidbassey1009]

My Maxisys doesn't have a lincoln mkz...do you know why? Can't read vin either.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Can't say. VIN reading doesn't usually work for early 2000 models and below

[@okparasamson7984]

Pls is it advisable to buy an autel scan tool from jumia(online shopping)?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I haven't done so before and so cannot exactly say. Would you consider Aliexpress? I have bought from there and have confirmed links which I have included in some video descriptions. Is there a tool you are considering in general?

[@okparasamson7984]

@@DIYAutoworksNG yeah its the mp808 autel

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Nice choice! Let me know how it goes.

[@okparasamson7984]

OK thanks

[@jherfixph8050]

Hi want to buy from autel on aliexpress. Would you suggest to buy official autel store or the other? Im from philippines and i want to buy from aliexpress. Im worry about device lock. The device is to expensive. Best regards!

[@ctrldelete1763]

Hi, I'm struggling to program an additional key to a Mitsubishi Outlander 2012 using the MK808 2022 edition. The error I'm getting after inserting new key after the master key is "key status can not be read" Iv tried using another key, a used original Mitsubishi key belonging to another vehicle but I also get an error message "key is wrong type". What can be the problem? Also there are a few option the main two are Key register and Add an additional key? When should you use each one or what is the difference between the two? Thanks

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Mitsubishi seems to have some peculiar protocol for programming their keys. This article may be helpful mitsubishi.automotive-manuals.com/outlander-2008/M142750630017100ENG.HTML I have also noticed that sometimes, the route through which you entered the programming could affect the result. Did you go through service functions or via the diagnostic menu? Try a different route. BTW, Mitsubishi warns against using a key registered to another car during programming... Weird in my opinion.

[@Jaydow817]

help please can't find any scanner that says it covers 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

What brands and models have you looked at?

[@okparasamson7984]

Thank you very much and God bless

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You're welcome! Thanks.

[@3dmotormaker]

My Maxicom MK808 will no longer communicate to reset degradation data on nissan leaf battery packs. They never told me this was the case when I bought the thing.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Sad to hear. Haven't really had experience with BMS for hybrids. Did you backup the device? Did it stop immediately your subscription expired? If it didn't, restoring the device may fix it. Betterstill, you could reach out to Autel support for advice.

[@jannotheussing917]

same here after 1 year end subscriptions ends i cannot read fault codes from a 2019 Volvo XC40 as it will show error 11003 wich was told me i need to buy new subscription is this really allowed to block even reading out fault codes i think we need to go against Autel if we find enough people they really rip you off especially if you don't use it often it is simple to expensive to renew it each year !

[@bbaaspencer1]

Same here, lost functions with my MK808. I bought XTool and includes 3 year free updates.

[@achap3604]

Thank u again for videos please continue to show

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks!

[@geecrawdad]

Now that my one-year is expiring tomorrow, I'm wondering, and I live in the U.S., if there's any good reason to download the data available for vehicles that are not sold in the U.S. like the Peugeot, Opel, the China cars? I can't think of any myself.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Personally, I downloaded the Peugeot and Opel, but deleted most of the Chinese cars since I don't see myself working on any of them. Be sure to make a backup!

[@geecrawdad]

@@DIYAutoworksNG Ok, thank you. They say to backup only the "Scan" folder but what about the apps and other folders? Are they restored when you reset the scanner?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Just copy that scan folder. That contains the apps, updates as well scan reports. To restore after a reset, replace the scan folder with the one you copied.

[@geecrawdad]

@@DIYAutoworksNG Great, thank you for your advice.

[@WV591]

usually they disable the ECU coding and some other online functions on some scanners. definitely topdon scanners and few others and obviously this.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yep. Though offline coding will still work.

[@MrBuckshot18]

do you have to do the full $1,300 update or can you pick only the manufacturer you need?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

For this particular device the update fee is 599 but they are usually 2 sales a year that bring pricing sub $400. You will have to pay the full update cost as you can't pick and choose.

[@73superglide62]

What is the costs per subscription?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

It depends on the Autel tool. For the MP808TS/Z-TS/S-TS, it's $599.95, but there are 3rd party dealers that offer way more competitive renewal costs.

[@pramilsony1]

renault key programminmg need active subcription

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Not sure.

[@erikk27a]

Hey wum make a backup? I was reading other comments, how do u make a backup

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Hey. I did a video on that kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYCrcpd8Z7iKh5o

[@jaygames1980]

Mine works two years later it just needs updates from a subscription.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks for sharing

[@OKHotrodder4u]

My mx808 won't work. It keeps saying subscription expired. It doesn't matter what I try, it won't do anything but tell me how much I have to pay to use it.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Some have reported this kind of experience. Did you contact Autel. It shouldn't totally stop working. That's fraudulent.

