Dad Frames 9yo Daughter For Murder, Then Does The Unthinkable To Prove It

[@charlieb1976]

The way the daughter was groomed is so disgusting. She needs years of therapy.

[@Amber-yq9ee]

Exactly! That's similar to what I was coming to comment! My stomach was in knots & I was 🤢 listening to those parts where he turned a little girl against those that loved her for his own selfish greed! He is a devious pile of 💩! & Really I truly hope she gets some serious therapy to undo ALL that brain washing he did! Idk whether I'm really surprised that she was STILL sticking up for him even after he tried to frame her for murder!

[@charrielyn1231]

Yes, absolutely VILE. I assume all these children that support the one parent that killed their other parent either cannot face the truth, are scared of them & fear retaliation, are brainwashed - or any possible combination of the three.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Nah, the moment she realised her dad is the biggest loser in history, it would be over.

[@ladydeerheart1]

She will need decades of therapy and decades more for healing.

[@asyadivine4027]

​@@Amber-yq9eeshe probably suffers from Stockholm Syndrome if you don't know what it is just Google it This is horrendous on every level 💀⚰️😒

[@deborahdonovan7892]

Wow. Even IF by some chance he DIDNT murder his wife he should be put away permanently for the damage he’s done to his kids. Telling his daughter how to break her hymen so that she can frame her grandfather for sexual abuse? So gross, so disgusting.

[@samanthafairweather9186]

The fact that she had no problem with framing her grandfather in that way shows she's her father's daughter.

[@hnichole]

@@samanthafairweather9186 Or it shows that she's been lied to, manipulated, and brainwashed because she was a *child* - and as children, you get your understanding of the world through the adults that raise you. With someone like Rod for a parent, yeah, no wonder this poor girl was willing to do whatever he asked. She even said she didn't want to disappoint him, showing that there's a lot of complex factors you're not taking into account with your nasty comment. Don't be disgusting.

[@ProfNDKai]

⁠@@samanthafairweather9186yh broooo don’t be so gross This is probs why his parents are so diligent in how they are with the Shelley’s kid’s post her death - fear that they will turn out anything like their demonic son You realise that’s like saying if he had SA’d the daughter it would say something about her character…. Consent and the ability to consent don’t just end at smexual azzult

[@rukisghost]

@@hnichole you're saying the same thing she did, just adding the explanation as to why. No matter how sad it is that a child was completely ruined by her own father she should be treated as a liar/idiot who refuses to acknowledge reality and a dangerous person to have any contact with. When your dad breaks your leg you belong in a hospital even though it wasn't your fault. When your dad breaks your brain you need to go to an asylum, it's a social necessity and not a punishment. How would you feel about hearing that your son or brother just set up a date with her, or just moved her into their home, or is flying to a foreign country with her?

[@ximar0ckstrx]

​@@hnicholeyes, she was a child... but she is now an adult. While her mental health issues are not her fault, they are now her responsibility. She IS responsible for not seeking the help she clearly needs and she IS responsible for defending her degenerate father for killing her mother.

[@sparkfadingspark]

The fact that his daughter is so determined that her father is innocent is honestly so sad. Not only is his guilt obvious, it is even more plainly obvious that he doesn't give a rats ass about her and would see her hurt or imprisoned for his own freedom and access to her mother's money! She has been so brainwashed to "not disappoint daddy". Honestly a very tragic case.

[@JR-lw3ms]

Not sad! At this point it's disgusting!

[@FLo-jc7ig]

He probably got the money through his daughter to pay his legal fees.... And what about his parents? I thought I heard somewhere that they don't believe their son is guilty. Hope I heard wrong😢

[@pshaw8406]

This is so heartbreaking and soul-crushing.

[@lililijo]

​@@FLo-jc7igthey probably don't want to admit it due to the potential loss of social status.

[@tasmaniandevil7610]

I'm sure she loves her daddy or to put it more in context she's in love with her daddy , like they say some like to control and some like to be controlled hahaha 😂

[@starrkittie1897]

geez, that monster completely has that girl brainwashed... she was told to assault herself and blame her grandfather, and STILL she thinks that monster is innocent...she really needs intense therapy

[@nicolewagner6549]

He is already convicted based on evidence. That means his daughter's testimony would make him angry for nothing. Shes probably afraid he will frame her for something worse.

[@hnichole]

I've seen a lot of true crime content, some of it quite gruesome, and having experienced a lot of my own trauma, not much gets to me physically. But reading that letter actually made me physically nauseous. For a father to do that to his child is so utterly disgusting and depraved, it really gives insight to how there is no cap on how low he would go to get his way, even at the cost of his child's wellbeing. Having been abused as a child, I can't imagine what he kinds of things he lied to her about behind closed doors or how badly he must have manipulated her. I have so much compassion for her.

[@alwa6954]

@@nicolewagner6549 She made statements independent of the trial. She didn't need to make any public statements. She still wants to please daddy. She still believes daddy is a good man despite everything. She's in denial.

[@marolynbriggs1878]

Definitely ​@@alwa6954

[@haroot.azarian]

Stockholm syndrome

[@suehackett9621]

It’s sad that the daughter has not gotten the professional counseling she desperately needs to become a healed young woman. She is a victim of a narcissistic psychopath who claims to be her father.

