Explaining the Great Plants Vs Zombies VS Mode Tournament

[@Danerade]

Thanks for watching! Please tell me what you thought of the video down here in the comments =).

[@arbiter771]

love u bro :]

[@jbdbibbaerman8071]

The video was super well put together. I especially loved that intro as well as that montage with shyguymask

[@owlcat9644]

Everything was awesome as always

[@nknj902]

Pretty good video kepp it up

[@BigMan-hd7gy]

Amazing as always. Hilarious, great editing, not one dull moment in this video

[@Shyguymask]

Don't tell Danerade that when he literally got coached by someone to specifically counter Starfruit against me, he still lost most of his games against me iirc hehehehehe

[@Danerade]

I won't tell him ;).

[@rafexrafexowski4754]

Hi Shyguymask

[@Joosher56]

Hi shyguymask

[@nknj902]

Hi shyguymask

[@RYUMIXTAPE]

ok

[@BulbasaurRepresent]

"he does speedruns here and there" bruh on Friday I did 7 hours of puzzles runs

[@PlasmaSheeP]

Trolled

[@acake6654]

Trolled

[@linguine1091]

We do a little bit of trolling

[@Thefallenpea]

Trolla

[@Kittycat7070-]

Yo it's the guy from the discord server

[@RNB_Jerry]

Danerade rants about starfruit. Also danerade loses to starfruit in the tournament.

[@michaeljonathan9715]

starfruit is not a bad plant but you have to use it correctly to be useful

[@flaggy185]

@@michaeljonathan9715 spam it un the middle...you basically won

[@michaeljonathan9715]

@@flaggy185 yes, but don't forget starfruit in versus mode have + 50 sun cost than in other mode. So, plant sun producer then plant stall for early wave then plant starfruit.

[@flaggy185]

@@michaeljonathan9715 that's why they use the puffshrom, it's cheap and works as early defense Also, Shyguymask said in his video that people understame Starfruit, even with his high cost, it's really powerfull in both modes, but well, you basically cover almost al lines with it, and if you spam you turn the field into a bullethell

[@michaeljonathan9715]

@@flaggy185 Yes but any zombie tougher than basic zombie will beat puffshroom(s). Ex. : trashcan, screendoor, conhead, etc. In conclusion, only use puffshroom against basic zombie, imp or as a stall spam.

[@Joosher56]

PvZ versus mode has no reason to be as good as it is. Thank you Popcap

[@rumblebird9888]

If only they did something like this again

[@rumblebird9888]

Not only that but the multiplayer is only on Xbox

[@bingobo2551]

@SuperMitsa I think the main reason there’s not anymore of a vs mode is that is was on the ds version. Remember ds extra modes such as the mini games from sm64ds and nsmbds never came back or even the voice chat from Metroid prime hunters never returned to other games in the same way

[@idonutunderstand7280]

And frick you EA

[@PikaJim]

IKR

[@kBandik]

Conclusion: Don't go to school kids, practice your vs mode :)

[@Danerade]

Being the best at VS Mode will lead you to go much farther in life than going to school :).

[@notbob1163]

Ok.

[@edgycabbage4988]

@@Danerade yeah seems about right

[@indiaballanimationsandgames]

Dude im a kid Not lying And uhh No one will let me

[@Pyrodiac]

@@Danerade The sad part is that's slightly true.

[@T3rr0r626]

This was an incredibly well made video! I especially liked the SGM 1v1 compilation, I could only imagine how long this video took to make with all the great looking transitions and special effects.

[@matteofontana_]

Hi terror!

[@scrubz5326]

Terror hi

[@voltagon8844]

Hey Terror! Surprised to see you here.

[@seawarshark6674]

Hello there

[@the_nepic]

Terror didn't expect to see you here ma dude keep it up!

[@whatyoulookinfor]

Quebecker here, I just want to add to your comment about Quebec’s view on English. Quebec has a really rough history with the rest of the canadian provinces as it was originally a French colony. When the British conquered what was “New-France” at the time, they attemped to suppress French culture. I’m gonna skip a huge chunk of history, but the important thing to know about Quebec is the preservation of French has always been an integral thing to its population. Today, Quebec understands that it is a part of an English country, and therefore understands that they cannot completely ban French, especially due to the huge immigrant population in regions like the island of Montreal and the South Shore. So as a compromise, Quebec allows and teaches English, but has many laws such as Bill 101, which force French to be the main language of the province. English and French can coexist in media but the French portion must be larger. Apologies for this random long comment lol. Good video

[@callumosborne2251]

Come on man. I just finished learning that in school I cannot escape the history lessons

[@maestrofeli4259]

thanks for your comment. I learned something new today thanks to Dane's little comment and your explanation :)

[@theangrysuchomimus5163]

Plus you have to learn English even if you go to the French school.

