Dance Gavin Dance situation is WILD!

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[@dancegregorydance6933]

The reason DGD survived so many vocalists is because the core of the band has always been Will, Jon and Matt.

[@victorkreig6089]

*Will and Matt Jon left during Happiness

[@ispoox]

This is why I think they should do another secret band lp.

[@SRankerDMC]

Jon is still a core staple of the band being in around 90% of​ their discography. we got bands like Royal Coda and old A Lot Like Birds to get that original happiness era sound. @@victorkreig6089

[@waycnf7229]

@@victorkreig6089 Yeah but it was the exception, not the status quo.

[@phantomshadowfax5431]

does Lyme disease count as "leaving" though??@@victorkreig6089

[@santiagorojas1340]

Next Album is going to be All Our Vocalists Have Abandoned Us

[@mtbz9079]

God tier Architects reference

[@Kitsss500BC]

@Sam Carter

[@kiethveseyofficial]

Shazam, The Vocalists Have Abandoned Us!

[@mileslima8114]

We about to get Tides Of Man back

[@bbwait2718]

AOVHAU 😂

[@TankTheTech]

Jonny Craig shooting his shot on Instagram as this is unfolding has gotta be the most ironic thing ever.

[@johnsmith3085]

Maybe this one will take because he’s sober now. (Wait, he is still sober, right?)

[@Rizings_Shadow]

@@johnsmith3085 supposedly lol, his instagram says he is

[@Rizings_Shadow]

Downtown Battle Mountain 3 would be so good tho

[@IjeomaThePlantMama]

Did he really? Criiinnggeeee🙈

[@coperator556]

​@johnsmith3085 from what I've seen, I believe he is still very sober and doing much better in life.

[@Marbleshade]

"You know when you go to a subreddit and it has 62,000 members" and half of them are ex-DGD vocalists.

[@tylerswanson6358]

Can they just hire Gavin already?

[@taylorlawler3525]

Gavin doesn’t sing, he only dances.

[@matthewgreagrey]

You can actually meet him if you go to one of their shows.

[@gaythiestMTG]

@@taylorlawler3525 Rings of Saturn 2024 era 2.0 lmao rip :'(

[@derekspears2598]

How is this not the top comment?

[@darkdudironaji]

Gavin Degraw could actually work with them.

[@SEVEN_DUCK]

Shoutout to the other vocalist jon MESS who unironically isnt a troublesome or a canceled vocalist

[@Tonjit41]

as it turns out, you can't get cancelled if no one knows what the hell you're saying lmao

[@eatadick4127]

Time for Kurt to come back. He also has the added benefit of not substance assaulting their fans

[@serpent8061]

@@Tonjit41 Homie does indeed spread the lemon cheese equally

[@Thearcherfl]

He been tapping cans of broccoli and pico

[@Foobymaster1]

Also will on vocals

[@bradabdul]

Jonny is like DGD's abusive ex that they just call for a musical booty call when their most recent relationships fail.

[@chuckjamesnorris5928]

😂😂

[@philoaxiomatic4514]

Hahahahaha!!!

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Hire the ginger MacBook guy. His voice is golden

[@kingchuckfinley]

I hope they don’t bring him back this time

[@Cobalt985]

@@dancegregorydance6933 His voice is AMAZING no denying that. But EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they bring him back he's relapsed. Even on the goddamn 10 years tour!!

[@xent8]

wake up babe, there's a new dance gavin dance drama

[@theric8940]

Vocalist*

[@altuervo]

​@@theric8940same difference

[@jackinthebox1817]

Aaannd... No One Cares.

[@fnarget519]

I thought I scrolled across my own comment. Man I’m baked 💀

[@jackinthebox1817]

@@fnarget519 I have to admit it that it has happen before

[@funnyperson4027]

kurt travis was honestly so underrated

[@Talking_Bout_Driguez]

For sure

[@rad_lad_2715]

I would love for him to come back, but i also want more gold necklace songs

[@SolMrBadGuy]

Kurt Travis, makes any track groovy

[@BukkuCSouls]

@@rad_lad_2715same bro, 1 album and Single isn’t enough

[@rad_lad_2715]

@@BukkuCSouls they have a Christmas song too

[@Joe.Shmo.Eskimo]

You guys remember when Kellin Quinn auditioned for DGD after Jonny Craig was kicked out the first time? You can find his audition track here on KZbin.

