Christopher R Browning Ordinary Men audiobook

"Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland" is Christopher R. Browning’s shocking account of how a unit of average middle-aged Germans became the cold-blooded murderers of tens of thousands of Jews-now with a new afterword and additional photographs.
Ordinary Men is the true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942. Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions. Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.
While this book discusses a specific Reserve Unit during WWII, the general argument Browning makes is that most people succumb to the pressures of a group setting and commit actions they would never do of their own volition.
Ordinary Men is a powerful, chilling, and important work with themes and arguments that continue to resonate today.

[@redlocks8780]

Chapter 1 16:24 Chapter 2 19:38 Chapter 3 31:48 Chapter 4 1:08:22 Chapter 5 1:31:57 Chapter 6 1:54:42 Chapter 7 2:07:16 Chapter 8 2:38:07 Chapter 9 2:52:41 Chapter 10 3:13:41 Chapter 11 3:30:50 Chapter 12 3:44:37 Chapter 13 4:05:59 Chapter 14 4:18:44 Chapter 15 4:42:44 Chapter 16 5:03:02 Chapter 17 5:09:34 Chapter 18 5:33:20 Afterword 6:44:34 Twenty-five Years Later 8:03:19

[@adog_6484]

you're breathtaking

[@SuperMariocankickass]

You are a great soul

[@Tarik360]

Thank you dude!

[@markmarji1119]

OMG thank you so much.

[@aliyahfriesen9725]

Wow you're a gem

[@SolzhenitsynBoogie]

I came here after finishing “Gulag Archipelago” by Solzhenitsyn. I’m slogging through Jordan Peterson’s reading list on audiobook while at work. My friends think I’m insane for listening to this grim stuff but I believe that we have to face the depths of chaos and evil of totalitarianism and fascistic evil or we won’t acknowledge that it could happen here by our own hands. It can happen here, but I won’t just march along with it keeping my head down. Identity politics is poison wether on the left or the right, but the leftists ability to convince themselves that they are acting from a place of compassionate moral superiority while otherizing and lashing out against anyone they disagree with is terrifying.

[@DadsAmazingAdventures]

Well done and it's a heavy read. Hope it is of assistance.

[@Ferda1964]

well, I wish more people were reminded of the cruelty humans can inflict on other humans , the very scary fact is that atrocities are committed just about daily somewhere around our planet , I am glad I found this book in audio version

[@Janovich]

You'll hear totally gullible ideologists mutter "If we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it" without having any historical knowledge themselves to begin with. (you'll hear it from the GQ interviewee for example, which is so damn ironic) I'm getting more and more convinced that learning about world war one is the best basis for the comprehension of horrific disasters throughout the 20th century.Think deportation and ethnical cleansing found their origin in Nazi Germany? Think again; it happened almost everywhere by everyone long before the Nazi's came into being. You shouldn't ascribe these things to one dictatorial fluke. The topic of World War Two is too partisan, and we are making a mistake to focus our school's historical educational groundwork on that. Teach World War One, it is the most disruptive military and societal reformative period ever, and a journey of horrific comprehension for all the other 20th century disasters will gradually follow.

[@skypimp3409]

@@Janovich iheart radio podcast dan carlins hardcore history. He does a 5 or 6 part serious on ww1 called blueprint for Armageddon its so deep like 20 something hours explaining every angle of ww1 from military to politics from all different countries. I listened to it and couldn't believe people know so little of ww1 it changed everything

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Well said

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

Read by Stefan Rudnicki 0:21 Preface 16:17 Ch 1 19:38 Ch 2 The Order Police 31:48 Ch 3 The Order Police and the Final Solution Russia 1941 1:08:21 Ch 4 The Order Police and Deportation 1:31:56 Ch 5 Reserve Police Battalion 101 1:54:42 Ch 6 Arrival in Poland 2:07:15 Ch 7 Initiation to Mass Murder 2:38:06 Ch 8 Reflections on a Massacre 2:52:41 Ch 9 The Descent of Second Company 3:13:42 Ch 10 The August Deportations to Treblinka 3:30:51 Ch 11 Late September Shootings 3:44:37 Ch 12 The Deportations Resume 4:05:59 Ch 13 The Strange Health of Captain Hoffman

