To my ears A sounded more balanced overall while B sounded overpowerd at the bottom and more like disco/club speakers than a home/room speakers. I prefer Dali's but Q Acoustics are serius contenders !
@andymill32 Жыл бұрын
Detail retrieval, soundstage and dynamics are just as important, more bass is not the only thing that denotes a quality speaker. I have and love the Dalis no need for a Sub for them in my small living room.
@andymill8552 Жыл бұрын
On my system: A was more coherent and in balance to me. B was much boomier and more V-shaped.
@gregfreeman8441 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to this, what does V-shaped mean?
@andymill8552 Жыл бұрын
@@gregfreeman8441 V-shaped means that the mid-frequencies are more recessed than the low- and high frequencies. If you would see a graph of the frequency response it resembles a sort of 'V' (a dip in the middle). A more 'neutral' sound would look more like a straight line instead of a V. On the first impression a 'V shape' can sound more lifely and vivid (more accent on bass and treble), but in the long term it can come accross as more fatiquing and less balanced than a more neutral sound.
@SergioGarcia-jg3yy10 ай бұрын
I also was going to say that about cymbals. I can't tell about imaging, but I like more the treble in the Dali's and even the bass (more natural to me). So, my vote is for the Dali's
@calvinnapier9977 Жыл бұрын
The problem with judging the sound from what your hearing and what we're hearing from KZbin is gonna mess with things. To me the Dali's has a richer low end while the Q's brought out better details in the mids and highs. Fantastic magic trick at the beginning 👏 Your talents never cease to amaze me 😄
@shemsureshot8 ай бұрын
You did a really good job explaining the difference between the two form factors. I wanted floor standers but didn’t want their weight, bulk or having to store large boxes. I ended up buying a pair of Kef R2 speakers and found this form factor gave me the best of both worlds. If you get the chance it would be good to see another video like this with something like the R2’s in them. I suppose they could be called tall bookshelf speakers.
@diegocanale11249 ай бұрын
I have Dalis for a decade. First the zensor 1 and now spektor 2 for the past 3 years
@vgnow655811 ай бұрын
That's how sound battles should be done, well done 👍
@100Chicky Жыл бұрын
i knew straight away. floorstanders are much smoother
@andreassouth1523 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review.I'm not into forward (in your face)sounding speakers. So i bought a year ago Q 3030i with Yamaha a-s 501.I was very worry maybe the sound turn out to be too bright for me.Ηappily the sound is laid back.The highs are crystal but not offencive,the mids are warm and revealingly and the bass deep and strong (in my room).In some movies bass gets very low frequencies like a subwoofer!The whole room is shaking!!So i don't have to spend more money for a subwoofer. Like i said i was worry about the synergy between them but Yamaha A-S 501 proved to be a true gem.Far better speakers than wrfs 12.2.
@harrydavidson55486 ай бұрын
The Q accoustic, far more dynamic with good instrument separation. Great video, thank you.
@marleymcleay92282 ай бұрын
I have the 3060s subwoofer. Ive recently purchased the SVS Soundpath Subwoofer isolation system. a set of 4 feet to screw onto your subwoofer, to reduce reverb or noise from the flooring and wall. They are not really designed for subs outside of the svs range. The provided screws are a half mm to thick for the thread to work properly. But the amazing workaround is that the spikes with the rubber feet provided OEM with the 3060s subwoofer work a treat for securing the feet to the speaker. The sub sits over an inch off of the ground. I notice significant reduction in unwanted vibrations around the house. And i feel the sub integrates easier into the soundfield with less mud and distortion. I enjoy music more especially. (Oneday ill have a setup for film) as a first time sub owner, for the price it is a very good addition to have.
@paulb4uk Жыл бұрын
A was much better sounding to me
@RanTausi Жыл бұрын
I Liked the A more !
@kevinsheppard6085 Жыл бұрын
It could just be the You tube effect or my ageing lug holes, but I actually preferred the bass on the Dali, I thought the Sub sounded deeper but more one one note base in comparison. I also thought the Dali speaker won on the treble front as well. However the mids were a tad better on the 3020i's but I think that is the book shelf speaker effect. Fab review though
@henningpedersen3838 Жыл бұрын
The QA system with subwoofer had the most base but I like the sound and the loock of the Dalys more...
@noosamikeАй бұрын
Thanks for this review, you saved me from buying the 3060s, it sounded terribly boomy and best suited to a night club.
@sihartley6838 Жыл бұрын
I think a better comparison would have been the 3030i's. The 3020i is more of a satellite speaker, they tend to be more of a rear/surround or PC option. Very much a "bookshelf" speaker, where as 3030i is more standmount, which would be the better option for a front/main speaker comparison.
