Timestamps below. If you're enjoying the video, please consider using the $ "Thanks" button on KZbin with a contribution to help me grow this channel so I can provide more concerts for everyone to watch. 00:00 Spooks 5:02 Synergy 9:02 Straight From the Heart 13:10 Lemon Meringue Tie 18:00 Carve 21:05 Andrew Wells thanks Ronnie Radke, says he's one of the coolest guys ever 21:31 Speed Demon 25:38 We Own the Night 29:29 Andrew Wells introduces touring guitarist Martin Bianchini 29:50 Evaporate
@VincentSmith112 ай бұрын
Andrew is an excellent choice for front man. The energy they all have is great and can see them having fun! Matt is literally smiling the entire time. Excited to see the next phase of DGD. Speed Demon and Straight from the Heart are great tracks, cool to see them live. Thanks for posting!
@wanghaf_Gl0yper28 күн бұрын
Nah man we need JC back. I love Andrew but even he said he doesn’t want to be frontman
@stinghouseproductions850213 күн бұрын
@@wanghaf_Gl0yper no thanks. JC easily had the worst lyrics of all the frontman with some of them just being noises. He blew his chance with drugs.
@tearfromtheRed7Ай бұрын
I love how Jon sounds album quality without even showing an effort. So badass.
@e.t.58392 ай бұрын
As much as i miss tilian, I know andrew will fill the role quite well. At first, i was not a fan of andrew as a front man, but this video swayed me a lot. I'm looking forward to seeing him live :)
@trevorrobinson4572Ай бұрын
Andrew has no highs :/
@Evisah28 күн бұрын
@@trevorrobinson4572 tillian just has insane highs in comparison
@shaunster27 сағат бұрын
Pretty excited for the tour in 2025 hope to here more of the old stuff as well
@lukes36673 ай бұрын
Holy fuck Andrew does a sick job! I love that he screams on carve! And his mimicking of other vocalist styles is so on point
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
Still Daddy Dolla saving the day for DGD 💯
@allanm2064Ай бұрын
He was great on we own the night 😂
@Cobalt98522 күн бұрын
Literally superior to the album recording for me now. Holy shit he's so good. I need a Tree City Sessions now. Makes it into a lost DBMII song almost.
@73gCOVERChannelАй бұрын
dgd: we want Jonny back without Jonny being back Andrew: hold up
@MrCaseHartsАй бұрын
he impressed me so much with this set. I think they made the right decision from a performance standpoint at least.
@73gCOVERChannelАй бұрын
@ i admit i was a bit of sceptical towards him leading dgd. he’s a great singer and I love Eidola so much, but in dgd they used to lower the pitch of the songs a whole step in order for him to be able to sing (in 2022). But now I see him perfectly handle Spooks from very first seconds and damn man thats awesome
@allanm2064Ай бұрын
Ehh lame
@wanghaf_Gl0yper28 күн бұрын
Jonny has been sober for a few years and has custody of his son. They should give him a chance, we need DBM3 for real dude…….
@Cobalt98523 күн бұрын
@@73gCOVERChannel He NAILS that Jonny grit. It's fucking perfect. The only other person I've heard hit that is Joey Holiday (Anemoria).
@SlashWest2 ай бұрын
He did remarkably well with those Jonny songs. Almost uncanny how much he sounded like him at times
@razorgash69532 ай бұрын
The first time I heard him featured on dgd song I thought it was Johnny! XD
@zzz-pe3mpАй бұрын
Very good with the J songs. Very bad with the T songs.
@James-es4tz15 күн бұрын
@@zzz-pe3mpwell we know T's voice so high as mountain
@yourkingreturns2 ай бұрын
Jon's recovery on Synergy is why it's my favorite song, I cannot explain
@demetriousgalloway97843 ай бұрын
Andrew has to sing in 4 different ways to cover all DGD. I, personally, love him singing Johnny era and his own voice, like in Evaporate.
@k1xnt2 ай бұрын
Jon too, changing his pitch and delivery depending on which era the songs from. Not easy to maintain that dbm2 shrill
@daniellake413321 сағат бұрын
Didn’t he do the vocals for evaporate on the album as a feature? He sounds great
@k1xnt20 сағат бұрын
@@daniellake4133 he has features in a handful of songs. He's all over jackpot juicer.