[@OKHotrodder4u]

@DIYAutoworksNG Yes, I contacted autel, and they stated it had to be updated to reinstate the system, which requires payment and subscription. I actually just left oreillys where I bought it, and the manager(the one who convinced me to buy it) said he had no idea. We are now comparing icon, snap-on, innovate, and autel. So far, the solus is still the only one that still works after not updating. Yes, a new solus is $3599, but my solus I bought in 2010 is still working today. The only reason I bought the autel was because it was $500 instead of the $1k for a solus update. We went through the autel and tried every button/option and it continued to pop up the update required screen. The manager told me he was sorry because he knew he had told me a selling point of the autel was free lifetime updates at the time I bought it.

[@josejoseph2424]

Hey bro i do have subscription expired.. and i am working on a car and even though it says its connected to internet, but using reapir assit it saying connect to internet, not allowing to download the file.. is it a problem because its expired!!

[@josejoseph2424]

Mine is auctel ultra

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

It may be because of the expired subscription. In my experience, anything that requires connection to Autel servers won't work. Not 100% sure, but that's where my head's at. You could reach out to Autel support to verify.

[@esestephen3152]

Please can I buy this MP808TS from Alibaba and hope it wont be a locked one. because i read people complaining of it being locked on delievery

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Since Alibaba has many sellers I can't really say. I always like to verify if the device is geo-restricted before buying. Maybe ask the seller?

[@moebassidji8306]

my ms 919 stopped mapping the modules when scanning the whole system,no more topology.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Very interesting. Never heard this. Did you make a backup?

[@moebassidji8306]

@@DIYAutoworksNG sorry for late respond,no i did not,and honestly did not know how to do it and if it was beneficial.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Reach out to Autel and see what they say.

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

Can you still access FCA if you don’t get Autel updates and payed FCA

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

For FCA I believe you must have an active Autel subscription.

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

@@DIYAutoworksNG yeah see that’s what I thought I was hoping if you are subscribed to FCA I could still access FCA without updates but they all want a piece of your wallet

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I know!

[@LUKAS-RACING]

Thanks, i have just seen another video where the guy says his autel mk808 does not work after the subscription ends, it must be user error. Thanks

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Exactly. I agree with it being user error. Regards.

[@happysmile9225]

I have MK808 with and it is working after subscription end without any issus.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks for sharing! Good to get confirmation from someone else!

[@ernestotudinojr7007]

Autel mp808 will continue work if has back up even not renewed?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Not very clear on the question. You mean if it will continue to work without a subscription and you have a backup? It will work even without a backup. Backups are for it the files on the tool get corrupt like a smart phone could.

[@GadgetmanKentuckiana]

I have the MaxiSys Elite. I never would connect it to the internet, but in Nov 2021 I did and was offered a small update with no charge. I downloaded it and now no new vehicles show up in the history. In addition the unit reboots while i am in the middle of a scan causing me to loose my work and time. It was fine before the "update". Is Autel planting viruses to force updates???

[@GadgetmanKentuckiana]

And has anyone else had a similar experience?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I haven't experienced this before. Did you do a backup before the update? If you did, you can restore things back to how they were. There's always a risk of data loss during an update and that's why Autel advises backing up the scan folder before doing an update. The scan folder probably got corrupted which explains not seeing scan history. I guess you are out of subscription?

[@galaxyb1103]

Hi, it's a known issue, they seem to push "updates" that brick your device in order for you to purchase another subscription. A few users on forums have complained about this same curious issue.

[@jannotheussing917]

@@galaxyb1103 had the same after i connected it to internet the system was corrupt forces me to do a subscription update , they rip you off !

[@ronaldscott781]

Excellent video. So much so I purchased MK906bt. Wondering should I pick and choose the make/model updates or just grab them all? I don’t want to slow it down needlessly.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks for the compliment! My advice is to pick the updates on cars you need. For me I even started unistalling some of those rare brands I won't ever work on. JAC, etc.