[@synysterhemi3458]

Yea hes garbage glad he didn't make it

[@aighbeh5907]

whaaaaat

[@TRAVIESO_NA]

Yes. I always hated Kellin Quinn he did a colab with my friends band back in the day Chris Shelley from At The Skylines, when they played a show together we all partied that night and Kellin was such a douche bag”💼

[@666_N_94]

I don’t really like Tillian but I will take him a million times over Kellin haha. So glad that didn’t work out

[@hardcoreholly1161]

@@666_N_94kellin >> Tilian

[@samuelnichols4709]

Just to clarify with Kurt Travis, he did not get kicked out or cancelled. Johnny had gone to rehab or something and wanted to rejoin, so Kurt agreed to leave and pursue other projects so Johnny could rejoin the group. Kurt is one of the only members who seems to be a good dude, just wanted to make sure this was clear Edit: I’ve been informed that I was wrong, oh well. But regardless my point stands Kurt has no allegations or cancellations or any shit like that. Seems like a great dude

[@renderthevoiid9104]

Tillien is a good dude. Yall are just somee winy ass liberals who judge ppyl over dumb shit

[@gunblade197]

I recall Kurt's ejection having more to do with his refusal to quit smoking when the band felt he wasn't hitting high notes well enough. That said, i can't for the life of me remember where i read this so take that grain of salt with this info

[@bathumb45]

Kurt is a good due but he didn't leave on his own accord lol his voice was HORRID during his last tour with them because he didn't want to quit smoking. He was screaming his singing parts and just couldn't hit the high notes. After the tour he was told that the band was gonna do one more tour with Jonny and just do DTBM songs and then call it quits. Obviously that didn't happen, but Kurt has talked a few times about this. He's stared that he knew his position in DGD was never permanent and wasn't surprised when he got booted.

[@ggr9745]

The reason was this. Kurt's smoking was making him perform badly and the band had a lot of internal tension. They got burnt out and were ready to call it quits. They decided before they quit, they wanted to get the original lineup back for a final album. Kurt was basically blindsided and got hurt pretty bad by it. Zach was left due to not being able to get along with Will among other things. Everyone came back and they toured the album and they fell back in love with playing music. Jonny then causes some shit, gets kicked, Eric leaves, and the Tim and Tilian join. They keep grinding until they become the band they are today.

[@apaleguy]

He wouldn't quit smoking and he even brought it up at one of his shows recently when someone asked. Hence why he doesn't smoke no more. Kurt is a genuine dude he'll stop and give you the time of day, even honked at us and waved goodbye when we were leaving a venue once and rolled down his window and thanked us for driving all the way to see them play.

[@luisito_a-1463]

Dgd 30 yr anniversary tour gon have like 376 vocalists

[@mentaltelepathy24]

with macbooks, drugs, and booze.

[@beardalaxy]

it's gonna turn into a bang camaro show

[@MikeDantzGaming]

😂😂😂

[@rodriguezgreg]

LOL

[@bastakaytv2825]

Somehow, I don't doubt.

[@xent8]

it doesn't matter who will be the next dgd vocalist as long will swan is around, dgd will live on

[@Hugelybased]

Will, Matt, and Jon. The OGs of DGD.

[@hunterking6033]

And Mingus. He's a terror back on the sticks.

[@bm7291]

@@hunterking6033I swear Matt is one of the best drummers out there. I’ll die on this hill

[@xent8]

@Hugelybased Jon and Matt left but came back

[@LampyGames]

​@xent8 matt hasnt ever left the band officially, just taken a break due to alcohol issues

[@ImOverEveryone]

Lead singer shuffle... this is Dance Gavin Dance's favorite ...well Dance

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

Johnny Craig back in probably

[@socio2980]

You addressed dgds existence, what say we get a Swancore in 30 secs?

[@technickn9n3]

plz =)

[@bendooley550]

Here for it.

[@usukapal]

Yes swancore

[@golfinothebest]

THIS

[@jayceearrboy]

Full version!

[@bloe020299]

"or just get Tyler Carter" HAHAHAHA IM DYINGGGG

[@vecta234]

Imagine if they actually did 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dancegregorydance6933]

NO, PLEASE NO

[@johnsmith3085]

Bargain Bin Jonny Craig.

[@BackwardsCourage]

Surely he doesn't groom his fans anymore.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

@@johnsmith3085 😂True.

[@zaxzumu4605]

"We kicked out the self-identified alcoholic for a dude who tried to forcibly inject his gf with heroin" tour. VIP packages include a 2010 model year macbook complete with cigarette burns and a sticky keyboard from any excess heroin that spilled out of the spoon when it heated up.