@invisiblekid996 ай бұрын
I think I’m planning to get the 3020i for PC and maybe the 3060sub and the 3030i and stands for the living room 3020 vs 3030, the 3030’s win hands down. The sub evens things a little bit, but for pure TV music listening the 3030’s are the way to go. Only a few quid more too.
@handokosetiawan2803 Жыл бұрын
I prefer Dali's sound.
@ryanbakshi22 күн бұрын
A very good review. The floorstanders won straightaway during the blind test. Maybe if you could have adjusted the bass to be a bit less, then the Q acoustics could have been very close. As an owner of entire 3000 series of Q acoustics, I can vouch that they have better soundstage and imaging and mid range. But as an overall package and balanced sound, I found the DALI floorstanders much better. I think ANY floorstanders are better than using bookshelves with a sub. I usually go almost full volume on my amps, crossing 90%, and that is where the bookshelves just cannot handle it. So I learnt that floorstanders are always best. For people who listen at reasonable volumes till 70%, bookshelves will do just fine.
@bartbrodsky71905 ай бұрын
Listening at home on my own 3020i setup with a small subwoofer, I found the Dali more balanced but the Q system had more presence, especially in the mids and lower mids. I liked some tracks better with the Dali setup, others better with the Qs. As for bass response, you might have set the volume a wee too high on the Q subwoofer, skewing test results. Booming bass was a tell as to which system was A and which was B.
@LorDarkGoose8 ай бұрын
From experience I know standmounts image much better than floorstanders generally- so standmounts + sub is usually going to be the winning combo. That said, for some reason in the sound samples the Oberons' bass sounded more tuneful which I like as opposed to "thuddy". I own the Oberons though and it's not the most tuneful of bass really. So there may be something in how it's picked up by the mic, recorded, processed by youtube or just my headphones causing this. Still a very interesting comparison!
@I_am_not_a_bot-s6i8 ай бұрын
Hard to tell? B is more versatile if you want to use it in a home theater setup. A look nicer. I think everyone would like to own floor standers if the had a big enough room to get the best out of them they recommend 3 feet from any walls. I think this as helped me not to go for floor standers
@RanTausi Жыл бұрын
You did it again, you just knocked right in my face😎 , Thanks for the video and be carful with special magic.
@michaelvincent830611 ай бұрын
Bookshelf speakers every time your room is the key and the imagery from good Bookshelf speakers takes some beating unless you have tons of cash
@michals1108 Жыл бұрын
I have got 3020i now and bass is the only thing missing so I'm looking to upgrade something... either buy new set or ...
@vzrbala Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison.. what are your thoughts on floor standing vs just bookshelf? Is it a fair comparison?
@UTILITARIANTVUK Жыл бұрын
In this instance, I preferred the bookshelves and sub. But It's subjective to the listener really.
@audioman6007 Жыл бұрын
I still don't think that marantz amp works well with the oberon 5, but i didn't like that sub, the bass was all wrong for me. Put the dali with something like a Yamaha amp and them speakers will sing.
@davidevans4535 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you
@johnewing3838 ай бұрын
I watch you on a tablet, so I cannot differentiate between the tracks. So how do you record from speakers without gaps between changing speakers? As I cannot hear any difference.
@darrenhawksley4459 Жыл бұрын
Hi Marty, I’m by no means a so called “Audiophile” 🤣but I have worked in many audio studios over the years.(if that counts) You are spot on!! everyone’s ears are different and we all like different sound. I have done a full circle now and ditched my 2:1 set up for a good old fashioned stereo one and I must say I prefer it over an added sub. The problem with a sub is they really need fine tuning as to frequency and positioning and its so hard to get the balance right! I found it would sound fantastic with one track and shocking with another.😕Live recordings and jazz tracks were great with the sub I must add. Stereo 2 speaker is the way to go for me anyway. P.S I’ve now just returned back to a Musical Fidelity B1 integrated amp after many years and I’ve fallen in love with music all over again. Brilliant video as always mate. Well done. 💪💪✨🙏
@skeezer180 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate the 3020i with a rel sub woofer is just great
@lexusuk7901Ай бұрын
A all day everyday. Suspect with some configuration you could obtain similar results from both setups however.
@Rockin_Kat Жыл бұрын
Q Acoustics 3020i & 3060s gives too boomy bass. Frequency 64-250Hz is superimposed twice, apparently that’s why the booming sound appears. If the sound from the subwoofer was cut off at 100Hz it would be much better. Or select bookshelf speakers starting from 200 Hz. Dali sounds more natural.
@Rockin_Kat Жыл бұрын
Or just turn off the bass on the amplifier a little, maybe then it would be better than Dali.
@celloryoku11 ай бұрын
Great video, love the edits! :D I have a similar system, Q 3020i with stands but using an SVS 1000 pro for the sub. Was considering Oberon 5, but after this video I understood that while it’s better, it’s not too much of an upgrade. The SVS sounds much more integrated to me, especially after a lot of setting adjustments. But mainly the crossover set in the low 60’s, mine to 62hz (since the 3020i’s go down to 65hz) made the sub disappear… what was the crossover set to for this vid by the way?