[@duckLife24_7]

Not all hero’s wear capes … some put bookmarks in

[@stevenkenney8747]

Doing the lord's work

[@Youbetterbeprepping]

Chapter 7 - 2:07:14 Chapter 8 - 2:38:06 Chapter 9 - 2:52:38 Chapter 10 - 3:13:41 Chapter 11 - 3:30:47 Chapter 12 - 3:44:36

[@boiledwater62]

It’s so important that people hear this account. We all have the potential

[@Quimerreya]

Thank you for posting this. Horrifying proof of what any of us is definitely capable of when faced with such atrocities.

[@Gman941]

I remember my 7th grade History class tried reading this. We got through about 100 pages before someone went home and told their parents about the book. The next day, we went back to studying other works without mention of why we stopped reading this book. I remember asking why we stopped reading it. And the teacher said with her head down that it was "inappropriate for class". I remember saying that it is appropriate and should be required to read for everyone. Later, I found out that the girl who went to her parents, spread a rumor that I enjoy that violence, and supported nazi's due to shaving my head (which I did because I get very hot with hair, and the heat in school during the Winter was close to 80 degrees for people who can't stand the winters) My reasoning was simple. This needs to be learned, not just because it will repeat itself but because it will give you a true perspective on how easy one can fall into these men's shoes. Thankfully, my history teacher understood that. But was cut down by people and their children who are too fragile to think how easy that is.

[@paulblokker2381]

7th Grade...damn....that some hectic reading for young students! Well done teacher!

[@blackbird6330]

Thank you for Creating this, I and others truly appreciate your doing

[@inkbythebarrelandpaperbyth6905]

Is anyone here because of Jordan Peterson?

[@MrFiduciario]

Yup!

[@dejwarali329]

🙋‍♂️

[@Papa-Dima77]

Haha me too

[@rsb__]

👋🏽

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Yup

[@LazerWolf619]

Jordan Petersen brought me here

[@cooper1461]

Me too

[@isiahsugar2650]

Same lol

[@hummingbird9306]

Same

[@ecrevissebigeard6293]

me too

[@nikki2necklaces]

Me too

[@scottking5555]

There are 34 comments here including mine.... why are there not More people here listening to this? Jordan Peterson said this was one of his formative books. Are his fans and followers not interested in the formative bibliography he has provided? As soon as he mentions the “ Gulag archipelago” I downloaded all the volumes. Seriously, do people not want to at least listen to the formative writings that inspired the man they follow so closely? I know I do, I know that’s why I’m here

[@dakduen7943]

I got the book as a birthday gift, normally I don't read a book fast, but I have read this in less than a month thanks to this audio-book (I use it as a read along type thing)

[@mahirahmed6388]

i think people think the books that JBP suggests are hard to read and they actually are. maybe thats why people aren't reading these

[@deivi1]

Many of the people who are fans of his do not like Jews. I'm not saying that HE does not, he has actually called them out on it. But you can see many videos of people asking him to address / give his thoughts on the 'Jewish Question'

[@manosmavros]

@@deivi1 that is Def not true.

[@gado184]

Petersen warrants credibility exactly why? The book stands on its own merit.

[@mohamedorayith4626]

Jordan Peterson anyone??

[@guitar0wnz]

I'm here because of Peterson too

[@pierregullam7636]

yup mate after a lecture of Dr. JBP

[@dinoc1804]

Mohamed Orayith same !

[@drudown76]

who's he lol

[@BadMedizin]

Yes

[@weilandiv8310]

Dad, thanks for this important book. Stefan is an added bonus, such a great voice. Blitzed by Norman Ohler is recommended.