[@josuastangl7140]

This sounds so ridiculously funny, but is actually accurate and a probable outcome

[@HerbaceousM8]

the name is long enough to be real DGD

[@pbgoof]

At least Jonny Craig is sober now

[@InkAndPoet]

​@@pbgoofbut how long will that last? THAT'S the question.

[@pbgoof]

@@InkAndPoet It’s the longest he’s ever lasted sober! He has a son he’s trying to get to see more so he’s been clean for 2 years now. The difference is he also stopped drinking alcohol. Every time he tried to get “sober” it was just from heroine but alcohol was equally the problem for him.

[@hugograndi1708]

Bro. It's the return of the Mac

[@mentaltelepathy24]

If they don't bring back Johnny and name the album that I be pissed.

[@xenophagia]

🤣

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Downtown Battle Mountain: Return of the Macs

[@Hellavit]

Oceans Ate Alaska is the Dance Gavin Dance of metalcore, just not as dramatic and without the cancellations.

[@mentaltelepathy24]

We can throw Saviour into the mix too

[@noroyalbloodline3983]

@@mentaltelepathy24I love saviour hope they are still together

[@matttheman3923]

Also of course Woe Is Me

[@biscuit715]

Do you not know the tension with vocalist? OAA had so much beef...

[@Hellavit]

@@biscuit715 Yeah, but still not as intense as the DGD stuff lol

[@RazorBladezX]

The time line is like Jonny in (baseline) Jonny out Kurt in Jon Mess out Jon Mess in Kurt out Jonny in Jonny out Tillian in Tillian out Tillian in Tillian out We are here So if we follow the pattern Jonny will be back and be out within an album or two. 😂

[@bastakaytv2825]

It's a cycle.

[@conner_friesen]

lol new vocalists are like step dads hahaha

[@pongo9639]

Tilians catchy pop vocals and Will's magical guitar bullshittery was an absolutely lethal combo that solidified DGD as my #1 band by far. I have no doubt they'll be fine, but it won't be the same without Tilian's vocals. End of an era for sure. It'll be interesting to see if they get someone else or if Andrew will become the new face. I've really enjoyed what he's brought so far.

[@ECxTheMaster]

He's pretty much being forced into the singing role. Vocal tracking begins next month

[@unLUCKY95]

You can't go onto a single DGD music video on KZbin without seeing arguments about which vocalist people like the most.

[@bastakaytv2825]

Not a single video.

[@southerntrendkill4889]

​@@bastakaytv2825DGD is one of my favorite bands, but dear Lord, do I hate the fan base

[@bastakaytv2825]

@@southerntrendkill4889 You can't blame us and even yourself. They hired a lot of front men. People can't help but bias. But solid DGD for life!

[@southerntrendkill4889]

@@bastakaytv2825 I get having a favorite vocalist. I don't think there is one bad DGD album or vocalist. Everyone has their own style. I heard them for the first time around Instant Gratification, so naturally, Tilian is my favorite, but Kurt and Johnny are great, too. But the fan base warring against itself is ridiculous, especially the 'fans' claiming if you don't like a certain vocalist then you're not a real fan, or you're somehow a bad person for preferring Tilian's era. I'm sad he's gone cause I was looking forward to more back and forth vocals with Andrew, but hey, it's not my band

[@bastakaytv2825]

@@southerntrendkill4889 I'm a Jonny guy. (Not a fan of him as person though). But still, chairs man, we're both a fan of a great band.

[@slayabouts]

“12 years? That’s enough time for your step dad to become your dad” Lmao

[@luisjimenez8971]

You can’t forget when Jon Mess left and came back too 😂

[@icame2showu]

Yeah but he left because he went and got surgery.

[@peteypablopicasso]

Andrew: hey guys you know I can sing right everybody: shut up Andrew

[@Sebastianbaraj5]

He doesn't have a say in this 🤣

[@peteypablopicasso]

@@Sebastianbaraj5 Eidola. More like Eidon’tcare if you can sing, am I right?

[@NicDemo]

@@peteypablopicasso Not really. Andrew is goated. Tilian is wack af.

[@peteypablopicasso]

@@NicDemo I agree but this is funnier

[@Andre_Maldonado]

When they had Andrew do lead vocals on tour after the tilian allegations came out, Andrew said that he did not wanna be the main vocalist. He said it was just a one time deal

[@haydenpeach3667]

Let’s not forget that Andrew Wells covered for Tilian and Jon on tour when they both got sick. AND covered vocals for Tilian the entire time he was gone.

[@ethanburch1239]

I would cry if andy got that gig

[@evanchau6862]

No he must remain pure and not be part of the curse lol

[@nothere941]

A Wells is sick tho. He nailed the parts better than Tillian imo

[@realtalk6195]

You forgot about Slaves, which is the third band where Jonny Craig was replaced.

