DA vs EFF On Land Reform (Land Expropriation Without Compensation)

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5 жыл бұрын

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@The_Vuka_Experience
@The_Vuka_Experience 5 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly lazy thinking to compare land expropriation in RSA to Zim. We have a completely different approach, don’t be lazy thinkers 🙄
@brianclement2329
@brianclement2329 5 жыл бұрын
Expropriation is just another word for theft. How is that different from Zim? Now if we have a policy of restitution that would be different to Zim.
@The_Vuka_Experience
@The_Vuka_Experience 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Clement if someone hijacks your car, and I buy it from the hijacker and you come to me and take your car back by force, are you committing theft? Or are you taking what’s rightfully yours?
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
@@brianclement2329 NO NO NO expropriation is not just another word for theft, it is actually giving back something that was previously taken illegally or forcefully. It will be different from Zim's approach, we have professionals working plans out in association with EFF, the plan is to give young black people the opportunity to farm, there are many young blacks who are in agriculture and fully understand how things are run, I am talking about people who are certain about farming related stuff, they will be provided with equipment to grow healthy crops and other things, that will help increase the economy of South Africa, when goods are sold out, people paying tax and increasing the Gross Domestic Product, it will put South African economy of a good stand. GO TO SCHOOL YOU WHITE NEGATIVE LAZY CLOWN WHO THINKS HE/SHE MADE IT BECAUSE OF INHERITANCE...You would always compare to other countries failures, because you have no better reference or a proper understanding on how the distribution of land to young farmers would help change the economy if SA
@thekgi1349
@thekgi1349 5 жыл бұрын
Dude theft is what the white settlers did in South Africa. They literally killed people and stole their land and lifestock. Because you are a white person you want nothing to be done about this. You argument has no base and is only rooted in a lack of understanding especiallly of what justice is. The EFF will grow because it is telling the truth on land.Stop lying to yourself and be honest for a change.
@hoodat829
@hoodat829 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 and its going to be carried out effectively and efficiently like every other state owned enterprise, oh pls man, u guys are dreaming......your country is heading down the toilet, you will get no investment, its already teetering on the precipice what do u think destroying property rights will do, every 1st world nation(white) have strong property rights for a reason. your clueless but go ahead, just dont ask us for aid when the flies are buzzing around your lips
@babwastar4575
@babwastar4575 5 жыл бұрын
I love that lady eff amandla
@strongertogether3890
@strongertogether3890 5 жыл бұрын
You love her, because she is racist and birds of a feather flock together..what she said made n sense from an economic point of view..its a wonder how that party calls itself economic freedom fighters..thank God they only 10% and there numbers will not increase because everyone is slowly waking up to the facts that the real problems is corruption.looting and BEE..it matters not if you agree..those are the reasons south africa is in turmoil.. and besides since 1910 the black population has increased 1000%..there is no wonder there is no jobs and no wonder land is needed..but to blame white people and to completely disregard the failures of the government over the past 25 years is due to your own racial hatred..no matter what you say..thats what it is..normal people do not include race into politics.. that includes apartheid and thats why it is no more..if you think your little10% race escapades will change SA..you in for a mammoth surprise and wasting your life and your childrens..
@GundemaroSagrajas
@GundemaroSagrajas 5 жыл бұрын
How can people trust giving so much power to the State as to forcefully take land and "redistribute" it... Such a corrupt government will only bring about disaster.
@siphoammkhatshwa395
@siphoammkhatshwa395 5 жыл бұрын
Easy Because the Land was stolen by White People from Blacks
@zakhemgenge4568
@zakhemgenge4568 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel de Solano they had already brought disaster land will be distributed amongst them MKMVA , their family and friends as it has happened already
@dennisdennis7627
@dennisdennis7627 5 жыл бұрын
Always makes threats about corruptions it is okay as long as blacks get land it doesn't matter
@thekgi1349
@thekgi1349 5 жыл бұрын
You offer no solutions meaning you want the current flawed ownership patterns to continue.