[@captainpotatochips1367]

Bro didn’t have to write a whole thesis tho

[@nmmeswey3584]

quebec is like the only french ex-colony that doesnt absolutely hate France

[@PlasmaSheeP]

Man i appreciate the artist that drew "PlasmaSheeP" but Minecraft sheep version , I love it! Also this tournament is fun and we do enjoy a lot gotta admit that our first match was the best battle ever

[@enderallygolem]

:lalapad:

[@seawarshark6674]

OOOOOOH he's here!

[@Sarkgalia]

my friend Candice died of ligma

[@jackletree4300]

P

[@Summon-Inc]

@@Sarkgalia did we ask

[@snore178]

I literally slowed down the video to hear that super sped up disclaimer lol. He basically said that it was his opinion and it was probably gonna be different, and how he believes his tier list will become outdated as time goes on

[@gaminghippo2219]

Time well spent

[@jackletree4300]

Same

[@joandarc441]

OG Plants vs zombies and OG angry birds are awesome I remember they have a lot of ports

[@coder5815]

Love how he treats other like normies He treats Shyguymask like some sort of dark souls boss As shyguy enters the room epic music plays

[@胡高平]

Doomshroom: *exists* Literally every zombie in a galactically too large zone: Guess I'll die

[@monky4163]

I really loved how they gathered a bunch of pvz youtubers for a tournament, it was very entertaining for me. Im glad there are still videos being made on it :) Am I the only one who wants a second tourament?

[@Dino-lemon265]

Helo

[@ninjawolfy1510]

No

[@ViddysVids]

Im glad I could show for at least a little bit of the original streams. It was very fun, and THIS video was AMAZING

[@SnowDoge0]

Hi I love your videos

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

@@SnowDoge0 same

[@jonnydestro43]

Remember when i single handedly turned a danerade stream's chat into singing poems?

[@scrubz5326]

Oh yea

[@trilogyprions9924]

That was you!?

[@kirberburgy]

@@trilogyprions9924 who else was it gonna be

[@WoesOfSlimes]

To think PvZ Co-Op was a Silly little side Mode for the Game with no Real Purpose then Having a bit of Fun then Turn into a Complex Strategy based Game that has so, SO Meny Strategies and Outcomes "Possibly" Accidentally made.

[@tangerinepaint3643]

Sounds like Smash somehow turning into a competitive game despite being originally marketed as a party fighter

[@areaxisthegurkha]

​@@tangerinepaint3643every party game nintendo has broken many friendships.

[@N0__N4M3]

It's been more than 2 years, and this video still inspired countless souls to join and give VS Mode a try. Such a masterpiece that deserve to go down the history of this game.

[@Destroyers007]

Very amazed that I helped raise a 16 person discord server about this to having well over 200 members including these youtubers :)

[@damgaronfire]

You have every right to brag about it. Thx man

[@MrWeeb-cx9db]

Cool

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

Cool, but what did you do to help?

[@Destroyers007]

@@pvzversusmodemaster I was a moderator for a while when the server started, remember?

[@smilestime2]

Has anyone ever wondered why VS mode is only on day? Imagine the strategies on pool, roof, night, and fog. Night would allow zombies to spawn from gravestones when a wave is summoned, there would be no brain or sun from the sky, and mushrooms don't need coffee bean. Pool would add an extra lane, an "ambush" for a wave, and pool lanes. Fog would probably not work, but it would be interesting to see it implemented. Roof would also be hard to implement, but maybe it starts the plants with flower pots, and tombstones cost 25 more brain(s).

[@Blixir]

I hope they make a PVZ game around the VS mode. It'd be cool to get matched with other players online to battle as Plants and Zombies.

[@Swcher]

PvZ Heros?

[@Blixir]

@@Swcher Well yeah, but i mean multiplayer with the actual classic pvz mechanics.