@daniellake413320 сағат бұрын
@ kinda fell off before that one came out. I like the old stuff better besides a few here and there
@k1xnt19 сағат бұрын
@@daniellake4133 honestly, I wasn't a fan of JJ. felt like kidzbop PHC. The last single they put out with tilian Ghost of Royal Billington was great though and had a Andrew feature. Would recommend. He was on Nothing Shameful too which is my favorite feature. Apparently they're doing another Tree City Sessions album with Andrew singing all the old songs in studio. That should be a better indicator of what he's capable of with dgd
@redheadredemption22 ай бұрын
Andrew sounds so good on Johnny songs, still needs to find his way on Tilian songs. All in all I'm excited for the future!
@MiguelVillanueva-ly4vc2 ай бұрын
Damn, Andrew can really deliver Jonny songs
@allanm2064Ай бұрын
We own the night was my favorite! He kinda sounded like Mary poppins. Sober.. real tight bruh 😂
@TheMrodgers232 ай бұрын
THEY DID CARVE?! Haven't heard that one in so long. Heavily underappreciated song 🤟
@AFewAnts2 ай бұрын
Andrew singing we own the night was rough but the rest of the set was great, he does well singing Johnny’s era
@HughJaynus69692 ай бұрын
Ya it was super rough, tilian sings up high. I can sing up high like tilian but even then it’s not an easy song to cover. It took me like multiple years to get to a point where I felt like I could cover the song pretty good. But still tilian has this high pitch that sounds amazing. Like the towards the end, when tilian sings up high, where did I go wrong, that part he ruined singing it so low. Like I get it he has shoes to fill, but it’s just not the same without tilian.
@dansugi836328 күн бұрын
Yeah Tilian has a very unique voice. Can definitely tell Andrew was struggling with that. But man did he kills spooks and lemon meringue tie
@melissakoch33063 ай бұрын
Great goddamn set! Best performance of this tour that I saw. Great audio and camera work, too! Thank you for sharing.
@MyConcertCollection3 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Glad you liked it.
@Landslide3 ай бұрын
Awesome camera work btw! Catching cool shit from Will and stuff. Appreciation!
@MyConcertCollection3 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying that! I appreciate it. Glad you liked it
@ericjaynes71503 ай бұрын
Jon sounds so good live, hoping to see them again on this next tour.
@tricksterdaclair3 ай бұрын
Best band ever !!!! Like a freaking phoenix, gets reborn from its ash all the time !!! I love how Sergio is blasting it on scene now hes got god moves XD !!!! What a band, wish i could see them once live CANADIAN TOUR PLZ XD
@messychaiАй бұрын
andrew is a wonderful fit for the wide range of jonny, kurt, and tilian. he continued to improve throughout the performance imo. that’s a good performer- and jon is just fantastic as always. it was nice seeing the moments andrew was really killing it and everyone was just vibing together. great set. love the direction the band is going
@jelorer2 ай бұрын
andrew definitely leveled up
@trogdor25929 күн бұрын
it's the mullet. it gives him power
@jeffreyjent193 ай бұрын
They just need a new album with all Andrew tracks to tour on. Straight from the Heart and Speed Demon are so much better than the rest (in this performance). No one can really cover Tilian, hell Tilian can barely cover Tilian. (this version of Carve was pretty badass though)
@freakstroke3 ай бұрын
Great versions of the songs with Andrew. I am loving this version of the band. Speed demon and straight from the heart are awesome, and that version of carve was fun. Andrew doing some screams and Jon doing some pitched screaming is the most dynamic you guys have been. Loved that we got some swan raps too
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
Still Daddy Dolla saving the day for DGD 💯
@HarperReagan-g6r2 ай бұрын
Dude Andrew with the Johnny songs is uncanny. I’m in love
@gamingstimulant3 ай бұрын
I love this band so much.
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
I'll take this band to the grave literally
@Mrjrod923 ай бұрын
❤❤❤👑🤘🏼🎶 finally getting more back to a more downtown battle mountain sound!
@HiMephernelia3 ай бұрын
27:24 10/10 burp
@jellosapiens7261Ай бұрын
GOD ANDREW IS SO GOOD! So looking forward to the new era of DGD
@UglyTheDuckling14 күн бұрын
This lineup is sick as hell. The vocals on Carve were A+.
