Daemons in The Old World

[@keitholiver6152]

the problem I have with Daemons is the unstable ability, like the Undead one, means loosing a combat by x amount still matters. Whereas other armies now have give ground (innate stubborn kinda). Just when you loose wounds on Daemons, you ain't loosing chaff like Zombies or Skellies which you can heal back. High points, not even the same reward as top armies like Ogres. They may be the weakest army, or hardest army to master. Fine margin with combat score. So one I have to see how it plays first

[@00Kuja00]

I don't even think you can re-roll the "Break" test with their Locus, it does not say it. But the Locus does stack with Infernal Favour. :P

[@toxxicteddy5557]

Kinda feel like khorne should have frenzy rather than impetuous so bloodletters are at 2 attacks, so many armies have access to magical attacks (warriors of chaos and lizardmen for example have it on there basic weapons) that the ward won't be overly prevalent they should at least make them more glass cannon like otherwise I think there loosing most rounds of combat and just crumbling... as a very very long time deamons player I like the book overal but man the units feels a bit overcosted

[@anderplays6460]

Never liked how they split chaos warriors and daemons. The old Hordes of Chaos was much better in every regard

[@DerOrk]

The fact that you can't legally ally them is mental. I hope the community universaly choses to ignore that.

[@grumbo8634]

@@DerOrk I'm 100% ignoring it - as far as i'm concerned Warriors, Beasts and Daemons can all ally with each other.

[@octa4155]

The Keeper of secrets with some magic items is really hilarious. Takes your fight first or pushes you otherwise to fight last, you only hit on 6s if you dont pass your leadership test etc 😂

[@DarthAsaroth]

Did they update the PDF's? unit sizes are different from the video than the PDF i have. nurglings are 3+ and beasts are 2+ for example

[@jackrogers5712]

Is he maybe reading an old preview version of the rules?

[@terraneaux]

@@jackrogers5712 He's probably just an idiot.

[@captainferrite]

Honestly surprised the greater daemon base sizes accommodate the new plastic models, only the Thirster was out before AoS.

[@octa4155]

Thank the dark gods i dont have to buy these ugly old greater daemons 😂 i had them and dont want to have them again 😂

[@ChrisNihilus]

You misread the Soulgrinder. It's a fire thrower, not a stone thrower. I'm enjoying the Slaanesh rules quite a bit. A lot of ways to flank charge and reduce morale.

[@Rigo_S]

Seems you were reading a pre-released version of the rules as unit sizes for nurgle are +1 model minimum over what you were reading (e.g. Beasts are min 2+, Nurglings min 3+ per unit)

[@grumbo8634]

Beasts being 2+ annoys me to no end

[@Iamthenoodle]

Khorne is gonna be where its at imo, I 3d print so the plan is to print 2k of each God and determine the best combos. Thanks for all of these videos, it's been great to hear your views on the armies!

[@jackrogers5712]

I dunno. Bloodletters seem really dumpy to me. The other stuff seems solid. I really like that Flesh Hounds have counter charge. I'm not sure how I feel about Bloodcrushers. One attack for the rider just strikes me as total trash, even though they get bonus attacks through other means.

[@00Kuja00]

So does Locus allows re-rolls on their Break/Ld tests? Because it does not say so, compared to for example VC bsb. The Locus rule does stack with Infernal Favour though. So I guess thats good.

[@anderslundtoft2315]

Yhis gokna sound evil AF, but im glad you are alone in this video - i will watch it to the end

[@SquidFisT44]

Deamons! Thanks for the video, gonna convert mine over for ToW!

[@cp1cupcake]

Did they change the pdfs between when you made these and release? There seem to have been a number of differences between what you read but do not match up and it is not just this one. I noticed here that you got some of the min size units wrong (and possibly also missing equipment like barding for khorne and shooting for blue horrors) and you got the Dark Elf Hecarti's Blessing wrong too (it is 1/game, not 1/turn).

[@cp1cupcake]

The Totem of Eternal War is really good on a polythiest army since it doesn't care about alignment.

[@Slapdab]

Thanks for all the analysis

[@cp1cupcake]

You skipped Daemonic Alignment, aka the rules each type of daemon has based on diety.

[@Fred-maurice]

man, Beast of nurgle are the best unit in the book. in V8 i used 18 of them in 2999 pts. 3 blocks of 6. almost impossible to kill for 90% of the other units in the game. 1D6 +1 attacks with poison by rank of 3 , this is a good +11 wounds all the time. and now u can choose them in Special and rare. !! u will see a lot on the table soon, because gw didnt max the units size. its just 2+ size with no limit. beautiful.

[@grumbo8634]

very good way to absolutely ruin the game for everybody else

[@Fred-maurice]

in tournament u run to win, not ta have fun @@grumbo8634

[@spacebb]

@@grumbo8634 that is demon players for u

[@rotm4447]

what's the big deal, just an expensive monsterous infantry with a lot of relatively weak attacks and a mediocre saving throw.

[@Onk3lM0]

Is the next one First Impressions for the Vampire Counts? Really looking forward to your insight there!

[@TheMaltesefalcon204]

Misread this as Chaos Dwarfs... you still get your like and comment, but I am taking a bottle of Maple syrup.

[@1337Trapper]

The blue horrors do have the flames of tzeentch ranged attack fyi

[@mkienert]

Probably didn't in his pre-release version

[@BradKlatt]

Huh...daemonettes stayed on a 25mm base. Will this make much of a difference gameplay-wise? Means less re-basing though, which is a plus.

[@georgefinnegan2369]

No horde special rule. Just flavor text. Where my daemonic hordes GW?

[@ollikainulainen9590]

Yhh, daemons seems like a losers lf old world. 5+ ward that doesnt work against magical attacks, but oh half of other armies troops get magocal attacks - well maybe they lowered points because of big nerf - oh, they increased them... Oh well, luckily we have tceentch which is great at magic, oh... Worst magic missile in whole game. #TheyButcheredMyBois

[@00Kuja00]

If you read closely, their Locus "Bsb" does not allow re-rolls on Ld/Break test. :P