@dennisdennis7627
@dennisdennis7627 5 жыл бұрын
Even countries like lesotho they managed their affairs even thou they have small economy
@tulifranz9336
@tulifranz9336 5 жыл бұрын
Since when is DA the spoke person for the majority of South Africans. Why did this guy not talk during Apartheid? Where was he during Apartheid? EFF and ANC should join hands to give the land to the land less.
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
Reform paragraph 26 and 15 of the farming tax act. It will vastly decrease the market value of farming land, however at the same time making it more difficult to get larger loans with the land as security.
@katlegotuke
@katlegotuke 5 жыл бұрын
This guy blowing hot air.
@christianmrz
@christianmrz 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. I just wanted to say you're awesome. God loves you. And may you Have a wonderful week, filled joy, happiness, peace and success.☺️
@bulelanimemela8329
@bulelanimemela8329 5 жыл бұрын
But most of the land in the rural areas are mountains which is not agricultural in some places think about it
@dezeekat
@dezeekat 5 жыл бұрын
that high five at the end.. priceless
@cday131
@cday131 5 жыл бұрын
DA appeals to reason, EFF appeals to emotion. One of them is more useful for running a successful country.
@themburoyalty2179
@themburoyalty2179 5 жыл бұрын
cday131 They are emotional because Black people are still dispossessed . We don’t expect you to feel what I feel you lack empathy
@sendosityebi9655
@sendosityebi9655 5 жыл бұрын
We have suffer sooo much under white ppl who killed us for land and yet we sat down and talked wth u and yet we back at the same place where whites think thy btter
@johngreen2266
@johngreen2266 4 жыл бұрын
Great more victim mentality grow up
@IsaacZim544
@IsaacZim544 5 жыл бұрын
The way it was implemented in Zimbabwe is different to the way you want to do in in SA, here we took it forcefully and unconstitutionally.
@siphoammkhatshwa395
@siphoammkhatshwa395 5 жыл бұрын
And that was the right way
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
thank you, words taken out of my mouth...These negative puppies must go bark somewhere
@sizwentuli2943
@sizwentuli2943 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for not putting ' Chaos' in all your captions...
@millionmthembu5406
@millionmthembu5406 5 жыл бұрын
Why do u hate urself as an black man
@sizwentuli2943
@sizwentuli2943 5 жыл бұрын
@@millionmthembu5406 Me?!
@lenaneo52
@lenaneo52 5 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy Africa is coming back to it's rightfully owners. Black brothers and sisters we have everything the world needs. They must bound before us or fotsek
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
Your mentality is of take take take. But why not create? You don't need a farm to create.
@infiltr80r
@infiltr80r 4 жыл бұрын
@@optimistic5778 Yup. Neighbor builds a house, "what a nice house you have, it should be mine as I lived here first".
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 4 жыл бұрын
Black migrants are not the "rightful owners".
@amazingkoechi4628
@amazingkoechi4628 Жыл бұрын
@@optimistic5778 black south Africans made south Africa what it is today
@anim8ta611
@anim8ta611 2 жыл бұрын
The Land is God's land, and it is for all its people to share and live. We are all humans and should respect each other, seeing this land expropriation without compensation is the dumb, because it would destroy the country's economy for one, there will be no equal distribution to the people for they will be paying rent for the land because it will belong to the government not the people as these people think it would. Those you have been born in this country is a south African so don't play a race card when we are all the same.
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
Education, innovation, integrity, give tribal trust land to people, state owned land, appeal paragraph 26 and 15 of the farming tax act to make farming land more affordable (but reduces the amounts for loans which may be obtained), kindess, hard working ethic, capital for positive prospective start ups, erradicating corruption (hardest part), increase social cohesion.
@strongertogether3890
@strongertogether3890 5 жыл бұрын
Your ideas are light years ahead of EFF parrots or berrets ..whatever they want to be called..