@johntknight4 ай бұрын
No contest! …the Oberon’s by a mile! Much more balanced and satisfying sound to my ears 👂
@louisdefunes89527 ай бұрын
Nice review! Ihad the Oberon 5(bought new for about €800,-) great speaker but for me a little to much bass; i'm living in a tiny room(but high ceiling) that's why. The Q Acoustics i've never heard. After the Dali's i bought (second hand €250,- but as new) a pair of Triangle Borea 3 and love this speakers. Sounds great connected with my Aiyima D03 class D-amp. I won't believed it, but it does. Use a 36 volt adapter instead of the standard 32 volt adapter by the way. Have also the very much and good reviewed SMSL AL200; this amp is a good amp, don't get me wrong. But i miss the "warm" sound, i miss some low frequencies. Okay, probably a matter of taste.. And paired with a pair of warm speakers(like the Oberon 5) it could be a right match. The sound of the Aiyima is not worse than my total restored vintage(1987) Sansui AU-317.. Ohh, i only stream music; BlueSound Node 2i, love this streamer and user interface.
@roncarter5532 Жыл бұрын
Based on what I hear via my I phone I prefer the Q acoustics and sub personally 👍
@frankhyam31254 ай бұрын
I use dali 5 with a dali sub as the 5s alone didnt go low enough
@eliezernunes96015 ай бұрын
Bom as diferenças entre ambos tem seu pq claro eu estou cogitando de ir pro Q Acoustics para home theater 5.1 para filmes e shows à qualidade do Q Acoustics é muito top este é o meu voto ok 👍🏽
@kelvintan2629 Жыл бұрын
The treble bass setting u set to neautral on the av receiver? Or bass set to max?
@UTILITARIANTVUK Жыл бұрын
Neutral
@sassteve1971 Жыл бұрын
Dali’ 100% but listening through Sony headphones via IPad so not sure an accurate test- Better overall sound staging for me 👍
@joekelly9369 Жыл бұрын
Towers anytime ,( get some soft furnishings on them echos) the rest is myth bookshelfs need to be aimed at the listening area more precisely . Towers have massive bass (monitor audio) 6s are bass monsters , hearing beats paper parameters (companies play with numbers ) they cant play with the sound !
@Adrianek81 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video,my pick is oberon 5 cause they are bigger so more powerfull and more bass,i own Oberon 3 now with marantz nr1711,amazing sound and bass after audyssey mic calibration😁
@dmvinyl8326 Жыл бұрын
Version A is better
@stevanbatinic6733 Жыл бұрын
Definitely A !!! 👍
@jozsefrezmuves39818 ай бұрын
Definitely A
@kentsha8013 Жыл бұрын
I prefer Dali Oberon 5
@Niels133 Жыл бұрын
I would go for the 3050i.
@andywrollo291510 ай бұрын
Cant get same stereo soundstage with a sub woofter.
@ohnonateАй бұрын
Awsome!
@Timoeltejano Жыл бұрын
A sounded better over all. The Dali Oberon.
@rodmcleod489711 ай бұрын
I own the 3020is and liked A better..The sub sounded to boomy with q acoustics to my ears
@gprider1525 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, A was more coherent
@rocco37ful3 ай бұрын
Las oberon 5 sin duda son superior
@drandall1000 Жыл бұрын
Q's sounded great
@nigelparr49945 ай бұрын
A few months ago I tested 6 floorstanders I had set my heart on the Dali 5's, and was severely disappointed, the bass was very weak, and the rest of the range was mediocre, not worth £800 readies of my money, in the end it was between q acoustics 3050 and wharfedale 12.3, the 12.3 had the edge punchy bass, really nice mid range, and a not too harsh top end, and £300 cheaper, the dali oberon 5 was about the worst speaker out of the six I tested
@JG-gg9wk10 күн бұрын
Lose the theatrics,
@TranceHeed Жыл бұрын
A
@seanjoe17043 ай бұрын
dali win
@anthonyp.34866 ай бұрын
Oberon
@harrykain285 Жыл бұрын
If you're listening on your phone, you're never gonna hear the difference
@nuznikas Жыл бұрын
On tablet a speakers vibrated more than b
@fulvioseverino48354 ай бұрын
A...
@100popsongs Жыл бұрын
Wow, B sounded significantly better
@olaberglund6871 Жыл бұрын
Q acustics is better.
@robertgough5804 Жыл бұрын
Both too boomy both crap
@UTILITARIANTVUK Жыл бұрын
Have you considered the equipment you're listening on is what's crap?
@ady2416 Жыл бұрын
A
@ady2416 Жыл бұрын
it stood out instantly ;) I'm still chasing some new speakers lol