Dan Orlovsky Explains Concerns Around Caleb Williams | 12/06/23

ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky joins the Dan Patrick Show and discusses some of his concerns about USC quarterback Caleb Williams

[@crwmdp9]

Chicago going from Fields to Williams is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

[@edgarorozco3513]

😂sinking ship regardless

[@Oohesgotadirtymouth]

Welp it's Caleb

[@seymourbutts4654]

If Chicago is the Titanic they're screwed no matter what .

[@ryannofziger669]

Exactly

[@tedtyson2838]

That was amazing and I'm stealing it

[@frankbauer5729]

Any kid coming out of college thinking that he should have an ownership stake in the team is all I need to know about this kid. Throw in the fact that his dad is attracted to the camera like a moth to the flame. Just not the kind of sideshow I want around Halas Hall and Soldier Field.

[@nicktheman1828]

Well get ready for it. He is a bust.

[@ccarrera951]

Michael Penix Jr . ... you're trippin' if you take anyone other than HIM .

[@efg1311]

The stake in ownership thing is being taken way out of context so you’re an idiot if you say, “that’s all I need to know about this kid”. Trust me, he doesn’t want to play for the Bears anyways; nobody does.

[@matthewrose8002]

@@ccarrera951Thing is you can get Penix in a later round.

[@Philtration]

There is plenty more to know about him. He makes bad decisions on the field, he struggles from the pocket when blitzed, he holds the ball too long, he stands away from his teammates on the sideline, he is short, his father is an attention seeking, bad influence much like LaMelo and Lonzo Ball's father and brings drama to the table, and Williams is a crybaby. He has bust written all over him while Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels look like the better NFL QBs in this draft.@@efg1311

[@xavierm4866]

I'm a big USC football fan. I think Caleb is tremendously talented. Dan does a good job of breaking down his concerns of Caleb. Only time will tell how the dude develops and performs in the NFL. Will be watching and rooting for him! ✌️

[@Nite2012Mare]

As an Irish fan...I knew our defense would give him problems.

[@entertained...]

@@Nite2012Mare '23 nd defense was better and definitely ready for him, but sc was also a worse team overall in '23 - perfect storm.

[@Nite2012Mare]

@@entertained... AL smoked him out consistently. I bet many $$ with cocky USC fans 😂😂

[@uncklebuckle6859]

Orlovsky has a point, IMHO. Ex: Johnny Manziel thrived improvising in college, but it didn’t translate to the NFL. “In structure” is key in pro ball.

[@nicolasmartinez795]

That and watching USC games he has so much time in the pocket for all the improvising, in the NFL he'll have on average of 3 seconds to get rid of the football, probably less

[@Spooky_515]

Williams has bust written all over him. Add to the fact that he’s going to the bears, look at all the QB’s they’ve drafted that were top of the draft class. You can’t tell me that a few of them wouldn’t have had longer careers if they’d been drafted elsewhere. One of the last places I’d want to go if I was a young QB. They even kill of QB’s that have succeeded on other teams. Forget about it lol

[@savage4242]

​@@nicolasmartinez795what the fuck are you talking about. He had one of the worst lines in CFB 😂

[@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om]

Nonsense. He had a good line with 5 5 star recruits on offense. You don't know shiite.

[@entertained...]

@@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om how many of his o-line are 1st day picks in this year's draft? or projected to go in the 1st round next year?

[@emoose3313]

For every Bryce Young/Baker Mayfield theres a Lamar Jackson 6’2 215lbs Brock Purdy - 6’1 220lbs Its ALL about the coaching staff and development.

[@Lebowski55]

Baker Mayfield and Bryce Young are both under 6'.

[@TonydaGM]

Don't stick a fork in Young yet, he is developing. Caleb will have huge issues in the pros if he can't play in structure.

[@fredkruse9444]

@@Lebowski55 Baker measured almost 6' 1" at the combine.

[@ryyanoh]

Purdy sucks

[@TonydaGM]

Don't put Purdy in with Lamar. He is in a great situation

[@Mr___f]

CJ Stroud honestly really killed these pre draft takes. Very few people thought he would be this successful in the NFL and look at him now

[@fbch32]

There was never any doubt about his skills when it came to throwing. There were vague rumors about character issues that barely anyone talked about, but the biggest talk was the S2 test. The test supposedly measures things like processing skills. That was the only concern people had and with his success should mean that the S2 testing people should go out of business

[@EviIM0nk3y]

What happens when he regresses next year? or the year after that? This is only good if he continues to progress. And judging by the franchise he's landed in. That won't be the case

[@Reynolds69er]

The fuck are you talking about 'very few people'? He went 2nd overall

[@TheNrat]

@@Reynolds69erFr people act like he was last pick

[@hendog5396]

Lmao consensus was like 33% CJ at 1, 66% CJ at 2. You’re acting like everyone had him chalked up as a bum 😂

[@zeektv8435]

I’m so confuse on the double standards, everything they say Caleb William needs is the same thing bears fans been asking the Bears to do for Justin Fields I’m a Justin Fields fan, but if I’m being honest, Caleb Williams will be a fool not to try and get drafted by another organization, because in three years he will be traded for another start over because it will be the third set of coaches coming in, wanting their own quarterback that is 1000% bears history

[@MsVC-cs8ks]

But can Caleb read a defense? He’s trained/practiced against Lincoln Riley defenses during his formative years. Caleb may not even be able to handle tough situations or tough coaching, he may have the talent but not the personality for the NFL.

[@DanielFolsom]

That's ... WILD speculation.

[@elcemuziq8514]

He sure runs around a lot. I don’t believe he can read defenses

[@KidHorn7001]

My worry with him is more mental than physical. I think he has the physical tools to succeed. He seems immature to me and no matter how physically talented you are, you have to put in a lot of mental work and be able to handle criticism. With rare exceptions, every QB struggles at first. Can he handle it and is he willing to put in the mental work to succeed? I have my doubts.

[@larrykurtxt6773]

A child in a man's body.

[@Bigload992G]

He’s got the God gifted talent, but he’s also a young entitled kid who’s makin NIL Millions

[@CoolHandLuke196]

based on what?

[@Bigload992G]

@@CoolHandLuke196 Mental/Emotional issues 🤔

[@CoolHandLuke196]

@@Bigload992G which are?

[@jonnovak6856]

I didn't realize Dennis Reynolds knew so much about quarterbacking

[@jayem3720]

Who?

[@dansmith6572]

He sure didn't know where the end of the endzone was

[@spookbusterstirner5865]

@@jayem3720 He looks like the actor Glenn Howerton (like, almost a dead ringer for him), who plays Dennis Reynolds on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

[@dek779]

Caleb Williams has soft bust written all over him. He is not tough enough to play against grown men

[@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645]

Bust potential is HIGH!

[@dek779]

@@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645 If he doesn't go to the right team and coach I agree.

[@anthonyjames4319]

Soft Bust is a brutal nickname.

[@dek779]

@@anthonyjames4319 Lol I t really is. I kinda like it

[@dmanwainright2132]

Soft bust is brilliant Just like Murray, etal

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

the whole running to his mom and crying is the largest red flag for me

[@MONKEYDC0C0]

...