@babwastar4575
@babwastar4575 5 жыл бұрын
We are all africans same father and etc but stop compering us to Zimbabwe joe, we dnt dance the same
@rialseebran2072
@rialseebran2072 5 жыл бұрын
why is the government going to be the custodian ???
@africanchildafricanchild2061
@africanchildafricanchild2061 5 жыл бұрын
Rial Seebran so that the wealth and fruits of this land can be shared equally not by minority
@shashikanaidoo5553
@shashikanaidoo5553 5 жыл бұрын
Not a very good idea ... the majority of south Africans won't benefit when the elite loot the fruits....
@rialseebran2072
@rialseebran2072 5 жыл бұрын
@@shashikanaidoo5553 everyday south Africa
@rialseebran2072
@rialseebran2072 5 жыл бұрын
@@africanchildafricanchild2061 what I mean is why not directly give it to CAPABLE "black" poor south Africans instead of just renting it to them
@africanchildafricanchild2061
@africanchildafricanchild2061 5 жыл бұрын
Shashika Naidoo so let's be all equally poor then.
@sceneryrelaxation6701
@sceneryrelaxation6701 2 жыл бұрын
So what about all that land in the homelands and rural areas? People just want land that has been developed already by the farmers and not want to go to their homelands and start something productive. They just want something that someone else has worked hard for.
@seanbouw
@seanbouw 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this upload, from Bouw, Sean Mr.
@thamsanqakhoza4554
@thamsanqakhoza4554 5 жыл бұрын
3:41 Sanctions John 20.8% Steenhuisen ???
@wesleybaartman4601
@wesleybaartman4601 4 жыл бұрын
Man, what is your/DA solution thats all.
@azaniawaafrika5334
@azaniawaafrika5334 5 жыл бұрын
let's see the example in capetown
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 5 жыл бұрын
TIK TOK !! You better solve this land issue....to try and talk the problem away is not going to work...we all know by know...their are far to many strategies and faar to little action.The land issue is driving SA on its knees....the longer you dragg it out...the bigger the pain is going to be....doent matter wich way it goes...sort out this mess and stop talking nonsence !!!
@florencemasule8529
@florencemasule8529 5 жыл бұрын
"Zimbabwe and Venezuela" Hon Chair this reflect painful. "reflect the pain"' "never"' as quoted.
@dk.650
@dk.650 5 жыл бұрын
@Carmen Fox expropriation by the state happened in Venezuela, all can see the outcome. Behind the scenes agenda is the same.
@strongertogether3890
@strongertogether3890 5 жыл бұрын
Many other examples where communism has failed..even the most advanced communist places like china..those people cannot wait to get away..think about that..this land expropriation is a smoke screen for the government to control all land..fuck that..the land was given to all by God..end of story..no time for delusions.
@MeekM-jd7hw
@MeekM-jd7hw 5 жыл бұрын
Land ownership will not make black people rich. I grew up in rural areas where people own huge field, but we left those field and now my family life in a shack. The Land must be given to those who work the land.
@nonozulu
@nonozulu 5 жыл бұрын
We own land in the village. My uncle is the head of the family and that land belongs to him and his sons, we are just cheerleaders as the females. In my family there are about 7 women within the family and have no claims to anything we grow or can we suggest anything on that land. So, we still don't have land.
@rudzanirambuda3665
@rudzanirambuda3665 5 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what the EFF says they will implement. A land use license where everyone who is deserving can have equitable access to the land, that can only happen if the land is under state custodian and not private ownership.
@sisikelelwemadikani
@sisikelelwemadikani 5 жыл бұрын
Land is accomodation Mines is land Farms is land
@tsheponcamane2018
@tsheponcamane2018 5 жыл бұрын
If you knew how the spatial design of apartheid is,then you will understand that the land that your people live in was as a result of the economic apartheid design...you are expressing lay views,I forgive you,even if you dont think you deserve forgiveness.