[@ronaldscott781]

@@DIYAutoworksNG 👍 hadn’t thought of that.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

But if you're a shop, you probably want to keep all😁

[@ronaldscott781]

@@DIYAutoworksNG for now diy, hav small family “fleet” of six vehicles from 2002 to 2012. (finally got rid of the ‘98 and ‘95 lol). Long term looking to expand to shop owner which is why I took the dive into the Autel. And while I am on that topic, I am really impressed with the quality of“kit“ that comes along with this scanner. One example is the Bluetooth remote OBD-2 port “VCI“ plugin. comes with a built-in LED flashlight so you can see where to plug-in at. Really just a lot of nice touches like that.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Got you. Same here. Family fleet plus neighbours/friends. Lol. Also love those touches of detail, like the rubberised grips at the edges...

[@georgetech380]

Can any one comfirm that the mk808 ( Not the TS ) can work on Asian cars and EU cars from 1996? because Autel UK site says the MK808 works on Asian cars from 2008 and EU cars from 2000 but the MK808TS works o all cars from 1996 .....any one knows if that is the case?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

From first principles, the US enforced OBDII compliance for all cars sold in the US market in 1996, while the EU did the same in 2001 for gasoline cars, diesel cars followed in 2004. What's more important is the region the car was made for. E.g an Asian car (Honda) made for the US market had no choice but to conform to OBDII policy by 1996. This was when OBD ports moved to the standard 16-pin layout. All things being equal, the MK808 should follow the above in terms of access to cars. I don't see the MK808TS having access to EU cars across board before 2001, since there was really no policy. That said, this is where the proprietary OBDI connectors come in. This is my opinion though. You can email Autel tech support for a definitive response.

[@georgetech380]

@@DIYAutoworksNGmany thanks for these information,I didn't think all of these

[@geecrawdad]

Do you still have access to MaxiFix?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Works 100% Didn't even think of it, but just checked.

[@geecrawdad]

@@DIYAutoworksNG That's great, thanks.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You're welcome

[@jdsstegman]

My mx808 is bricked without a subscription. Never was made aware of that when I bought it. It's a joke.

[@landanlong247]

I was under the impression the mx versions where America supported scanners damn I’m sorry to hear that man I been looking for a bi directional scanner for weeks and just can’t make heads or tails out of autel how did yours perform up til when it took a shit

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

That's sad. Doesn't come on at all or comes on but no vehicle apps?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I also think the MX was largely for the US market but haven't heard this from Autel. I did a video on Autel vs XTOOL that may help you dilemma on picking a tool. It may be helpful. Just search Autel vs XTOOL, it should come up.

[@SuperXxelixx]

How you doing men, I have another question for you, if you don't update your scanner for example the las 3 years and when you want me a update you need to pay the previous update to be available to update the newest year, or just need tu pay the last update year and automatic update the previous years, you have to pay more for the updates if you have backup updates?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

You just pay for one year and update all the other years.

[@SuperXxelixx]

@@DIYAutoworksNG that's not bad, thanks men I'm gonna buy this scanner pretty soon just because I watch your videos and I'm learning how to use. Your videos are pretty clear how to use this scanner.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@randonnaidoo2592]

Does this apply to ds808

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yes.

[@randonnaidoo2592]

@@DIYAutoworksNG and with testing normal German vehicles jus basic read and clear will it work?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yes on this, too.

[@mikeceli]

So, did it work with expired subscription?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thought the video covered what works and instances or certain functions where they won't?

[@Sugarkryptonite]

@@DIYAutoworksNG They clearly didn't watch it. Any thoughts on the MK808? Does it work in the same manner? I've heard people saying 1) you need an internet connection to use the device for any tasks, and 2) that it does stop working after 1 year, unlike your MP808.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks! Some tasks require Internet access or connection to Autel servers. Such functions won't work when a subscription expires. However, its not true that the MK808 requires Internet for all tasks. Also not true that it will stop working if your subscription expires. Same sules apply for both scanners

[@Sugarkryptonite]

@@DIYAutoworksNG Thanks. Which tasks require internet exactly?

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

For example, programming some Mercedes Benz keys, online coding (there's offline coding), However, these these are not supported on the MK808 I believe. Also, FCA cars after 2017 because of the secure gateway module need Internet authentication for the tool to have access to these FCA cars.

[@cody967]

Looking from the comments I think u need to wait longer til it bricks. Idk if it's worth the risk

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Didn't experience this. Was out of subscription for about 2 years. Finally renewed to get some updates. New license runs out this fall.

[@billdonohue2389]

So it still works as it did, you just can’t add anything new???

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Yes. And some functions that need connection to Autel servers. Not many but there're there like online coding for for European makes.

[@arshadmirza5988]

The Autels will block out after a period of time when the subscription expires, mine did after 4 years....

