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[@blargh559]

the comment bro left sounds like the first letter Stan sent to Eminem

[@Mildain2000]

Now he's full on wife in the trunk about to drive off a bridge

[@Cjeska]

That was literally the video I watched before I clicked on this one, wtf.

[@Bairendd]

what would make this whole thing funnier is if gemstone is multiboxing as well. Playing the feral with his bot hunter. Commenting his friend is good af reffering to himself

[@familyLe297]

Lmao this guy was also multi boxing as pikas teammate

[@Shaddaye1]

Nah feral is in my friend's list, it's another person for sure, played with him.

[@grubi05]

His comment on Pikas video felt like Eminem Stan song

[@Mattlife97]

Perfectly hits 6 key binds then proceeds to backpedal at 1600 rating and then begins the gaslighting campaign.

[@trentongardner2106]

Lol I make this same play and I ain't high rated. It aint hard to press mouse key binds. And macros do the rest. The only thing that can look crazy here is the fein, and that's because your watching it from pikas view. The fein reduces damage. It's my preferred way to try to stop stealth opens. Just press it and hope they open as your pressing it. No skill required in that. Your braindead though, so I doubt you can understand words.

[@youlovetoseeitlol]

Tbf, when you play hunter it keeps your char always pointed at your target when in combat. A lot of times it makes you look like you're backpedaling when you're strafing. Not saying it's this guy, but yeah MM always looks like it's backpedaling lol.

[@EpicWInGameplays]

@@youlovetoseeitlol Yeah, no. its pretty obvious when someone is backpedaling, even MM.

[@eugenesternin6039]

Unrelated to the situation. Could explain, please, why backpedaling is bad? Honest noob question

[@milsivich]

@@eugenesternin6039it's like half speed and there's never a reason to do it instead of strafing. I unbound my backpedal 10 years ago. The only time you'd ever need it is maybe as a tank in pve. So when you've played too much arena, it sticks out as a bizarre and kinda noobie way of moving around, which is why the contrast between the scripted superhuman ability combo and then his movement is so hilarious

[@SamE-k9g]

the whole opener was cleaner than jellybeans then procedes to go 1300 hardstuck solo shuffle back peddling movements funny as hell

[@davydemaseneer999]

and some idiots actually think its coincidence.... x_x

[@michaellawrence6738]

Pika, I was the hunter shadewalker. Glad I could be a part of you bringing cheaters to light but I would like you to clarify a few things. I was the hunter TEAMMATE you where playing with in your sisters BFs guild. Not gemstone. Keep up the great work and love your content

[@michaellawrence6738]

Only because I don’t need to be spam reported for being a cheater…

[@gordonramsayfanatic]

"i'm the ass hunter..." - Gemstone from Kel Thuzad

[@Sevenar7]

Cheater afraid of being banned

[@trentongardner2106]

Pika? Probably right. The low rated hunter pika is mad that feined one opener in a game that he plays all day. Everyday is crazy. He should just be better if he doesn't want this to happen.

[@treepeople1094]

You're trolling right ?​@@trentongardner2106

[@RaduAdrian-f7k]

He comments like someone who actually cheats lmao.

[@davydemaseneer999]

@@trentongardner2106 learn to make sense first, before commenting on the internet. you're probably a lfg pve'r considering your logic.

[@Toad-yv8ko]

Justice for Gemstone Dude might not have won the match, he's obviously cheating but he won our hearts with the S-tier entertainment

[@shadowbanned3044]

How is he cheating? It's just a random low rated hunter with 40% win rate lmao...

[@joeschmoe-q1d]

​@shadowbanned3044 you stupid? He tells in the video and yesterday's video can you listen? Lol smh

[@joshuaoberrauch6220]

did you watch the video?@@shadowbanned3044

[@DethrowDestruction]

@@shadowbanned3044 did u even watch the clip

[@shadowbanned3044]

@@DethrowDestructionYes and I explained in several comments why there is no cheating. Pika and his mods start to delete the comments, obviously. Everyone with an IQ of 20 or higher can look up how scripts work. Since this guy is not using a bot but is being accused of using a script, literally what the video shows contradicts this. All you see is a random low rated, clueless hunter (his win rate confirms that) and poop Blizzard servers. There is literally not one single logical argument why a script would need 1,5 seconds to use trinket, which is not a global cooldown. If you want to accuse him of cheating because he is pressing 2 buttons in 3 seconds (which is not even special in the first place) then you have to bring up at least one logical argument how he is "too fast" and too slow at the same time if he is apparently scripting. That's not how scripting works.

[@SlackinPanda]

I don't think his WR being low with a lot of games justifies anything. If anything, it's more suspicious, how you 1700 at that negative a WR. If only we could see CR gains in a graph form to see how his CR has gone recently, a big spike recently could be a chest activated moment. Not that I care, cheaters are off the charts right now Blizz really needs do something.