[@JessicaSanchez-qm9mi]

16:16 - I 19:39 - II 31:46 - III (I'll be editing the comment adding the time of each section as I listen)

[@umangshrestha9825]

1:07:00-iv 1:31:00-v 1:52:00-vi

[@daniellaramirez5177]

2:52:42 - IX 3:13:32 - X 3:44:38 - XII 4:06:00 -XIII 4:18:45 - XIV 4:42:45 -XV 5:09:35 - XVII 5:33:20 - XVIII

[@buddywyatt2940]

Thank you J.P. for introducing me to this.

[@seantalmadge6209]

This is an important book. Equally fascinating is Death Dealer - The memoirs of the SS Kommandant in Auschwitz. This book is written by Rudolf Hoess, the heads guard at Auschwitz. He speaks very candidly about the horrors of the final solution and his role in it. He also recounts his early life and what led him to embrace Nazism.

[@pfcsantiago8852]

To get to the stage where ordinary men are shooting children in the head shows how powerful propaganda is, and could happen again if not called out.

[@CØFFĮN_ÐĘLĮVĘRY]

I think people are more worldly now, mostly because of the Internet. It would be much harder to happen again.

[@VersusArdua]

​@@CØFFĮN_ÐĘLĮVĘRYpeople are more tribal now than ever before. I don't think it'd be too hard to fall back to that level and worse given the right pressure.

[@wallykloubek4079]

@@CØFFĮN_ÐĘLĮVĘRY..it’s already happened again...Cambodia, Rwanda , and yes, it will happen again ....cheers🍷🇨🇦

[@wheredidugo6739]

I came here because of Jorden Peterson and recent events.

[@IudiciumInfernalum]

Me too.

[@wardhively9594]

Me too

[@TheAntdalejohnson]

Same. Im starting the Gulag Archipelago next

[@bronwynevans150]

Christopher Browning is a brilliant historian. Having arrived here via Jordan Petersen, please have a look at the works of Timothy Snyder. Also amongst the most amazing of historians.

[@rayebel4430]

Started this audio book two years ago at the behest of Jordan Peterson Seems like we are going to repeat How sad it is that men do these things to one another

[@ydnallah1541]

The bravest amongst us are those that go against the flow

[@anythingbutmyrealname]

And the first to die

[@overlex]

God bless Jordan Peterson for making this important piece of work popular!!

[@gado184]

You give this Peterson a lot of credit, eh?

[@mohamedorayith4626]

gado184 yes! Any problems ?

[@dinoc1804]

Yup better him and axioms than some post modernist who is too much of a pathetic weasel to believe in anything other than oppressor vs oppressed.

[@lewisfitzjohn]

The story begins at 16:24

[@marcnews75]

This reading is much better than the audible version.

[@mili3212]

chapter 1 @16:22 chapter 2 @19:39

[@AP-qr8en]

This is why you don’t let the government disarm you people

[@YaxKukMo1426]

And yet more Americans have been killed in gun violence over the last 50 years than in all the country’s wars since the establishment of the Republic.

[@mikeingeorgia1]

YaxKukMo1426 , that’s not even remotely true.

[@alanblight9233]

Smiley Sixguns and besides the point even if it were true .

[@unhomme643]

That’s only partially correct. You should do some more research on gun laws during the third reich’s reign in WW2. Some were stripped of their “rights,” and others were expanded.

[@POWWOWMIK]

People with guns in America are ten times more likely to use them on behalf of a dictator than use them against one.

[@Strider-bl5sq]

Should be required reading for all college freshman

[@Darkvortex11]

I read this book for my holocaust history class. Such a powerful book that gave you insight on how average people were turned into cogs for systematic and calculated genocide. Definitely think it should be mandatory reading.