[@Iog0ut]

@@MONKEYDC0C0don’t want a coddled kid as my QB, if you don’t get it you won’t get it but it’s the truth and that’s why it’s still talked about in war rooms

[@user-xd5el3lv3d]

I think he did it knowing the cameras would be on him. He was definitely trying to get sympathy. Not a good look.

[@dmvbay2535]

Not only that...this same dude was liking Tweets on social media a year ago when another rival QB was crying...so he's a hypocrite and entitled mommy's boy.

[@sp123]

Too many scouts overlook character flaws because of talent and it backfires in the long run

[@TheNetflixNook]

Everyone is hoping their next smaller QB is the next Drew Brees but I think people forget just how special Drew was on the field. He was doing things most people on this planet can't do. Regardless of height.

[@elscruffomcscruffy8371]

Brees had the respect and maturity of his team, taking responsibility and leading by example

[@williejohnson5172]

@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 Brees had an all-world OL. Look, pocket passing is great but it is impossible unless you have allworld talent. Period. And it all starts with an all world OL. Without out one you wind up just like Drew Brees; Traded with a busted shoulder. Tom Brady was successful for most of his career because he had a great OL (he did have a few years where his OL was bad) and the "Don't even breath on Tom" rule.

[@bhammy131]

​@williejohnson5172 Brees made everyone around him on offense look all world. That's what sets him apart. His snap to release time was insane. The man made reads on defenses pre and post snap like an absolute surgeon.

[@williejohnson5172]

@@bhammy131 Absolutely. Brees was a great qb. BUT he damn sure didn't make his line allworld. Like I said his busted shoulder and plane ticket out of SD are proof of that.

[@bhammy131]

@williejohnson5172 that was in San Diego at the beginning of his career when he was just an alright QB. In Nola, he was a different QB entirely. You can't compare the two.

[@hawlikd]

What about crying in his mother's arms after a defeat! That looked weak, was not a good look.

[@victorle7693]

And he’s not embarrassed about it. He doesn’t need to apologize about it, but he could joke about it and admit he looked silly. He thinks it’s normal what he did.

[@mythrapi73]

@@victorle7693 that may indicate he is a narcicist if he doesn't recognize his own faults. Not a good luck for the leader of an offense. Reminds me of Derek Carr type

[@dtbredhalf5823]

very...Lambo leaped to his mommy after the lost....soft

[@snave59]

Speaking of not a good look.What about Travis Kelcie,yelling,and grabbing head coach Andy Reid,in the superbowl.Taylor Swift ,better watch out! If she pisses him off,he might kill her!

[@brianeverett6648]

Dan broke this down so well.

[@dkmike2299]

I think Russell Wilsons success as a 5' 10" QB was what really helped those other QBs get drafted high. Drew brees too but Drew was at least listed at 6'. I just remember a lot of people saying Russ was a 1st round talent but his height made him 3rd-4th. Then he had instant success and all of a sudden no one was hesitating with shorter QBs and height wasn't as talked about, but I think GMs and coaches may be getting cold feet again.

[@23Robusto]

There are a lot of sure-fire talents in every draft, not just necessarily at QB. Get some other positions filled that you don't have to think about.

[@VersionBest]

Russell Wilson is 5'11 and Drew Brees is barely 6' on a good day and they were able to win a super bowl so the argument that short QBs don't do well in the NFL is invalid. Also, there are tall QBs in the NFL who has never won a super bowl nor did anything significant with their career so the argument is once again invalid.

[@Edaloy27]

There are exceptions to every rule sit down

[@carlfrye1566]

He was speaking as much about in and out of structure...Brees was prototypical IN structure and Wilson is prototypical OUT OF structure. Wilson benefited from Marshawn Lynch and their great defense and has had less success when both of those were gone. The thing with the NFL is OUT OF/IMPROV QB's have the most trouble in late round playoffs and Super Bowl as the opponents/defenses get better and are more able to force them to stay in the pocket and throw to win games. No it isn't always that way but fact is IN STRUCTURE QB's have gone further in recent years than OUT OF QB's. Lamar is probably the best example of that....amazing player, love the guy, was dearly hopeing he would beat the Chiefs, regular season multiple MVP, hasn't made it to a AFC Championship game. It is a very hard question to answer which is best. Mahomes has kind of screwed up the distinction by being geat at both...LOL.

[@chopkong]

Both Wilson and Brees are smart, can read defenses, manages a clean locker room, are team oriented, thinks on their feet, are respected by their teammates and most of all, are coachable. Caleb is none of that. Mark my words, he will be locker room poison, and will be the next Ryan Leaf.

[@r.j.w7924]

You're bringing up two of the rare exceptions. The list of shorter QBs who excel in the NFL is...well...short lol.

[@jamezkpal2361]

Data would not be impressed with your illogic.

[@CompletelyRandomVideos]

Drafting CW also brings his dad Levar Ball part 2 and I wouldn’t want to deal with that

[@Redmenace96]

Mahomes dad, and family, are a pain in the ass. They put up with it.

[@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om]

When did Mahomes' dad demand a stake in a team?😂

[@entertained...]

yeah, this hasn't been blown out of proportion at all haha.

[@Thedog9]

It’s crazy how people talk about QB’s and never mention throwing the ball. For Caleb its going to come down to if the team is going to care of him. Also I think because of how bad the cardinals are people forgot how good kyler Murray is, guy has been in MVP conversation before.

[@pbal3030]

Kyler Murray is terrible. He misses like 6 throws a game.

[@MrJSpicoli]

Whoa

[@mythrapi73]

Murray even more overrated than Johnny Football. His ego is too big for his talent

[@isaiahmusa3474]

Murray is much better than Johnny Xanax football

[@samuelhowie4543]

If he is so good, why did the team feel like they needed a clause in his contract over film study. Once you get to the NFL, it's less about talent and more about the mental part of the game.

[@brixshadow9594]

Mental and emotional stability should also be a concern.

[@g-uy9me]

"The Lambeau Weep" He was convulsing on the sideline crying into his mothers arms. Yeah, I would think there is some mental and emotional concerns there.

[@entertained...]

@@g-uy9me except none of his players and coaches seem to think that, but what do they know?

[@g-uy9me]

@@entertained...Of course they're not gonna come out and say he's a bug wuss because they can't. But we all know he was.

[@entertained...]

@@g-uy9me film doesn't show friction with teammates and coaches either; but hey, why not just make up stuff to fit narratives? haha, ah, you haters are so desperate you just make up shit, are proved wrong, and still act like you're right. good stuff.

[@g-uy9me]

@@entertained...I have no narrative, I have no idea about him, all i know is that I saw him convulsing crying in moms arms on stands after his what? 3rd loss of season? This wasn't natl. champ game losing by a field goal at end of game. He may be great in nfl, but I just think something is up with that.

[@MoneyMoneyman23-nq3lq]

Dan on BS cj stroud is the only qb from Ohio state that has really panned out size and height doesn’t matter anymore if u can spin it u will succeed there are successful qbs from all height and sizes nowadays

[@DanielFolsom]

I mean I do think height still matters-I think that's definitely one of the things that has limited Russell Wilson (and if you look at the types of passes Wilson throws FAR less often than his peers ... it's the passes you'd expect that he'd have trouble seeing).

