Daniel H9 - Unfit For Duty - pt3 - Short

Daniel H9 returned from Daniel Defense today. I declared it unfit for duty. 20240226 #H9 #danieldefense #danielh9 #MAGA

[@larrypeterson9429]

Just bought this last week, soooo excited. Was dry firing to try to smooth out the trigger because it was so stiff and heard something fly out of the muzzle and bounce around. Lubed it up and went to the range to break it in, pull the trigger… and nothing. No primer strike… turns out the firing pin broke off the tip, I’ve got less than 100 rounds through this pistol. Very disappointing to say the least.

[@HollyrockFarm]

In this day and age, dry firing is a normal training tool. The manual says to use a snap cap to prevent damage to the firing pin. I think modern pistols should be capable of sustained dry firing without it causing an issue. When you file your warranty claim, I recommend asking them to check for the issues I have with my copy. It seems these issues are not isolated. At least the Daniel Defense H9 came with a printed manual. My Sig MCX Spear did not. I got referred to a website to download it.

[@rilesmattix5217]

As a metallurgist I can't even imagine how they screwed up the firing pin metallurgy so badly

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@rilesmattix5217 Didn't SIG have some firing pin issue when they launched their P365? If I recall, they claimed it was a heat treatment issue. (I'm a retired cop with no manufacturing or metallurgy experience.)

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

@@HollyrockFarm They did, but to be fair in a gun as small as that was was probably going to have teething issues due to striker drag. This is a full-size handgun so that should be less of an issue not more.

[@crashoverride328]

Rattlesnake Defense and a couple of others experienced keyholing with a H9

[@trumpurace1635]

Sorry for your frustration, thanks for the video and info. Don’t let DD off the hook, they need to make it right for you and everyone else! Definitely a safety issue as well. Obviously you have some technical knowledge and experience, if DD is going to use us as testers they better damn well listen to your feedback and fix it!

[@HollyrockFarm]

I have confidence they will make it right. I can be understanding when it goes back to the factory once. A second time back to the factory, when the keyhole issue is known…not pleased. I hope part 4 with the H9 has me endorsing the H9 and recommending it. We’ll see if it comes back fit for duty…

[@thefrogking481]

Saved me a bunch of money.

[@HollyrockFarm]

You snatch up the A01?

[@bryancbailey]

It’s disheartening to watch companies essentially do the product testing on their customers… especially when you depend your life on these products… thanks for showing all of this to us. Extremely helpful!

[@HollyrockFarm]

Happy to help! Share the message and subscribe to get episode 4 once it comes back from Daniel Defense...again!

[@FoulPet]

Don't pay to be a beta tester

[@ripcurlreadiness8777]

So i was ready to buy this pistol because i love my Hudson H9 .. then i saw the rattlesnake video. So I emailed DANIEL DEFENSE AND let them know about this issue with the key holing. I let them know in some Hudson H9’s they had barrels that were out of spec and the bore was too large. All I got back was a short & sweet response saying thanks for your input. lol. You should measure your bore and see if their barrels are out of spec. And then do another video on this. I really want this gun to succeed but DANIEL DEFENSE NEEDS TO WORK THESE BUGS OUT. I would bet the reason you see no rifling marks is because the barrel the over bore. Also in the original Hudson the guide rod was fixed to the frame. Maybe there was a reason for that ????

[@HollyrockFarm]

I sent my H9 back on 02/27/2024. Their social media contact said he sent my videos to the engineering team and leadership. Hopefully when I get my gun back it shoots straight and still runs great! We’ll see…

[@lakesidemfg3552]

Sounds like that famous DD customer service is gunna get the fan bois wound up.

[@HollyrockFarm]

This is my first Daniel Defense. I thought they had a great reputation but I did not research them more than one video with Larry Vickers and/or TFBTV where they beat the tar out of one of their rifles and it ran great. I recall another video where they were bragging up their QC...guys either got back specs or were on vacation for the H9.

[@matthewsartin7265]

The DA Joke was hilarious 😂

[@GunsBlazingRanch]

My lefty brother ✊

[@HollyrockFarm]

The struggle is real...especially with holsters.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

H9 hardware, engineering, manufacturing, customer service has big problems and poor management. I'm now very happy I haven't bought anything from them.

[@orenthalsimpson]

The rattlesnake guy sent his in to DD and they sent it back still keyholing. He did a test with 7 different ammo types and all the federal ammo keyholed. If you send it in again mark the barrel/ guide rod somehow so you'll know if they even changed it out

[@HollyrockFarm]

As soon as I read your comment, I looked up the video. I hope they keep my gun until they can send it back without the keyholing issue. Good idea on marking the barrel and guide rod... Subscribe for part 4. I'll put it out once DD returns my H9.

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Sorry to hear about your continued issues. I rented one again and had my same issues (lockback w/FTF & 1 rnd left in the mag) that I experienced the last time I rented it. It was shooting way low, too. I promptly returned it to the rental counter and have moved on to other firearms.

[@HollyrockFarm]

It seems like a new product launch issue. With the keyholing and even the guide rod issue, my primary suspect is an out of spec batch of barrels that made it past quality control.