@TheWildernessChannel
@TheWildernessChannel 5 жыл бұрын
@@rudzanirambuda3665 Who decides who is worthy? Sounds like communism to me and there is plenty of historical evidence of what a monumental failure communism has been 120 million dead people tells a significant story.
@scyaaglads7723
@scyaaglads7723 5 жыл бұрын
Your intro was nice but changed to protectionism as always
@moneywolf2344
@moneywolf2344 4 жыл бұрын
There's enough Africans who can farm. Enough about Zimbabwe
@thabisoshale9168
@thabisoshale9168 3 жыл бұрын
I agree there are alot of South Africans who know how to farm but do we know how to 'run' a farm? Do we have experience of the farming market, the connections in those markets, stakeholders and key partners in those farms? Do we know how the farming market achieve allocative and productive efficiency? There is a difference between knowing how to farm and running a farm.
@kimbakelenge3177
@kimbakelenge3177 5 жыл бұрын
EFF is dreaming..the black majority need houses, jobs and education.. please deal with that first..not everyone is a farmer.. Malema is an example, he had a farm and it failed.
@polokoduran6612
@polokoduran6612 5 жыл бұрын
Stop thinking small,
@sdcalilivin
@sdcalilivin 5 жыл бұрын
Without ALL the land you have NOTHING case in point look at your present situation. Why do you not want that as a Real True S.A.
@drbella3524
@drbella3524 5 жыл бұрын
1. It didn't fail they took it from him. 2. We need land to build schools, hospitals, offices etc. You clearly don't listen nor read. But we will educate 1 sleepist at a time.
@kimbakelenge3177
@kimbakelenge3177 5 жыл бұрын
@@drbella3524 why did they take it from him..
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
Only if you understood what could come with land, you were gonna talk sense...First of all, you sound just like a person who doesn't believe in yourself, we believe that everything is possible with determination, you thinking is so weak, you are embarrassing...You look old to be talking trash and show a disbelief towards people of your race. Grow up and stop being a jerk
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
95% unemployment in Zimbabwe
@dennisdennis7627
@dennisdennis7627 5 жыл бұрын
Threads hahaha so what we have nothing to loose always thinks we need employment we need to do things for ourselfs
@mankindbeast2059
@mankindbeast2059 5 жыл бұрын
100% nt 95
@zakhemgenge4568
@zakhemgenge4568 5 жыл бұрын
well this was other Stynheisen i never knew
@themburoyalty2179
@themburoyalty2179 5 жыл бұрын
zakhe Mgenge He must shift the fuck up , he doesn’t care about our people. You don’t know him .
@nellymk3213
@nellymk3213 5 жыл бұрын
Fighting against corruption is too dangerous, i quoted in President Kagame speech.. Zimbabwe could be a most richest an developed Country in Africa, but due to sanctions thy couldn't. As well Venezuela too. I quoted Mugabe speach at UN samit, when he says "We have defeated the monster, Bring us another, or what other name is." We are African. We're not European, let them keep theirs money 😆, an i keep my Zimbabwe. 😄😄
@moutchoouattara3217
@moutchoouattara3217 5 жыл бұрын
Right on
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
Do not come here threatining us in reference to Zimbabwe's experience...There are anctions we are gna suffer from because of fighting for our land. Rather suffer knowing we are in full ownership of the land, that is the goal than to get the little when whites are living golden. This is our land and we are gonna get it...Stop being negative
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 95% un-employment in Zimbabwe.
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
@@optimistic5778 Well who cares? don't think small, Zimbabwe had it's failures and that doesn't mean South Africa would go through the same thing
@dk.650
@dk.650 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 who is rebuilding Zimbabwe today, who? Everyone in Zim is happy and very successful, everyone has a beautiful farm in Zimbabwe, growing massive crops and exporting worldwide competing in the global market. It's awesome. Uuuh Not!!! And it's so very sad. All because of greedy war mongering politicians, period. And don't use sanctions. SA had sanctions imposed and actually thrived.