[@hollieinan8329]

Disgusting but hella important to listen to/read and reflect on, especially self reflection. I'm not religious, but the statement, "There but for the grace of God go I," seems appropriate. I kept thinking while listening, "I'm fucking lucky I wasn't raised by parents who were into the KKK or something because what would I be now? Would I be running around in a ghost wizard outfit trying to linch people for having brown skin?" Sickening to think that it's so easy to be a monster, but maybe we can learn from stories like these and be prepared to put up a fight rather than cower and comply. What beliefs do I not realize or not _want_ to realize are bullshit? Do I "pussy out" of doing the right thing because of social pressures? Do I put my own _wants_ over others' _needs?_ Do I ever treat people who are different than me badly because I'm uncomfortable with their differentness? I don't think I'm sadistic, but how would I know unless push came to shove? Thanks for the book.

[@gunbutter830]

Having read the book a few times, I think you missed the point of it. You don't have to be raised by the KKK or hate people with brown skin to do these things (the NAZIs weren't going after brown skin either BTW). The point of the book is that it doesn't matter how you were raised that EVERYONE! i.e., Ordinary Men, are capable of this. Most of those men weren't indoctrinated in NAZI beliefs. They attained adulthood before Hitler yet they still did these things. Sadly, I hear the echoes of modern day politics in you reply. That, somehow, the other side is the one that should be watched out for. What the book was pointing out is that you should watch out for yourself.

[@Kid_Kootenay]

It's ironic that the very thing that make a good cop fireman soldier kept these men from not committing these crimes. Groups of teens are similar often times it only takes one to say no this is wrong to stop the others from doing something wrong. Though in this case there was a definate justifiable fear for saying no. The Nazis started out punishing people who spoke out against them from day one, people were sent to Dachau for far far less. And every one of them probably thought it was only them thinking that way

[@5CreativityRivers]

So far listening for 1hr I can't believe that all happened it sounded like a hell dream

[@manusairsoft6359]

"I wouldn't have done That, I would have saved the Jews if I was there!" No, no you wouldn't have

[@davidcampbell4429]

This put me in a pretty bad depression for about two weeks. Worse is I can see the conformity of people years later during Covid.

[@wfcoaker1398]

Using infection control methods that have been proven to work for over a century is NOT "conformity", it's just common sense. It's funny to see people who haven't matured beyond their teenage "You're not the boss of me!" stage denying basic things like infection control. They enjoy the freedoms granted by their society, but they think that doing their bit for that society is intolerable oppression. They're all about their "rights" but won't acknowledge the responsibilities that come with those rights. It's really funny to see people who look like adults behave so childishly.

[@waltercolombe6105]

​@@wfcoaker1398Well said. It's amazing that someone would even make that equation.

[@ImGR888]

Jordan Peterson makes a lot of very good points that too much order is just as bad as too much chaos.

[@Liberty-Jamie]

Thanks for this.

[@pickititllneverheal9016]

This book, Bloodlands, and Gulag Archipelago, are three books that should be required reading in school. Not underwater queer basket weaving, and victim hood for dummies.

[@DanielKomorowski-c4e]

That is way too much reading material for most people these days.

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

@@DanielKomorowski-c4e Because the comprehensive reading levels for American students is much lower than other for students of other countries. Everything is lower in every subject. Comprehension is not people’s strong suit and all one has to do to is scan comments sections to see why this is a huge problem.

[@Clarkey-y9r]

😢

[@antitiktokunion3894]

I’ll never forget what I read in the book bloodlands, especially about the Dirlewanger brigade

[@johnthompson457]

The exact three books I recommend to people.

[@teddy_bearc_bolten3885]

If you liked this book you’ll love Europa The Last Battle... it’s a documentary about the Nazis and all that Jazz. Seriously relates. 10 part series, part 1 is on google cause KZbin is blocking shit, the other 10 parts can be found with some searching

[@DadsAmazingAdventures]

Thanks for the comment Cameron.

[@chrishedlund3196]

Frightening to lesson to and unbelievable. Unreal.

[@Midas.T]

I was mentally exhausted reading the book.