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

@@HollyrockFarm 👍👍

[@nimbusR0234]

@@HollyrockFarm What serial number range is your gun? My original was in the 30xx range, replacement was in the 44xx range - and I also tried a rental at my range that was in the 15xx range. All 3 had the same keyholing issue. However, the 15xx gun seemed a little better with less frequent keyholing.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@nimbusR0234 My serial number is visible in the video…so no secret. H90035XX

[@nimbusR0234]

What ammo were you using during the keyholing? (Sorry if I missed it). FMJ or copper plated? Weight? I have the keyholing issue using Federal Syntech 150 and some copper plated 124 from LAX. No keyholing issue using FMJ (tried a few weights and brands).

[@HollyrockFarm]

The worst for me was the Federal Brass Champion FMJ RN WM51992

[@nimbusR0234]

@@HollyrockFarm Interesting. I'll have to admit, I didn't look that close at any holes that were basically round - because of the ones that were were totally rectangular - like slits - I might have missed some slighter keyholing from the FMJ's.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I put 520 rounds through and didn’t bother to check for accuracy. The Daniel H9 is the first pistol I’ve owned that the gun is to blame when a bullet does not impact where I wanted it to. Every other pistol since my first in 2002 has been more accurate than I am able to shoot it by hand.

[@bigdopamine9343]

I really wanted this and I am so, so glad I waited. I hope they eventually get it super reliable.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Solid plan! I'll make part 4 of the H9 series when I get it back from its second trip to Daniel Defense for warranty repair.

[@greaterpainter7996]

Please keep us updated on the H9. i saw your original 520 rnd video. I was hyped about the H9 but it would seem there are a lot of bugs that need fixing. Subbed to see how things develop.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I hope episode 4 is the positive one! I'm going to fired up if it isn't.

[@pleasebekindtwnty4sven]

I would say give them a chance. It's their first pistol and let's be honest every company had an issue when first developing a firearm. I'm a huge Beretta fan and I get flack for issues that Beretta had 50 plus years ago. But now they're making phenomenal products. Same thing with Glock. Glock had its issues until they fixed it. Sig...... Well we all know about Sig. One day they will fix that problem. CZ had issues until they fixed the problem. It's going to be okay, I would just keep the pistol and just know that in the future they will make better pistols and go beyond our expectations. An accessories I'm sure will be available to fix all of the problems.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I have confidence they will make it right. I can be understanding when it goes back to the factory once. A second time back to the factory, when the keyhole issue is known…not pleased. I hope part 4 with the H9 has me endorsing the H9 and recommending it. We’ll see if it comes back fit for duty…

[@user-cp6sr2lo4z]

I know Sig has had some issues. I bought an M18 without knowing about the issues they were having. Fortunately for me I have over 3500 rounds through it with no issues at all. Extremely accurate too. The only problem I’ve had was when I was teaching a small stature female to shoot it she limp wristed it and caused a stove pipe. After I corrected her on her grip it never happened again. She hit a 10 inch steel at 10 yards 32 out of 32 times. She wanted to buy one but I talked her into buying something more inexpensive that shot just as well.

[@luckymanham302]

@@HollyrockFarmanother channel made a video about the keyholing problem. He returned it and DD sent it back same as it was with the same issue. I wouldn’t expect anything more from them…

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@luckymanham302 I took the following quote straight from their website. I'm going to hold them to it. "All Daniel Defense products carry a 100% satisfaction guarantee against defects in original materials and workmanship. If your Daniel Defense product shows evidence of such defects, Daniel Defense will make every accommodation to fix, repair, or replace your product in the most expeditious manner possible. Daniel Defense does not warranty products or damage caused to our products by the correct or incorrect installation of other manufacturer’s products. Be sure to retain your sales slip as proof of purchase date when making a claim." I normally wait for the bugs to get worked out of a new product before I jump in and get it. I was skeptical but I read this on their website and figured I could take the risk. Plus, I've got a few other quality firearms in 9x19mm so I can do without it while they make it right. If you're talking about @rattlesnakedefense, I'm familiar with his video and the continued bullet stabilization issue. The same day, I made this one... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIe7equYf7Z7Z9ksi=O_U5s7OHPwbYKP-i

[@luckymanham302]

@@HollyrockFarm good for you. You should hold them accountable and they should resolve the issue to your satisfaction. It’s ridiculous that they ask that price, yet don’t deliver a decent pistol. I hope it all goes well for you bro👍🏻

[@liverpool6380]

Dang I had high hopes. I’ve seen lots of issue videos. I love my CZ S2C, I’m waiting on an optic plate for my EPS Carry MRS Green dot. I have a tlr 7A light. I would like to add an extended thumb safety. Over 1K rounds Zero malfunction’s! 🥃🇺🇸 It’s similar in size and capacity to the DDH9… The S2C has a low bore axis

[@HollyrockFarm]

I've not had the pleasure of encountering the Shadow 2 Compact in real life. I can only imagine it is a much lighter version of my A01-C mixed with my P-01. We'll have to give Daniel Defense some time and grace...Lord knows I need all the grace I can get!

[@liverpool6380]

Definitely. Cool design! Always hope the Best for an 🇺🇸 Company. If you find one Buy it. I Love it. I want to add magwell from Lokgrips expected release early Q2 24 Also Lok should have extended base pads for the S2C coming soon. 🥃🇺🇸

[@maxmccain8950]

I wonder how fast the twist rate in the barrel is. Armscor had the same accuracy problem because of a slow twist rate wouldn’t stabilize anything over 115 grain bullets.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm not sure what the twist rate is. If you look at the recovered bullets, they clearly lack the rifling marks that are prevalent in the recovered bullet from the Sig P365. Something is off...