[@trentongardner2106]

Lol my mm has negative win rate, but I'm 1800 in twos on him. I didn't start winning until I got a good druid that actually could root and cc. Which you don't really find around that cr often. So your logic is completely flawed. I could prove it to you. I also have pulled off this play multiple times. Not because of skill but just because I threw a hail mary knowing that they would open and kill me anyways.

[@RaimaNd]

In Counterstrike there is a cheater which spins your character around very fast and you automatically kill everyone even through walls who comes near you. And there are people who use this cheat and still are in the lowest ranks and lose games. So yeah a bad win rate doesn't mean someone is clean.

[@SlackinPanda]

@@trentongardner2106 my guess is you are not 1800 at ~35% win rate, that requires that you lost a LOOOOOT and only recently started to win; ive sat at 1800 CR at 46% WR. Its not really flawed logic, but you have your opinion and i have mine so we will call it square

[@keats27]

yeah it's CLEARLY a trigger

[@ThatCasulGuy]

Next season smurf boost has got to be called Damnjustdamn or similar within character cap.

[@rfrye81]

I'm with Pika on this, dudes cheating!

[@glndopangamer]

whoever is not with Pika on this is also a cheater, can't convince me otherwise

[@maxim2465]

​@@glndopangamer okay, that makes no sense but you are entitled to feel that way

[@umbravox1139]

@@maxim2465 It makes sense only someone delusional enough to cheat would be delusional enough to not think this dudes cheating.

[@glndopangamer]

@@maxim2465 you cheat too

[@lukashetzler7574]

Pika,did you use shadow blade before stun? if so, I would understand that the hunter gave death

[@jimmykunkel]

This is the teacher trying to catch dash putting a tack on his chair in the incredibles. “Coincidence?? I think NOT!” 😂

[@BlitzDG]

My favorite KZbin vid from this channel in a year. Don't back down lol. Most blatant thing I've ever seen.

[@trentongardner2106]

Your brain doesn't work. I'm sorry for you.

[@Mantra555]

You can pause the video and advance by one frame at a time by pressing “.” This will help a TON with these reviews and breakdowns. “,” goes back one frame at a time as well.

[@brjones27]

I've seen guys move that fast. I have too. I jumped once, hit three things, got stunned (while in the air), and trinketed all before landing on the ground again. Add in castsequence macros, yea it's possible, imo.

[@brandonchambers412]

People are trying to explain how he did everything but the point is not each individual action happening it’s the fact that all of it happened within about 3-4 seconds. If it was just the feign death it would be plausible but the fact that he countered absolutely everything in the opener with inhuman reaction times is the point. If you think that needs further explanation then god damn 😂

[@jwaves.]

wasnt talked about in the video but after the inhuman feign death, the hunter does not trinket until the exact moment he started taking damage, what a freak of nature this guy is to have reaction time like that

[@Telarius]

Being "Ass" Is exactly what cheaters are...tho...it dosent instantly make all gameplay insane. Its even more suspicious when the player backpeddals, is clearly dogwater, yet does mechanical/instantly timed abilities/cc near-perfecly responded. in FPS games, the lowest teir of cheater is the "Trashcan", aka the most common 1 as well. Where they have no gamesense/awarness, yet do mechanical movements like shooting/perfect spread insanely well. A noobie cheater. This is what this dude is. The "I dont even know what a script is" statement is also common among noobie cheaters, as you know what the most common low-iq lie is? A complete opposition claim. "You take steroids dont u?" Response: "I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT ST-A-R-E O I DOOOOS ARE DUDE, how could i take whatever u just said?" The nasty cheaters are the hard 1s to tell, they're decent at thegame but still cheat The "ASs" player is more likely to cheat, and try to live in that cheating reality as if they're not a cheater.

[@tristansmith8332]

i never really like to admit it but im not a very good pvper in wow. i played hunter a lot when i did play and one thing i used to do when i was fighting a stealthy was feign death as soon as i say them come out of stealth. for whatever reason i thought it gave me an advantage to get the first hit. i was young and to me that was the most effective way to win. now i know that he feigned your cheap shot. but just before you used your cheap shot at 10:48 the hunter on your team came out of stealth, or at least thats what it looks like (i could be wrong i havent played wow in a long time), and gemshot may have just been doing what i used to do. now the timing of it is crazy not to mention all the spells used in the short amount of time along with the scattershot. but the opener after the feign could be explained through gemshot just blowing their load off rip, which i used to do, cause they have done the same thing over and over. i know when i watch you play sometimes it seems like the openers, and basically during the whole fight, the things you do are just not really possible but youve played thousands and thousands of arenas. you know what to do at all times. gemshot may only know what to in the opener cause he cant really make it past the opener. maybe he is cheating, maybe he miss clicked, maybe he got lucky with timing idk. but just to say that he is cheating after 1 game that lasts less than 2 mins and even less time in combat is a bit much.