[@fantasypolice]

Guys like him only know to regurgitate what's being said in media circles. And because of this, they won't project Stroud as "by far the best quarterback" before the draft because "he plays in structure." They will, however use these ideas, after they have been proven, to prove a point. It's disingenuous content but actually good practice because it's exactly what the viewers want.

[@fantasypolice]

​​@@DanielFolsomI've worked with Russell, he's about 5'11" in person. I've seen Caleb, he's at minimum 6'1". The height thing is fabricated which is proof people are people for whatever reason digging as much as possible pre-draft. I'm honestly trying to figure out where the vendetta is coming from but honestly I just think young Americans are growing more toxic and appreciate watching downfalls more than they kind to celebrate achievement.

[@KamuiCage]

Before the season even started i was saying they will find a way to tear down Williams and move up Maye (who is good) or McCarthy (who sucks) . All off season these guys tried to push Trubiski, Daniel Jones and Levis on Fans.

[@Ebonysails]

Trubisky is garbage and he is better than Justin Fields.

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

Levis is actually good. Its just not translating to wins. At least Will Levis has potential

[@georgemitchell1705]

@@youtubeistryingtocensorme for a portion of the Bear fandom it seems that no matter how bad the team is, the QB is solely responsible for the win-loss record in their heads. Bears were actively tanking and Fields was keeping them in games last year but fans still blame him for those losses.

[@thunderbear82]

I remember everyone being shocked that Daniel Jones went top ten. Levis looks good but he went second round, so whoever these people your talking about haven't been successful in persuading teams.

[@Icebgriz]

​@@georgemitchell1705he DGAF about that shx fields still playing like a rookie

[@alanshaw6933]

This man said that Mac Jones is an elite Qb so…. I’m still taking Caleb

[@YouDontKnowISH_]

USC szn ticker holder here. The size thing is funny. I’ll be shocked if he measures shorter than 6’0. He’s also built thick af. Size isn’t a concern. This is first time anyone has said this The other critiques are solid, valid. Caleb has a Russ Wilson propensity to hold onto the ball too long for the highlight play vs just going for the smart play

[@DanielFolsom]

I will say, height was mentioned as a potential issue for Jalen Hurts and Baker Mayfield, who are also 6'1" .... Has nothing to do with build, I don't think. Generally, the concern is that "shorter" players will sometimes have trouble seeing over the lineman / getting their passes batted down. But I agree with you that it makes a lot more sense to discuss that as a problem for Kyler Murray and Bryce Young (or even Russell Wilson) since those guys are 5'10"/5'11"

[@KidHorn7001]

@@DanielFolsom Receivers also have issues if they can't see the QB.

[@droctagon529]

@@DanielFolsom The difference with Hurts though was he got taken in the 2nd round. Slightly different calculus versus taking a guy 1/1. I totally get where you're coming from however.

[@vicariousjohnson9823]

This is definitely not the first time his size has been mentioned as an issue.

[@80sports20]

True, but Seattle Russell Wilson won a Superbowl and was a top tier QB in the league for a long time. So even if he had his deficiencies, he could have a solid career. I agree with you though, that I have never thought of size as being an issue with Caleb Williams. It's more the emotional side and whether he can perform under a pro-style offense (somewhat of an unknown) that worries me. He seems to have the propensity, but it is still a little bit of a question mark.

[@jokerswild2k6]

So the Bears might move on from Justin Fields to a lighter, smaller, and less mentally tough version of Justin Fields?? This draft has my mind going 30 different directions.

[@devonwhite2443]

Fields is pure dookey

[@Joeypots]

Brady and many others through history have proven it’s more important what’s going on from the neck up. Many have had massive athleticism, but fall flat because the mental game isn’t there. I hope the kid succeeds but no one is talking about the massive red flags mentally. I wouldn’t draft him above Maye or Daniels. Definitely would keep Fields for multiple reasons. Fields has all the same physical talents and has proven a class act and mentally tough under adversity. And you can also get a massive haul for the #1 pick that can building a winning team for a decade.

[@atruebeastgaming958]

Oh and the Bears have really put a product out there to put Fields at the forefront… give me a break. WR room was a mess with claypool id bet. Weapons mid at best outside of DJ Moore. Need a true scat back. Draft Marvin Harrison and continue fixing weapons. Aim for kmet as a 4th option next year and this offense thrives. Too many picks to spin wheels acting like the team wasn’t blown up week 6 last year (Roquan trade proceed to give up 77 in 6 quarters). I Wanted Bijan a Bear last year.

[@Bigload992G]

Dan Orlovsky is definitely “Steppin outta the end zone” on this one🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@miketemple7686]

At least Orlovsky didn’t jump into his momma’s lap and cry after losing a game like Williams did. Washington kicks his ass, and he’s crying on national television in his momma’s lap😭😂

[@Bigload992G]

@@miketemple7686 He want Mama Titty🤣🤣🤣.

[@KWParrish]

He literally is just outlining what some concerns MAY BE, its his fucking job lol Clowns cant stand to hear anything that could maybe be a negative about "your guy". Grow up

[@Bigload992G]

@@user-we3me3dg1y Exactly 👍🏿🤣🤣🤣. A Never Was!!

[@MobShaad]

@@user-we3me3dg1ybackup QBS usually good with X’s and O’s the talent just don’t match

[@jackoneill1336]

I got a feeling teams are gonna over think this one. The only thing holding Caleb Williams back is his attitude

[@snave59]

What's wrong with his attitude?

[@df224]

Ryan Leaf

[@stevenvox6549]

Didn't he say he wanted ownership in the Bears when he has not played for anybody yet? This guy sounds ego maniacal.

[@jackoneill1336]

@@stevenvox6549 That was a report. Not saying it’s false. But the OG source wasn’t the most credible of sources

[@nicksumrel7437]

he sits in the pocket too long... doesn't take his check downs and is inaccurate in short pass game

[@edwardsjohnpaul]

Do we agree that team "scouts" and sports analysts have got it wrong so often in predicting what determines QB success in the NFL, for YEARS? If so, can we discuss what metrics are being used and how there maybe should be other or different metrics used to evaluate NFL success? How does everyone miss Brock Purdy? How does everyone miss Kurt Warner? How does everyone miss Jake Browning? How does everyone think Bryce Young, Zack Wilson, Carson Wentz, are "the guy"? Is it as much of a crap shoot as it appears? That'd be an analysis to investigate.

[@jerryalexander8803]

A lot of it has to do with teams not being able to develop the QB they invest in and surround him with pieces and set him up to succeed, most good QBs go to awful teams and throw him right in the fire and then they give up on the kid after 2 Seasons, you mentioned Purdy and Warner, what they have in common is that they went to teams that were already set up to win and just needed a QB, it’s been shown that QBs who sit and QBs that go to teams that are already set up to succeed tend to do better than QBs that are thrown right into the fire

[@mythrapi73]

Personally I think it will always be a crap shoot. But one thing I'd look for above all else is Character. Is he a leader? How does his team mates feel about him. Is he immature like Kyler, which seems to me to be the case with Caleb. Also an important aspect is can he control his ego? Plus a big part of it should be his Football IQ.

[@Akronkangaroo]

Jim Mora said it best "You think you know but you don't know,and you never will".