@dissdad8744
@dissdad8744 5 жыл бұрын
The economic crisis in Venezuela and Zimbabwe were caused by foreign embargos and sanctions, not by internal problems. Somehow Steenhuisen forgets to mention this important detail.
@benathiben7519
@benathiben7519 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a DA supporter but the guy is right
@mtshedamarunyane5465
@mtshedamarunyane5465 5 жыл бұрын
Never negotiate with thieves, just take what belong to you after beating him up. As long as we negotiate with thieves nothing will be achieved.
@brandonnel6905
@brandonnel6905 5 жыл бұрын
voetsek
@pridesibeko1906
@pridesibeko1906 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonnel6905 voetsek for what now?
@onelife6403
@onelife6403 5 жыл бұрын
You are thieves, the Koi and San own the land, liars you will get what you deserve for lying!
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
Tshepo - Bantu people (black) stole land by force from the KoiSan and Hottentot. Go get to know the history before you talk Malema garbage
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
@Niven Munoo True. But then we should ask those around the world to all do the same. Sound practical and does it make sense ? No. Bottom line is Bantu people must shut up and accept the fact that they own nothing and never build anything themselves that says they actually had a country
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need a farm to create. Also why don't people own the land in tribal trusts, that's a good place to start and then state owned land. And then appeal paragraph 26 and 14 of the farming tax act which will mske farming land more accessible.
@leandro-alexclarke362
@leandro-alexclarke362 5 жыл бұрын
People listen and understand he is busy opening the eyes of all disadvantaged people
@BlackMan437
@BlackMan437 5 жыл бұрын
Talks talks talks, time is due
@strongertogether3890
@strongertogether3890 5 жыл бұрын
yes time to go back to school and stop thinking everything is for free ..lol, or go live in heaven:D
@BlackMan437
@BlackMan437 5 жыл бұрын
@@strongertogether3890 i hold a BSC in Computer science. what are u on about, bitterness written all over your comment. Hypocrite
@Appregator
@Appregator 5 жыл бұрын
The hoax is that land was never owned in black tribal culture and land in RSA was not occupied by anybody.
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
THAT DOESN'T MEANS THIEVES HAD THE RIGHT TO OCCUPY IT AND DISPOSSESS BLACK OWNERS OF SOME OF THE UNOCCUPIED LAND...
@Appregator
@Appregator 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 That is a lie you are pursuing.
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
@@Appregator Tell the truth, you lie detector!!! Is the truth too hot to handle? Do you even understand how GDP works? or you only complain when you hear that tax rate increased? Do you even know the reason behind all that? Say it, as a busy black person with a lot going on, I am always keen to spare a few minutes to educate idiots like you
@Appregator
@Appregator 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 Sounds like you're a professional useless person with the straw man argument you presented. Completely off subject.
@Appregator
@Appregator 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 How do you dispossess owners of unoccupied land. 😂😂😂 Your arguments are ridiculous.
@TourWithEttas
@TourWithEttas 5 жыл бұрын
Steenhuisen makes so much more sense than any of the Eff members. Eff only appeal to emotion
@JilleOuma-nv6oz
@JilleOuma-nv6oz 9 ай бұрын
Die mense soek moeilikheid kan nie boer nie net TEEL
@heishamkenan7861
@heishamkenan7861 5 жыл бұрын
South Africa is for all south africans of all skin colour for better n strong south Africa.
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
Only if it was now. This South Africa was divided by white people who came and stole our land and made black feel small. There is no way we are gna establish peace with people who are still benefiing from the legacy accumulated by their evil ancestors. NO WAY, I PREFER BEING DIVIDED THAN TO RECONCILE WITH THIEVES WHO ROBBED OUR ANCESTORS FOR THEIR SUPREMACY, NEVER!!!