[@Mortal209]

Go look at the videos online of people hacking in PvP and you'll rethink your entire comment of "I don't know if he's cheating, maybe he's like me and getting lucky" - there are literal bot scripts that do this for you. It's nothing new either, it's been around for years and you can find videos of people using them in rated arenas constantly because they hardly ever get banned. It's how it is with several games that have PvP in them - you will always have people making bots in order to fight against others, only now they're using AI learning in the bot script in order to fully flesh things out. In fact people were admitting to it in Runescape and even in WoW during TBC and early WotLK Classic. Though 90% of the bots you see are just the standard bots who do the monotonous things that others don't want to - such as leveling, grinding and auctioning things off/sniping things on the auction house the moment they get posted.

[@drjjloveman]

As a mage when i hear the stealth noise i immediately hit frost nova and start running. Not sure if this is similar.

[@Brutalismus_]

Yeah the insta feign>trinket>trap>disengage>scatter>sniper shot isnt happening by a 1600 player

[@Dozu]

One of the funniest videos I've seen in a while 😂😂😂

[@TFreed]

Ight lets break this guy down. 1. Claims to be huge Pika fan and to be only WoW streamer he watches then brings up how he knew Pika spent a lot of time editing. That's a lie. If you watch Pika, We all know Ed does the editing for Pika. 2. Claims he had to watch Pikas video to find out what a script was. Pikas video isnt a explanation of what a script is. It was exposing him. If he really didnt know what a script was he'd be googling it or researching it. So saying that he watched Pikas video (when he was already watching it in the first place) to get an explanation of what a script is, is another lie and makes 0 sense. 3. If you play video games in an online setting such as WoW or CoD or Apex or FFXIV etc etc. You are WELL AWARE of what hacking and cheating is. Dont play dumb. 4. Writes a giant paragraph painting himself as the victim of accusation. IF you were actually innocent you wouldn't waste your time trying to defend yourself because you would know it to not be true and wouldnt care what anyone else thinks. 5. People who claim he couldve "gotten lucky" with the feign death. Okay fair enough. Lets ASSUME he got lucky. What happened after that. The hunter (within a second) trinketed, swapped target. tar trapped, swapped target, disengage, swap target, scatter on Pika's team mate, then goes for his opener. IF he was actually good enough to react like this and get his opener off this quickly he wouldve been smart enough to not sniper shot the wrong kill target from 3 feet away or even be running sniper shot in the first place...... IF you had the skills to play and react this quickly then you wouldnt be making such blatant mistakes and backpedaling elsewhere. This is how WE KNOW he is hacking.

[@travis339]

Plot twist: Pika is multiboxing and was playing the hunter while he was playing his rogue, then proceeding to make comments on his own videos with his bot farm.

[@ericmacfarlane1437]

My brother and I just fought blatant cheaters at 1400 so, it happens at low ratings too

[@trentongardner2106]

No yall didn't. You just suck and people way better than you made feel like they were cheating by dumping on you. Enjoy coping thou.

[@Vikwak]

If youre at 1400 rating im pretty sure youre just outplayed by a better player. I would expect a multi rank 1 to know what hes talking about not a 1400 rated played

[@Minerals333]

@@Vikwakof course there’s cheaters at 1400.. who do you think the target audience of these scripts is?

[@DM-tw6vd]

@@Vikwak I played mutiple cheaters from 1200-1800 lol, we talk in solo shuffle chat to discuss how to fuck the bot with LoS, seen both healers and dps bots

[@YukeInRealLife]

Pika, use comma and dot on the keyboard. You can go through a KZbin video frame by frame

[@Froz3nProduce]

damn...... just damn..... i use faint depth faster than pikaboo one time and now I'm being mass reported as a cheater........

[@bonafidehustler-entreprene8781]

THE BOT CLEARLY DOES THE OPENER, THEN HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT TO DO, WHICH IS WHY HE SNIPERED AND BACKPEDDLED.

[@darkcursse2709]

Supatease has a video on a cheater he ran into that was playing DH in Blackrook Hold Arena. He exposed this person by using the little cubby inbetween the 2 door ways. The DH wouldn't go thru the door if he stood there, it would just run at the wall pressing cd's doing nothing. But if he did play out in the arena the DH was doing crazy dmg and making crazy plays. IT was just that spot of LOS that exposed it.

[@aceylaboy9773]

Changes target to scatter in midst of everything xd even if he tab targets like me which makes it more odd.. WoW man

[@timsamuelson5397]

This has happened to me almost a year ago … it felt like I was being cheated every time I’d blind or cheap or ANYTHING it would get feign deathed.. I ended up quitting wow bc I noticed more and more cheating 😂

[@maxcasas10]

Let’s put it in an APM perspective. He clicks 10 buttons in about 1 second 10*60=600apm…. This man’s apm is triple the apm of a professional StarCraft player… This is all the proof you need.