[@FloridaDude22]

Rain city drive🤘😂

[@Cavemanner]

Yeah and it's too bad. In the case of Emarosa and DGD they seemed to be better off without him, but Slaves (now Rain City Drive) are the most boring, generic post-hardcore possible with the replacement vocalist.

[@azure8696]

That step dad analogy is perfectly spot on 💯😂🤣

[@RudeXII]

they should just get Andy Cizek to sing for them. That man collects bands like Thanos collects powerstones

[@AugustPeters-yg5rr]

yea but tillian and jonny have such unique voices idk if andy could match them

[@MaestroKatProductions]

Funny that you mentioned Andy, considering he fell out with Tillian a few years back

[@RudeXII]

@@MaestroKatProductions he now has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever

[@lukethemuse9921]

I’d be down for Cizek DGD 👍

[@MaestroKatProductions]

@@lukethemuse9921 Dance Andy Dance

[@valintime2313]

All I heard was, "some stuff happened, and then more stuff happened, I'm shotty on the lore. More stuff happened, there's a whole subreddit you can read on this"

[@pigsinspace9927]

In my opinion Tilian was the best vocalist the band ever had, songs like Son of Robot and Care will forever be some of my favorite despite whatever may have happened

[@victorkreig6089]

Lol no, he will never be better than Jonny But then again neither will Jonny since he's basically ruined his voice over the past decade with all the drugs and stuff

[@MLDesigns]

TIME FOR MORE SECRET BAND

[@jamesmorse3610]

Shhhh! 🤫 Tillian doesn't know

[@davidnissim589]

I'm hoping that Kurt Travis comes back. He's currently working with Will in Royal Coda, and he also filled in for Tilian on DGD's 2022 tour.

[@rendrag13]

They should go full meme and get an ai vocalist. Get emo Hatsune Miku and Jon mess together lol

[@mentaltelepathy24]

Just bring in Rando's, maybe they will get Bruce Springsteen lol.

[@breadtilian]

Andy Cizek & Jon Mess screaming on the same track would be pretty wild

[@alleycatdevil]

Or Tom Byrne!!!

[@GhostlyFilm]

WAIT THE DUDE FROM MAKARI?!!!!!

[@breadtilian]

@@GhostlyFilm yea I’d be happy with him, Kurt Travis, Brian Butcher, or Jonny Craig

[@dylon2372]

The chaos of DGD timeline is reaching Star Wars levels.

[@RetriMusic]

“We can’t be cancelled” tour with cj mcreery is an insane sentence

[@mike_mad2803]

I think they could also hire Donovan Melero as a vocalist, I think he could have potential and he looks like a really nice guy and since a lot of DGD's members already have a band with him, they'd for sure get along. Donovan is also one of the most extremely talented musicians I've ever seen in my life

[@lukekingsley937]

LMFAO THE END “Just get Tyler Carter :D”

[@gadafthegreat]

Andrew Wells is more than likely gonna do the clean vocals now.

[@timtrolll]

But Eidola

[@gadafthegreat]

@@timtrolll He already plays in DGD so he will still probably do both.

[@GuillermoHernandez-h6d]

I remember seeing he doesn't wanna do it

[@ShayneMacGregor]

Highly doubt it. He already said he didn't want to be the vocalist of DGD.

[@victorkreig6089]

Andrew is the Toki of the band, he can BE the vocalist but he's most content being backup

[@Art3mis1039]

wait till you find out about gobby… we have NO fuckin idea what’s going on there

[@christiankettlewell]

Hope to hear more Andrew vocals in the future. As mainly an Eidola fan, I can’t get enough of his parts

[@mentaltelepathy24]

new Eidola album is mint

[@christiankettlewell]

@@mentaltelepathy24 oh hell yeah. I’ve already listened to it 20 times lol

[@Mukduck619]

Underrated band

[@toddself5838]

Andrew needs to separate from them. Eidola needs to keep their integrity.

[@2xYuW]

​@@toddself5838 There's no such thing as this "integrity" you speak of in Swancore bands. Everybody's everywhere doing their thing. Sergio has like 5 bands off the top of my head, probably more. Donovan is the lead for 3 bands. Even Will Swan is everywhere, like c'mon 😂

[@sinssideshow]

I could see them bringing back Kurt or just moving forward with Andrew. Andrew is an amazing vocalist and already a full member.

[@victorkreig6089]

Craig Owens or bust

[@sinssideshow]

@@victorkreig6089 while I think Owens would be a good fit, he's doing his thing with D.R.U.G.S., and I think I read recently that Chiodos is reuniting.