[@TheQueenOfSheba]

Yup. It’s horrifying. He really groomed her.

[@aldastroud9671]

She is just like her dad, she's a adult, daughter of a criminal, and even after everything he done to her and her grandparents... She's evil, just not brave enough to carry on the plan...

[@DrAnderson1]

@@aldastroud9671- I don’t know that it’s fair to call her “evil.” She’s just another victim of her father. He had the availability & the time to devote to making her believe his lies. She was a victim when he tried to frame her for murder; when he tried to convince her to murder her own grandmother; and she’s still his victim today, she just doesn’t understand the extent to which he has gone to pervert her memories of him, and her memories surrounding the events which landed him in prison. That doesn’t make *HER* evil……it makes her a young woman who was robbed of her mother at a very young age, and whose manipulative & deceptive father spent years convincing her of his innocence at the hands of a corrupt & lazy criminal justice system - which she desperately wanted to believe, because it’s more palatable than having to believe the truth. Her father stole her family from her….then he framed her for the consequences. She certainly doesn’t want to believe that her father is the evil monster who orchestrated the most painful events of her life…..and he’s been able to convince her that he’s innocent. Believing him doesn’t make her evil….it’s sad. It’s just one more way her father is evil. And it’s one more thing he’s taken from her. She’s just still his victim. That doesn’t make her evil.

[@jessicafeatherston2172]

And a victim of sexual abuse ... Her father telling her how to break the hyman😮

[@redpillgirl1843]

So true

[@rbffbvs]

That daughter needs some serious therapy. He told her to frame her grandfather for rape, and the horror of that should have been enough to realize who he was. Then he actually tried to frame her for the murder, and she still stands by him? Bewildering.

[@isaacmaskey468]

Ok the dads bad but how do you know her grandfather didn't do anything I mean if her dad can brainwash her why can't grandpa

[@audrahartman4212]

He not only murdered his wife he also killed any heart or soul that his daughter had 😢

[@julianmayo5650]

No he didn't her her soul, no man or woman can ever take your soul, or kill it, only ones self can get rid of his or her own soul

[@AngelaMStovall]

​@@julianmayo5650I'm quite sure they didn't mean in a literal sense based on a biblical narrative 🙄. Plus, how do you know anything to so confidently state your opinion with such finality.

[@JeanyyBee]

@@julianmayo5650you would be surprised. How do you think narcissists and sociopaths are born.

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

Hopefully not!

[@freudianslippers6567]

@@julianmayo5650 A soul is different things to different people/cultures. A soul doesn't always mean abrahamic religious, sometimes people mean essence, mana or spirit.

[@tluangingente]

How did Debra just go along with it? She’s a mother of 3 and didn’t hesitate to give the letter to the daughter knowing what was written. It just destroyed the daughter mentally even more.

[@MikeD-tf7dk]

It’s easy to see when not in the middle of it.

[@alanrcastro8580]

@@MikeD-tf7dk yeah because framing someone for rape is something that totally could have a justification.

[@frankthetank8050]

I just came on here to say that Rods plan to dress up as a black man complete with a wig, pretending to be a surveyor and kill his mom with a single karate chop to the throat, is next level insane

[@lisadixon8087]

OMG I'm at that part right now. I actually laughed when I read your comment, cz I thought you'd made it up! Bloody hell! 😮

[@lettiegrant9447]

An insane person doesn't know what he's doing This man planned what he did so he knew exactly what he was doing. Smart enough to think he could get away with the crime if he got a black man blamed for it. That's not insanity that's just evil. Another " Susan Smith" story who blamed a black man for kidnapping her kids when she had already killed them. Sad.

[@Fiona_Interrupted]

It’s like something from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@TahtahmesDiary]

@@Fiona_InterruptedRacism often is the level of insane that IASIP reaches. People just don’t like to explain it to this depth because they will always come off looking batshit and stupid.

[@juliehay]

It's really sad that the Daughter cannot accept what her father has done, shocking case. What an arsehole to do all that. Shocking.

[@stephanielloyd4053]

Listening to HIS parents trying to protect the kids from their insane father was eye opening! Those poor kids.

[@looneyyang1326]

For once, these parents are good parents and not claiming their son's innocence.

[@kaurkuldip140]

They were probably blinded by the grandchildren being beneficiaries of their moms millions

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

I was shocked by that! It was very refreshing to hear the stable rational of his parents. Most probably, his narcissistic ways had been there for them to see for years.

[@yvie914]

​@@kaurkuldip140- you're ridiculous but then again, there always has to be someone to post the opposite of what's so obvious just to start drama

[@anonygrazer3234]

@@kaurkuldip140 "They were probably blinded by the grandchildren being beneficiaries of their moms millions" Just because you would, doesn't mean their grandparents did.

[@Bunny11344]

They were prob sick of him plus he unalived an innocent woman idc what anyone saids but how much ur love your kid.. your son/daughter is a terrible person if they ever unalive anyone

[@jomc20]

What that man did to his daughter is unforgivable! She's clearly messed up for life. The children are victims, too, in these cases, losing both patents because of the wickedness of one.

[@lindanolan9542]

What a creep. They should have figured out a charge to throw at him for what he’s done to his daughter. Reading the letter outlining what she was to do to herself to support the case of rape against her grandfather was truly sickening.