[@StorminNormanTheMormon]

Please keep making videos man, really like your stuff

[@HollyrockFarm]

Thanks, will do!

[@SkyTac]

Been shooting that G9 lately as well. It is amazing! Ammo technology these days is incredible. That 9mm ammo is no joke.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm still not quite sold on the fluted bullets vs. some of the hollow point offerings. My Fudd brain keeps thinking bigger bullets are better than flutes... Full disclosure, I also used words like "stopping power" and thought the 9mm was under powered to be effective. I've been wrong before...

[@hey1010101010929384]

A content creator that makes statements like this I can stand by 💪🏽👌🏽

[@shepardsforgeh2031]

My canik mete sfx was ready to race out the box and I'm 1000 rnds in and it's still a tack driver!

[@HollyrockFarm]

The Canik design seems to have matured nicely!

[@dads2006gt]

Many manufacturers have issues with new models. DD I'm hopeful will make it right for you and many others. The price alone for what little you get with that piece keeps me from ever owning one. Thanks for an honest review. I'll subcribe to that. 👍

[@HollyrockFarm]

I’m confident when I get it back, it will shoot great! Thanks!

[@FitnFire]

Fani Willis/Nathan Wade quip is very timely 😏🙌🏻

[@rayraman3243]

Thanks for the honest review. It's unfortunate that the product didn't fully meet your expectations. I'm really looking forward to getting the H9 myself, and I often look for reassurances before making a purchase-guess it's just human nature! Sig faced similar challenges with the P365 but they managed to resolve them. Hopefully, Daniel Defense will do the same. Really appreciate your insights!

[@HollyrockFarm]

Daniel Defense has been in possession of my Daniel H9 for its second trip for warranty service since 02/29/2024. Today is 04/14/2024. They've not responded to two inquiries I've made via the website "contact." I'm hopeful when they finally return my gun it runs and shoots as advertised. I'd tell you to wait until you start seeing some honest and positive reviews before you buy your Daniel H9.

[@timothybayliss6680]

The best part is all the 'pew...pew pew' that knocked the guide rod off the notch

[@HollyrockFarm]

Those loads were plus pew! 🤣

[@WarrenZevonFan]

I'm very sorry to hear about your issues man. Took your word of advice on earlier videos about waiting for more reviews and feedback. Glad I did. Completely unacceptable for DD to treat customers like beta testers for their $1,300 pistol.

[@positivereactions4044]

Damm right ! Thats sigs job !

[@WarrenZevonFan]

@@positivereactions4044 That's why I ended up getting a Glock 48 MOS over a 365XL. Can't really bring myself to trust a Sig around my junk if I'm completely honest. (even though i know the 320 is the one with the safety issues, not the 365)

[@HollyrockFarm]

I have confidence they will make it right. I can be understanding when it goes back to the factory once. The second time, when the keyhole issue is known…not pleased. I hope part 4 with the H9 has me endorsing the H9 and recommending it. We’ll see if it comes back fit for duty.

[@user-dc9pg1xz4f]

beat me too it @@positivereactions4044

[@noelcaddell3263]

I have one, and my trigger pull is consistently 7.3 lbs and up. I will be contacting DD this week. Compared to my Xmacro at 4.5 lbs, it's horrible.

[@HollyrockFarm]

That is certainly out of spec! I recommend you check for all the other issues (especially keyholing)and make sure to list any all deficiencies when you submit your warranty repair request.

[@cclacrosse16]

i have the same issue with my G19 not ejecting (HST) rounds easily with the slow pull of the slide... is that abnormal?

[@HollyrockFarm]

I haven't been a Glock armorer since Gen4 was the thing. Does it do it with a single particular cartridge or all of them? My general answer would be that is weird and worth further investigation. Additional details could easily change my opinion. A little bit of resistance is not the same as the issue with the H9. It is very noticeable. I've got several Glocks (all .40 S&W), an M&P, CZs, and none of them have the issue like the H9.

[@cclacrosse16]

@@HollyrockFarm interesting.. I just tested with 115gr FMJ and the same thing happens as the HST. Round stays locked in there between striker face and chamber unless you really jerk the slide back. I've never had a malfunction with my G19 so not really concerned but i also tried on my Sig similar to you and comes out nice and easy.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@cclacrosse16 If your Glock 19 is running great and you know you've got to give the slide some force for reliable ejection, there is not much of an issue. The issue I had with the H9 would have resulted in a hole in the house had I not been vigilant. I now know about it. It may not be something out of spec but is something certainly worth noting. Complacency kills. Fight complacency and make sure you Glock has an empty chamber before pressing the trigger for disassembly and you won't have a problem. I took issue with the ejection with the H9 because I was just about complacent...it was enough I got a pucker.

[@Lifeinthecountryfamilyislife]

@@cclacrosse16 My 43x and 48 are the same way. Guess it the new generation glocks. No issues with any malfunctions on either of them and they shoot good so Im going to roll with it

[@HollyrockFarm]

Sounds like solid advice. I went Glock because my agency issued the Glock 22. I do not own Glock in 9mm. My Glocks are all .40 S&W. I was tempted to get a Gen 5 Glock 19. I bought a CZ P-10C instead.

[@carlh1936]

Your video helped. Got a email today from DD. They will ship new barrels to all of us.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Great!! I hope my gun comes back awesome and part 4 is a positive review with a declaration of serviceability!

