Danger Dayton rims part 1

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

GREAT info for those who know NOTHING, very interesting design, don't have or probably would never deal with this but very interesting, thanks for taking the time

[@VitoVeccia]

Our late 90's macks had those widow makers. We had piles of new wedges in stock because the rim would rotate on hub, when they wore out. You could always tell, because the spoke would be jammed against the valve stem. The fronts were easier.

[@trucking-driving-mechanic]

@@VitoVeccia was the Axle factory the reason I ask is I had a customer that bought a 2007 dump truck that someone put that kind of drive axles under it the steers was pilot rims and the drives was Dayton . But I am Human so I do make mistakes but I am always trying to learn from them.

[@joecummings1260]

There are different width spacers, different wedge lengths, rims that have been spun, rims with the stops torn off, riims somebody welded nuts on for stops. You have to inspect them good for wear and mismatched parts or they will spin again. I grew up with them on just about everything. The wedges can hurt alot , leave a bruise, maybe knock your front teeth out, but they aren't deadly. The real Widowmakers are the Kelsey-Hayes 2 piece wheel you used to find on medium duty trucks. Hopefully they are all scrapped by now. Ford had a wheel like that too, I think it was an RH5

[@VitoVeccia]

@@trucking-driving-mechanic I want to say yes, but can't be certain. After 1.5 million miles, anything is possible.

[@VitoVeccia]

@@joecummings1260 yeah, I had a wedge fly by my face years ago. Learned that lesson quick! Didn't know about different size wedges. I used to call the Mack dealer with the vin and model number, and told them what to send me. I also didn't realize that Mack had been recycling vin numbers either. Eh, all part of the learning process I guess.

[@joecummings1260]

@@VitoVeccia Parts used to get mixed up in the tire shop, or somebody would have a damaged part and it'd get replaced with the wrong one. What was really dangerous is they would mix up lock rings from one rim manufacturer to another. They'd be close, and they worked, but they didn't really fit right

[@Jude-p7c]

No Disrespect at all to you but, there is 3 different styles of Dayton rims. All of them mount to the hub the same general way, with the cleats. Budd wheels are Budd wheels with 10 outer nuts & 10 inner Lugs. HUB PILOT wheels have only the 10 outer nuts, the HUB keeps the wheels centered. Doing away with the need of Lugs & nuts.😁

[@trucking-driving-mechanic]

@@Jude-p7c I was trying to keep it simple about removing and reinstalling the type of rims I was not trying to get to complicated but thank you for you comment

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

Would you see these types used on like Uhaul rental trucks?

[@trucking-driving-mechanic]

@@REVNUMANEWBERN these type of rim when out somewhere around 1980 so you should not see them much anymore

[@waterboy1556]

Loosen all nuts at once and tap rim with hammer and all the wedges will pop at the same time.

[@trucking-driving-mechanic]

@@waterboy1556 thank you I will try that next time

[@bryontharp5790]

Those rims suck

[@trucking-driving-mechanic]

@@bryontharp5790 yes they do but people can get hurt not knowing about them

[@Jude-p7c]

Not exactly correct! You need a lot more experience with all of the different types of these wheels and rims. You relayed some inaccurate information!

[@trucking-driving-mechanic]

@@Jude-p7c please inform me of what was incorrect so I can learn

[@Robthebengalguy]

What was the wrong information may I ask