[@davedavy5406]

Who is this narrator? I've heard him narrate some great books and he is fantastic

[@DadsAmazingAdventures]

The narrator's name is said in the first 14 seconds of the book, David. :)

[@davedavy5406]

@@DadsAmazingAdventures oh I must have missrd it. I tend to just switch these things on and get settled while I wait for the book to start

[@davedavy5406]

@@DadsAmazingAdventures oh I must have missrd it. I tend to just switch these things on and get settled while I wait for the book to start

[@DadsAmazingAdventures]

@@davedavy5406 Easily done. :)

[@wolfhugs2221]

A friend directed me here to understand how it is that the technology developed by the nazis for mass killing could be used in the UK today. Chilling but relevant.

[@VersusArdua]

How do you mean?

[@teddy_bearc_bolten3885]

You just wonder how people rationalized this.

[@DARK_NRG]

Watch this by psychology professor Jordan Peterson about this book: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH6VoGybYtWqpac

[@alexmatthews180]

Imho? One step at a time...

[@jamesmerry1836]

The first thing you do that you know you shouldn't, makes the next thing much easier.

[@gamerlegend8529]

Nothing is irrational about it

[@jamessicard6682]

Sounds good on 1.25 speed..

[@Tarik360]

We have this book in our school library.

[@blackbird6330]

I'm very happy to hear that, I hope it is taken out frequently .......all the best

[@elmerdelgado8236]

Chapter 18 Ordinary Men 5:33:17

[@neal.karn-jones]

Ch 9 - 2:52:39, 10 - 3:13:41, 11 - 3:30:47 12 - 3:44:35 13 - 4:05:57

[@jsheekey1]

Horrifically chilling 💔

[@DadsAmazingAdventures]

I agree. Thanks for your comment

[@jamesm.taylor6928]

Many people today, most especially younger generations who don't feel the necessity to find things out for themselves, verify things they hear presented as fact of truth, .and up their own minds instead of being provided with their opinions, beliefs, ect..when all that is provided to them by their peers, who heard it from someone or another, mainstream media sources like CNN, and professional media would never lie or publish biased stories everyone knows that!, college professors, so what if they're mostly communists, and other obviously impeachable sources like these. Why go to all that effort to research, learn, educate yourself when there's way more important things to do?, Play video games, party, ect... What's the point of having a smart phone, social media, and Google if someone actually had to go and discover it it's the truth, factual, unbiased? They feel as if they know everything they need to know already anyway. So there's no.point in reading things like this, it's obvious anyone who wants to read books about hitler, the nazis, holocaust and world war two are Nazis and fascists themselves. It's that simple. I recently heard a radio show aired a few hours after victory in Europe was announced throughout the world when Germany signed the surrender. By the end I was very nearly in tears. Much of what they talked about was the lessons learned and how to win the peace this time so we never repeat another world war. The sad part was every single lesson they said was learned with sixty million dead, everything to win the peace. Things like knowing a hometown newspaper with a circulation of many thousands can lie as insidiously as a flyer in Berlin, how freedom can never be won and then set aside forgotten it must be won daily, by each of us, by a few minutes of civic minded thought daily like keeping informed of events throughout the world and keeping elected public servants continuing to serve the public not themselves or special interests.All these and many more I realized are completely forgotten. Many of the Younger generations are now demonstrating on the streets of America advocating violent armed communist revolution acting, and being, the fascist and Nazis they claim to oppose and accuse all others of being. This even with the horrible bloody proof, truth of communism being far and away the most oppressive, violent, murderous heinous system ever devised and without exception doomed to failure, but only after many years of murder, oppression, terror, misery. They casually dismiss the truth of Stalin aside as lies when only truly brain dead people could possibly do that, the proofs are so completely overwhelming, including death lists in Stalin's own handwriting but to them just lies and propoganda,increadible! In the end maybe America deserves what will soon happen but when the light of hope that shined throughout the world that was America is extinguished we will enter dark ages worse than the original ones..