[@heinekenswordfish]

I agree that teams miss on QB more than any other position, but at the same time it's way too early to call Browning a success. He had the benefit of learning on the bench for a few years and now that he is playing he was fortunate to land on a really talented offense. I watched almost every game he played in college. He was awesome his sophomore season when he was surrounded by NFL talent, but the other years he was much more ordinary, because he's got a limited arm and limited mobility. I was not surprised when he went undrafted.

[@Dario_Mazzella1975]

Drafts are like putting money in a slot machine and hoping you win big money. Sometimes the best college players can't transition to the NFL

[@user-mf1wt6cv9k]

Caleb just signed a big sponsorship deal with Kleenex.

[@dmvbay2535]

I heard he's about to sign an even bigger one with Revlon

[@jjiimmeerrttiimmee]

Sam Darnold was a "lock" coming out of SC

[@xandercrews4729]

Only if you believed Cowherd. He wasn’t very good his last season at USC.

[@KamuiCage]

Josh Rosen

[@xandercrews4729]

@@KamuiCage he was an arrogant, uncoachable prik

[@fantasypolice]

No he wasn't. Caleb is in another stratosphere talent wise, and people can't relate to his personality. These two factors are where the dislike is derived from. It's fine though, perceptions will change once fans actually see more of him in the league. People are guessing right now.

[@vinylrichie007]

Sam Darnold has nothing to fo with this.

[@glenbreeding2819]

I’ve watched this young man, he’s a very good talented guy, in fact he’s a very talented player but if he’s not coached in the right way he’s going to struggle

[@emiliothepoet]

Yea and name what qb doesn’t need to be coached up?

[@estevenj247]

@@emiliothepoetevery first rounder and most are busts because they aren’t coached up.

[@Leonydus2.0]

Has nothing to do with coaching if hes a good QB

[@estevenj247]

@@Leonydus2.0 you don’t know the NFL.

[@joeyp1028]

@@emiliothepoet you’re right, every player benefits from a coach. But some players who exhibit attitude issues and personalities that will likely sabotage a team if it doesn’t go perfectly unless they’re babied or managed correctly by an apt staff.

[@jasonpresley690]

Height wise is not a big deal. But his arm talent and IQ on the field is without question. He is also not a running QB. Ya, he would run short yardage plays around the goal line but that’s it. He is thick for his size and leg strength is incredible. The scrambling he does waiting for a defense to breakdown and throwing on the run is what makes him so special.

[@ci6516]

He plays in the pac 12. Let’s see him do this in the nfl before we call him special .

[@ektran4205]

the curse of lincoln riley qbs

[@CharifRocka]

​@@ci6516HE'S SPECIAL!

[@CharifRocka]

​@@ektran4205the curse of starting in the NFL

[@korellsmith6818]

Gets killed behind bears O line

[@miketemple7686]

My concern is his mental toughness. I still remember him jumping up into the stands sobbing 😭 on his momma’s lap after losing to Washington. Hopeless.

[@DeionHarris]

please u better look up a scorpio and u dont go to usc a power college and u dont win no heismen without mental tuffness u got to be from chicago yall clueless down there

[@ReeseTheComedian]

So what he has passion

[@DeionHarris]

amen reese remember this the internet its all kind of people on here slow and all some things dont even need a response and i know we sometimes want to let them know the answer but most of the time u just shake ur head on here @@ReeseTheComedian

[@Rauchaea3100]

Believe it or not along with being a quarterback he’s also a human being that happens to be very close to his mom. You along with a ton of others had seen him lack mental toughness on the field at other times before this and as soon as you saw this your bias made you go straight to ‘this 22 year old is a p’ more or less. There’s plenty of actual examples out there to reiterate but as fans we should all just kinda fuck off on talking like personal moments between mother and son help interpret how good of a quarterback he’ll be. More than a little ridiculous. Props to him for facing the media afterwards too.

[@Akronkangaroo]

At least he ain't spend 100k on an e-thot.😂😂 Now that's mentally weak😂😂

[@asacloutier7530]

I can handle Caleb being 6ft, he's not the absolutely tiny 5'8" that Bryce and Kyler are playing at. The only thing saving Kyler is he can scramble like a chicken until these injuries start piling up. My problem with his tape is he either is hitting guys that are open by 10ft or scrambling and making plays. Neither of those two things will happen often in the NFL. Its the same thing I saw with Bryce and I legit thought Bryce would slide to the 4th round thinking NFL teams would have a moment of clarity and not draft a slow, skinny 4'8" franchise qb... Richardson and Strouds tape was filled with dime throws put into extremely tight coverage, actual NFL throws where the receiver has little separation. Not a lot of that in Caleb's tape....

[@PATRIOTTTT]

Huge Caleb fan but your actual right hmmmm but he does have incredible anticipation

[@B3GINNER]

See though....you're exaggerating to make your point. You shaved off 2 inches to over a foot off Bryce's size. You're also not pointing out the 6'4 250 lb Anthony Richardson getting hurt weeks ago. How many 6'4 or taller QBs in the past have sucked? Many! There's so many past number 1 QBs that struggled as rookies. Aikman, Manning and Elway combined for 60 INTs as rookies. All tall. So should we just ignore that or focus only on Bryce's struggles as a rookie and say it's because of his size? So why did their big asses struggle as rookies?

[@miketemple7686]

@@B3GINNERin regards to the 6’4 244lbs IR Richardson, you forgot to mention that the 6’0 210lbs Gardner Menshew has taken over. The Colts are 7-5 with a shot at the playoffs.

[@issacsimental482]

Richardson’s tape is what would’ve held him back from being a 1st rd QB it was his athleticism, size, and arm strength that made him a 1st rd QB.

[@B3GINNER]

@@miketemple7686 I just love how everyone glosses over the 60 INTs thrown by Aikman Elway and Manning in their rookie seasons and acts like Bryce's size is the reason he's throwing picks. Why in the hell were their tall asses throwing so many picks then? You get what I'm saying bro

[@blockcl]

So much of success is outside the young players control. The offensive scheme, quality of coaching, the talent around him, mood of the franchise. Star or bust, IMO is less than 50% about Williams.

[@MrLarryLessor]

True- Which is why Franchises' have to be responsible for who and when they draft a player - and who they surround him with. It's not all on the player - but the player gets the huge money if he's a top pick. So you better be ready for criticism and scrutiny if you go to a market like Chicago etc. Or NY or any city that really cares about Football. Especially these cold weather cities where people care so much about sports in the winter.... It's not like we can go outside and just forget about the team by playing golf or tennis outside.

[@joshuagarner1654]

You mean the coach that produced 3 Heisman QBs and a runner up, 2 number 1 picks, and another playoff winning qb? That head coach. I'm an ou guy so I hate Riley, but he is a genius when it comes to offense.

[@darionlong8181]

Part of the reason QBs are having to play more in structure more now is bc you have more younger starting QBs then ever.. so your natural gonna see more from a defense with a young QB and Jordan Love being the exception

[@deesee2051]

This the same dude who said Trevor Lawrence would win mvp this year and that Mac Jones would be elite

[@ccarrera951]

Yup.