[@your_local_hapa]

Someone commented on the post that the band should introduce a female vocalist, and Lauren straight up said “Did someone call?” 😂

[@dadthighs]

Dance Gavin Dance is OUT... Secret Band in IN!! 😈

[@mentaltelepathy24]

We need more Secret Band

[@perchperkinshere4476]

Been waiting sooo long for anything secret band

[@414pseudo8]

At this point it's probably your best option. Let Will get some screams Mathis time

[@dancegregorydance6933]

I hate this opinion

[@sawyeratkinson]

Man 2nd album is god tier

[@s0lephasr248]

So Will Ramos is Step Dad? 🤔 "You're not my dad Will!"

[@adioman543]

Glad that Andrew from Eidola is their new guitarist and I’m gonna assume it was planned to have him replace Tilian for a while. Dude has an angelic voice and shreds a guitar. Hope Eidola doesn’t end but wouldn’t be mad if it’s cause Andrew was the new vocalist.

[@DudeMan-xs3db]

He can’t perform the Tilian hits live though, which are about 90% of their live set’s

[@usukapal]

Honestly love this band even with all the drama, each vocalist is something else

[@robasselin9959]

The stepdad analogy is insane yet so true

[@imraanakollo-arenz1449]

Why I find Andrew getting promoted to main vocalist and Sergio becoming a full time member very likely is because Eidola is planning on either a hiatus or a disbanding after Mend comes out

[@landrysaathoff2418]

Imagine Sergio taking his place on electric as he moves up to front the band, that's crazy. I hope he continues to write guitar if it happens though.

[@imraanakollo-arenz1449]

@@landrysaathoff2418 what would also be funny and a curveball is if they announce Donovan Melero is the new vocalist because DGD functionally becomes Sianvar 2.0😂

[@E10-g1g]

Andy Cizek as the new DGD lead would be insane tbh, we already know he does a great job with their old stuff and his songs would be non problematic when contrasted with older DGD songs (cough cough Honey Revenge). I could also see his singing blending well with Andrew’s. It’s either him or just having Andrew Wells as the full time singer, both variations are ideal lineups for me personally

[@dylandeandrade5231]

As tillian once said "Say you want to know the truth.Well, you can ask me a question I'll tell you something that you may want to hear But I'll lie"

[@Hot_LeafJuice]

If they want a unique, talented, problematic vocalist to keep the rotation going, Tyler Carter is available :)

[@alwaysaninstigator]

Andrew probably doesn't want it, Eidola just dropped Eviscerate (which is amazing-cover it Nicholas) and the second half of it comes out later this year. It would be great if he did it, but he really shouldn't

[@mentaltelepathy24]

Album is mint

[@hirsh4666]

Eviscerate is so good man, wish the band wasn't so niche.

[@theangelbelow88]

Vocalist timeline: Johnny, Kurt, Johnny, Tilian, Andrew Wells (Eidola) and back to Tilian

[@mentaltelepathy24]

next up.... Anthony Green Craig Owens Misha Camacho Kellin Quinn Tyler Carter (he be cool if he wasn't such a creeper)

[@LavosGaming]

Probably back to Andrew after this.

[@Cobalt985]

@@mentaltelepathy24 Kellin Quinn had a vocal audition for DGD! His voice sounds great but his voice with the music sounds bad imo. He doesn't fit at all. Needs more power in his voice. Also you're missing Donovan Melero from that list lol

[@northwindkey]

@@Cobalt985 Tbf, that was Kellin in the 2000s. After shit like the Sonic Frontiers stuff... I think he has it in him now.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Updated: Jonny Kurt Jonny Tilian Andrew Tilian Andrew

[@dougdouglass6126]

Honestly, with the track record they have with vocalists, the idea of them hiring Tyler Carter is hilarious and somehow not unbelievable. I personally think Andrew Wells should take over vocals. He’s an amazing singer and unfortunate as it may be, he’ll go a lot farther with DGD than with Eidola.

[@dalirl3502]

Having talked with Andrew...the band has been having issues with Tilian since Afterburner

[@wattamugen4055]

Out of curiosity what were the problems?

[@mentaltelepathy24]

@@wattamugen4055 Prob his drinking and all. I feel once Tim passed, it really broke Tillian.