[@natasha83196]

And knowing that he tried to frame his own father, it’s hard to understand how she still supports him.

[@adjustableWench]

@@natasha83196 thats what i was going to say - its almost as sickening to see how she still thinks he could have nothing to do with this, much less think its ok to try to frame her grandad for something he never would have done - how would they have explained no dna present for the so called rape

[@anonymouse9833]

Seems like child abuse to me

[@alicewonder0]

​@wright1985 ummmm don't think that's a good comparison

[@llort42]

Manufacturing "creep" charges would be a violation of Rods basic human rights. Don't you think daughter has endured plenty? She must FURTHER endure Rods blight on the family tree for the rest of her days. Daughter needs a reason to keep positive, else the proverbial bud has been nipped. Putting her through further torment regarding this family tragedy is by definition, cruel and unusual.

[@jennyc5037]

All this because he didn't want to work.

[@hater9irl]

For real.

[@kwazimokava]

The fact that rods own parents knew his horrid behaviour and tried their best to protect those kids while informing them good things about their mother and the evil their father was doing.

[@normLoue]

these people are animals

[@StillFab44]

The son no doubt lied and manipulated his parents as well as everyone else.

[@kwazimokava]

@@StillFab44 yes but I think the parents saw his ego trip ways and they knew he was a monster but because they raised and birthed it it was hard for them to confront the monster in their son

[@ladonnaramirez4467]

Dude didn't deserve the air he breathed.

[@jeannetteviviers9851]

Oxygen thief

[@lexiaaforever437]

I feel so bad for his daughter. She’s been brainwashed really bad. Out of all the things he’s done to her she’s still on his side when she should be breaking the cycle & getting serious treatment . I hope one day she’ll realize what’s happened to her & seek the proper counseling

[@libra7.063]

I feel like she'll become a psychopath if not already. Sorry to say but she's so brainwashed and she not being in therapy is scary. Someone needs to keep tabs on her bc she might do what her father taught her. I definitely would not want her to be my daughter-in-law.

[@zilawylde7006]

She's brainwashed by their evil man.

[@pattimaeda6097]

Shame on her 😡😡😡😡😡

[@darrenford3036]

The daughter has turned into a mini me him

[@ginnas944]

​@@libra7.063I was thinking the same thing

[@neishanicole740]

If he was innocent, he wouldn't have ever felt the need to frame his own daughter. I hope she gets the counseling she needs. 🙏🏽

[@TBlack-dz5bo]

How does the daughter reconcile what he asked her to do to frame her grandfather? There’s no ambiguity there, he gave her detailed instructions. I know she was groomed and brainwashed, but at some point, maybe alone and in quiet contemplation, you’d think she’d come to realize what a sick bastard he is.

[@k_j_n1242]

💯💯💯

[@NKdidit.24]

SHE WAS A CHILD!!!! HELLO!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE BRAINWASHED BY A PARENT

[@AmericanCitizen-nf9xc]

It’s a time place be that it may. Dropping cognitive receptors in my opinion is an ace up your sleeve when dealing with matters of the heart. Go now and make my word known. Praise Allah and Jesus for he is your Devine interpreter. Shall thy be known. 22:47

[@JR-lw3ms]

@@NKdidit.24 She's not a child anymore! There is no excuse for her to still support her weasel father!

[@NKdidit.24]

@@JR-lw3ms you've obviously never been brainwashed by a parent and know nothing about psychology.!

[@Magna_Carta5]

My gosh, what has he done to his daughter? Does she really believe him? Even after he plotted to kill his own parents with her, planned to marry her off at 14 just to get his hands on more money. I wonder about her and her continued indignant defense of him, the way she seemingly never told in the midst of it all that her dad wanted to kill her grandparents…. I also just feel bad for her. Poor kids half a chance died with her mother.

[@sutherngirrl7590]

Hell NO, I don't think he's innocent!! He's despicable! It speaks volumes that his own parents took their DIL's side over their own son. I truly hope his daughter realizes before he's released. Otherwise he'll come after his own kids in hopes of acquiring their wealth.

[@AngelaMStovall]

Why would this monster ever get out, disgusting 😤❗️💩❗️

[@donnahilton471]

Yep!

[@quinn220]

When, and if, that happens, she will be in danger. And if she has children, they will be too. Horrifying.

[@samanthafairweather9186]

There is no money. It was used on his lawyers. His daughter and son paid for the best lawyers for him.

[@bjdlvr]

Shele got a keratin hair treatment that day, so taking a late night bath and getting her hair wet would have been out of the question. Elle Woods: "The rules of hair care are simple and finite."

[@kilangimti]

Absolutely correct💯💯😂😂

[@mischarowe]

I thought of that immediately too. :)

[@tanyaedwards4574]

Manipulative, conniving, narcissistic con artist who clearly has *no* feeling towards other human beings.The fact that his daughter was willing to do whatever he told her to do, is beyond disturbing. Imagine her once the shoe drops. God send her good people to help her heal.

[@amandagardner565]

sadly it's entirely possible she is her fathers daughter, in as much as she may be a sociopath just like dear ole daddy.

[@PerlaOC]

🙏🏻 I pray that she heals and sees his dad for what he is.