[@clarissaokeSkittlecat]

garden warfare?

[@Blixir]

@@clarissaokeSkittlecat A normal PVZ game.

[@AverageGooose]

anyone noticed he forgot to put Melon-Pult in his new plant tier list?

[@doritos4956]

Not that good

[@doritos4956]

Not that good

[@ButterStick64]

Not that good

[@goldenpig6453]

Not that good

[@vincenthaynes3603]

@@doritos4956 bc it should be like 175 instead of 300

[@SnoFitzroy]

I feel like the tournament may have been slightly more "accurate" if it were 6 battles instead of 3 - 3 battles for each player on each side and that would hopefully work out issues like players randomly consistently getting the side they do better with.

[@Kowery105]

I feel like they could been a problem with this because both players could then get 3 wins and tie This would then make it into 7 battles

[@marcusmoores7834]

God that animated scene with shyguymask as cackletta and danerade as bowser was awesome

[@AlenRiddickMusic]

Woah. That was freaking awesome 😯 The production level is insane. I'm so honored to be a part of this. The song fit the scene perfectly 😊

[@Pokeball35]

Finally got around to watching this, and this was very well done! The first time I ever played PVZ was the DS version and I remember playing VS mode with friends at school & even my dad some times. I also want to say, Thank You Danerade for singlehandedly getting me back into PVZ. Last year I randomly got recommended your video about the PVZ2 Eclise mod and I was like "IK there's mods for the first game, but there's mods for PVZ2???" and I streamed the entirety of Eclise AND Grind Thousand & I'm currently streaming the new update to GT. I fell off of PVZ2 back around the end of 2014 and I played PVZ1 again in 2019, but finding out about the PVZ2 modding community changed my life for the better. IDK why I hadn't subbed before, but now I am!

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

Interesting, I never heard of Danerade until I saw his videos of the PVZ Versus Mode tournaments. Though, I played PVZ heavily before that.

[@GeneralJon]

I guess we don't talk about the other rock paper scissors we did...

[@CoolpeaOfficial]

Hai general jon :-)

[@seawarshark6674]

Oh hi Jon

[@MrWeeb-cx9db]

Me when the

[@mamoth2128]

The biggest flex you can have is being good at Mario kart or PvZ versus

[@RGC_animation]

Fun Fact about VS mode: VS mode introduced ONE new Zombie that wasn't in the adventure mode, which is the Trash Can Zombie, that is as strong as a Buckethead Zombie, but so goddamn slow that I'm pretty sure a Peashooter can kill it.

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

Puff Shroom can kill Trashcan Z in 3 tiles of its slow walking. I just tested it.

[@RGC_animation]

@@pvzversusmodemaster That's just deppresing.

[@razerclaw0000]

Danerade description: I spend money to make a 40 minute video explaining why starfruit is bad Shyguymask: Are you challenging me?

[@AlbinoHarambe1]

It's satisfying knowing all this as kid through versus on the DS, 360 and watching people actually acknowledge it

[@Summon-Inc]

It’s satisfying, cause I still play it lol, even before this video.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

Your journey, and this PvP for PvE game scenario... I see myself in you, and PvZ Versus in Rimworld PvP. The Summer Cuck Cup 2022 was the tournement I participated in (... Not like there are any other Rimworld tournements) and I actually really struggled with vanilla Rimworld, even more PvP Rimworld since that became more of a RTS, then I had a short training arc to improve before going into the Cuck Cup 2022 (Yes, actually its name). It was similiarly structured like this tournament, also with 8 teams of two. We came, we fought best out of 3's, we won the first two matches. The finale however, that was a sad display, and while we won the first round with RNG but then lost the second to RNG, and the third because I paniced and instead of doing the smart thing, I did... Something.

[@DesperateDirt]

As you said yourself, you have came a very long way from that PvZ 3 video. I'm impressed with how you've managed to improve your content so much in just a bit over a year. While I enjoy some of your videos more than others, you feel like another one of those KZbinrs that can talk about anything and make it entertaining. I look forward to your future content and seeing how you could improve your videos even further.

[@pennyiesplus21]

when i first got pvz on ps3 i remember trying to get my firends to play it with me but they wanted to play co op so only my siblings would play vs mode with me

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

I remember having only one DS years ago. So only when I meet people who have DS and want to play is when we could play.