[@TheNightdiver]

Following

[@dalirl3502]

@wattamugen4055 he didn't say exactly what it was. BUT he said because of it andrew didn't have alot to do with the album's direction

[@wattamugen4055]

@@dalirl3502 damn that sucks! Andrews vocals and riffs are really great. Hopefully we'll see more in the Future. His parts in war machine are killer

[@sawyerholdorff5234]

Andrew should have been the vocalist in the first place. He’s awesome. They shouldn’t have brought back Tillian

[@todorplavic5827]

We can't be canceled tour with all my favories sounds actually insane

[@robertgodfrey7893]

I love how at the end you're like "Just get Tyler Carter" 😂

[@Andrew_-nr7zt]

I can see Andrew taking Tillian’s place but since he’s busy with Eidola I’m not sure if he will step up to take Tillian’s place

[@GrippySocksEsq]

He's already said he doesn't want to full time

[@brysonxd]

Eidola's next album (Not eviscerate) is already done recording, not to mention andrew and sergio are both in both bands already

[@bm7291]

No offense to Andrew but I think I speak for everyone when I say no one wants to hear dgd with buttrock vocals

[@brysonxd]

@@bm7291 andrew is NOT buttrock😭😭 andrew is a literal perfect mix between an octave-d down tilian and jonny craig, but he can also scream😭😭

[@bm7291]

@@brysonxd even if you’re right… they could pick the singer of hail the sun before Andrew and do better. Hell I would take Jonny over Andrew

[@nitrocatofficial6939]

The Ghost Of Billy Royalton dropped at such a weird time because it was right after Tim died and Tilian getting soft canceled, so Will saying, "DGD always stay united." Gave me so much hopium that Tilian would be back. And then he was for Jackpot Juicer. I thought everything was okay until my friend told me a week ago that they kicked him again and that this was current. My heart can't take this back and forth. Tilian Era DGD is and always will be peak to me 😭😭

[@northwindkey]

Should never have asked him back to begin with, especially when doing so made them delete all their social media stuff where they (Including Tillian himself) acknowledged his coercive, rapey behavior, and replacing them with statements on how Tillian has "Never had problems with consent" (WHAT? He literally admitted to coercing and pushing a girl into sex, that's not consent!). That said inviting Jonny back isn't a good idea either, his history of SA allegations is worse than Tillian's lol. People just decided to ignore it because the drunk violence allegations were more immediate.

[@kingvarien]

Tilian never said he pushed a girl into sex without consent. Creating problems from thin air is like breathing for you people

[@mentaltelepathy24]

new genre of music Abusecore - to soon ?

[@LavosGaming]

I think ultimately, with Tilian, he just needs to get sober and work on that by himself. There's hope for him imo. Jonny though? Dude's beyond lost.

[@mokaskun]

Tillian made some shit and getting kicked from the band was completely justified. But getting back Johnny Craig would be a hell of a shitshot since he's 1000 times worse than Tillian. Hope that scumbag doesn't return to the band or else a lot of people will boycott DGD like really easily

[@kylepelletier420]

@@LavosGamingidk bro Jonny is almost 2.5 years sober and has actually been on a journey of self improvement unlike tilian.

[@1987chrismf]

I think they had allowed him back because of going to rehab and counseling. Most likely they told him he'd need to stay sober, and he didn't.

[@victorkreig6089]

Nah drinking isn't an issue, in fact that's the ONLY thing that Mess even touches

[@timur7381]

DGD concert was the only time I ran into an asshole at a metal show, at least in the recent memory. This dude was very into DGD, was totally wasted, and was in everyone's face. When I asked him to chill a bit, he really got into my face and for a second I thought we'll be throwing down lol. His buddy pulled him away (he was almost as obnoxious himself tbh). Maybe it's the bands I usually see, but the crowds are usually awesome, and even in the pit people would help you get up and not absolutely knock the shit out of you. It was slightly odd seeing a very drunk guy attempting to sing ultra high pitched tracks together with Tillian lol.

[@hhaste]

People like that are no-life tools that will never be anything. They think they know the band members personally because they listen to their music more than someone else, lmao.. weird para-social people that just project their sad feelings onto other people. There's a reason he was wasted drunk..

[@timur7381]

@@hhaste yup, agreed. Spoiled my evening, it was a dope lineup too. Eidola, Polyphia, and DGD.