[@OmegaVestoLord]

What a shame, I knew DD bought the patent for the h9 years ago and have been waiting a long time for them to bring it back. They almost made it worse, h9 had problems with parts breaking, but at least it didn't keyhole. Hard to believe a company known for quality would mess up this bad. Thanks for making the video

[@HollyrockFarm]

Let's hope they make it right and the Daniel Defense and the Daniel H9 are both successful. I may be critical of them, but it is an American company with people working for them. I wish them success...but I will not hold back when I review something.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

LMAO on the fanny & nathan analogy. Thanks, needed that after hearing what wankers that DD are. Your recounting of events shows multiple failure points in design, manufacturing, QC, and customer service. DD is a no-go. Wondering if they weren't contractually obligated to retain 'dead weight' from Hudson.

[@williamwoodcock8487]

I guess I got lucky, only issue I encountered was first 200 rounds it wouldn’t go fully into battery when dropping the slide on full mag. After break in, great accuracy, trigger is 5lbs flat, and has quickly become a favorite carry gun due to the width. Replaced my staccato C2 for now. Been 100% reliable the last 1000 rounds. Seen lots of people with QC issues though.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I got lucky with a flawlessly functioning Kimber Solo Carry when it was first released. Hopefully, getting my H9 to run correctly is as simple as a barrel and possibly a guide rod swap for mine to be running like a champ! I didn't have any issues with my first 520 rounds...not even the failure to go into battery a lot of guys posted about during the break in period. I'd advise you check your group sizes and make sure they're in line with your normal shooting abilities. I'd also check the target paper or cardboard for signs of the key holing bullets. (If you haven't already done so.). Hopefully your pistol shoots straight! Looking back, I was trying for some headshots when I did my turndown video. I noticed I seemed to be shooting poorly that day. I even missed the cardboard that day. I was only around 30 feet away! After testing the gun's groups, I think I can safely blame it on the gun.

[@joejoe2755]

Loved the pew pew sound effect. 🤣🤣 Thanks for this review. I was excited about this gun, but now I'll have to search for something else.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Maybe give them a while...Daniel Defense has been in possession of my gun since 02/29/2024 for its second trip back for warranty work. It is 04/02/2024. Hopefully when it comes back, it will be running like it was originally intended!

[@beware3586]

It seems like a really cool pistol. But I think I'll wait for the second or third gen before I get one. Thank you for the review sir.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Solid plan!

[@DavidBrown-it9ig]

Damn shame because that is a good looking pistol!

[@Gojeto346]

Just as I was saving up for a DD upper, now I can’t give them my money in good faith. Good thing PSA just dropped their Sabre lineup for their dagger series.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I've not had any experience with their rifles or uppers. The Daniel H9 is my first product experience with Daniel Defense.

[@jojodesal]

Just got one of these and most of the issues you had / have I did not have. My problem is that the slide is so damn low that I need to alter my usual grip such that my thumbs don’t interfere with the operation and cause failures to chamber / lock back. This is really annoying bc I don’t like altering my grip for one gun as that can lead to confusion. Anyway, gonna sell this guy and stick with my p320 compact.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Daniel Defense changed their barrels and is offering a voluntary barrel upgrade for all their existing H9 pistols. That will not change the slide bite issue you have. They’ve had my gun since 02/29/2024 and were silent when I submitted two web inquiries on the status of my gun. I’m going to contact them via phone after 3 months…kinda ridiculous…at that point. In my opinion, that gun was not ready for production. Hopefully when I finally get it back from Daniel Defense, I can have a better opinion.

[@FixtIt]

These companies know their product will be tested on camera and still can't get it right.

[@HollyrockFarm]

It is frustrating.

[@carlh1936]

I was able to replicate your recoil spring detent issue. I'm 500 rds into it with no issues so far. I'll do a side by side with my 365 after the dot I have my eye on available. I'll try some at 30 yds and greater. So far I've used 115 and 124.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I’m not sure if it is good or bad, but so far, all the issues I’ve run into have not been isolated to just my gun. Every issue has been validated by someone else in the comment section with the same issue. Pure speculation, but I think they had a bad batch of barrels…we shall see with time…

[@cooper57m]

H9, strike 2. I wonder if any other company will try to produce one that works.

[@fn6266]

Very informative, thanks! I'll give it another year before I consider one of these. I'm already ironing out a problematic impulse-buy turkish 1911 clone; I'd like to avert parallel drama with a pistol 3-4x the price :D

[@HollyrockFarm]

I think they have a viable pistol if they get some of the bugs worked out. It would be best to wait a while and see if they get it all worked out or if it flops. I think if they can be transparent about the issues and the corrections they can salvage the launch. Best of luck with your gun! It is frustrating any time a gun does not run correctly.

[@winstonchurchill3597]

One thing life has taught me is to never buy the A model!

[@HollyrockFarm]

I paid the GB I want it now tax and took on the initial production run risk...I got bit for sure. Still, I have hopes they'll get it right. Daniel Defense has been in possession of my gun since 02/29/2024 for its second trip in for warranty service. I'll make part 4 once I get the gun back. Hopefully I can give a good report!

[@winstonchurchill3597]

@@HollyrockFarm Bottomline is let some other sucker work out the kinks. I'm sure it will be a duty ready gun once the "gen 2" comes out. I see all the guys bragging about their S&W's with no dash - why do they think they came out with the dash 1,2 etc. - to fix an issue. When you get to the higher dash numbers, it's to make them cheaper. Just my opinion and what gun guy doesn't have an opinion? lol

[@Givmeabrake]

Pew pew pew pew lol. Best part of the video.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm 40 going on 12.