@ssjabroni2 ай бұрын
The ending of Evaporate where they layer the vocals is very well done on Andrew's part. I was super worried with how high pitch and intense it is, but Andrew made it his own and honestly killed it.
@Jonlp6Ай бұрын
Damn I’ll miss Tilian… he fitted so well with the band 😓
@Contopaxi2 ай бұрын
Love Andrew on vocals but miss him jamming on guitar also!
@lavender346319 күн бұрын
killin it drew
@Cobalt98523 күн бұрын
PRAYING for an Andrew Wells TCS 🙏
@timothydrake60402 ай бұрын
Jon Mess is immaculately gnarly live. 'Nuff said.
@timothydrake60402 ай бұрын
That being said, what the fuck did he say at the end of Lemon Meringue Tie? 😂 those are not the lyrics lmao
@josephreusch3 ай бұрын
We own the night was rough but I have heard Andrew earlier on this tour nail it a few times before so I think his voice is just a bit rundown at the tail end of the tour here. He sounds amazing doing all of the other songs and after Eviscerate came out this year from his band Eidola I have become a huge Andrew Wells fan and I think he will do great with the new material written for him and the man crushed the Jonny Craig era stuff and would do the Kurt Travis stuff well too I have no doubt.
@stinghouseproductions85023 ай бұрын
True, I think he sounds perfect for it when he nails it. To be fair Jon can get rough sometimes too. Just the nature of live performances especially as they age.
@josephreusch3 ай бұрын
@@stinghouseproductions8502 yea Jon is quite off and on but we still love him all the same!
@PlagueJ3 ай бұрын
Tillian himself never sounded quite amazing live. He was always slightly flat. So I think it's fair Andrew isn't doing amazing either with his songs lol
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
Still Daddy Dolla saving the day for DGD 💯
@_tokii__3 ай бұрын
Andrew can definitely nail Tilian songs, just not consistently night after night and thats completely understandable.
@catfishy0829 күн бұрын
Andrew can scream, nails Jonny's vocals, and does very well on Til / Kurt's songs. Is a good looking dude, has stage presence and doesn't have any scandals to his name. People still say they want Tilian back lmao. What a great performance from the band.
@wanghaf_Gl0yper28 күн бұрын
We need Jonny back dude
@ducc584417 күн бұрын
bro him screaming evaporate lyrics threw me off so much LMAO, ngl tho as a metalcore fan i fw the screams, not sure if others would agree 😅
@quainejohnson48083 ай бұрын
The screaming instead of going high register for tilians bit on evaporate is incredible. I dont give a fuck
@zaxzumu46053 ай бұрын
Jonny=Rigby Andrew=Don
@NeonKat3 ай бұрын
This is my favorite band
@Kinzerkin22 күн бұрын
Andrew is literally like the clean vocalist final boss of dgd lol he can sing any song from any era of dgd no problem
@ducc584417 күн бұрын
DUDE I KNOW RIGHT, HE'S LITERALLY CARRYING SO HARD
@biggestsquidd59483 ай бұрын
I was sceptical on Andrew at first stepping into the lead cleans role but holy shit is he a perfect fit. Really excited for this new DGD era.
@TheGoldenConnorific2 ай бұрын
Damn Andrew has amazing Vocals
@RobbisTV8 күн бұрын
Bring back Tilian
@xTreyray2 ай бұрын
Bro holy fuck they killed that! Andrew did a great job. Full support of him taking the singing role. And his screams are fucking DOPE!
@jams_2369-v4u3 күн бұрын
La banda más hermosa de todas♥️♥️♥️
@rush211289Ай бұрын
I love the new shit so much. Straight from the heart straight slaps
@MyConcertCollectionАй бұрын
Love that song, and Speed Demon, too,
@wyattkline52383 ай бұрын
I find some symbolism in them ending with “We Own the Night”, one of the most iconic Tillian songs, followed by “Evaportate” which was Andrew’s first big song with them.
@mattwalsh9636Ай бұрын
I do miss the highs that tilian brought to the songs but Andrew is a great vocalist too.