[@universoullifebalance]

Yea he a clown 🤡

[@Texansfan59]

He got cj right

[@deesee2051]

@@Texansfan59 he didn’t say CJ would be rookie of the year or that great his rookie season

[@Texansfan59]

@@deesee2051 no but he had him above bryce when allot of people didn't i dont think anyone predicted that good of a rookie season

[@musashimiyamoto586]

I think if JF plays steady good it warrants keeping him. Cause hey, the second 1st pick two years in a row is just too good not to convert in multiple picks 2024 and beyond. To throw that away for a smaller QB who has not convinced all the experts would be criminal. You deal with a team who has a top 10 pick and then see how the dice fall. Obviously, you need to get the right players like maybe an OT, edge rusher and such. But I also don't think you need MHJ. Is he generational? Sure. Does that warrant using a valuable pick on him? No. You got a great WR with DJ Moore and you can get one of the better receivers out of college to add to your roster in Washington's Odunze or one of the players from Florida state. Never forget that despite the flaws of JF he played under Nagy in his first year, with a filleted team (offense and defense) the 2nd (and crap coaching) and also was hurt for a few games this year (and the coaching was suspect at times, too). I say you give him another year and if it doesn't happen then get one of the QBs coming out in 2025. Should be a few good ones among them.

[@mjhofe1]

How’d his improvisational skills look against a good defense this year at Notre Dame? 3 interceptions. How’s that going to look against NFL defenses?

[@kornfed73chibears4]

Three in the 1st half and 5 for the year Not that big of a deal

[@jailbreak852]

I'm not a scout, those guys are as accountable as anyone. I don't think I'd compare him to Fields much other than their desire to bail the pocket

[@matthewrose8002]

Caleb Williams isn't what I want for a QB on my Bears. There are so many red flags to draft him at #1 overall. We can pick up so much more if we trade back that first pick for multiple picks or a stud player from another team. The great part is that team we trade back with is giving up a high first round pick the next year so they might even gift us a first overall pick the next year. Think of trading back to the Raiders or Giants and getting Max Crosby or Thibedeux back instead of their #1 pick 2 years from now while retaining their next years #1 pick. Getting a bad teams first round pick and a stud player who is vetted as being really good is much better than picking Caleb who we don't know if he will turn out to be a good player. Most QBs are busts that are picked and I would rather pick up a couple more great players that start on the team than take a lotto chance at a position that has a decent player in it already who is continuing to improve each year. Caleb may be a superstar but the only way it is worth it to pick him up and give up the rest of the players is if he turns out to be a Mahomes, Burrow, Stroud type of player. Those are only 1 player in each of their drafts and the rest of the players drafted at QB with them are just journeyman or busts.

[@GamingNexus21]

Not a slight chance in hel the Raider or Giants give up those two the Giants are fine having Daniels slide down to their pick

[@Dario_Mazzella1975]

Amen to that. I hope we trade and pick up Marvin Harrison jr and a few future draft picks

[@snave59]

The Bears already got 2 picks in the top 10.They don't need any more picks.

[@matthewrose8002]

@@snave59 The bears have needs at about 8 different positions that need upgrades to their current starters. They need picks.

[@claysimonsen7532]

i dont hope for his downfall, but caleb is truly hard to root for. an electric talent for sure... we will see if he can put it all together.

[@kiernanlundgren4925]

Why is he hard to root for?

[@dewknow1315]

​@@kiernanlundgren4925 He entitled thinks a team will give up a % of ownership when he hasn't done anything. Not saying you shouldn't believe your talented but he never been told No and never been humbled.

[@claysimonsen7532]

@@kiernanlundgren4925 hard to root for anyone who paints "fuck utah" on his fingernails - and then proceeds to lose to them twice

[@dustiwnl1480]

@@claysimonsen7532ya he made me root for Utah as a byu fan

[@sjacuk65]

Agreed about him being hard to route for. His demeanor and body language are awful. Thing don't go his way and he pouts and sulks on the sideline.

[@seanvosq]

Orlovsky talking about Caleb is like your 8th grade teacher complaining at Picasso’s style

[@SURGNSaMa]

for me i just think the highlights outweight the simple plays i saw a few games where just regular slants outs things like that off target hes a playmaker no doubt but the highlights will always decrease as the level of play increases.. for most lol

[@thereelaccountant9246]

I feel the exact same way

[@mitchelll3879]

Dan, it doesn't matter if you're ok with him skipping the bowl game

[@mythrapi73]

Oh but it matters to Dan so that's all that matters. The all knowing all seeing Mr. Patrick has spoken lmfao

[@john-carlosynostroza]

I'm not a Williams fan but his size really should be a non-issue. He's not tiny but yes he is not big and the best quarterback this season is basically the same size as Caleb add Caleb definitely has a stronger arm and is quicker and faster overall. Brock definitely has the maturity thing going and she's the field like a chess player

[@tatertots0046]

Not sure what the heck Dan was thinking comparing his stature to Kyler and Bryce. Caleb is way way way bigger than them. Caleb is AT LEAST as big as Tua

[@tomas746]

Lol yeah seriously he’s clearly 6’1 I’ve never watched him play and been like “oh damn is this guy big enough to qb?”

[@P51DFreak25]

@@tomas746He’s built like a tank too

[@lynnerose7891]

It’s not the size, itself. It’s about everything related to his size. It’s a non-issue in college bc he’s in the gun all the time and do he can see the field and run around all day. If you’re short and you can’t see what’s happening bc your vision is blocked, you’re not going to be able to get the ball out on time. And then you’ll get sacked. He’s nothing like Stroud. Nothing even close.

[@tatertots0046]

@@lynnerose7891 he's a much better prospect than Stroud

[@mikebleski9717]

Playing off script is alot like having great athletic ability at the QB position. It's a great asset to have in the arsenal, but it can't be your go to weapon

[@user-ij7xv5xi4n]

Nonsense Getsy still has not created a system for Justin. GETSY NEEDS TO GO !!!

[@crwmdp9]

Orlovsky is spot on!

[@Thedog9]

No he isn’t. Jalen hurts, Arron Rodgers, mahomes, Brock Purdy, and Lamar Jackson, all measured around 6’1-6’2 at the NFL combine. Tua also came in at close to 6’1 and he’s in the MVP discussion.

[@jimcope9417]

All those QB’s you mentioned are all spot on players. Time will tell. Let’s talk about this next season

[@smittyque2567]

​@donaldunderwood4313 And what do all of those guys have in common 🤔. None of them went no.1 we see over and over teams wanting the physical prototypes. It definitely will be a question and time will tell on success or failure.

[@S60W]

He hypes Maye who is a Whole Bum but will criticize Williams who is head and shoulders better than Maye

[@Akronkangaroo]

​@@S60Whe's not a bum but he is raw. Will definitely need some coaching

[@dashawnthomas9333]

I don't give any of these Analyst any credit, they all waffle depending on how they feel about the QB personally or how the network they work at feels toward the Player. Before the season Caleb couldn't miss, Was a generational talent. Nick Wright had him on Mahomes mountain. These guys are clowns. Professional burgers. Caleb will be fine as long as he has WR's that can separate and a decent O-Line. Unfortunately Bryce Young had neither

[@seymourbutts4654]

Who was sold on Purdy ?

[@snave59]

No one.That's why he was the last pick in the draft.