[@pennyiesplus21]

@Gogi Poggers its ps3 xbox exclusive

[@CorneliusCob]

You probably know this already, but in the ds version, they for some reason made the football zombie's power unholy

[@The_Bahamian_Intellectual]

Yes lmao

[@versedrhyme41]

It was sometime around 2013 when I played PvZ and many other titles on my DSi at school with a bunch of friends, we had alot of fun. I owned most of the cartridges which gave me an advantage over everyone else by knowing all the strategies on vs mode and when snaking was introduced to Mario Kart DS, or knowing where all the stars and powerups would spawn on NSMBDS and SM64DS, really fun times, thank you nintendo and popcap.

[@camping6464]

"Maybe try asking darenade" - ItsPforPea 2021

[@JohnS-ki2zf]

Literally saw this on the Xbox store yesterday and almost bought it

[@Immadeus]

PvZ versus mode at EVO when?

[@deyvantwo5426]

@Grayson Sherman basically the equivalent of the superbowl for fighting games

[@AStackofBotNot]

I’m a simple poke-fan, I see rowlet and bulbasaur, I click.

[@theshoal12]

same lol. I clicked on this video because I saw bulbasaur in the thumbnail

[@TheMasterIsHere]

iF mIleSPrOwer WAs in tHIS, hE WoUlD win eVerY GaME EASILY.

[@Null82085]

I wish that we had VS. mode instead of arena in pvz2

[@nyxxose]

Who would’ve thought that this game made almost 10 years ago would not have a meta for a LONG time?

[@pokemongamer6021]

Man..... I remember this concept waaayyy back. I don't remember the KZbinrs who played it but I always watched them play the versus mode....

[@TwoTwoTwane]

Holy shit, someone finally is talking about this, i used to play this with my brother

[@danielsurvivor1372]

My thoughts on your Zombie meta(as a layman) Stock zombie makes sense to be S tier. I think the reason stock zombie is so good is because it's not balanced for this gamemode. Stock is balanced for regular PvZ where he only appears as a very very small pressure/reminder that zombies are attacking, they're like flag zombies. And what makes them weak is that they're weak, don't appear in big groups and have random spawn. But in vs mode you can control both the number of em and where to spawn them, giving zombies a slight advantage early game. Pogo makes sense as S tier, probably would've also put him so high, those b*stards are annoying in regular game so ofc they're annoying here. Gargantua also makes sense, although he's more dangerous here since you can control where to send him plus he's gonna come out way earlier then adventure mode gargantuan. Bungee idk what to think of him but your logic is sound. Wish you talked about screen door and buckethead being in A tier. I guess they're just a good support for basic zombie? As in they're good for pressure or basic zombie can tank instances while buckethead is behind him. I REALLY wish to hear your explanation for Football and Dancer being B only, I'd think those two would be stronger, especially dancer one. Again I haven't personally played vs mode, but from what I seen, dancer is usually the zombie that ends up winning vs matches. C tier also needs a lot of explanation, I guess pogo and conehead I can understand but why paper zombie is low? Xd D list makes sense, they don't seem to be fast enough for vs mode where speed seems everything for zombie player. And f... Yeah no arguement here, Jackobox is just bad, and i assume they didn't buff him for vs mode. And what's even flag zombies ability? Maybe if he buffed zombies he could be A tier?

[@bakes1324]

Flag zombie straight up spawns and wave of zombies. When is used to play this game with friends a lot of times the zombie player would resort to siege tactics so the catapult zombie and cheap zombies up front (trash can, regular,conehead) but we’d use the flag zombie when the plants defense were weakened.

[@Plovazo]

Waited almost a year and still no video of unedited gameplay of all battles. We're waiting Danerade!

[@megaedge2762]

This is very enjoyable to watch. I’m glad I found your channel!

[@pokeinator7834]

This, was the last pvz video from danerade’s channel,why? It was so good😭😭

[@derphatchief7899]

out of all games to have a montage i would have never expected PvZ to get one

[@officersoulknight6321]

One of my first vids I’ve seen by you, that was one hell of an intro

[@Veilure]

Love the SiIvagunner reference at 30:01!

[@thefancydoge8668]

Ive been playing the first pvz since it came out and ive been wanting something like this for years

[@sillygooseLLC]

Ok but this video is genuinely funny. Editing was spot on, and jokes rarely (if ever) fell flat. Actually got a few out loud laughs instead of the usual nose hair exhale.