[@mentaltelepathy24]

I ran into fair shares of that, I think thats every concert. I saw Enter Shikari and I was trying to get to the front front, and these stupid bitches wouldn't move they had plenty of room to move either side and they kept hogging the front, so I got pissed pushed them to the side and was like next time someone saids move fuckin move. And they were pissed, I was with my dad too and he saw how pissed I was, even he was pissed too. Like I would understand if there was no room to move but they had plenty. I was sucker punched in back of head too at Wage War, by some fuckin asshole. I got stuck in circle pit's, lol the best is when I was at Warp with my gf at the time and told her to go into the pit during Enter Shikari show, and she was about too till this girl who was like 18 ran by her with a bloody nose screaming and crying. My GF ran off like a little girl screaming, made me miss the whole fuckin set, she was crying uncontrollably was like why did you take me here lol. Also she wore a coconut bikini top, and jean shorts. Told her not to, because will be made fun of. she didn't want to listen, what happens this DJ called her out he was like yo whats up to the conut tit girl I couldn't stop laughing. I think she was emotionally scar for life. Oh well.

[@connerq3726]

Andrew Wells twirling his mustache deviously

[@joeytiago]

I say they make an album with Donovan from Hail the Sun or get Kurt back and make Happiness II

[@Cobalt985]

DGD with Donovan is basically current Hail The Sun lol, no offense to Big Donny but HTS has definitely been getting poppier the same way DGD did with Tilian. Donovan does so many little side projects I could see an EP or an album with him, but I'd bet that DGD is really looking for someone permanent.

[@philplaystcg420]

God I hope Andrew Wells just becomes their new clean vocalist. He is incredibly talented and will be a perfect upgrade

[@mariocastillo8334]

Here's an idea: maybe they should consider becoming an instrumental band.

[@mentaltelepathy24]

Or just have Mess do screaming vocals lol.

[@katecharles00]

@@mentaltelepathy24that’s Secret Band ha

[@bradleykramer316]

they've released instrumental versions of all of their albums so probably not. The thing that has made DGD so popular has been the dope instrumentals with the singing to match. Otherwise they're just another Chon

[@GameZedd01]

"2005 so almost 20 years" excuse me what? If anyone needs me I'll be passing away in my sleep due to my old age and senility

[@bendooley550]

Haha. This killed me. My thoughts; give tillian love, keep andrew on vocals, grab berthoud for bass, make a farewell album with all the vocalists as features on the final track, retire the name and keep will, matt, jon, and andrew together in another band that makes bangers.

[@bendooley550]

Ill add the misfits kind of had the same deal.

[@dragonaxel9]

Good cover for Secret Band there.

[@RobertZender-n6c]

We all know tillian was texting another child. He gets no love

[@Cobalt985]

This is the most reddit comment I've ever seen, Berthoud has NOTHING in common with these guys style-wise and Sergio Medina is wildly underrated, at least as a guitar player. DGD will move forward into a new era, and HOPEFULLY one free of sexual assault.

[@RurouniMonster]

Jonny is the GOAT of Dance Gavin Dance vocalist.

[@ItsAllMoThug33]

Amen to that

[@andrewholcomb7852]

Ding ding ding , Andrew Wells ?!? I think so . Eidola just dropped their album so it would make sense for him to jump on the project with Dance

[@gachaponn]

The new vocalist being like a step dad is a craaaazy good analogy haha.

[@borisstojanovic6646]

Ok, so what I can conclude from this video is that first, bunch of stuff happened and some people did some stuff, and then some other stuff happened, and some people were accused of doing some stuff so some other stuff happened. Great deep dive! Very informative 👍

[@DJKuroh]

I haven't watched yet. So he just talks around the whole situation without actually getting into what happened? That's kind of wild.

[@borisstojanovic6646]

@@DJKuroh I'll just say, as somebody who is not familiar with DGD history this video was frustrating to watch 😅

[@DJKuroh]

@borisstojanovic6646 Crazy. It should be easy to sum up too. I just got hip to the situation on Reddit. Never listened to them. A whole video should be able to educate viewers, fans and non-fans. I think they may just not want to touch the subject matter on this channel.

[@ronburgandy3891]

I still can't believe they are still going, ready for a new chapter.

[@venomsnekko]

They can either place Andrew as the vocalist (I wouldn't mind, he's pretty good), *OR* They can bring Jonny back cuz it's funny.

[@nickb4344]

I'd bet money that Andrew will take on vocal duties. He did fill in on Tillian's initial hiatus, with Mark from VoM filling in on guitar. Wouldnt argue with that either gor permanent replacement, but i would bet Sergio would come in on guitar. Just one humble prediction 😋

[@future_elevator_music]

@@nickb4344for what it’s worth I thought he sucked singing Tilian’s parts on that tour. Just one man’s opinion, but having a new vocalist who doesn’t have the high range for your most popular songs isn’t the move for this band.

[@Cobalt985]

@@nickb4344 I thought this at first but then I heard that he simply didn't want to do it. I am expecting Kurt Travis or someone entirely new. Not simply by elimination but also the fact that Sergio is playing for DGD and Sergio was really leading Kurt Travis' big band Royal Coda. I am 100% sure they've learned their lesson with Jonny Craig having given him so many goddamn chances.