@ducc584417 күн бұрын
I agree, andrew is kinda clutching most of the songs and I hope he can better his range for future shows
@adrianb22323 ай бұрын
i really do wish the new album is a lot heavier. carve sounds so good with Andrew
@Tht1guy633 ай бұрын
Per an interview a few months ago it should be heavier. Instruments are already done and recorded.
@_tokii__3 ай бұрын
Sergio posted a while ago on his IG story that they are using a 7 string guitar and 5 string bass
@davidgreen24667 күн бұрын
I've seen Eidola once or twice and DGD quite a few times. I have NEVER heard Andrew scream before. Him and Jon going back and forth on Carve was fucking sick
@grimdarkly3 ай бұрын
Andrew sounds great singing these songs that weren’t created for his register. Tbf, tilian didn’t kill these live either. My wife and I have gone to DGD live 3 times recently and every time thought tilian was MID live so in my humble opinion Andrew is doing at LEAST as good as tilian
@stinghouseproductions85023 ай бұрын
Synergy sounds great.
@gmdragon1173 ай бұрын
Idk peak tilian was fkn magical. Saw them at the LA shrine and palladium and maybe it was the venues but everything sounded clear and on point!
@Scrattah2 ай бұрын
he's either on or he isn't, I lucked out because I've only seen them once but he killed it, but I've seen many of his live performances that hurt. Glad Jon can always kill it, at least.
@grimdarkly2 ай бұрын
@@Scrattahyou’re right! Jon never misses. His accuracy is insane
@justinstewart59633 ай бұрын
Give the guy a break. He’s doing a better job than most of their other singers did live. It’s just that Tillian’s register is unusually high and would be challenging for most singers, so props to him for even trying.
@jamesreifert14223 ай бұрын
andrew really channels those og jonny vibes and its chilling at times i dont think current era jonny is even capable of that
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
F A C T S
@BlakeSnow20183 ай бұрын
So fucking amazing, Andrews is doing a good job❤️
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
Still Daddy Dolla saving the day for DGD 💯
@BlasterDon3 ай бұрын
Andrew is better fitted to the Jonny and Kurt songs. Although i think he could do most songs on Acceptance Speech. He seems to struggle on most of the tillian stuff which is fair. But what's most important to me is that they're having fun.
@rodriguezgreg3 ай бұрын
Agreedth and still, Daddy Dolla saving the day for DGD 💯
@gmdragon1173 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@sebastianlejon13132 ай бұрын
I mean he might be struggling, but he sounds fine, good even. Still sounds better than so many other vocalists within this scene, doing vocals made by somebody who sings way more higher-pitched.
@ericjaynes71503 ай бұрын
8:40 shoutout to the guy with the pink spiked hair, ran into him at the first WWWY show in 2022 😂 still killing it
@ilham19083 ай бұрын
Andrew vocals similar to Jonny Craig
@ilham19083 ай бұрын
He kills all jonny & kurt songs but struggling in tillian era
@_tokii__3 ай бұрын
@@ilham1908The thing about Andrew is that he can nail Tilian songs really well, but consistently every night is too demanding on his voice. But I personally think he's the perfect fit to cover all eras of DGD. Also Andrew being able to back up Jon on screams is huge.
@future_elevator_music3 ай бұрын
@@_tokii__ they brought the HEAT on Evaporate for that very reason.
@illusionistbeamish42043 ай бұрын
@ilham1908 dude he's a cheap knock off of Jonny craig
@nickhex813 ай бұрын
Not at all, actually. 😅
@DGNINEFOUR16 күн бұрын
We need a tree city sessions pt 3 and a DBM pt 3 😂
@hotrice45392 ай бұрын
27:24 the guy trying to get andrew to giggle by burping before the drop LOOOL
@RichSoundsATL10 күн бұрын
Evaporate was 120% Andrew has it all, he can cover every prior vocalist + heavy
@Jose-q2s9d2 күн бұрын
He can't cover Tillian it's not even close
@niko91292 ай бұрын
Jon sounds literally like on the records
@nicholaslaport33542 ай бұрын
Wow! He sounds phenomenal for the Johnny songs. The Tilian songs are so-so, maybe they should tune down for those songs?
@kalub-sg7rs2 ай бұрын
I saw them in Scranton
@Jose-q2s9d2 күн бұрын
Andrew looking like Alf with that hairstyle 😂😂😂.
