12:37 it’s funny you should mention that, because those two guys, Jeonghan and S. Coups, were absent for the most recent concerts, and the team had to do this entire part without them, leaving space for them as if they were there leading the way. It honestly was kind of emotional when they did it, because no one covered their vocals on that part. So it was like their presence was still made known.
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Thats a crazy coincidence!! I truly hope they are recovering ok!
@rikka34909 ай бұрын
This choreo made me tear up when I watched saw for the first time, from the beginning and until the end. Nothing felt off/too much, every move SPEAKS for the song. I think that’s why this is one of the most impactful Seventeen choreos, a cultural reset for sure
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Yes!! Truly a great routine from them!
@hhckiss28179 ай бұрын
They danced to it at 2x speed on the show Weekly Idol, it was crazy!
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
THAT IS CRAZY!
@eghosanugba87579 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Choi young joon (from street man fighter season 1 from team 1 million) helped choreograph this dance as he is seventeens main choreographer and he participates in all of their choreos, and hoshi main dancer helped aswell
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
That is a very safe assumption! Knowing what I know now I would totally guess that as well!
@leteflondondu929 ай бұрын
just a masterpiece of choreo.
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Truly a great routine from them!
@pamelaguerra37689 ай бұрын
OMG YES FINALLY!! this is iconic, they talked about this choreo so much, I think this was also the first time they won an award for their choreography. I think Seventeen grew pretty consistently so they didn't exactly have one song where they blew up but if I had to chose one for that it would be this one. As for Anthony Lee, I tried to google him and seventeen in conjunction and couldn't find anything, maybe they just took inspiration, Hoshi talked a lot about taking part in the choreographing when it came out maybe he took a bigger role than usual and sinse he's more inexperienced he might have been at a stage where he was taking a lot of inspiration from different choreographers, I know for sure his dancing was pretty different back then. He didn't choreograph this on his own though so it's possible that Anthony did take part in it and I just couldn't find it. I really wish Choreographers got paid more like producers did rather than just once for the choreo itself so looking this up would be easier haha, when you wanna know who wrote a song you just go to the KOMCA website or even easier to wikipedia, but for choreo it's a lot harder.
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
This makes sense!! Thank you so much for sharing! This was so fun to watch and analyze!! VERY CLEAN!
@ako83579 ай бұрын
Album credits for A1 are Performance Unit, Choi Youngjun and Yoon Hyelim again.Seventeen have largely stuck with the same choreographers for their entire careers - other people didn't start contributing until Heng:garae (June 2020) and the first and most frequent contributors are from Choi Youngjun's crew Team SAME. If Kinjaz did contribute to DWC, no one talked about it. The only Seventeen credit I can find for them is Keone Madrid for Ready to Love (with Choi Youngjun).
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Nice!! Makes a lot of sense! Now knowing what I know I would 100% assume this as well!
@avinssi_9 ай бұрын
I think Hoshi and Choi Young Joon from Street Man Fighter choregraphed this one. I remember Hoshi talked about this choreo in an interview. As far as I remember, they even show the behind the scenes of this masterpiece. Hoshi had some notes creating their formations and stuff.
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Thank you so much for sharing!
@selinapeace9 ай бұрын
Well, as usual, you pointed out moves that I never even noticed. 🤔 Thanks to your choreographer brain, another interesting review. Thanks Jess.
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you! This style of movement is more in my wheelhouse so I may have been more "wordy" here haha!
@Haruki_Yui9 ай бұрын
my top 3 hardest choreography of seventeen was 1. don't wanna cry 2. Hit 3. Goos to Me
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Those are some great ones!!
@muhdmirzamz_svt9 ай бұрын
funny you should mention Anthony Lee. SEVENTEEN's choreo, I would say, is completely homegrown. Mr Choi Young Jun has been working with them for the longest time. I went into kpop following Chris Martin, when he choreo-ed a little bit of BTS's DNA along with Keone Madrid. I found SEVENTEEN's choreo impressive and found out it was from a Korean choreographer, with Hoshi helping as well. Some of their choreos I like include Fear (I fell in love with Fear because musicality), Falling Flower, Without You and many others. But wow, great analysis. Im still unsure as to what you mean by them having loose range though. I like that you mentioned they have great features. I think SEVENTEEN is one of the few groups who can make small gestures seem bigger than they are and it works in their favour. Even just highlighting a member who's singing by merely walking is not being done enough in kpop, I feel.
@jess_holyfield9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the extra insight and to better explain “range” it has more to do with the duration of the movement vs the movement itself! It’s a way trickier thing to clean but the fact that range is the main cleaning suggestion showcases how freaking great they are at group choreo!!