[@joaopedromullerlima654]

Someone needs to make this into an online PC thing. Idk about the legal stuff but if it could happen I'd be awesome

[@neonbunnies9596]

Danerade really be playing mind games in trying to choose his plants and zombies

[@elvanaslan4435]

Dudeeeee, you are sooo underated. I loved the editing in this vid

[@unqueb]

As a quebecker myself its true that in Quebec we try to preserve french as the official language and alot of my friends are still uneasy with english and i totally understand shyguy's point of view

[@sambarber944]

Bruh this is the first time I ever found out there was a PvZ competitive scene! This has made me happy beyond words-

[@NovZoom]

Me who's been playing VS in PVZ on my XBOX-360 with my brother sense 2013: *LOOK WHAT THEY NEED TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUR POWER!*

[@justapickel2159]

This was the shortest 40 minutes ever

[@ColiasPalaeno]

Damn that completelly out of nowhere Woodrow Wilson burn, goddamn, went straight for the kill.

[@Jae77]

Damn this was a super well made video. Love the buildup and engagement 😀

[@dcincco]

“Having a nuke at your disposal is OP” Man, I wish there was a multiplayer plants VS zombies VSs mode in PVZ2

[@Plovazo]

The perceived "Arenaz" sucks. But there is a fan game that combines PVZ2 and VS Mode together. It is called "PVZ It's Versus Time" and there's a video on it.

[@Summon-Inc]

@@Plovazo arenas isn’t multiplayer, that’s the funnier part

[@Plovazo]

@@Summon-Inc yeah. Wait, I need to pause for over 1 hour in middle of battle, then come back.

[@Summon-Inc]

@@Plovazo LMAO

[@facehd1958]

That 1 person that disliked this actually likes the fact that EA made pvz pay to win.

[@Shyguymask]

ea bad popcap good

[@BBBB-xu1op]

@@Shyguymask lmao

[@ARandomSpace]

@@Shyguymask yes

[@notsharing5887]

you know its kind of refreshing to see a youtube video where the youtuber ends up losing horribly

[@themediocrepuppet5842]

Honestly first time on this channel and I’m so happy to finally see someone else agrees how bad starfruit is! Also found it to be a bad plant every sense it was only just PVZ1 lol

[@WeebSsamm]

This is a very well made video with absolutely great editing with a very interesting topic ngl

[@Blanks8]

1:01 Eh still looks better than PvZ3 does

[@pandy9049]

i like how even picking the plants and zombies is strategy based

[@commandercarrot6335]

How many pvz stuffed animals do you have ?

[@commandercarrot6335]

I also have some

[@fyecofi]

4 but I plan to get more

[@thegreenbeast5178]

Me: "mom can we get Gatorade?" Mom: "we have Gatorade at home." Gatorade at home:

[@goose7618]

Why did this make me actually laugh god I'm a failure

[@aleshakaner-roth6990]

This was a really cool and interesting video. Throughout it you kept mentioning that plants have the advantage, how do you think you could balance the game between plants and zombies so both have the option to play aggro or stall or just how would you change the more in general? I would be interested in seeing a video on this.

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

Balancing would be useful. While I don't know any video which discusses this, I do know a place where people have discussed balancing options including my own takes. And also play style is in consideration as well just in case we cannot edit code to balance the game.

[@alittleofeverythingandoj]

The fact he won all the games of rock paper scissors though

[@Thatoneguy15547]

13:31 i laughed so hard Lmao

[@yux4111]

I liked that you represented shyguy with the bowser enemy

[@JamJam117]

Best part was 3:41

[@a26lolhart]

I would've thought it'd be general jon and shyguymask in the finals.

[@donanilao7724]

Imagine losing due to RNG. I relate way too hard.

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

Agree, and random battle in PVZ Versus Mode can be severely unfair for Plants

[@masterblaster38]

"After talking and figuring out how parsec works" Man i died with that for some reason.

[@matteofontana_]

I just love the editing

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

I think we all want to see the videos of all the complete matches/games/battles for the tournament. Reply if you want to see all the games/battles/matches.

[@Polaris5664]

If someone made a competitive balance patch it would revolutionize this mode.