@danielpiedade287127 күн бұрын
14:40 jonny is back? 😮 Andrew ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@jliebersteinoboe28 күн бұрын
Dang Andrew get it big boy
@ACM86Ай бұрын
Jon Mess covers Jon Mess parts really well.
@MyConcertCollectionАй бұрын
Very well
@SkateDontHate911Ай бұрын
This is the best they've ever sounded I don't care what any new fan in the last 10 years has to say
@whimsybug3 ай бұрын
I feel like this is one of the best performances of Evaporate on the tour? Also Matt and Sergio's lil fist bump moment ♥
@angel.d.06663 ай бұрын
Such a duet this guys are. They're amazing!
@GoombaMuffinsАй бұрын
Andrew absolutely fucking nails JC's songs
@xLetsHearItx2 ай бұрын
Andrew sounds great on the Johnny Craig songs for sure. Would love to hear an updated DBM2 release with him on it
@troisharp970327 күн бұрын
Honestly I'm cool with WOTN being sung an ovtave down for the verses i think it's kinda smooth. Great set
@josepsaavedravillasis9761Ай бұрын
Jonny? 😮 ... Andrew 🖤
@justincary61803 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for not choosing Kurt again, and going with Andrew. I don’t think anyone but tilian sounds good for his songs, but I’m very excited for new Andrew songs with the music fitting his voice. The band sounds as great as ever. So glad they don’t let these constant member changes stop them from making great music. Been a fan since 2005, I actually preordered their first EP WISIRO by accident almost 20 years ago, and they’ve been my favorite band ever since
@Tht1guy633 ай бұрын
Whats the issue with Kurt? I know im minority as kurt was my favorite era but there is some bias as thaats when i really got hooked all though ive listened from the start.
@justincary61803 ай бұрын
@@Tht1guy63 I dunno what bias u mean, I’ve seen and met a crap load of people who love Kurt and I never understood it. His original stint with the band, he sounded terrible, especially live. Couldn’t hold any notes, constantly lost his voice. He almost was the reason they split up for good. They moved on from him cuz he couldn’t sing live. I think he smoked too. Plus I met him when my band opened up for DGD a long time ago, and he was a total dick to me for no reason, other than I wasn’t some groupie chick so he was too good to speak to me. But that’s besides the point. He’s a much better singer now definitely, but he still just sounds way too whiney and compared to Jonny (the best singer), tilian, and now Andrew, the talent level isn’t even close. I heard rumors they were thinking of having him front the band again since they recently did that tour with him and Andrew singing while tilian took his hiatus, and I’m so glad they went with just Andrew instead
@nonixus6613 ай бұрын
@@justincary6180 to care this much is crazy
@jan56163 ай бұрын
@@justincary6180 I strongly disagree. Kurt's awesome and very charismatic. Every time he and Jon perform rock solid, it's always a fun time!
@justincary61803 ай бұрын
@@jan5616 that’s cool. I think everybody likes the first singer they heard with the band the best. Did u get into them first during the Kurt era?
@troisharp970327 күн бұрын
Carve 😮🤤
@jellosapiens7261Ай бұрын
Am I the only one that liked Andrew's version of We Own the Night?
@dukedude2202 ай бұрын
Synergy sounded real good
@lucasbento73572 ай бұрын
am i the only one missing Tilian
@daveh18222 ай бұрын
Save Jon Mess at all costs
@janaxelblomberg776811 күн бұрын
Am i going nuts or are they using a backing track for tilians songs?
@gmdragon1173 ай бұрын
DGD just needs to stop doing tillians songs. Give andrew a break and let him develop his songs with the band. Im sad they are crucifying him live for everyone to see.
@nickoliedanielsonАй бұрын
32:00 holy shit
@Straitjacket346Ай бұрын
Very Karaoke-ish on the Tilian songs, unfortunately, but crushed the others
@corywebb428826 күн бұрын
No one will ever be close to Tilian. It upsets more than anything to see where DGD is now. Jon deserves better than this.