[@BenfromFlux]

Macro is a great option as well - and you can direct mount a full size EPS on it.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I've got a P365...what is one more grip module... My brother-in-law @Freedomfamily740 keeps trying to get me to buy the Sharps Bros. frame.

[@nonjaninja4904]

It is a unique and cool looking gun, hopefully they get any issues sorted out.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Agreed!

[@mrdato116]

And people are hating on Palmetto lol. At least their dagger was fraction of price and biggest problem it had was walking pin on first models. Which was easily fixable.

[@HollyrockFarm]

In my opinion, Daniel Defense should be transparent about what happened and why at least some of their guns had/have issues and what they did to correct it. If they're honest and make it right, I can forgive a lot.

[@mrdato116]

@@HollyrockFarm agreed 💯

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

@@HollyrockFarm Yeah, Tools & Targets swore off Sig after having to deal with their shitty customer service multiple times. It's why I'd rather buy a Ruger because I've had experience with their CS and it's been excellent all around. The H9 is an idea that probably should have been left to die and someone stupidly thought they could cash in on it after Hudson went bankrupt.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@kyrozudesoya1829 It hasn't been recent, but I actually had SIG replace a pistol I had that I was not satisfied with. To be fair, I think that was because I was pulling the LEO card and actually met with their regional rep. I've not had an issue with Sig but unfortunately, I'm well aware of their reputation for beta testing on customers and making unacknowledged rolling changes. I think the Daniel H9 may have some promise if they can get it right.

[@kcgfy81]

Daniel "There is NO" Defense for this.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Hopefully they're just having a production issue. I'm confident they'll make it right.

[@twrol]

… but at DD, there is a social media influencer attached to ever overpriced gun you fire😉

[@HollyrockFarm]

That seems to be the case. A lot of the big guys have featured the H9. It seems they either did not have problems, did not check for problems (like I failed to check for accuracy during the initial 520 round burndown), or failed to mention the problems they experienced. I do know some of the big guys engaged in hyperbole with the H9. Even when DD sends me mine back and it is perfect, it will not deserve the hyperbole given to it by some folks on KZbin.

[@gro24x7]

You’re correct I did try at range ergonomically awesome, got some good shots but others way off

[@HollyrockFarm]

At first I just thought I forgot how to shoot. Then I realized the gun had quirk...

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

All the major gun channels covering the H9 at Shot Show this year....totally not suspicious at all.

[@HollyrockFarm]

It makes sense for them to cover it. I'm a lot more skeptical since none of them seemed to have any of the issues a lot of other people had...

[@Standoffmuffin]

Damn personally, l was hoping for this to be a hit 😢. Oh well cz will be on the Christmas list lol.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I think it may need some time to mature. I'm confident Daniel Defense will get my H9 corrected but it will require patience. The design has some merits to it. Side note, I recently bought an optics ready CZ P-10C. The prices on those are cheaper than blue label Glocks! I'm waiting for my next RMR HD to show up and get mounted before I put it through its paces. My CZ P-01 Omega with the Cajun Gun Works trigger kit is nice. My A01-C from CZ Custom is awesome but heavy. It is 44.1 oz when equipped with a TLR-7A, RMR HD, and an empty magazine.

[@thropolupolus3605]

I don't know about that DD pistol ,but the new gen Glocks hold the round tight as you rack it back. And it's totally normal. There is a groove where the rim of the bullet seats giving it extra stability along with extractor. Hope I explained that right.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I did not measure the weight required to free up that round, but it is significantly more than any other pistol I've handled. If nothing else, it was certainly something out of the normal for me.

[@RattlesnakeDefense]

Its a shame, I am now on the second repair also and I have heard nothing for a couple of weeks. I honestly think they do not know what is causing the keyholing and I think it is more widespread than is known.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I got the same message from the media guy I've emailed back and forth with about the referenced ammunition. I also believe it is more widespread than they want to make out. Jesus tells us to forgive. I can forgive Daniel Defense if this pistol turns out to be a paperweight. I however will not restore a relationship with them without my gun working 100% or a refund. I'd also require an explanation for a full restoration. I have a hard time accepting the claim most of the market place has been positive on their guns. I saw your video when you showed your keyholing after you got your gun back from its first trip for warranty repair. I got a comment from a subscriber and got an idea. I don't want to buy a Hi-Point... kzbin.info6VXIxbJQH1w?feature=share Best of luck with getting your pistol right...keep in touch!

[@1014p]

We are seeing issues for a new pistol best I can tell not seen before. Key hole shots typically found in worn out barrels. Ejection issues mostly dirty gun jamming it up. DD H9 mid-aligning guide rod. Feed issues not totally uncommon usually magazine or feed ramp, ammo sometimes. James Reeves had several fire issues/feed issues if I recall before 500 rounds. This pistol is not ready for market, its bad press at launch. Now seeing the slipping guide rod lock up. Another issue likely to occur is the thin metal lock in piece will sheer off eventually. This part needs a total redesign. The barrel needs a complete redesign, something is not right in its tolerances. All of this for a price you can find at least 5 pistols in $750 or cheaper range with much better build quality and features. They run very well and one underrated $500 pistol is Ruger American 9mm. By the way this list is void of Glock offerings. Outside of Gen 5 changes the rest are outdated and over priced.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I bought a CZ P-10C two days ago. Daniel Defense still has my H9. I'm ok with them waiting to send me one that works properly or sending me a refund check. I'm hoping not to have the same experience as @rattlesnakedefense in his video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWlgaGMpKmKnJYsi=pLg2-LmH1prpSUgA. They certainly have several issues to get ironed out. My comments section has other people backing up all the issues I've experienced so it isn't just my gun that is a lemon. I agree about that little metal tab...if it will not stay in place, how long until it shears off...