[@matthewgrogg6375]

I’ve been telling my friends that Caleb Williams is a bust for months now, and have no reasoning besides a gut feeling. I almost hope that he proves me wrong, and I’ll be the first to admit it if he does, but I don’t see him panning out in the league

[@Thecyborgman]

Same. Well said

[@MsBuckey]

Caleb, the next Teddy Bridgewater.

[@user-mf1wt6cv9k]

You mean the next Geno Smith.

[@victorle7693]

Bridge water is humble, he just doesn’t have a football body, too skinny. Caleb is opposite of humble, dudes like him tend to be busts.

[@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645]

They'd be LUCKY if he ends up as good as teddy 😂.... he's the next Blake bortles

[@Akronkangaroo]

Too many concussions

[@80sports20]

I don't really see their games as being too similar. And Teddy Bridgewater was the last pick of the 1st round, so his expectations were waaay lower. So Caleb's circumstances will be a lot different, either in a good way or a bad way, depending on how he performs. He will have a lot more pressure. Teddy was mostly a backup who earned his way to being a starter and had a few solid years before transitioning back to a backup role. Caleb will likely either be really good or a bust, just based on expectations alone.

[@thevoxdeus]

The Bears don't have an improvisational offense at all. It's not a running QB system in general. That's not what they drafted Justin Fields to do. It's what they're forced to have him do because he's not dangerous as a pure passer. Bringing in Caleb Williams to replace Justin Fields would be nonsense. If they jettison Fields it's because they want a more conventional pocket passer who only runs when needed. That's what they thought Fields was going to be. If Fields stays then maybe the Bears bring in a coordinator with a more flexible system, or maybe Fields continues to progress as a passer. But they're not going to drop Caleb Williams into the offense that doesn't work that well with Fields and expect Williams to make it work.

[@jailbreak852]

In general I'd agree, but Williams is a more gifted passer. Fields is still a bit slow with everything to my eye

[@BigBrotherMotown]

The question remains..... how was Ryan Day able to be successful with Justin in college because he DIDN'T run a lot, and he was a threat as a pure passer. Maybe Justin is not the problem..... maybe just maybe this coaching staff SUCKS. 🤔

[@Oohesgotadirtymouth]

WELL THE NON SENSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN

[@thevoxdeus]

@BigBrotherMotown It's not a secret how Ryan Day was successful with Fields. Fields could hold the ball for 5 seconds, and his receivers could get wide open. Good NFL defenses don't give QBs easy reads, don't allow them to hold the ball, and a program like Ohio State that's chock-full of NFL prospects doesn't need the QB to anticipate throws the way great NFL offenses do. Fields is a terrific passer against bad NFL defenses, just like he was a terrific passer against college defenses. But against good NFL defenses, where something is always taken away, he is hit or miss at best. That's the jump that Fields was *supposed* to make this year. Maybe it's the jump that he will make next year. Maybe not.

[@BigBrotherMotown]

@thevoxdeus It's funny that people expect him to make a jump his SECOND year in an offense when guys like Josh Allen and Jaylen Hurts didn't make the jump until their THIRD year in the system. There's no such thing as " holding a ball too long"....you hold the ball as long as the offensive line will allow you to. NFL QBs do it all the time. I saw several games this week where the QB held the ball for 4 plus seconds on multiple plays. If the offensive line is not capable of providing that protection, then an adjustment to play calling and strategy needs to be made. Once again, that is a COACHING issue. Justin is not calling multiple screen plays in a row. He's not the one being predictable and nonsensical with the game planning and play calling. Hes not the one settling for field goals when they have opportunitiesfor touchdowns. He's simply trying to make plays with what he was given. At least HALF of Justin Fields' losses can be attributed to COACHING. Let's not forget that the Bears were ACTIVELY tanking for at least half of last season. If the Bears had chosen to draft CJ Stroud last year, he would suck under these same circumstances.......like I said. Coaching matters.

[@anthonygilmore5969]

This is why if im the bears, i go after drake maye. You need a taller qb for those winter months that i lived in. Drake dont show a lot of flash, but with the correct coaching, he just may be able to turn things around quickly.

[@littlesame]

He’s a Maye fan what did Dan think he’s going to say and apparently Maye has no concern #Keephating

[@samuelsheff1007]

Why is it that former QB's rhat was TRASH suddenly become QB experts when they retire???

[@fredwright9755]

Somebody triggered...😅😅😅😅😅

[@Michael_Page]

Not a DO fan, huh. Lol, never heard the phrase, "those who can't do, teach"?

[@Akronkangaroo]

​@@Michael_Pagethat doesn't apply to guys like Steve Young or even Kurt Warner.

[@Michael_Page]

@@Akronkangaroo they can do both. Tbf, DO is almost always complimentary to qbs. It's not like he's calling QBs trash when he wasn't a good NFL qb himself. Lots if great coaches never played in the NFL at any level. No reason DO can't know his stuff.

[@matthewciolak3273]

He’s more qualified than most

[@MoneyMoneyman23-nq3lq]

Dan u were 6’5 and the prototypical qb size and u did play 12 years in the nfl but u weren’t a successful qb in the league as a starter

[@meattooth1303]

i recall 6'2" Heisman Trophy and National Champion FSU QB, Charlie Ward, not getting drafted at all in '93. they said he was too short where the NFL wanted taller QBs. yet he was drafted, had a long and solid NBA career where height has always been a factor. this was a long time ago and perhaps there were other aspects of his game the NFL did not like, but his size was all the talk.

[@dennisshaper4744]

Lol, he was ok point guard, didn't play center or forward where size would have been an issue.

[@DiggDogg10]

The NFL at that time didn't like Ward bucking and saying I'll go play basketball

[@cityhawk]

@@DiggDogg10Didn’t Charlie Ward also say that if he wasn't going to be drafted in the 1st Round, don't bother drafting him at all?

[@DiggDogg10]

@@cityhawk He told them he was keeping his options open

[@anthonygarcia8423]

Caleb is bigger and stronger than all those QBs Dan mentioned

[@michaellalli7693]

Caleb Williams draft stock is falling fast like the cold temps from fall to winter. I could be wrong, but I would not invest in Williams.

[@KamuiCage]

Just like CJ Stroud right...

[@Icebgriz]

Not for the bears the GM and the president are black can't sell them with that sh

[@snave59]

@michaellalli7693.His stock is falling so fast,he's still the number 1 player,on everyones draft board! LOL!

[@michaellalli7693]

@@snave59 2 1/2 more months until the draft? I understand the consensus is Williams all the way. Should be interesting

[@Burdman31Milli]

Dan the most underrated football analyst

[@PATRIOTTTT]

Overrated he’s very bias like he was out here trying to sell Mac Jones to everyone…

[@Akronkangaroo]

It's guys that are better analysts than him on KZbin

[@ONGEES]

@@PATRIOTTTTstill is

[@apollobernet]

CJ Stroud, at one time, was QB5 prior to the draft. This was comical. The combine helped a lot. His arm was off the charts. That’s when you go back to his film and realize he’s not Fields or Haskins. He’s the real deal. He also had this focus about him. Quite frankly, some QBs come off as clowns. No clowns apply. CJ fell into the perfect situation and kudos to him. Bad teams are notorious for destroying young QBs. Texans are not a bad organization. Slowik has that offense purring.