[@HlghV0LTag3]

The scatter without targeting can be a mouseover macro, i use them a lot.. but even then it hits just as surv comes out of camo lol, no way this was a "lucky" sequence xD

[@mmpurplecloud]

Dear Slim, I wrote you, but you still ain’t callin’ I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not’ve got ’em.. Anyways, I hope you get this, man, hit me back Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan, this is Stan

[@mdurrani]

omfg 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@sexyelon]

😂😂😂😂

[@ohemge12]

nah guy seems sincere, however pikas using youtube without dark mode so he's obviously a psycho, if there was any doubt left

[@Rambo_Florian]

This troll is subpar to only one other troll. A literal troll. A troll with haste. 1 star surge... 2 star surge... 😢

[@Pwnking36]

when the customer said he can find a bot for cheaper.....

[@tj8606]

I was totally one of those defenders of the hunter before. But after this breakdown, I realize I don't have nearly the understanding of the game I used to (havent played this expansion, or much of the previous one). Definitely sus, thank you pika for this breakdown. Opened my eyes. Prayers for the gamers dealing with the cheaters.... It used to be a handful of players cheating at the highest level. Now its everyone, even low rated players, having access to cheats to ruin the integrity of the game. Scary. Thank you Pika for enlightening us with your wisdom!

[@SHUTDOORproduction]

You should test if jelly could pull this off

[@justinmays5091]

The FD is the only thing weird. everything else is normal for a 1600 hunter. Trust me 😥

[@joemartinez6623]

Just wait until you hit 2.2k rbgs. The boomies use a disarm script so that the millisecond you hit dance you get disarmed.

[@Bigalwarrior]

Log into a Hunter and try to copy him, I’m curious to see what that would look like.

[@Youngillidan]

Can’t you make a macro for arena 1, 2, 3 and whatever spell to attack without targeting?

[@handsie221]

dudes comment said he was trying to get better or whatever (probably wasn't even really him) and is still backpedaling. If you backpedal, you are not trying to get better. end of story.

[@ruitorrao_]

Pika is feeling the 30's coming :P

[@jeremyjohnson6824]

Been playing hunter main since Cata. Two time glad otherwise hard stuck duelist. I saw everything he did in the first video and I was so confused Pika never pointed out the FD trinket trap disenage scatter. The amount of awareness you have to have to pull that combo off is way above whatever I'm doing. Also I'd like to point out he claimed they beat you? I think he forgot they lost like he forgot his program was running? Something to keep in mind with the botters I've seen is they tend to try and fit things in that don't work. For example the GCDs on tar trap, disenage, and scatter would lead any competent hunter to realize they don't have enough time to get off sniper shot inside the ferals stun duration (which means this is the easiest don't trinket step disarm disarm ever). On use trinket,racial (if applicable), and trueshot are off GCD which means you could essentially get a full value rapid fire off, if the rogue doesn't trinket. Toodles.

[@lukenuked]

The ultimate chatgpt turing test.

[@caste215]

Fellow adventurers, I am Gemstone, the Hunter Extraordinaire. Accusations of cheating are but whispers against the thunderous clash of my bow and blade. My victories are earned through skill, not sorcery. Judge me by my deeds, not idle chatter. With unwavering resolve, Gemstone stands tall.

[@lukeinator_]

what the fuck

[@jameskim1505]

Bravo mate 😀😀😀

[@Avdbz]

Did you use some kind of macro that only triggers on combat? So you could theoretcally mash buttons before?

[@stat4977]

This is just a cringe attention seeker trying to impersonate someone else. Please get a life homie.

[@bengixd]

Damn... Just... Damn...

[@KellyDeanWasHere]

Jellybeans renamed his hunter and is hunting down the move

[@alegardork]

10:40 "youtube on light mode?" LOL

[@CyndiL.]

Toon to test his bots? 😂

[@MetexoraGaming]

I feel ive done something similar before, by pure chance. Gemstone, if your hard focusing to improve, you have VOD's right? :) Why not upload and share? PS: Wiz's Spirit Link kill is still sus af xD

[@RaimaNd]

I asked him to upload videos which you can see in the video. Of course he didn't upload anything.

[@VDViktor]

I used to be a 0.1% snd cod player and that kinda sht happens in fps all the time. I’d see a blatant wallhacker, and then some clowns would jump in defending them with the “but his kd is only 1.5, that means hes not cheating, otherwise it would’ve been 4+” Nah homie, sometimes ppl just suck THAT BAD. I mean, they are using cheats cause they suck in the firet place.

[@azaphakaylock2789]

What the hunter fails to realize is its actually easier to see the scripts if you suck because of the massive contrast in skill play. In the case here the hunters GCD usage and respond times are inhuman but the actual movement control is beyond bad, it just doesn't line up as "lucky" going from not seeing anyone to conveniently fatfingering Feign Death on the exact GCD cheap shot lands ? then uses all abilitys in perfect sequence before showing off backpeddling xD. come on man admit your scrips are bad

[@Machinima5000]

I have a disengage/ cast@player tar trap /targetlasttarget macro

[@Machinima5000]

I also have a mouseover scattershot macro

[@Machinima5000]

my traps are all @cursor too

[@Minerals333]

The trap lands under pika so not a @player macro, I also presume you’re not 1700 with negative win loss

[@MrAsmil]

people absolutely cheat in pve as well, that being said i dont think its as common as it was back in wrath, so like its nothing new

[@MrRedrud]

Content is golden! Keep it up pika!