[@coalgunsandfreedom6891]

Seems with many of the new models from various manufacturers, that we are the beta testers. And pay a lot of $$$ for that privilege.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm about to opt out of that beta program...unless I buy it for the sole purpose of an honest review...

[@coalgunsandfreedom6891]

I was recently a beta tester for Springfield on their Prodigy. After $300 in upgrades it still wouldn’t run good. After it sheared the ejector and yeeted the front sight I was done.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@coalgunsandfreedom6891 That stinks you were not able to get your Prodigy running after the initial purchase plus $300! My brother-in-law was very interested in the Prodigy. Luckily, he waited just long enough for some KZbin reviews by some honest folks with production models to sound the alarms about the problems. He ended up going with a Staccato and it runs great.

[@coalgunsandfreedom6891]

I think the problems are more with the 5”. Had the disconnector “hang” the slide going forward too. The gun was so slow out of the box, you could watch the action like it was slow motion. Ridiculous. The ejector shearing was final straw. Fk Springfield 😂

[@atomicsmith]

Try the Wilson Combat module on your 365. It was a game changer for me

[@HollyrockFarm]

Way ahead of you my friend...I've been running one for about 18 months. I had to sand down the sides that rests against my MAE (meals already eaten...better version of MREs) and t-shirts. It was a bit abrasive causing abrasion on my skin and it chewed up my t-shirts. I sanded it down a bit and I like the WC module a lot. My brother-in-law, @freedomfamily740, has been endorsing the Sharps metal frame. So far, I'm not willing to drop the cash on it because it would also require a new holster.

[@xxdizannyxx]

How long was dd turnaround time for the rma?

[@HollyrockFarm]

I got the gun back from the first RMA and tested it on 02/26/2024. I filled the 2nd RMA out shortly after midnight on 02/27/2025. I shipped the gun the same day I got the label. They still have my gun as of 03/18/2024…

[@xxdizannyxx]

@@HollyrockFarm a bit long. Thank you sir

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@xxdizannyxx I'd rather them take their time than send my gun back not working 100%, again.

[@xxdizannyxx]

This is why I don't buy first runs on new firearm designs. I don't like to be a beta tester.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Solid plan!

[@deucedeuce1572]

Damn, it really shouldn't matter if the guide rod moves 1/16" to one side or the other. I can't even count how many guns I've seen that have the guide rod slightly out of place when disassembled. The frame causes the guide rod to no longer engage with the barrel once the slide is installed on the gun... so when the slide is removed, it re-engages the barrel in a different spot (not perfect) and that's normal. Yeah, you might not be able to reinstall the slide with the guide rod off center, because it might snag on the frame (if it's too far off)... but when the gun is assembled, it cannot be too far off, because the inner walls of the frame won't let it.

[@HollyrockFarm]

The guide rod issue with the H9 is most likely meaningless. The point that gets me is Daniel Defense sending me the photo with the implication that I had not properly assembled the gun. I'm confident I had it assembled correctly and those photos were not of my gun. Then, my point became, how could they even tell how the guide rod was installed when it does not remain in the proper installation notch? I sent the gun back to Daniel Defense with the chamber flag installed...so the slide had to be free to move.

[@Subtlenimbus]

The way you set the recoil assembly on the barrel ledge shouldn’t be a problem. It’s usually on there just long enough to assemble the gun, and then it sits in the frame instead of the barrel. It appears that it is moving around inside the gun, which IS a problem. As to the keyholing, the fouling and lack of rifling cuts = oversized bore, which is the same exact problem the Hudson version had.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I don't disagree with any of that. Normal guide rods are circular. Their rotation is no big deal. The rotation on the H9 with that tab, that seems like it might be an issue. I also suspect an oversize bore. I'm not a gunsmith but it makes the most sense to me.

[@carlpaladino427]

Wow, I thought they would take the H9 and make better and not worse than the Hudson.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I did not have any experience with the Hudson H9. The Daniel H9 has its merits but it seems there are some issues with some guns. Daniel Defense has been in possession of my gun since 02/29/2024 for its second trip back for warranty work. It is 04/02/2024. Hopefully when it comes back, it will be running like it was originally intended!

[@Dressed2KillTaye]

Just get a Taurus 😂😂😂😂. GX4 Carry specifically

[@HollyrockFarm]

I cannot say I have much experience with the current Taurus handguns. The KZbin claims they're viable!

[@Dressed2KillTaye]

@@HollyrockFarm Besides Glock only company I'll say go with. S&W cool FN Alright besides the obnoxious price. But Taurus second to non nowadays they made their market everyone else trying ti Follow weirdly....

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@Dressed2KillTaye I shot an old Taurus 651 CIA and about had to retain it. I used to have a PT92. I know a guy that has an unknown model Taurus semi-auto that neglects it. It sat in a box for years without cleaning or lube. He brought it out and it chewed through a couple of magazines worth of ammo without missing a beat.