[@meganbaute4254]

@@amandagardner565why do I keep seeing these comments bashing on a 9 year old girl? She was 9 years old when this happened at that age you don’t even know what sex is. We should have a bit more empathy and understanding for this girl who has been abused by her father from birth.

[@personincognito3989]

9 year old should definitely have been taught. What sex is. I knew about it long before then​@@meganbaute4254

[@s.cecilia-1292]

Follwing true crime for over 10 years now and recently discoverd this channel. This is so informing and calm in a respectfull way, without all that over the top drama. Big fan!

[@deborahsevigny4763]

He is not innocent. And he screwed up his daughter big time, but she was a teenager when he sent that message to this day still believes he's innocent. That tells me she can't be trusted.

[@chelsealavaya7263]

​@thewestcoastwizard1wth 😂😂😂

[@alwa6954]

She and the cucumber have been very happy together ever since and she has her father to thank for that.

[@Sweetthang9]

THIS.....this is why you don't marry someone you just met.....

[@Frost123JD]

That guy is truly evil. His daughter needs psychiatric help.

[@opo3628]

There's no doubt that Anna was love-bombed, groomed, and brainwashed by her father...but quite honestly, with Anna vehemently defending her father even now that she's an adult despite the clear and overwhelming evidence against him, and the fact that she was very nearly a willing participant in one of his evil, twisted schemes, and she undoubtedly remembers it...I honestly wouldn't be *at all* surprised if she herself eventually ends up in prison for committing a heinous crime. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, as they say.

[@hnichole]

I don't know why people keep assuming that an entire childhood of manipulation and conditioning magically goes away when you become an adult.

[@maximos905]

She has cognitive dissonance

[@oldcollegecoed]

I don’t believe he’s human…he’s a soulless, heartless monster who doesn’t deserve to breathe fresh air again!

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

Inhuman is the perfect description of this psychopath. What he did to his wife was 1st degree murder. He plotted to off his own parents and he groomed and brainwashed his own daughter in the most despicable ways possible. He does not feel empathy like humans do. Psychopaths have no humanity in them whatsoever.

[@Polyphemus47]

Stop it.@thewestcoastwizard1

[@normLoue]

these people are genetically evil.

[@mlisaj1111]

He unfortunately is human. One in a 100, or whatever, have no sense of guilt or empathy…,ruining other people’s lives, seeing a hurt animal, etc. would mean nothing to them, and they are puzzled why others would be bothered by that. These people aren’t always criminals, many understand they risk jail time if they commit crimes…but many are, with no remorse.

[@rebeccazegstroo6786]

Poor daughter! So manipulated by her father.

[@annsam2111]

What an unbelievably gross, evil, no good narcopath.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

He was a toxic narcissopath and a demon. Or is it narcissopsychopath. Narcopath is easier to remember though.

[@Godisgood173]

I can tell you that children’s memory recall can be messed up by the lies of a guilty parent. My ex husband convinced my young children that I used to hit him and that I was the abusive one. When I realised what he was doing I was so hurt and angry that my son believed him, that I told my son the truth when he was older. The trouble with liars is that they find it hard to recall details always the same, the truth never changes. I think he messed with his kids heads so much he’s convinced his daughter to his innocence. But you would have thought that she would have used her common sense with him trying to kill his own parents and to frame his father for abusing her! I think she’s in denial, deeply. I feel sorry for her, her father has completely destroyed her life and she can’t see it.

[@Varkalis1]

My niece was murdered by her soon to be ex-husband when she was eight months pregnant. Her surviving two children still have contact with their father in prison and his parents. Look up Stacy and David Green. It's pretty bad.

[@vaska1999]

That must be so hard for your family.

[@zainabtariq4208]

I'm so sorry for ur family may she rest in poeer

[@TheTaurean]

The thing that makes your channel amazing is that you give updates after the sentencing. That's your secret sauce and why your channel is one of my new favorites. Keep up the great work!

[@sonjaheck3156]

An example of a really accomplished woman falling for someone who is SO below her in every single way. OMG this guy is the worst. Poor wife and poor daughter. Girlfriend was definitely involved (obvious by how all messages from that day were deleted) but I think the cops had to kind of make a deal with the devil to get him in the end. I can't even imagine how she stayed with him so long.

[@sonjaheck3156]

also, even though a judge can exclude something, these days I think any juror would research the case on their own. How can you not? Lastly - how infuriating that the cops would just take his word and not even secure the scene or get DNA. I read another article and the family had a rabbi clean that bathroom completely the day after the murder. He said it was Jewish custom and the cops just let him in - no questions asked. Lastly, i understand the daughter was manipulated by her evil dad, but how could she still support him after her dad asked her to fake a rape? I would think that would be the AHA moment for her.

[@lisadixon8087]

​@@wright1985I'm doing the same at the moment. It definitely a very complicated case. He has no bounds at all! 😡

[@charrielyn1231]

@@wright1985 The “Stockholm Syndrome” perhaps

[@staciespur8293]

​@@wright1985I believe what you're talking about is Stockholm Syndrome.

[@donnahilton471]

Scorned woman! Interesting, did she dump him?

[@lindabarrett5631]

What this man wanted his daughter to do to herself to frame her own grandfather...there are no words.

[@jimhenderson387]

This case is so disturbing in so many ways. It seems every time you think you've seen the most despicable human ever, you watch a story like this and conclude that maybe this guy is the most despicable. I also wonder what on earth is going through his daughter's mind.