@brandonnel6905
@brandonnel6905 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 Why are you making such a racist statement when you know that most white south africans are simply born without having a choice on where they were born? Do you seriously think that we had a choice? And yes, I like it here. Life isn't fair boet, deal with it. My ancestors found land, they didn't steal it because no one was occupying the land.. Stop being biased just cause you're black
@dissdad8744
@dissdad8744 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 Let's not call an entire race of people thieves. This is not good. Rather, let's investigate where people were dispossessed and their land take away, so that we can address the issue in each individual case.
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
@@dissdad8744 I will say it again ''white people are thieves'' because all the children of the thieve jan van rieeck are still benefiting from the wrongfully accumulated legacy. I do not regret saying this and I will say it again ''white people are thieves''. Why is it that it is hard for them to let go the land they stole? That makes them thieves to me
@dissdad8744
@dissdad8744 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 Are you saying they stole it, because they came from foreign shores or because they did actually dispossess people who previously occupied the land?
@theconfusedoromo5361
@theconfusedoromo5361 5 жыл бұрын
EFF MOVE IT.
@hlempheabielsemelane3358
@hlempheabielsemelane3358 5 жыл бұрын
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@strongertogether3890
@strongertogether3890 5 жыл бұрын
has 95% un employment and mugabe has a staircase made of Gold in his house and his bed..So? you really only fooling yourself and other parrots..or red berrets, i call them parrots.because they only repeat malema..none of them have thinking capability..sad really
@qedusizimthembu6406
@qedusizimthembu6406 5 жыл бұрын
Time is up South Africans, we need to support EFF on ths issue because even the ANC Government is not prepared to give us our land but they know they stole it
@brandonnel6905
@brandonnel6905 5 жыл бұрын
voetsek
@qedusizimthembu6406
@qedusizimthembu6406 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonnel6905 watever but we need our land back
@brandonnel6905
@brandonnel6905 5 жыл бұрын
@@qedusizimthembu6406 Land back? It's not your shit. My ancestors didn't kick anyone out either, we were just first to take it! it was empty they liked it they took first come first served. Deal with it
@optimistic5778
@optimistic5778 5 жыл бұрын
Education, innovation, integrity, give tribal trust land to people, state owned land, appeal paragraph 26 and 15 of the farming tax act to make farming land more affordable (but reduces the amounts for loans which may be obtained), kindess, hard working ethic, capital for positive prospective start ups, erradicating corruption (hardest part), increase social cohesion.
@hoodat829
@hoodat829 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonnel6905 brandon, did you know that an average IQ of 65-70 is considered retarded by european standards, well thats the black average in africa, thats what you trying to reason with.
@danydany6895
@danydany6895 5 жыл бұрын
EFF..Respect..Take the land Back..United Africa
@simbongileblaai8930
@simbongileblaai8930 5 жыл бұрын
We want land back to us thanks hlengiwe I salute you,we are ready for any situAtion
@13MikeTravels
@13MikeTravels 5 жыл бұрын
Venezuela has been under harsh sanctions and meddling since they nationalized their oil. Shame in them for using their resources for their own poor empoverished population rather than keep them poor so the imperialists can live easier. The country still has not failed due to it's own actions, but the USA is doubling down on efforts to get their oil back for Exxon. They never mention this in public. We topple democratic regimes all the time and the first change is always the resources being removed from the country. The economy? What economy, white people's? The Africans don't have one. Take that land. Don't let them tell you your money is worthless. Tell them their money is worthless and you want gold payments. If they have it, it's stolen from them. All Africa needs to do the same thing.
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
You so lost its as funny as the EFF on history. 😂😂😂 Bantu people down own anything other than the small strip along the East Coast near KZN. And you know what - Bantu stole it from the people known today as Zimbabweans The problem with you black people is you dont and can not think very long and hard and deep. 😂
@nagesltick3922
@nagesltick3922 5 жыл бұрын
Corruption and mismanagement as well
@13MikeTravels
@13MikeTravels 5 жыл бұрын
@@theoholmes8471 so they should be poor forever based on rules made by people who stole their resources? Those people own almost nothing they live in shacks with no water or electricity. I've seen it. If you steal my car and I catch you and take it back, am I a thief also? What if I catch you a year from now. Somehow it's always bad for the economy when people want to stop being taken advantage of.