[@Midway47]

Read your comment. If you have not already done so I recommend reading Stalin, Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941 ,Stephan Kotkin. More horrifying, if that is possible, than this book. Gives you a somewhat different perspective of what was going on in Europe at this time. As far as your comment is concerned, without attempting to enter into a political discussion I personally feel that we have a similar circumstance in North America and the roll of the MSM in their obvious attempt to discredit Trump and lionize Trudeau. I am not a lover of the President but, similarly to the press in Nazi Germany which produced unlimited propaganda for Hitler the press in North America are intentionally trying to destroy him. From spying on his campaign, to Muller and through impeachment they are hiding the truth from the American people. They lie about most of his statements, claiming that he is racist etc. Not surprisingly many Americans believe these statements. (Canada is the same with Trudeau except, of course the media is bought and paid by him, and therefore support all of his foolish and criminal actions.). not too well explained by myself, but to summarize, we are being propagandized to think one way and it is truly frightening. You don’t have to agree with me in whole or in part but it is food for thought.

[@MsBernadetteblack]

So true . It was the case for the Jewish Communities' in the 1930s Listening to the Jewish Survivors accounts of Europe in the 30s when asked were they aware of the changes taking place in Germany at the time . A lot of them the will say yes but it didn't affect them at the time saying they were to young A lot make the case they were "only children at the time", they were anything from 12 to early 20s.

[@-ak-4803]

Can someone help me to find fb2/pdf version of this book please!?

[@cheeriomilk7401]

Chapter 3 - 31:45

[@oathoftheowl2146]

That was f****** brutal book far out

[@CyFed_Republic_of_Kaltovar]

Damn this is brutal.

[@TimU2Cool]

This is the most disturbing book I have listened to ever. This is also why I am so very passionate about our second amendment

[@julianah3479]

6:44:33 - Afterward

[@jayschumacher815]

Very hard to listen to

[@lazolazarov6262]

1:31:15 - “how did this men first become mass murderers?”

[@artcampbell5315]

i like sharing this with people who believe anyone in a police uniform is honest, respectable, and trustworthy

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Im only about 2hrs in, but have had the same thought a few times

[@tlsmitty06]

I wear a police uniform...... So what are you saying about me?

[@DadsAmazingAdventures]

Try not to use expletives, as it will be blocked. Thanks.

[@artcampbell5315]

@@tlsmitty06 trey, I'm saying you aren't automatically a "good guy" because you spent 6 weeks at the academy and have a badge and uniform. Being good involves actual ethics and not just the approval of the people you work with.

[@artcampbell5315]

@Felipe Segura take a quick look at "reserve police batallion 101", a few of these police officers didn't like spending their day shooting innocent civilians, but thete wre plenty that did.

[@UtahMMARankings]

This guy is Daniel Jonah Goldhagen’s son, it’s sad really

[@savidge08]

Years of propaganda turned these men into murderers of women & children. Sound familiar Un Homme

[@probablecosby]

You should listen again, that’s one of the things the book mentions is that they weren’t indoctrinated into nazism, they weren’t really influenced by propaganda, they already had their own views of the world, that’s part of what makes it so interesting.

[@jellybelly230]

We all look at what horrors the Nazis have brought into this world and stand in disbelief of what the German people did to the Jews, but we forget the sins of history's pass. During the black plague many blamed the Jews for the cause of the plague causing a progrom, or when Henry Ford and the KKK increased the strength of anti semetic attacks on the Jewish community. We can learn of how people have acted in the past for they thought it was justified by Himmler and the Füher same as how during the crusades they were told if you go into battle you have an instant passage to heaven. We can learn and study from our mistakes allowing us to move on. Not bringing blame onto each other.

[@456swagger]

Our mistakes? Speak for yourself.

[@jonathanfreeman4607]

Unless God restrains us we are ALL capable of murder and every other horrendous sin. There is really no mystery here.