[@Dressed2KillTaye]

@@HollyrockFarm it's worth a Try honestly. Their a "You Can't Go Wrong" type of brand nowadays

[@schneir5]

What, eight pound trigger pull?! That's like mil spec AR trigger bad! Wow! I think the double action pull is lighter than that on my CZ Shadow 2. The single action is only like 3.5 lb and the single action only on my TS2 and Czechmate are about 1.5 lb each. I'm a big fan of CZ 🥳

[@HollyrockFarm]

DD adjusted the trigger and got that handled. I am enjoying some CZ stuff…

[@Philmoscowitz]

Hopefully DD will fix these problems in a few years with a Gen 2 version.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Hopefully they fix mine within the next couple of weeks! If the gen 2 is going to be the thing, I want the 100% trade...send in your gen 1 and get the gen 2 for free!

[@areyou0k98]

Have you been able to try another h9?

[@HollyrockFarm]

Nope.

[@jamesheine6249]

I like the gun. At this point im waiting for the new gun bugs to be worked out.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Solid plan.

[@bigdawg3319]

Any more updates on this? Did you send it back?

[@HollyrockFarm]

Been more than 4 months…Daniel Defense still has it…

[@Gojeto346]

oh man if you want a bigger P365 just get the Macro variant, it’s perfect

[@HollyrockFarm]

It is not the handle length that the Macro would solve. It just almost gets swallowed up by my hands. I'm not going to do a good job describing it other than it just being a bit too small to run. It carries great. I can shoot it fairly well. It just feels a bit small.

[@justinkase7307]

Damn im sorry 😮

[@HollyrockFarm]

Thanks...I'm annoyed but confident Daniel Defense is going to make it right.

[@MegaEmorey]

thanks, love my 2 DD ARs but i guess they need to work on their handguns...ill wait

[@HollyrockFarm]

They acknowledged the keyholing issue and are putting out new barrels. At least wait until they all get fielded.

[@Jusader]

The only noticeable difference I see in the guide rod of the incorrect photo versus walking off the shelf that you're showing is the guide rod does look to be angled in a downwards manner on the incorrect photo, which is consistent towards them noting "incorrect". The walking off the shelf... well, that's honestly probably an entirely unique issue that they're not aware of perhaps due to the guide rod initially being out of whack based on the photos. I'd follow up with them on that. The "slow" ejection issue isn't really a problem unless it's hanging up whilst you're shooting, even with low pressure rounds. I can see where it could be a design ideal that utilizing the momentum of the recoil to push the empty casting into an "ejection notch", in which with enough momentum, will encourage the round of popping out more definitively, which we seen here from the dummy round explanation of giving it the gas. Check chamber for any issues of fouling or issues with the rifling grooves from the chamber inwards. There's something wrong if that projectile isn't spinning properly and giving those kinds of rubs, doesn't seem right in my book.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Daniel Defense received and put my gun in the warranty que in early March. We'll further inspect it when I get it back...

[@Jusader]

@@HollyrockFarm I'll be looking forward to an update video when you receive it back. I like the design ideals of the H9, but it needs to be practical and work for the consumer.

[@chrissinclair4442]

Guess if I ever get one I will wait for Gen 2, or at least 1.2 or 1.3. Sounds like they must be on 1.1 or 1.2 now.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Solid plan!

[@SWM1983]

I will wait for version 2

[@HollyrockFarm]

Who knows if they'll be honest about the issue an the fix. Waiting until you get a bunch of trusted KZbin reviews with positive reviews is a solid plan. Subscribe for part 4 after they return my H9

[@Six_One_Six]

Someone probably shit the bed on barrel specs....like they made the lands .355 instead of the groove....there's no engraving on that at all! Kind of an alarming oversight IMHO. I've never given a dime to DD...they seem like a fad kind of. Can't wait to watch the kool-aid crew make excuses for this...but they're going to HAVE to own it. Personally i'd cancel orders and put it back on GB. You'll never trust it.

[@HollyrockFarm]

If it starts shooting straight and keeps running, I'd be happy to keep it. A lot of guys had issues with FTF and FTE. I've got at least 550 rounds through it and did not have any stoppages. You're right, though. I'll always have a bit of doubt in the back of my mind... Subscribe for part 4. I'll put it out after DD sends my H9 back from its second warranty repair.

[@deucedeuce1572]

Wish I could see the ledge that you're referring to on camera. Hard to tell if it's on too deep, on the right ledge, or not on the ledge at all. I think with Glocks, they have a 2nd ledge that you're not supposed to use and the same with other semi-auto handguns. You can actually compress and seat the guide rod assembly too deep onto the barrel lug. It don't really ever cause a problem though as far as I know. Once you use the gun or rack it a few times and then take the slide off... it's just barely hanging on the ledge like what you show in the video here. Seems to be a common occurrence.

[@HollyrockFarm]

My limited camera skills did not help anything. I'm confident I did not have the guide rod installed like the photo Daniel Defense used to illustrate proper and incorrect installation. I used the gun to dispatch an opossum the night before I sent it back for warranty service. It went through its cycle of operations without issue. I do not recall taking the gun apart after dispatching the opossum. I cleaned it before and I remember debating on ruining a fresh cleaning on an opossum.

[@kevinhullinger8743]

The only real revolutionary pistol out that really works is the RIA 5.0E.

[@HollyrockFarm]

It looks interesting but I've never seen one out in the wild.