@ducc584417 күн бұрын
i know how you feel man, i still can't get over the fact that tilian left the band, but you have to admit that andrew is holding up very well with a lot of tilian's songs as well as the previous two singers' songs, IMO i think andrew is clutching it
@Ryio5Ай бұрын
Fuck. I was short on money and wasn't sure if I wanted to make an 3+ hour round trip drive to see either of the North Carolina shows just for an opening set but I really wish I did... It's probably gonna be a long time until they play Spooks again :(
@timothybrownjr8068 күн бұрын
Never heard of Andrew but I miss Tillman and then I miss Johnny too voices were super electric
@antonymercier96822 ай бұрын
support for Falling In Reverse tour....?
@zzz-pe3mpАй бұрын
parting ways with tillian after the allegations and then touring support for ronnie radke after his many more allegations is iconic
@fograwtohb2 ай бұрын
I like Andrew and I can’t even lie he killed those Jonny songs but he can’t fill those Tillian shoes 😕
@ApexATL3 ай бұрын
Andrew is doing a great job filling in, but these songs aren’t written for his vocal register and it shows unfortunately. I’ve seen them live three times now and Eidola twice. I’m a huge fan of his and he’s exceptional when performing songs that more naturally fall within his vocal range, but these aren’t it.
@DAKOTAasmr3 ай бұрын
Facts
@Dridgeism3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a bastard being a baritone trying to sing countertenor notes 😆, its impressive what he does manage to make happen. Synergy worked pretty well...but for a headliner tour I'd be more than happy to see them cut most Tillian material in favor of older stuff(and the prospective new album.) I was still more than happy at the Denver show...and just to see them enjoying their time on stage again; they seemed absolutely dead on the jackpot tour.
@roderiku6423 ай бұрын
@@DridgeismTo me it sounds like he is a bass actually, I am a bass and he has a lower speaking voice than me.
@roderiku6423 ай бұрын
I don't feel like that's the case, go see the most recent Tilian shows and now not even him performs as good as Andrew. He ends up singing with the same registers Andrew does and he is a tenor. In papers Andrew performs far better right now. If Tilian stopped smoking or something he would do as good but his voice has gotten shaky over the years.
@adrianb22323 ай бұрын
@@roderiku642i noticed that during arse. i was like he sounds like he smokes lol
@XtremeViolenceInc2 ай бұрын
Not sure how I feel about them using tillians back tracks when he’s not in the band
@freakypan-p4i2 ай бұрын
they already confirmed that was not Tilian's, it's Andrew's which they recorded months prior to this tour, they prepared that incase they didn't have anyone who can do backing vocals which is currently the case
@METALMUVA3 ай бұрын
what a fuckkkkinnnnggg set omg
@Mad_Bullymong2 ай бұрын
Im in love with the Andrew-John era,!
@victorprescott9404Ай бұрын
Massive Belcher at 27:23 🤠
@NeonJesusOW2 ай бұрын
Not bad at all but I can’t help but think Andrew might have an easier time if he eased up on the working out a bit. I remember seeing Eidola back when they were playing to crowds of like 60 people and he was a (much) smaller guy and I feel like his upper register was FAR more readily available and smooth. That said, I know he’s had vocal reconstructive surgery and I still love him as a vocalist.
@JazzminnnnnАй бұрын
Am I crazy or are they playing a tillian back track on some songs???????
@freakypan-p4iАй бұрын
It's not, they already confirmed it.
@ducc584417 күн бұрын
i want to drop my opinion here real quick, I really dont mind that andrew is using lower ranges for songs that obviously have higher ranges from tilian (and i know some ppl are gonna disagree and i completely understand, we can only hope that he can improve his higher ranges) but what bothers me just a bit is that he switches up between low and high ranges a lot in the middle of the songs which makes it sound inconsistent, i hope he can improve but otherwise i think he's doing alright with kurt's and JC's songs
@ogijuwana2 ай бұрын
Should just play mostly JC's songs or maybe Kurt's tbh. Fits Andrew well (pun may or may not be intended 😊) On second thought, Andrew should just scream during tillians part.
@allanm2064Ай бұрын
Andrew is juiced the F up 😳 long term fans can see bruh.. back in 2017 he was a little skinny guitar nerd featuring with dgd… idk how I feel about that
@Jose-q2s9d2 күн бұрын
It's really weird and I think he needs a haircut because that mullet is awful lol.