[@thetimlumbTV]

maybe the new vocalist is also the new Slipknot drummer.

[@Luissv72]

Honestly there's no reason for me to see them live or listen to their stuff without Tillian. He's their best vocalist by a mile (and easy top 3 in the whole scene), it's that simple.

[@mentaltelepathy24]

Tillian is the best, followed by Kurt. I'm trying to see in my head who they can get next.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Johnny is a better singer imho. Tilian is great but even he struggled on the Tree City albums

[@radandpaisley]

Don't forget that Jon Mess (screams) left and came back as well

[@wolfsguitarden740]

As far as I know Johnny has straightened his s*** out and he's the best vocalist I've ever heard yes he's done some f***** u* s*** no I do not supported but God damn... The Johnn era was the best era. And not for nothing slaves has some really good music

[@InkAndPoet]

The problem is he struggles to STAY sober. Forgive me for being pessimistic, but I have a feeling he could still break at any time.

[@wolfsguitarden740]

@@InkAndPoet .yeah...unfortunately that's how it is for most.most musicians I kno who toured..( including myself). Struggled with addiction..some can stay sober but most relapse..I really hope for him he can overcome his demons,too much talent in that man.

[@KayWhyEllie1]

Tillian was perfect every album they were making was sooo good

[@IamZeus1100]

I feel bad for the rest of the band , they all seem to be normal and fine and just have the worst luck with vocalist. Maybe they can get Tyler Carter ? He was Johnnys protege In a sense right ? He hasn’t been canceled I don’t think

[@jeffersonrey2569]

Man, I sure hope that Tyler Carter comment was a joke 😂He hasn't been canceled I don't think 🤣

[@CoffeePotGames]

Lol oops

[@sevel7556]

lol you havent heard the news have you?

[@andrewsharpe7630]

lol then why isn't Tyler still in Issues? He did the same thing Kevin Spacey did and got the same treatment.

[@me-ou3hs]

Idk if this is a joke or not, but if not someone has to tell him

[@tylerseidel809]

Tilian wasn't initially kicked out, he was just off for one tour.

[@gobelin1807]

I really loved what Tillian brought to the band, i'm very sad he left :/

[@just_kespi]

Always wished my dreams about Dowtown Battle Mountain III came true but I never expected to be in this way 🤨...

[@CristianKirk]

Craig can't sing Tilian's parts... so, I don't know what are they going to do. For the record, Tilian never was kicked out, he was taking a time off after the accusations he was part of.

[@Bidens_Diaper]

Yeah, I probably won't listen to them anymore. Anytime I listen to their tracks without tilian I feel like something is missing.

[@dragonaxel9]

Well....He's been dropped now. Soooo.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Well Tilian couldn’t sing Jonny’s parts either. Both are unique vocalists.

[@brandandowns1568]

They always have good music and formed in Sac. Don't care how many vocalists they go through, gonna keep listening

[@NoName-ns6xr]

Ultimately I'm glad they made this decision. Tilian is not a good person and because of what he did i avoided listening to the last album entirely. DGD for a long time was in my top 5 favorite bands but because of everything that happened they lost fans (me included). I hope they bring someone entirely new on who can not only lead the band in a better direction but surpass and overcome tilians legacy

[@Sebastian-ov9mz]

thanks for the news! was wondering what was up been a fan since the second album

[@originalrkmorton]

Game of Thrones but metal

[@rizkinugrahaha]

honestly, Mothership was their best album by far

[@keatonisballin]

I'd be fine with them bringing either Jonny or Kurt back. Fuck it lol. That was the best DGD sounded.

[@icame2showu]

CAPPPP 🧢. Great but not the best

[@victorkreig6089]

Nah Craig Owens time to shine, doesn't have Chiodos to worry about anymore

[@shanemharris]

Monuments and DGD touring time. Andy does double overtime, but because he's a freakishly talented vocalist he'll somehow pull it off. Everyone wins, the end.

[@meb_867]

Just bring kurt back, his only offense was chainsmoking before performances 😂

[@shanepeterson6640]

I think they could easily just have Andrew Wells take over all clean vocals and continue on just fine.

[@cameronharrington6813]

This news made me so sad ngl

[@kirwynxciv8344]

Always loved JC, DTBM1 is an absolute classic and while I enjoy their other albums, they don’t come close to that first one for me. Haven’t listened to them in years but would definitely buy tickets to see them with JC again lol.