[@Clarkey-y9r]

😢

[@miapitts5959]

Its the original sin of man.

[@jeremyhansen8186]

Well said. Children are taught that they are born good, with the occasional bad seed once in a blue moon. God's Word tells us we are all born in sin. But for His Son's sacrifice on the cross, we will die in sin. It is His intercession on our behalf that allows us to be born into life, everlasting.

[@mohamedorayith4626]

2:10:35 oh wow Only one person stepped back

[@mohamedorayith4626]

2:12:05 major Trapp is the only decent Sargent

[@mohamedorayith4626]

Chapter 9

[@johnflynn4966]

Read the book, scary stuff 😳

[@triggerwarning2982]

Honestly, I’m here listening so I don’t have to lol

[@robertboyles822]

Does anyone else see red flag parallel possibilities? Alternate reality/truth, strong nationalism, leader appealing to a fringe, and "sheeple"? Scary possibilities. PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION! "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" George Santayana In reference to Gene Jamieson 's comment below.......................this should be required reading...................MS.........maybe..............by HS definitely.

[@mpoharper]

James Ginn believing in you country does not forgive acts like those described in the book.

[@ddo9712]

@James Ginn Not true. If your country pursues policies that are genocidal, you don't follow blindly.

[@thenewertruth5745]

Did the Constitution help the Native Americans?

[@sanniepstein4835]

The fear of being a Nazi should not inhibit normal patriotism which, unlike naziism, embraces all the citizens of one's country. The Nazi smear has been used cynically, falsely, and excessively to avoid debate or cover the sins of those making the accusation.

[@sanniepstein4835]

@@thenewertruth5745 Eventually. Compare the Alaska Native Land Claims Settlement to the Trail of Tears. The founders' vision makes permanent caste systems harder to establish.

[@anwiseru9064]

holy shit i just realized its a person talking

[@legoforever1000]

Anwiseru that scottie pippen voice bruh

[@mohamedorayith4626]

1:26:30 I’m surprised about this sentence ‘Hand the hammers over’ seems a bit lenient for a mass killer police

[@DTM.]

Jordan Peterson is the man!

[@waylonsalt5071]

Old JP He has gone off the edge

[@Mike-hh3cx]

My favorite human

[@jameswilliams7026]

2:53:05

[@savidge08]

The left in America will do the same thing kill millions

[@unhomme643]

You should at least try to substantiate that claim.

[@paulbadman8509]

Un Homme history is literally repeating right now.

[@Johnmiccael1]

@@unhomme643 turn on the news.

[@markchapman4552]

I am on the left yet I am not an Anti-Facist. You are a republican I infer yet I wont assume, as I wouldn't assume you are a neo-nazi or Alt. Right even if you are Republican. No one in my home is sitting around salivating the day we murder millions of our fellow Americans in cold calculated murder. I'm here possibly like you to stretch my perspective and not let history repeat itself. Maybe generalizations like, 'all Jews are less than human and ruining our economy', or 'the (entire) left in America are going to kill millions', are things that might lead to lives lost. There is no need to fear me neighbor. I just want to be happy.

[@coffee_corpse]

@@markchapman4552 I watched Peterson have a talk about group identity awhile back. He said something like, the issue is whether the group identity is secondary or primary. If it's primary then individual identity is secondary. I see that alot these days with rep/Dem- right/ left. I just wanted to say it's nice to hear someone who's individual identity is primary for a change. No finger pointing or blaming. No left vs right. I'm on the right and I too do not assume you're a bad person for being on the other side. I too just want to be happy. ✌️

[@gado184]

Genocides are littered across history. It is telling which mass murders your culture is willing to tolerate.

[@Theabysstreasure]

Yes .genocides are littered across history. But you also can not deny the fact that history is also filled with innovations and human trying to establish peace. How do you think america got to the place it is now( far from perfect) but way better than it was 100 years ago? Only with genocides or a combination of peace treaties ,war ,and collaboration? This is why i refuse to think humans are mostly bad.