[@Doors067]

Texans were bad for years. Ryans was a very lucky hire

[@joshmontez7982]

My opinion on Caleb Williams is this I do really think he’ll be good in the nfl I know a lot of people knock him and see he’s going to be a bust but I don’t agree one thing I think is people may overrate him just a little in what they’re getting I think his floor is Kyler Murray (plus he reminds me a lot like him his running style playmakinf ability etc.) and his ceiling being top QB pat mahomes. So your either getting a taller Kyler Murray which Kyler by no means is trash he’s a good qb but hasn’t quite lived up his number one overall selection or you get a better Kyler that in time can ascend to that top 5-3 quarterback conversation and actually be comparable to mahomes

[@joshmontez7982]

As far as Drake Maye I really like him as well as a prospect I like both him and Williams I believe Mayes ceiling is Josh Allen/ Justin Hebert while his floor being Daniel jones. If you can coach him and develop him even more he can ascend just like Caleb to the top ten QB nfl conversation

[@mythrapi73]

Kyler Murray 2.0 at best but never equalling Mahomes or even coming close.

[@theone7778]

@@mythrapi73mahomes was never on Caleb’s level in college, if he falls in the draft to a decent situation or a team trades up like the Bucs or Vikings or raiders then I’d say he is good enough to be on mahomes level in the nfl. But falling to a teams other then the bears or patriots is crucial for his development, those teams are far worse then where mahomes ended up in and that was crucial for his development, having some talent around him.

[@joshmontez7982]

@@mythrapi73 you never know, mahomes isn’t untouchable he’s only won two superbowls only one in which he actually played a good game

[@kiernanlundgren4925]

@@theone7778you don’t know the Bears then. They have a great O line outside of the Center, a true WR1, TE1, and another top 10 draft pick along with likely a new coach and 77 million in free agency. They’re a way better situation than the buccaneers lol.

[@KamuiCage]

Remember when Dan said Wentz was better than Dak and Dak should not get Wentz type money Or criticized Tue after the "wonderlic score". Or when he compared Jake Fromm to Mahomes.

[@emersonblake7]

You are not supposed to take sport talkers seriously. They are entertainers just like the players on the field, the cheerleaders, and the mascot. But, they'll all take your money.

[@lucrative6477]

Dak has never played to the highs that Carson wentz had. Wentz was the clear mvp before he got hurt. Daks been struggling to be a top 20 qb before this year.

[@BIGGSHAUN]

Love how these marginal former players are such experts

[@B3GINNER]

Orlovsky is the definition of marginal

[@thesupervisor3270]

He made it to the NFl clown so yeah he is. What u doing with yourself?

[@B3GINNER]

@@thesupervisor3270 trolling 🧌 you. I'm a defense attorney in manhattan for 17 years! You?

[@Akronkangaroo]

Caleb Williams is better than he was, that's a fact😂😂

[@SouthJerzVillains]

@@thesupervisor3270and he was trash? U done dickriding now

[@knkonwd3374]

After watching more of Caleb games like Washington and Oregon. I known people been throwing around Pat Mahomes when it come to comparison but I'd say Russell Wilson. Especially early Russell. Still a successful career and SB winning QB. But I still like Justin, legit size, legit dual threat, have consistently acted in a professional manner through the good and bad. And has shown he can cook if given time in the pocket. Give him a few more capable weapons to throw to and improved OL lets see what Fields can do with it.

[@raidernak7682]

You need to look at Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, and Jalen Hurts to get a feeling of how Caleb Williams will respond in the NFL. They all had Lincoln Riley as their coach at Oklahoma. All of them were 6'1" except for Kyler. Caleb had Lincoln at USC and is also listed at 6'1". They are all starters in the NFL with Hurts being the most successful (currently). I would say that Caleb will be a starter, but I'm not sure he'll be the next great QB. He'll be a serviceable starter, and may have success if he goes to a team with a OL that can protect him and he has a good RB and good WR to complement him along with a defense that can help him by keeping the other team from scoring 20+ every game.

[@trig984]

so...if he has good players at every other spot...he will be successful? great take man...

[@MrMcgooOG]

The next Kyler Murray.........

[@Tyresse555]

And Kyler can ball what’s your point

[@peterrussell798]

Caleb Williams is the next Zach Wilson.

[@mac9108]

😂😂🤣

[@loonytoongt1245]

@@mac9108You laugh but it’s true. Nothing about his traits are good. When he faces pressure his eyes drop down and focus on the dudes coming at him and doesn’t keep his eyes down field

[@mac9108]

@@loonytoongt1245 out of your mind if you're comparing him to Zach Wilson first of all his size he's 6'1 nd doesn't go down easily way better pocket awareness

[@loonytoongt1245]

@@mac9108 Way better pocket awareness? LOL and he’s not 6’1 he’s like 5’10

[@ektran4205]

@@mac9108 the jets ruin young qb careers

[@johnlicciardello2389]

Johnny Manziel was undersized and thrived “off structure” in college too.

[@KidHorn7001]

Turns out Mike Evans was the real star of that team.

[@user-iq6cc3df3l]

It looks like Caleb is 6’ 1”. I think the “perfect” height for a QB is 6’ 4”. Any shorter and seeing over the line is harder, any taller and he’s probably not quite as coordinated. I think a lot of QBs have succeeded at around 6’ 2”.

[@stephenbailey9969]

With QB's getting injuries at the drop of a hat, or becoming too expensive, the value of power running backs is going to increase again. Build the team, as SF does, then get a standard QB to run the team. Build from the line of scrimmage out.

[@JaneDoey]

Brock purdy is not a standard QB. Try watching some of the games.

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@JaneDoey He is a middle of the road QB who works in a system that supports his level of talent. Just as Garoppolo was a middle of the road QB. Put either of them in a system that is not as supportive, and the results would not be the same.

[@JaneDoey]

@@stephenbailey9969 You obviously don’t watch 49er games and see the guy actually play. He is not anywhere close to middle of the road and he’s probably going to win MVP this year. He also took a terrible Iowa state team and got them ranked in the top 10 and into a good bowl game. Once he left for the nfl, Iowa state was the worst college football team in fbs the following year without Purdy. You’re a hater and know nothing about football.

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@JaneDoey You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But for me, being among the elite QB's will only be confirmed if he can lead the team to wins at the Conference Championship and Super Bowl. Right now, he seems only a system QB with an excellent team around him.

[@JaneDoey]

@@stephenbailey9969 You have obviously never watched him play then. How can you make those comments when you’ve never even watch the guy? Purdy has elite pocket presence, he is quick and moves around to elude defenders with ease, he is accurate with the ball and usually makes the correct read. He has the highest passer rating in the league and also leads the league in many other QB ratings, so it isn’t “my opinion” you dunce. I guess you don’t think Dan Marino was a great quarterback then, he never won a Super Bowl. Marino is in the hall of fame by the way. Let me guess, you are a liberal dunce who never even played competitive football, right?