[@chrisprescott2273]

This is absolutely the most diabolical evil plot I've ever heard. The fact that it's a true story is insane. It's hard to accept how people can be so vile and inhuman.

[@minxthedog2769]

The family wont allow an autopsy but hire a private investigator to find out what happened. Thats messed up

[@Ilene.s]

Some very conservative factions of Judaism don't believe in autopsies and because his father was a Rabbi makes me think that they are a part of that bunch. They are very misogynistic and don't even let their kids play with other Jewish children because they think everyone is wrong if they are not in their cult. It's really quite nuts.

[@aromaladyellie]

@@Ilene.s babe it's not that complicated. Jewish faith in general call for a body to be buried in under 24 hours after death so the soul can go to heaven as soon as possible. The mouring process also begins after burial in Judaism. It's not that hard to understand. The only reason they didn't allow an autopsy was because she needed to be buried in 24 hours. That's why the narrator specifically mentioned the 24 hour thing.

[@chiworldwide119]

no autopsy but exhumed to get one in the end is crazy.

[@qweeknee4208]

I agree. What a loss of evidence which resulted in the next crime. Sheesh.

[@wilpri]

Religion is outrageous BULLSHIT and so-called smart people do absurd and awful things in its name.

[@hsuanlin0227]

I feel so sorry and sad for his daughter . After he tried to frame her for murder , how can’t she sees what he really is ?

[@sushanart]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. If he gets out he'll do the same thing again. He should be locked up for life as not to hurt anybody else, including his children.

[@kaykepop4084]

His parents held him accountable on his b.s.! They knew their son and never tried to make him out to be nothing more than what he is, a MONSTER! I just wish the girlfriend and daughter had told the grandparents and authorities. Thankfully he wasn't able to follow through on it! It surprises me that his daughter continues to support her father. If she just thought about how easy it was for him to plan the murder of his own parents, how easily he planned to frame his own father of r@pe, and how he alone setup to frame her (his own daughter) of the wife's murder that he very well had something to do with killing her mother. Why would he need to frame anyone if he had nothing to do with the crime? She needs to accept the fact he's pure evil.

[@runninggirl2765]

Why did she refer to her mother as "Shele?" I believe this is her father's influence. So sad for the young lady-I hope she can get the grip on what her father truly is.

[@t.d108]

That poor daughter is so desperate for love. If she does not get in depth psychological help, she will NEVER have a decent life and - worse case scenario - might snap and commit the deadly harm to his parents that her father wanted her to do, seriously. 🙁

[@chris-in-oceania]

What a pity Shelle's family objected to the autopsy. Didn't take them long to have serious doubts about Rod. I had to listen to it twice because the kids were placed with HIS parents and listening to the tapes made by Rod's girlfriend, the fierce loyalty they showed to Shelle spoke volumes! The girlfriend is an interesting character, helping construct the various plots and simultaneously copying data about the plots, and claiming later to have tried to undermine them, while also simultaneously continuing the romantic thyst. She would have done anything to keep him but wanted evidence to protect herself later? Rod should have put his creative imagination to work writing crime novels and become independent.

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

The girlfriend should have been charged, too. She could have gone to the police at anytime, but didn't - not until after they had broken up. Also, she had deleted the texts between her and Rod around the time of Shele's murder. I wouldn't be surprised if she was in on her death.

[@Ad-Lo]

Too much work for him.

[@SHIR0GANE]

i feel like she didnt care if he kills his own parents, and she just wanted to get some dirt on him in case he dumps her etc. as soon as they broke up, she took her revenge..

[@mmestari]

"The girlfriend is an interesting character, helping construct the various plots and simultaneously copying data about the plots, and claiming later to have tried to undermine them, while also simultaneously continuing the romantic thyst. She would have done anything to keep him but wanted evidence to protect herself later?" She's maybe has dark triad personality too. Maybe Machiavellian, always covering all angles. But also she could have been afraid what the guy would do to her and her children, and she couldn't get out of the relationship, until he dumped her.

[@mmestari]

"The girlfriend should have been charged, too. " She probably did a plea bargain.

[@juliaszybowicz7709]

😢 It's so unbelievably sad that his daughter has been so brainwashed. I pray and hope she finds the strength to seek an excellent therapist to help her unpack all of the trauma and its aftereffects. One day perhaps she can face the monster 💀 disguised as her "Dad" & realize the devil 😈 in him and, with her head held high, allow her mother's spirit to shine and walk away, forever, from that horrific rabid monster.

[@see-rious-ley]

The nasty ex-girlfriend is just as culpable. Had they not broken up, she’d still keep this secret. 🤢🤮

[@DarlinReal]

I agree. If they had remained together she would have never gone to the cops.

[@kristy3041]

I agree and she should definitely be charged as well because she definitely had her part in his malicious behavior

[@Adelicows]

Maybe she wanted to be on his good side because was afraid for her life- she certainly knew what he was capable of. People who assume that they know what someone else thinks and feels are just 🤢🤮🤮

[@asaintpi]

So sad that his daughter turned out to be exactly like her monstrous dad. Like he did, she will place the blame for his heinous acts on anyone other than him, rather than face the obvious truth of his guilt. And not a word of compassion or respect for her dead Mom, how shameful!