[@jamesmerry1836]

Which are you willing to tolerate?

[@AP-qr8en]

This is why Turkey is revolting

[@overlex]

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[@mohamedorayith4626]

Chapter 8 2:39:00 Aren’t you a coward if you were scared from other comrades painting you as a coward; therefore avoiding to step back and killing hundreds of Jews ?

[@AP-qr8en]

Mohamed Orayith certainly from one point of view. Cold blooded killing is always cowardly no matter what. It only makes it worse that the victims were defenseless non-combatants. However I believe that the logic these men adhered to was that the acts they were committing were so reprehensible and so unforgivable (which they knew, as we find out they were sickened to their core by what they were doing) that they did not feel that they deserved to leave while others stayed and continued darkening their souls. They felt like they couldn’t justify leaving while their friends had to stay and continue carrying out these duties. That’s how I interpret it, at least

[@bipolarbear9601]

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[@mohamedorayith4626]

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[@darrenanthonyshortt9157]

Were the liveing envy the dead.

[@ewa2z816]

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[@CKCrippledKnight]

People would be willing to do this all over again if it meant keeping them safe from C0V!D. Reference Australia for evidence.

[@stephenkane1074]

Did they have mass shootings in Australia? I must have missed that on the news.

[@thrbig1234]

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[@LDPowder]

9:20:16

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

You can trace antisemitism back to the rise of the Christian Church (For the Record I Am An Evangelical Christian and have been for many many decades. Also an Unlicensed Non-Certified historian). Where antisemitism leading to The Shoah Really Took Off was the 19th century and the Eugenics Movement. Before the 19th century, Yes Jews were (often) persecuted/oppressed, but not because they were Jews, but because they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah. With the rise of the materialist view and eugenics, it didn't matter if a Jew became a Christian or not.

[@blondequijote]

Spain had moors and Jews who converted to Catholicism after the reconquista. Churches even kept records of when families converted so the inquisition knew who to watch. They had to make sure those families weren’t just pretending to be Catholic and practicing their religion in secret. The racial purity thing in Spain was something they were into, especially among the nobility ofc.

[@cornpopwuzzabaddude4962]

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[@saintexupery8406]

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[@saintexupery8406]

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[@myheadhurts1927]

The evil that men are capable of is astounding. Even good men can get caught up in the worst possible behavior . However, the Germans seemed to be easily persuaded. I see the pictures of Germany bombed into dust and I feel no pity.

[@marshalldrew4809]

Did you even listen?

[@dougstyles5091]

Humans are the worst thing to ever happen to this planet.

[@Summer-123-d8e]

What creature are you?

[@blackbird6330]

interesting, considering that this Planet is constantly trying to Kill Us , Do learn how to think , it would help us all

[@Theabysstreasure]

No. I think you are wrong about this but I understand why you would say this. The main thing you should understand from this book is that we all have a dark side. But we also have some lights in our hearts.

[@sadisticsquirrels2474]

If wolves had opposable thumbs and giant brains they would do worse.

[@456swagger]

That would be your little secret.

[@fallingsky1984]

Sounds like every german was up for some killing

[@maryshaffer8474]

Russians and other Eastern Europeans have a decidedly murderous bent. Of course, every other continent does too.

[@oathoftheowl2146]

Did you not listen to the book at all?

[@A.E.Lanman777]

Every mans shadow reaches to hell. Everyone is capable, it seems as though Americans are way more blood thirsty anymore.

[@lexusrx333]

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[@benpekarcik2371]

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[@mohamedorayith4626]

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[@quidproquo0]

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[@lucasjohnson2939]

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[@sofiaf7189]

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[@Theabysstreasure]

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[@lucasjohnson2939]

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[@goldtiger9453]

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[@augmentdcoconut]

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[@cornpopwuzzabaddude4962]

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