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
@@13MikeTravels What you clearly forget is the RESOURCES you claiming was stolen was NEVER VALUABLE before 1652 among Bantu land invaders who saw their value only on cattle and thereby their many women
@13MikeTravels
@13MikeTravels 5 жыл бұрын
@@theoholmes8471 I don't care Bantu zulu hutu tutsi etc it was obviously better than where the conquerors came from. Bantu Zimbabwe/ Rhodesia whatever title you assign to them they are Africans. European people made up title deeds and issued land to settlers that was taken from Africans. It's not valuable, then give it back. What you don't realize is that eventually they will no longer be concerned with the laws you've made up to keep them down. And they will forcefully take it. And it won't be isolated like Zimbabwe and others will follow suit. Good luck. The instant they negotiate from a position of power your so called economy is finished.
@BvdKareem
@BvdKareem 5 жыл бұрын
Two racists in this comment section ,can we get there addresses for there land pls ❤️
@leoniea138
@leoniea138 5 жыл бұрын
He is talking bull dust.....Zimbabwe was sanctioned in August before 9/11......then 9/11 happened for the same reason.....
@telltraceyyoursecret4529
@telltraceyyoursecret4529 5 жыл бұрын
Leonie Arries it’s blacks pple lands not white pple period
@leoniea138
@leoniea138 5 жыл бұрын
@@telltraceyyoursecret4529 yes
@pridesibeko1906
@pridesibeko1906 5 жыл бұрын
@@leoniea138 the land will belong to the state as Department of Agriculture not for individuals. The aim is to create jobs and empower the economy of our country. There is nothing racial about it. I'm glad you can see that. May God bless you.
@leoniea138
@leoniea138 5 жыл бұрын
@@pridesibeko1906 ok
@dk.650
@dk.650 5 жыл бұрын
@@pridesibeko1906 Run like all other SOEs, a complete and utter failure under this uselessness and incompetence.
@jeanoliver3573
@jeanoliver3573 5 жыл бұрын
you want land invest in land like we all had to do
@luvodoni1522
@luvodoni1522 5 жыл бұрын
invest in stolen land i would be committing a crime
@leratotanya1123
@leratotanya1123 5 жыл бұрын
HOW DO WE ALL INVEST IN THE LAND THAT WE ARE NOT IN OWNERSHIP OF? SHUT UP
@dk.650
@dk.650 5 жыл бұрын
@@luvodoni1522 stolen by who? Ghosts? Prove it !
@syabongadlamini1123
@syabongadlamini1123 5 жыл бұрын
Masimbakho fuck u.. You came here an killed our ancestors and took the land now you tel us about investing for it 😠😠 remember this words what goes around comes back around Wil kill for our land mark my words
@nicoarnold2200
@nicoarnold2200 5 жыл бұрын
@@leratotanya1123 You work hard and then buy it, like the rest of us.
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
Black people are not KoiSan and therefore no land in most of South Africa belongs to Bantu people
@SnowmanMohale
@SnowmanMohale 5 жыл бұрын
ok. and it belongs to you ?
@stumbo_3230
@stumbo_3230 5 жыл бұрын
Snow k, South Africa belongs to all South Africans
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
@@SnowmanMohale Yes. It actually was won in war by white people. It was traded and bought. Yes it belongs to us 200years before any Bantu was ever seen. Goodbye uneducated person. Go learn history child
@vik4741
@vik4741 5 жыл бұрын
Lol last time I checked, khoisan people are black and African you idiot
@theoholmes8471
@theoholmes8471 5 жыл бұрын
@@vik4741 KoiSan is not black. They have a light brown complexion but uneducated people like you won't accept facts. You know what is black - go to your origins in East Africa and you will see black like you. There is different tribes for obvious reasons. You just too uneducated to comprehend facts.
@victorious1ne
@victorious1ne 5 жыл бұрын
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