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I'm on my 2nd out of subscription stint, but haven't been put of subscription for upto 4 years at a time. If its so, that's not good.

[@arshadmirza5988]

@@DIYAutoworksNG i have emailed Autel to see what is going on ....just waiting to hear...i cannot scan anything at the moment.

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

@arshadmirza5988 do you have a backup?

[@ArthurFleck-tx9di]

It's a BRICK

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

A number of people have reported nasty experiences when their subscription expired. Unfortunate. I guess you've had one. Do you mind sharing? Mine has been all good.

[@iituklawii]

i got mine expired

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Maybe you bought it used?

[@donyel30]

No it won't call autel they tell you you can't code try coding mini cooper 2010 at the end of coding it said to renew my membership will not code then it stops coding it forces you to buy it

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I believe coding for BMW/Mini etc on Autel is online, so it's one of those things that won't work

[@donyel30]

Junk cant code with out membership

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Online coding? Offline works well without a subscription

[@donyel30]

@@DIYAutoworksNG no it can't try codeing a bmw it goes there the hole process at the end it says renew your membership to continue junk tools

[@donyel30]

@@DIYAutoworksNG i called autel they told me you need a membership to do it

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Right. BMW coding on Autel is online for the most part. Such functions won't work without a subscription. Bad move by Autel.

[@donyel30]

Not if your coding mini or bmw at the end of codeing it will tell you to buy scription to finish this is crappy on there part

[@gabinosanchez7563]

Tha is a frigging lie you guys be aware you do loose functions I know this because I own an autel maximIM 608 pro and it is happening to me

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Sorry, but I take offence at saying I'm lying. I have simply narrated my experience. I don't doubt yours either. As stated in the video there are functions that won't work without a subscription. I hope you made a backup?

[@gabinosanchez7563]

@@DIYAutoworksNG i apologize to you for that, i speak for myself and in my case i paid $4000 thousand dollar for a unit that is on the path to become a brick i use it on a day by day basis and i know what it was capable of when i recent bought it and as i keep using it i keep loosing functions

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Thanks a lot. I have since seen people with a similar experience. You do know anything that required online access to Autel servers won't work anymore. Are you more into key programming? The IM608 is a powerful tool!

[@gabinosanchez7563]

@@DIYAutoworksNG i am general mecanic when i replace a PCM i have t o do a key programming the thing is, if i paid for the unit i paid for the information already in it, this is like if i buy a book and the librarian comes to my house and rips off a few pages , i am so dissapointed, those tecnichians is not working by my side, they do not know what automobiles i work on. on the good side yes it is a very powerful tool no dought so far 2008 und up to 2020 it is working perfect for now.

[@FrenchConnectie]

I recieved my MK906pro. It is not working on European cars! Apparantly I should have bought it at a EU dealer!!! That intel is nowhere to be found. Now trying to return the device, Autel is simply avoiding my question to send me the return adress. They admit it doesn't work ( mindblowing) but refuse to let me return the device. What a crap company!!

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Hey. Where exactly did you buy from? From an American dealer? Personally, I avoid buying from Autel directly and rather buy from authorized Chinese dealer/retailers on Amazon or the like. The Chinese retailers usually ship the global version of tools that are not limited by market regions. I've used my MP808TS in Europe and it works well (used on a Mercedes). I also email sellers to know if their tool is IP-restricted or not. I've looked up the MK906PRO and it should work on European cars. Autel should really ditch this regional approach to stuff. Sorry mate. Definitely return it.

[@FrenchConnectie]

@@DIYAutoworksNG I cant wrap my mind around the fact that we need to find this out ourselves! I read on their website (after i got my device) beware of the grey market!! But you can register grey market devices at their official website.... Mindblowing weird ass company! I am working on my Mercedes Viano 3.0 device doesn't work.....and they admit it..... FFS

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Now I get you. I think it will work on other European cars. That Viano is a pain when it comes to scan tool support. It's not just Autel, I believe. I've also searched for support with the XTOOL devices I own, and they don't support the car either. If you are able, plug the device to another European car and see if it works.

[@FrenchConnectie]

@@DIYAutoworksNG doesn't work! Only simple fault codes no acces to engine

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I see. What other cars have you tried it on?

[@johnstinson557]

Not quick but it will turn into a brick

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

I'll be hear waiting for it to do so. This is now 5 years or so of owning the tool

[@gary8866]

My 1200 pound 906bt stopped working a couple of months after the subscription run out total rip-off 1200 quid down the drain

[@DIYAutoworksNG]

Amazing!