[@quontonweese8056]

This is a boohoo banned moment

[@bicboy17]

I’m cracking up

[@familyLe297]

I don’t even play retail anymore but I hella want to know how this shit works. Feels like weak auras that push your buttons for you but way faster. Is there a guy moving around getting his inputs pushed by a bot or is it a straight bot?

[@jgro9]

id say its like a 1 in a million chance with the feign so its possible i guess, he could have even hit it on accident...but everything else after? nahh bro. nice try lol.

[@milsivich]

the contrast between the INSANE stream of 0ms reaction abilities and the sniper shot backpedal no CD usage is HILARIOUS. My guy is still using the free trial version of the software

[@Eyeriz96]

"it barely took anytime at all" lmao

[@endzeit931]

This is just cringed to make comments like that while the sequence of trinket tar trap, disengage, Scatter of target in a second. The more you rewatch the opener the more you see he using something

[@decadunce]

he is just the best hunter in the world i do not understand the hate hello team

[@jejxkxk]

LMAO this is the most bizarre thing i’ve seen all day. Dude even cheats on youtube roflmao can’t do anything legit. Not to mention you have to aim both of those shots. Not to mention that the youtube comments all have the exact same style of poor grammar

[@jc6087]

Ive played hunter since 2009 and cleared every raid tier at the highest level up to present day, ive played rogue since 2011 same story, ive been glad on multiple classes including hunter and rogue. Its not humanly possible to have the reactions to feign death a cheapshot. Its the same tech as a kickbot, you ever tried to duke someone with a kickbot?

[@deqwanjefferson2969]

Pika playing against chatgpt and getting trolled in the comments by chatgpt

[@weary867]

Skynet taking out key figures

[@Zetherior]

99% of cheaters only cheat a "little bit" for instance they'll have a bot to automate certain things while they're playing normally. perfectly countering openers seems like a popular bot.

[@charlespanache7047]

Especially as a hunter. Imagine being able to hit this setup anytime your ccd. Even scatters the team mate too. It's soo good

[@BK-sx5ps]

This is it

[@mysticfarfadet]

Pika should learn the ",'" and "." keybinds for frame by frame on youtube, game changer.

[@generalgrievuuz]

That was my biggest takeaway as well, was painful to watch him try to locate frames without the frame-by-frame keybinds.

[@adbirdk]

Can we get this liked by the creator?

[@Iggy727]

Ty for teaching me these ❤

[@newtonsclaw5304]

I think this hunter is an AI trying to learn

[@abdulrahmanabdulla1567]

why does this makes alot of sense

[@Mrkitsith666]

Probably made by blizzard since no one plays anymore and they need to make it look like they do. Also would make sense since these people don't get banned.

[@zizouwowist1641]

nope your just wishing@@Mrkitsith666

[@Mrkitsith666]

@@zizouwowist1641Everyone my name is Zizouwowist1641! Join me, gather around and eat the shit out of blizzards hand like good consumers! MMMM ITS SOOO GOOD IM GOING TO HOP BACK ON AND AFK IN VAL WHILE WAITING MY 30 MIN SS Q TIME, EVERYONE SAY THANK YOU BLIZZARD! I LOVE THE TASTE OF SHIT AND WILL KEEP PAYING TO EAT IT!

[@Boo-QuiQui]

The fact people even argued that he doesnt script is mind blowing. Neither of the guys were out of stealth yet and he feigns the millisecond the cheap goes off? Bro there was nothing to feign otherwise. The rogue would’ve had time to avoid an opener on a feigned character. People are too brain dead to realize this isn’t just a “coincidence”

[@Ali-cr9ex]

The hunter came out of stealth and the guy feign deathed as soon as the hunter got into his line... this is probably not cheating lol

[@bersercker]

Go back to that video comment section, it's just as Pika said at 9:19 all those comments are basically different variations of the same argument all probably by the same guy as well, this was an elaborate troll to get Pika's attention. Pretty amusing overall.

[@WetDreamcast]

If Gemstone plays with 60fps it would have been a reaction time of 16.6 milliseconds or say he is playing with 120 that's a 8.3 millisecond reaction time. The Feign Death comes 1 frame after cheap shot is pressed, lets say he got lucky with that random press. He presses Feign Death at 8:32 then the next press is at 8:34 for the trinket, 16 frames later is when the tar trap is thrown on top of Pika. Now from what I have seen on Pika's screen it took 16 frames for the trap to appear on screen so, according to me looking at my own hunter traps frame data once you press the tar trap it will take 16 frames for it to appear which means he pressed tar trap on the exact frame the trinket was pressed. The disengage is harder to see but it's around 40 frames after the tar trap give or take. Looks like 40 frames after Disengage is pressed is when Scatter Shot is pressed according to pika's addon thingy in the middle of screen at 8:35. Then presses Sniper Shot 77 frames after Scatter Shot (which would've been pressed on 8:36 but Pika paused the video). So after reviewing the footage frame by frame he either got extremely lucky pressing all of these buttons within 4 seconds or he is cheating with some type of script that is used to do all this within 4 seconds.