[@plovazosextrachannel6348]

Yes, make Repeater, Threepeater, and Doom-Shroom more expensive to start off.

[@milesandrews6711]

@Vincent Tripple and to balance it out make newspaper the same recharge

[@NasuNanu]

I wish you had explained the tier list and some of the plants and zombies a bit more. Like, why is kernel pult so much lower than cabbage? What does flag zombie do? etc. Still, great vid tho 👍

[@goose7618]

Kernel-Pult essentially relies on RNG (luck) to be good. While Cabbage does the same Damage Per Second as a Peashooter, if Kernel doesn't throw butter, then it's Damage Per Second is laughable at best. Flag Zombie summons a huge wave of zombies, and while that sounds good, it's price of 300 brains for something that the plants can counter pretty easily with some Fume-Shrooms or Cabbage is only viable in Sudden Death, when you can get a large stream of brains. With enough Gravestones, you can get enough brains to place another Flag Zombie right after it's cool-down ends, but even then plants can fend that off with some skill

[@DahHourglass]

Why is flag zombie F

[@Shyguymask]

Super expensive and only spawns several basic zombies with maybe one Buckethead zombie, but even then they come out from the bush instead of out of the ground closer to the plants.

[@DahHourglass]

@@Shyguymask I can under stand but if a players not fully guarded it can catch them off guard also its basically I bunch of zombies in one spot so its saves on space

[@DahHourglass]

@@Shyguymask by the time the you fully plant all the graves you'll have plenty of Brains and by the time they kill them you'll have enough brains again and it'll be recharged

[@ozgurruh2535]

@@Shyguymask so shyguymask i wonder why is catapult zombie so low it can damage sunflowers on the back then start destroy the defence plants and then attack generally needing a spuash to stop it

[@pvzversusmodemaster]

t cost 300 and all walks from the back, which is significant because plants get plenty of time to prepare to defend. Cherry Bomb destroys half of its wave. Here is an excerpt from the PVZ Versus Mode almanac for Flag Z. Recharge Time: 30 BSD, 10 ASD (seconds) Health (Minimum & Sum of total health from all zombies in the same wave): 88 Health (Flag Zombie): 10 Health (Regular Zombie): 10 Health (Conehead Zombie): 28 Health (Buckethead Zombie): 65 ━Contains one Flag Zombie ━Contains five or more Regular Zombies ━Contains either at least one Conehead Zombie or one Buckethead Zombie but not both of them ━The minimum total health which is the sum of the health of all zombies ━The Flag Zombie walks slightly faster than all other zombies in that flag wave.

[@krusk3544]

I remember how I had this game on every platform, I even had the original PC DVD with the proper michael jackson zombie

[@snapslingpeavine1371]

How old are you?

[@richcull1157]

Probably in college or a highschooler

[@DaRainbowDude]

I wouldve honestly liked a threepeater meta where it would threaten/destroy many graves and target zombies easily

[@HizuiSneazel]

I know there's a list in the description, but I need to know the name of the song that begins playing at about 28:14. Epic video btw 👍

[@romancatholicgameing]

37:24 *loading Explaining the Great Plants Vs Zombies VS Mode Tournament* *video loads* "Remember, no Lawnmower" *pulls out squash from inventory*

[@giatuanle6756]

Shyguymask's POV: mario vs bowser Danerade's POV: bowser fighting the Shyguymask ghost

[@freakstage]

I love that majority of the video is explaining the tourney

[@woopyboi7262]

The fact that Detara was not invited here is a crime. I hope he returns some day and that he is alright.

[@kelp-ist3469]

Me who has been playing in pvz versus mode tournies with my friends on my old PS3 in 2015 "so the time has come for pvz versus to strike the heart of the trending page"

[@albertvillanca]

tournament:*intense WW4* me:*watching peacefully while eating bread*

[@pillowy9726]

Bro that intro gave me such good vibes

[@Eddiefrb]

Incredible video dude holy shit I wanna play some vs mode now

[@danielsurvivor1372]

11:40 Bingo, it's like saying "If you're good in PvE you MUST be good at PvP" both are crazy claims. Especially considering how different vs mode is

[@GabrielOflTM]

15:01 we all respect the browncoat zombie, how dare you assume we all under-estimate him

[@FoldTrace]

This is the most ambitiious PVZ crossover yet