[@charlieb1976]

This is just sickening

[@laurablassberg8559]

Agreed

[@afri2304]

The ex-girlfriend, being a grown-up woman, how could she even give a letter like that to a kid and cause her more grief It's ridiculous, she should have gone to the police with it, the first thing. Its horrible to think how she kept all these secrets up until she broke up with the pshyco!

[@MaryAnnRodrigues]

Thank you!! I was like huh you guys broke up and suddenly there's information for the police? Like he wasn't already a cancer to everyone for years. She's just as guilty - she knew the bastard. Then again, she was also a married woman of 3 kids with a married man too. My goodness, everyone's morals are trash

[@afri2304]

@@MaryAnnRodrigues exactly!

[@bouncyshak]

This is great proof for the existence of psychopaths. His parents were not enablers like you see so often with these murderous creeps and they actually held him accountable, which I respect, even though it put them at risk. Makes you think his mentality was down to nature more than nurture. I wonder if his daughter is the same way.

[@sawsanalh2802]

His daughter is too emotionally dependent and loyal to her father without gain for herself to be put in the same category as him. I think he manipulated and gaslit her and she's in too deep.

[@danielleterese402]

I am just not understanding how his daughter can think her father is so INNOCENT, especially after him telling her to spike her gparenters tea. Or breaking her h*men & saying her grandfather r*ped her!!? Does she not know about the draft he planted in her email??! Her father is beyond despicable. I guess if u want something soo badly to not be true, & tell yourself over & over that it is not-u will eventually believe it. I think the saying "Ignorance is bliss" was thought up specifically for Anna"!!! Beyond heartbreaking 💔😞 My heart goes out to Anna's loved ones, Rods parents, & definitely Anna & Myles. May they find peace, & happiness. ❤❤❤

[@kellyc6380]

I’ve never understood the kind of evil when parents have their children “find” the dead body 😢 This story is so sad. I hope the family have found peace 🙏😇🌻

[@jo444m]

The daughter is in denial. She doesn't want to believe that her father could do that to her mother and to her. 😢

[@Randomperson16-q4j]

Why didn’t his girlfriend go to the police sooner with the recordings and the photos of the letter? Oh my goodness 🙄

[@joelsommer5765]

Because she was still with him so she still was an accomplice. She was only worried about getting revenge with him after he broke up with her.

[@jpage813]

Between my fascination with true crime and my love of Law & Order SVU, I’ve heard some pretty messed up scenarios, but the DETAILED instructions he left his daughter almost made me vomit. That is SICK. He is a true sociopath. No conscious, no remorse, pure evil.

[@99subigt]

As soon as I heard the daughter say that she didn't wanna disappoint daddy, it kinda sounds like she had Stockholm syndrome. That's why until this day, she protects her dad.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

I remember this story.... It was horrific. The audacity and delusion of this man is next level unimaginable. He had no backbone and was jealous of his ex-wife for something he cannot provide himself.

[@priscamolotsi]

What a despicable father 😫!

[@elizethompson8627]

He is not a father, he is a monster

[@pierrettehotte773]

I fear this monster’s daughter has inherited her father’s bad genes…I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear in the near future his bad influence he has on his daughter … what an evil man…a real psychopath.

[@pisces2569]

This isn’t genetics. This is grooming, manipulation, and trauma. She’s desperate for daddy’s love not mommy’s money.

[@jh4803]

Deborah should have gone to the police with all the evidence she had earlier...

[@dawnsites4232]

She is evil, too. Why was staying in the relationship? She was involved in the wife's death. Despicable person.

[@LadyIarConnacht]

@@dawnsites4232 Without her, it would have been a lot worse.

[@danarzechula3769]

Ya think??

[@gd3741]

My guess is she was worried it wouldn't be enough and wanted to insure it make sure he went down for it

[@scarletamazon3455]

@@gd3741 Nah. She held onto that evidence for YEARS. She read that disgusting letter he wrote to his daughter and still just handed it over to the poor girl. She could have taken that straight to the police then and there. She's just as culpable as he is, stayed with this soulless monster for YEARS, likely for whatever money she could also syphon off and because she's as sick as he is, but saved evidence she could use against him if the cops came after the pair of them. Remember he was having an affair with her while his wife was still alive, and she also deleted her messages with him the night of her murder. She's covering for herself too.

[@AidenLS]

12:52 is the most cooked up plan I have ever heard in my whole time on this earth.

[@AidenLS]

nevermind they are all cooked up. this dudes a lunatic.

[@EarleyDaysYet]

How badly Anna’s head must be twisted from all this gaslighting.

[@jendee1260]

she’s delusional to top it off.

[@citizencr4o]

he stole so much money from his daughter and she still tries to defend him, I feel so bad for her.

[@fubarusdilligaficus3096]

That poor gaslit young woman, I truly hope she heals someday. If she knows she didn't write that confession letter, she has to know he tried to frame her. It hurts the heart. I get not wanting to lose both parents but he's the bad guy here, kiddo.

[@elaexplorer]

Probably thinks the police wrote it to frame her father as someone who would frame her

[@onyx_mango]

i hope anna gets the therapy she needs and deserves to undo all the awful brainwashing. there are no words to describe how despicable that man is. i also hope myles has gotten therapy because a childhood like that is not easy at all.