[@WetDreamcast]

Forgot to mention he switches targets from Shadewallker to Pika then back to Shadewalker. Takes 28 frames to switch to pika after targeting Shade, then 56 frames to switch back to Shade for Scatter Shot. From 8:34 to late 8:35 is when the target switching occurs.

[@trentongardner2106]

​@@berserckerpika nut gobbler. Crazy. How does it taste

[@TGoO14]

Damn bro the editor works quick i just in the stream watching this

[@JamesV1]

I’m sure he just has a 0.1ms reaction time, totally normal and human!

[@shadowbanned3044]

Holy moly... so many people here literally on bot level and follow pika like a dictator... You guys need to use your own brain and now follow someone like a sheep. That hunter is a low rated pleb with 40% win rate and even just 35% on a BM, if you think that's the stats what those op cheating bots are doing, then you clearly and evidently failed to comprehend the purpose of cheating in the first place. Using FD was basically his entire "op play" which he most likely panic pressed because he saw rogue in stealth, which is absolutely valid. The next play is something you see hunters do all the time at low rating, literally nothing too special. The only argument you can bring up here is that he forgot to turtle as well on top of all these buttons, to make it even more of a low rated play.

[@dhighruler]

@@shadowbanned3044 Dude quit it with the alts. Everyone knows you cheated.

[@shadowbanned3044]

@@dhighrulerLmao... Imagine thinking I am this guy because you fail to comprehend what you see in the video and need to obey what pika says omg I couldn't play a hunter at 40% win rate, even if I wanted rofl

[@trentongardner2106]

​@dhighruler lol you are remedial. There is no doubt. Think this just pressed that button to avoid cc instead of it just being a damage reduction to not get one shot by mm and a rogue. But I guess you guys just love pika's sack sweat on your lips.

[@steveholt5115]

@@shadowbanned3044it’s not cause it’s op it’s cause it nullifies being opened on 😂 if you suck then you suck and cheats won’t make you climb rating. Don’t be so mean man we love you

[@fig7615]

this is definitely a dude who died to rogues so many times he thinks it's an unfair class so he rage downloads a script like this.

[@sexyelon]

Fo sure

[@shadowbanned3044]

Holy moly... so many people here literally on bot level and follow pika like a dictator... You guys need to use your own brain and now follow someone like a sheep. That hunter is a low rated pleb with 40% win rate and even just 35% on a BM, if you think that's the stats what those op cheating bots are doing, then you clearly and evidently failed to comprehend the purpose of cheating in the first place. Using FD was basically his entire "op play" which he most likely panic pressed because he saw rogue in stealth, which is absolutely valid. The next play is something you see hunters do all the time at low rating, literally nothing too special. The only argument you can bring up here is that he forgot to turtle as well on top of all these buttons, to make it even more of a low rated play.

[@DogYearBlues]

​@@shadowbanned3044yap yap, gemstone alt? Did you even see how immaculate that timing was, FD the very millisecond that CS went out, just stop bro

[@shadowbanned3044]

@@DogYearBluesThe issue is you are being just on the same bot level like this guy. You obviously have zero pvp xp... Why? Because you think he pressed FD to avoid cc. That's not what he is doing. He can't see the future. How about you phrase it different, like "he pressed FD two seconds after he saw pika in stealth"? Now does that sound like an awesome and impossible play? Not anymore, huh? Also, he is not botting, that means he is using a script. (if you want to accuse him of any cheating) Have you ever wrote a script? I doubt it because you lack any logical reason to comprehend what's going on. What most likely happened is that the guy saw pika in stealth (which is really nothing special) and instead of using mark, scatter, stun, trap whatever... he panic'd and pressed FD like most hunters who panic and have no clue what to press. Literally nothing special about it lmao... but hey, come on... use ur PvP xp and prove me wrong, I'd gladly see at least one proper argument on this comment section why this guy is apparently cheating. Literally any donkey would comprehend that there is no script involved. Go check a YT video on how scripts are written lmao... how do you even tie your shoes without breaking your neck omg... that logic tho...

[@trentongardner2106]

​@DogYearBlues lmao. Your a kid. No one cares about your opinion that is wrong.