[@TurdFerguson524]

Caleb paints his finger nails. He cried to his mommy after losing to Utah. He’s a mental case. I wouldn’t want him as my QB lol. He’s going to have an emotional breakdown his first NFL game. You can see it already

[@Mike-qe6ph]

Is Johnny Manziel a fair comparison to Caleb Williams? I’m seeing more and more parallels

[@YdUnA19]

I hate to detract from the a quality video and conversation but damn, Dan O looks EXACTLY like Glenn Howerton 💯💯😂😂

[@tacotom3492]

Hilarious... Few months ago Caleb was a "generational talent " ala Luck, Manning etc. Now we get this BS ? 😂😂😂

[@Oohesgotadirtymouth]

HERE COME THR RACIST SHT THEY DONT EPNT THE COLOR OF THE QUARTER BACKS CHANGING 😂

[@MsBuckey]

Because it's true.

[@winstonsyme5899]

@@Oohesgotadirtymouth You must be a member of the 85 IQ group.

[@screwdriverman5-kf2ui]

​@@Oohesgotadirtymouthstupid

[@samuelsheff1007]

Let the ESPN narrative start... Dan sucked as a QB

[@something2consider783]

If I were the Bears, I would stay with Fields. I would use their picks to build the team. I would get linemen, but I would make sure to get Marvin Harrison.

[@savage4242]

Fields sucks ass

[@ByGriPhone]

Bryce Young ruined it for every undersized QB trying to be a higher pick in the draft.

[@normanbowers5669]

Sounds like the Russell Wilson conundrum. He did win a Super Bowl and could have won another. A little older, a little slower, different coaching, not so successful. He tried to turn himself into Drew Brees and that experiment was completely unsuccessful

[@matthewstevens4155]

I wouldn't go near Williams. The QB I would be moving up for in this draft is Penix Jr. Seems like he has everything you want and most importantly, the maturity. I think he is going to be a star in the NFL.

[@DeionHarris]

please williams won a heismen get dat man u wont go near him please

[@matthewstevens4155]

@@DeionHarris In Lincoln Riley's offense. Just like Baker and Kyler... so yea.. probably will end up the same as them in the league.

[@DeionHarris]

u might have a point there i didnt think about that@@matthewstevens4155

[@captbosco]

He is OBVIOUSLY NOT 6'1" He is a clone of Kyler Murray who is 5'10"

[@mitchelll3879]

Kyler Murray wouldn't even stand 5 ft 9 inches

[@bighosre10]

Kyle Murray is more like 5'8".

[@yankeesny28]

I wish some Washington commanders fans would listen to this podcast.

[@lancecampbell4323]

You must have missed the Notre Dame game where Williams was blitzed and had to ad lib on just about every play. He had no clue about what to do and SC was run out of the stadium. Then the team collapsed. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot (or 6’1” maybe) pole. Free footnote: The firings in Chicago tell me they are going to build a Fields-friendly offence. Look for them to trade down and grab someone’s 2025 first round pick (Atlanta it says here).

[@efg1311]

Caleb does hold the ball too long and anticipating WR getting open isn’t his strong suit. But that’s something that can easily be taught at the next level. Regardless of whether he’s 6’0” or 6’1”, this kid has meat on his bones and he’s sturdy AF. I’m really surprised DO is bringing this up as a concern because Caleb is definitely not a small QB

[@ceeebo]

I totally agree size is not a concern at all with Caleb. He's sturdier than Drake Maye is even tho hes a few inches shorter and plays a very physical game through contact. It's more bad analysis from Orlovsky but what should we expect at this point.

[@LeeRRiDLer]

It's not about his sturdiness. It's about seeing over linemen who are all 6'3+

[@mauriciokrebs2913]

"hat can easily be taught at the next level." -- yeah, just look at how easily Pickett learned.

[@matthewrose8002]

Actually, it is hard to teach anticipation. That is why Stroud is doing so well this year because his strong points in college were anticipation and accuracy. Fields is struggling in the passing game since anticipation wasn't his strong point when he came into the league. Caleb is just like drafting Fields again.

[@SawyerOh]

People acting like he’s the next Patrick mahomes are gonna find out real quick. Guys like PM don’t just come around every 5 or even 10 years

[@user-hg4hz1lx2h]

Mahomes the definition for Generational talent!! Analysis throw it around wayy too much

[@lucrative6477]

You 2 must be 12 year old Taylor swift fans.

[@user-hg4hz1lx2h]

@@lucrative6477 You must not watch football or just a hating 49er fan

[@christopherhill7843]

Keep JF1. If it was me, no way in hell I’m drafting Williams. I might consider Maye. But stand by what I’ve said for months now. Keep Justin. Draft MHJ and either Fashanu or Alt.

[@Akronkangaroo]

You think you know but you don't know,and you never will.

[@Bless863]

Let’s listen to sports commentary from a football player that’s greatest claim to fame was running out of the back of the endzone for a safety.

[@Itsjustlikemagic]

This kid has bust written all over him. USC’s terrible defense had nothing to do with him throwing 3 ints and giving away a fumble TD to ND in a blowout loss. Also he played horrible against their other rival ucla and got blown out as well. It’s never a good idea to draft a qb who doesn’t show up for big games especially when you consider the fact that usc was loaded with talented WRs and TE.

[@CharifRocka]

😂 shut up

[@northwestprof60]

DO missed the main reason Williams improvised so much: USC's O-line was bad last year and absolutely horrible this year. He had no choice.

[@kiernanlundgren4925]

He quite literally said exactly this. Did you watch the video?

[@Pccpy]

I see exactly what Dan sees here. I wonder the same about Caleb when I saw him played.

[@garrysinger9704]

USC's offensive line was garbage providing absolutely no time for Caleb to throw. Also, most of their receivers this year (with no Jordan Addison) did not get separation, so he had to improvise until they got open. Their defense was one of the worst in college football, so Caleb had the pressure to score on every possession. Mahomes was the luckiest college QB in history getting drafted by KC, learn for a year and trained by Andy Reid. If Caleb was their QB, he could do what Mahomes does. He is that good.

[@gustavogutierrez5024]

What happen with all that hype when Mario Williams transferred supposedly he was a 5 start what happen with all the hype of bear Alexander coming from big bad Georgia usc fans where lit then uh? You just making excuse now y’all trash 💯

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

USC gave up 49 to Cal, 48 to Nore Dame, 38 to UCLA 52 to Washington, 36 to Oregon but yeah that’s all Caleb Williams fault. Texas Tech was the same way with Mahomes a quarterback no matter how good he can’t make up for a team with no defense and being soft up front. Bear Alexander is 1 defensive lineman it will take years to fix that defense.

[@AL.BUNDY.]

2:27 "CJ Stroud in structure is unbelievable" 💯💯💯

[@KidHorn7001]

His pocket awareness reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. I don't think you can coach that. Some just have the instinct to know where to go when under pressure.

[@Ebonysails]

​@KidHorn7001 That is Justin Fields weakness and it doesn't get fixed.

[@80sports20]

Watching CJ Stroud play against Georgia won me over as a fan. I knew he was going to be a solid NFL QB after watching him in that game.

[@donaldedmonds1495]

Smart coaches and organizations adjust to the talent they have....

[@cc352]

Still think everything depends on where he goes. If you're picked that highly, chances are you're going to a terrible team. But there are different cases. Stroud went to a not too bad Texan team that have good pieces and a good coaching staff but just had a bad year so they drafted high. If Stroud went to the Jets which is a dumpster fire on offense with maybe one good receiver, he would not be having the year he's having. Caleb going to Chicago would be terrible. He would have a better chance if he went to Washington or NE.