[@Lerkero]

19:53 - we better watch out for this daughter. She seems dangerous if still supporting her father after all this

[@JR-lw3ms]

YES!

[@corinnekelley8133]

She needs help. She has been abused.

[@ShrodingersHat]

She's trauma bonded and probably has Stockholm Syndrome too.... She needs help not hate.

[@vaska1999]

​@@corinnekelley8133She needs to want to get help. Until then, she's a danger to others because she hasn't developed a basic moral sense, a developmental arrestation she shares with psychopaths.

[@snrnsjd]

Trauma bonded-yes. But it is too late . She is who she is

[@koopey]

I am so done with people

[@ladydeerheart1]

It may take decades before she's able to admit her father did everything he's accused of.

[@TherealChasity]

He tried to frame her for her mother's murder & she's still on his side!! Crazy

[@suzieb8366]

RIP Shele, strength and prayers for the children and loved ones.

[@bonnemoms5413]

So the medical examiner is telling you she was murdered and it really needs an autopsy, NO ONE allowed this not even in court!? No one gets buried that fast. That's nuts! Tell me someone at least got reprimanded for this?? That's nuts to me.

[@mamabear52]

Those adult children need to see the evidence that was not presented in court, recall how their father wanted to frame his own father with the most horrific of crimes, get help, seek therapy. Not to mention that their mom left the money for the children, not to support their dead beat dad

[@AndiLawson27]

Why does the daughter stand by him?!?! This is sick!

[@lkb-il8iy]

Who knows what her father had told her? He’s a sociopath.

[@duvessa2003]

What is incredibly sad is the way the daughter tries to defend her father. I guess the loss of both parents is too much for her and she needs to believe that her father didn’t murder her mother. all of that man’s actions pointto a parasitic lifestyle.

[@shellydorai-raj1322]

Rod managed to find his perfect companion in Debra. She helped him with everything, she is just as despicable as he is. She spent their whole relationship compiling evidence - knowing she would use it when she decided she “needed” to. She only turned on him once they broke up. It’s a shame she didn’t end up in prison as well.

[@keris81]

I’m thoroughly impressed with his parents.

[@normLoue]

why, his father spent a million dollar to deprive her parents from their grandchildren. his father is just as evil in my opinion.

[@dawnsites4232]

What happened to Rod? He found evil somehow. He is so creepy!

[@deviousredneck5109]

Debra did great things while testifying against him. I can’t understand giving her the letter her father sent. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lisadixon8087]

Ive not heard all the story yet, but i cant believe that her family wouldnt agree to an autopsy after the medical examiner said he/she suspected foul play! I know people have religious beleifs, but the law should be able to intervene in such circumstances. Luckily they exhumed her but she really should have only been buried once. Just had to say that before i finished listening. Another great video AtoZ! ❤

[@Ethericrose]

Those were my thoughts too. Religion should not be a factor when crime needs to be solved.

[@Sheila-uy1pi]

your in shock feel numb shortly after a loved one death you do not make the best decisions ! at my husbands funeral a relative of his stole $$ from cards people gave me to help with expenses i didn’t realize the money was gone until the people who gave me the $$ inquired about it because I didn’t thank them!! can u imagine !!

[@Ad-Lo]

@@Sheila-uy1pi😮

[@VeeAmericanEagle]

@@Sheila-uy1piomg that’s so sad!!!!!!

[@lisadixon8087]

@@Sheila-uy1pi omg Sheila that's awful! 😯☹️ I'm so sorry that happened to you! That must have hurt you so much, especially with it being a relative who stole from you at such a hard time. That's unforgivable. And Yes I do understand what you mean now I've seen your comment. It's hard making a decision under stress. Thanks. Take care Sheila.😊

[@yellowpillpeople4745]

this man messed his daughter up for life and she desperately needs help.

[@daynatorngren7699]

She believes her father did NOT. She’s just as crazy as her father. Sad.

[@HisChild099]

She’s just as crazy as a psychopathic murderer because she was abused and manipulated for being innocent? Wow

[@nobodymatters3294]

She is crazy. Her brain broke the minute she found her mother in that bathtub. That's a desperate kind of crazy.

[@krystieanastasiou6632]

I love the fact that the keratins treatment rule has been applied

[@CK8smallville]

So many disturbed people in this story.

[@tabathagibson6314]

This is so sad! He has damaged his children in so many ways. To lie, cheat, steal, and murder for his selfish, narcissistic self worth. His parents should be happy he is in jail. Because he is so evil, that at some point he probably would have murdered the parents, and children for the money. My prayers are with the mother’s family. And friends. She was too good for this dead beat! May God bless and help these children to find the truth . Heartbreaking!!

[@FullTimePatient37]

Whenever I hear they get married quickly... I'm scared..😢

[@juliegarcia2077]

Some has to be really wrong with you when no one, not even your parents, want nothing to so with you…

[@mackztynne]

This monster's parents should stay away from their granddaughter, I think she's a monster in the making. She's old enough to know the right from wrong but still on her dad's side.

[@MyLadyPanda]

His parents are just as bad. They PAID to get custody of the kids so Shele's family couldn't have them. They turned the kids against her family. If anything happens to them, they helped facilitate it.