[@WetDreamcast]

I posted this in one of the replies so thought I'd post it on it's own I went through the play frame by frame this is what I got. If Gemstone plays with 60fps it would have been a reaction time of 16.6 milliseconds or say he is playing with 120 that's a 8.3 millisecond reaction time. The Feign Death comes 1 frame after cheap shot is pressed, lets say he got lucky with that random press. He presses Feign Death at 8:32 then the next press is at 8:34 for the trinket, 16 frames later is when the tar trap is thrown on top of Pika. Now from what I have seen on Pika's screen it took 16 frames for the trap to appear on screen so, according to me looking at my own hunter traps frame data once you press the tar trap it will take 16 frames for it to appear which means he pressed tar trap on the exact frame the trinket was pressed. The disengage is harder to see but it's around 40 frames after the tar trap give or take. Looks like 40 frames after Disengage is pressed is when Scatter Shot is pressed according to pika's addon thingy in the middle of screen at 8:35. Then presses Sniper Shot 77 frames after Scatter Shot (which would've been pressed on 8:36 but Pika paused the video). So after reviewing the footage frame by frame he either got extremely lucky pressing all of these buttons within 4 seconds or he is cheating with some type of script that is used to do all this within 4 seconds. He switches targets from Shadewallker to Pika then back to Shadewalker. Takes 28 frames to switch to pika after targeting Shade, then 56 frames to switch back to Shade for Scatter Shot. From 8:34 to late 8:35 is when the target switching occurs.

[@backhairisbeautiful2253]

he fein deathed the second the hunter came out of stealth....not sure how that's not obvious...this guy isnt' cheating.....there are alot of players who are lower rated who do cool shit and think outside the box even if they dont really understand the grander scheme of arena....these are the type of players who would excel in an rbg environment where theres alot more skill expression. This hunter did a cool thing coming out stealth first on the pillar and he had in mind every button he was going to press before they opened and he executed it extremely well. he just got lucky with the fein on the cheap shot but he was going to trinket first cc on him regardless and tar trap the rogue.

[@cuneytunsal5422]

​@@backhairisbeautiful2253 how did he react to stun from stealth dude? Its not like pikas rogue gets visible or he gets a text before stun hits. Lets say it was pure coincidence, then he cross ccs pikas teammate in a second, after that he forgots how control his character starts backpedalling and uses most useless spells known to hunter in that position 😂.

[@WetDreamcast]

@@backhairisbeautiful2253 Not necessarily the "second he came out" it looks like it took 19 frames which is about 316 MS I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say half a second. Seems alright, not saying he's "cheating" or "not cheating" just a mediary giving info on what I see. The decision you come to (cheating or not) is what you make of the info.

[@bamxz9336]

​@@backhairisbeautiful2253"skill expression" "rbg" 😂😂😂😂 This guy doesn't know what's going on and neither do you, what are you on

[@MarijuanaFireFighter]

"an rbg environment where theres alot more skill expression." lol WHUT@@backhairisbeautiful2253

[@ssjbardock79]

Guy is probably a programmer and is testing his scripts and doesn't give a f about the account. That youtube profile of his is pure comedy gold. 😂

[@garneet]

LOL this is the funniest video ever what the fuck

[@feelsgood4603]

"I cant even install games idk how. Im on my bros pc"

[@Cjeska]

Trinket/Tar Trap/Disengage in one move is either the dumbest thing to ever macro together or it's a cheater.

[@barthouweling4787]

How is it so fast though? Does he live in the server building? 1ms latency?

[@johnnyll91]

Guy got a solid gaming chair, obviously not cheating. Good chair = win

[@JaxonRabbit]

think about the average player, realise half the players are worse than that

[@Dudeuseyourb]

this entire thing has me WEAK.. me thinking this was gonna be an apology video..

[@Keylandors]

same thing , wtf claiming we bots in comments instead of apology with damn NEWBIE hunter

[@wetakethosebreaks7942]

definitely gonna be in the run for top gas light 2024 see you guys in december for the awards

[@josephtasic3363]

If you're botting or scripting and you run into Pika in 2s, just turn it all off, take the L and move on. At least then you don't get reported.

[@superpudd1]

The best part is dude still took the L anyway lol

[@Grimlocked]

The "It barely took anytime" when he said it probably took a while to edit this LMFAOOOOO I CANNOT DUDE

[@elmurodemorgnalas2834]

The ego of this guy is so dumb.

[@TheSourbutts]

"sorry pika i just fluked my feign death on your cheap shot and accidentally insta trinket, tar trap, disengage, focus scatter shot into sniper shot" haha sorry bro just lucky i guess.

[@trentongardner2106]

Lol what's funny isni do this play. Not an accident. Just hope I get lucky on the fein. It's the only way to really mess up a double stealth open if you don't pull them out first. Insane that people don't recognize that.

[@Minerals333]

So you feign, trinket, tar trap, click tar trap location, disengage, change target, scatter, all in the same global? Damn bro it’s nice to meet bicmex in the comments

[@JamalCorrie]

Pika please look up my post on the forums about CAPTCHA for botting. Please push blizzard to employ a "BOT CHECK" system in the game where players can bot check other players, sort of like a ready check but sends a series of tests that only a player can complete. This is the only way to 100% check if someone is botting in a game, per game. It's not good to call someone a cheater if you dont have proof, and can backfire brother. Please advocate for a BOT CHECK system in game for bots

[@westcoasterzz]

basic hunter opening nothing to see here

[@Fullertits]

a cheater would type a long drawn out paragraph defending himself, even threw in the "only streamer i watch" an innocent person would laugh and not even comment

[@Mopper101]

Then why didn’t literally any of the people who he called about before in videos say anything what so ever? Zero logic lmao.

[@Fullertits]

@@Mopper101 dont return to the scene of a crime is rule number one dawg

[@Mopper101]

@@Fullertits that’s an illegitimate response. He’s made many videos like this with WAY more blatant cheating and no one defending them. None of them have came and defended themselves. You’re literally contradicting yourself.

[@Fullertits]

@@Mopper101 is this gemstone kel thuzad burner?

[@Mopper101]

@@Fullertits nice debating with you. It’s clear you’re 12 lol. Sorry my logic broke the last of your brain cells. Take care kiddo.

[@Dozu]

Nah this is hilarious 😂 dude is def cheating and his ChatGPT comment is the icing on the cake 😂

[@Mute_NE]

sorry pika gemstone the hunter just exists in a higher dimension than the rest of us

[@davidwagner1040]

Gotta bring Jelly in for the Hunter opinion

[@shadowbanned3044]

If you follow opinions because of their authority then rip you...use logic instead of following blindly an opinion solely because of their position of power.

[@davidwagner1040]

@@shadowbanned3044 what kinda edgy shit is this response. I want his opinion because he's a AWC winning hunter main

[@calisto2735]

@@shadowbanned3044 It's not a position of power, it's an expert opinion... worlds apart. Next time you break ur leg, don't go to the doctor, because his opinion is irrelevant due to his "position of power", huh? :D

[@shadowbanned3044]

@@calisto2735 _It's not a position of power, it's an expert opinion... worlds apart._ You just literally confirmed it lmao... his position of power IS being an expert. _Next time you break ur leg, don't go to the doctor, because his opinion is irrelevant due to his "position of power", huh?_ Failed logic. You would have to say: "When you break your leg, don't you ask the doctor it's broken?" And the answer is: No, I don't ask him if the leg is broken. I fking broke it, I see it lmao... Noticed the difference? I really, really hope you did.

[@andymelgar4980]

@@trentongardner2106bro no one buying into your bs just stop it already

[@zacsuddy9112]

Imagine treating one of your IRL friends like you were never friends and telling your stream he's weird and lame, and you were never really even cool. lmao. because that friend got upset that you wanted to kick him from the team for "the weekend" so you didnt have to split the prize money with him.

[@DriplessShrimp]

Huh?

[@CatalysedCat]

Just think logically, why would an awc competitor let alone winner accuse some random people at 1700 mmr of cheating, if he wasnt damn sure of it 🤔? Basically betting a good part of his rep and career on it. Honestly in over 3k hours of wow play i also havent seen this sort of "fluke", and the backpeddling combined with it is just... nah. There's an absolutely miniscule chance this guy is telling the truth and "innocent till proven guilty", but if i were a betting man I'd bet the hunter was running weird scripts 🎉

[@Daieon]

I have def randomly feigned stuff before but dang, thats a lot of buttons out of trinket played perfectly to only sniper shot and back pedal afterwards lol

[@trentongardner2106]

Easy to press buttons. Harder to understand exactly why you should just Salvo volley macro or rapid fire instead. I backpeddle on mm all the time. You can cast spells while doing it so it rewards it sometime. Which can make it a bad habit. I play every class. I don't do it on any other. Simply because there isn't functional gain from it. I'm higher rated than this guy and backpeddle sometimes. Sorry that makes your argument look stupid, but that's because your argument is infact stupid.

[@RaimaNd]

The feign death isn't even that special. A lot of people do that including myself. It doesn't work all the time but often. Same logic as vanishing blinds/stuns or using shadow word: death against blind. Even the abilities used afterwards are completely fine. The issue are two things: 1. His targeting. He obviously fights against his bot, he wants to target something else than the bot wants. He scatter shots the hunter and after that only targets him. 2. After this opener which a lot of 2.5k+ rated player can do he plays like he never played WoW before. Full on backpaddeling doing nothing for 10 seconds. Also that aimed shot was a joke.

[@ReecesPcs]

@@RaimaNd this is not the same, i have never deathed a blind from randomly casting death lmao its always from my suspicion that i was gonna be blinded so i death it but this hunter has 0 info on pika to know when to feign

[@Minerals333]

@@trentongardner2106how are they easy to press buttons? Man is pressing 3 buttons off gcd at the same instant whilst targeting a tar trap and changing target 😂

[@trentongardner2106]

@@Minerals333 ya super easy. You learn to do that before you really get positioning down. That's for sure.