[@hnichole]

You're not taking into account that she was raised with a different standard of right and wrong than most people are. She was a child back when all of this was happening; that training and conditioning doesn't magically go away just because you become an adult, dude. She needs professional help

[@RobertHenderson.poopiebear]

I LOVE this channel! Great work on these horrible cases. I love how they report with class and respect for the victims. Well done guys.

[@NikkiRhodeen]

Imagine spending $1,000,000, to get custody of your grandkids to only discover that one of them was plotting to falsely accuse you of rape! Not surprised that the daughter is so vocal in her defense of her rotten father. She sounds like she’s a lot like him. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@er-ha]

I mean, she was clearly manipulated by her father during many of her formative years. Her brain literally developed according to how she was being made to act. It’s not hard to believe that she still thinks what he did was right/for a good cause, etc.; she hasn’t been to therapy, she is literally still in the same place she was as a child-and that is under her father’s thumb. There’s a lot of rewiring of the brain that needs to happen there but first she must accept that her father is awful, that he killed her mother, that he manipulated her into doing heinous things… That’s a very hard first step to overcome.

[@shay3519]

Along with being manipulated she lost her mother tragically and found her body!! Of course she’s going to want to hold on to her last remaining parent she was so young!!

[@cherrixx2639]

That girl lost her mother, found the body and after experiencing something so gruesome she spent all her formative years being groomed by her father. She isn't 'like' him, she wanted to be liked by him. That man was her world and he used that to manipulate her. So sad you'd rather blame her than see her get the help she needs

[@corinnekelley8133]

Why is no one saying anything about Debrah, the girlfriend, having all this evidence, collecting it, and only coming forward AFTER they broke up???

[@segsb7085]

​@@corinnekelley8133Exactly! She was going to let them frame the grandfather too!!!

[@Just_Smile-n2w]

Who is guiding this girl that she is still so convinced of her father’s innocence? How can she possibly believe that her father, the man who plainly wrote out how to fake a r*pe? She STILL doesn’t see how f-d up that is? Seriously makes me wonder if she hated her mother and/or was just in it for the money, too.

[@ArtemisUnderscoreJ]

“Let me tell you, the Danishefsky’s are NOT wrong.” 👀 Tell ‘em why you’re mad, Nana!!

[@IttyBitty412]

I'd go a step further and say she knew he killed her mom and they set it up that night and he told her own to act...

[@pozzee2809]

Sadly his daughter is still the “damaged, brainwashed” little girl, that her malicious, psychotic father made her. I hope she can finally get the help she needs to be deprogrammed ❤

[@sugarspice7768]

But she is no longer a little girl. She has access to all the information and evidence against her father. Her actions are all on her now.

[@maribeldeleon5323]

She's not brainwashed. She carries her father genes. She is like him. She is mean like him.

[@mooseing22]

I've grown to really like this channel. Informative, thorough and professional. The narration is also first class.

[@Alaryicjude]

I had heard this story before but never the full details of the r@pe accusation. Hfs... How the daughter can stand by him even as an adult is beyond me. She must really, fully still be under his spell and in his control. I've always *hated* the way they included Anna in their fighting in those recorded audio clips. It's just extra abuse by ALL of the so-called adults in her life. I guess it's no wonder she's still all f*cked up in the head.

[@kberry]

The age that she was when she was brainwashed should have allowed her in time with age to realise what her father had done even if she didn't realise initially.

[@Alaryicjude]

@@kberry, I do agree. But I also do have to consider that perhaps, especially as a child, she was too scared to lose both of her parents and subconsciously choose to side with her dad no matter what so she didn't "lose" him too...

[@hnichole]

@@Alaryicjude There were probably so many lies and manipulation, too. When you're 9, you don't have critical thinking skills to question if your dad tells you over and over again that everyone else is evil/wrong, and it's just you guys against everyone else. I had a very emotionally, verbally, and physically abusive parent who constantly pushed this narrative that "no one else cares about you," "I'm doing this because we can only count on ourselves," "everyone else will try to turn you against me," blah blah blah. And my childhood was nowhere near as extreme as this case, so I can't imagine how much worse it must have been for Anna behind closed doors. That kind of trauma takes professional help to rewire the biological and psychological foundations that have been laid.

[@MrSefiroh]

So glad I found this channel. So far the stories have been great. 👏👏👏

[@tomfreeman3640]

Awesome story telling. Gripping stuff. The attention to detail leaves no big questions unanswered. I'm gonna enjoy watching this channel grow. Already a huge subscriber base, but nothing compared to what's in store if you stick with this format. Thanks for all the hard work!!

[@KarenanneT]

I really like the A - Z narratives & the narrators voice. Very easy listening 👌

[@waynewright5023]

A man who is innocent of causing the death of his estranged wife does *NOT* make subsequent plans to kill his parents who have been granted custody of the children. Rather than trying to modify his conduct towards his parents so that he might be granted more visitation time with his kids, he instead planned to exploit one of his kids to murder his parents. For his son Miles, he had no concern or use (outside of his college fund). I think that the daughter knows this fact, but needs therapy..

[@vaska1999]

The daughter needs to want therapy.

[@caseyminett7394]

He has destroyed that little girl. She is beyond messed up and she will no doubt be in abusive relationships her whole life. This shit is sick.