[@khmergodhobbies]

at least you got your gun back to use as a paper weight. i sent mine to Hudson and I never got it back. $1200 down the drain. If i knew they were going to go out of business, and not send my gun back, I'd have just kept it as a paperweight. My issue was my gun would drop mag when slide release was dropped.

[@HollyrockFarm]

...and I should never complain again...that stinks.

[@khmergodhobbies]

i'm one of many lol. I call it the H9 CURSE. the problems with hudson's model costed them everything@ockFarm

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@khmergodhobbies I hate that Hudson went out of business. I cannot imagine putting the family's finances at stake and it all coming crashing down. That is partly why I'm a Ramsey guy.

[@khmergodhobbies]

it's a great unique and aesthetically pleasing gun, but there are too many points of failure in this hybrid gun.@@HollyrockFarm

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@khmergodhobbies Hopefully it is just to early to tell!

[@XrayMike17plus1]

Wondering if DD was 'destroyed' by the post-Uvalde lawsiut...

[@Commanderhawke]

It's not left handed.. its correct handed. Everyone else is wrong handed. 😊

[@HollyrockFarm]

Fair enough! If only Staccato could get onboard with that! I'll have a correct (left) handed CS please...

[@215markmark]

Canik cheap shots great no problems For half the price Just like BMW and Toyota

[@HollyrockFarm]

When Canik first started gaining popularity, I was skeptical. They've been around long enough they've got some credibility. I actually referred a friend of my to check out the MC9. He loves it!

[@LLB984]

Everything i've seen on these says not to buy them, if you have money into it get an aftermarket bareII

[@HollyrockFarm]

There will not be an aftermarket barrel if Daniel Defense does not get it right. There will not be a primary-market or an aftermarket!

[@brandon4383.]

This has me worried about the PCC since i heard then say at shotshow the barrels for the pcc are gonna be forged using the same machinery as the h9.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I haven't looked into the PCC. That would definitely give me some pause in pursuing the PCC.

[@brandon4383.]

@@HollyrockFarm the PCC isnt out yet its supposedly coming at the end of Q2 lots of people arent looking forward to it but i was and i want to get one on release so hopefully DD gets the barrels done right

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@brandon4383. You have to hope they stand by it if it does not run. They'd be destroying their brand if they don't make the Daniel H9 and any subsequent releases right.

[@thatjackal74]

Sounds DD has been dropping the ball lately

[@HollyrockFarm]

I hope not. I hate to see companies publicly ride the struggle bus.

[@TheFreedomFamily740]

A Sharps Bros. grip module would change your mind about the P365 being a bit to small... Even has a gas pedal for you lefty's.

[@HollyrockFarm]

This guy…

[@stephencurran3896]

I rented one it keyhole badly

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm a retired cop that has never worked in manufacturing, but it seems to me they had to have a batch of barrels incorrectly made that somehow passed QC. I speculate there was an error on the specs used to make the barrels and to QC them.

[@fkrr5]

Disappointing to say the least

[@genX68]

On the guide rod ?? Opps.

[@HollyrockFarm]

No worries

[@kevinfox1780]

Honestly its always a mistake to buy a weapon the first 2 or 3 years of its production. You should send it back, relax and take a chill pill.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Someone has to be the early adopters or there won't be an adoption at all! I understand what you're saying. I waited with the P365 until they got the striker drag and broken strikers worked out before I let any of our officers get them for their off-duty guns. I made doggone certain they were manufactured after (I cannot recall the date of the rolling change) rolling change before I issued them out. I got the H9 back from its first warranty service on 02/26/2024. I shipped it out to Daniel Defense the same day I got the label from them. They've had it in their repair que since 03/04/2024.

[@Dressed2KillTaye]

Daniel is Overrated....

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm neutral on that. The Daniel H9 is my first Daniel Defense product. I'm cutting them a lot of slack for the initial product launch. I'm still fired up it had to go back for a second time.

[@Dressed2KillTaye]

@@HollyrockFarm naw man if their PREMIUM they need to act PREMIUM. Budget guns are more Reliable i just made a video speaking on stuff like this. It's a Gun no Slack is to be cut

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@Dressed2KillTaye I'm a fan of using tools for their purpose. My CZ Custom A01-C does not like hard primers with the light springs. I can change the springs and get the hard primers to reliably ignite, but it costs me the awesome trigger pull. I don't get mad at guns with limitations as long as the trade off is worth the restriction and the restriction is know. It would be like getting mad a Porsche doesn't run on 87 octane gasoline. That is not the case with the Daniel H9. It should reliably fire everything and shoot straight without limitation. It is a factory (not custom) gun with the company selling concealed carry holsters on their website. If the purpose is defense, it needs to be judged accordingly. Hi-Points shoot straight and I believe they still come in under the price of the Taurus offerings.

[@crankskinatra6038]

Military contracts trick fudds and military larpers

[@nickwalters9311]

It's what our special forces use. They are plenty good and not even overrated. Overrated is Glock and only glock💀

[@coldandaloof7166]

My first question is how do you put 500 rnds through a pistol and NOT notice the key hole issue?

[@HollyrockFarm]

Well, in today's market, I've never personally seen a pistol have accuracy issues. When I ran the burndown, I rushed to get rounds through the gun for reliability testing. I ran all 520 rounds as fast as I could with the limitation of only having three magazines. If you watch the burndown, you'll see my target had a big hole and some outliers. I never bothered to check for keyholding until I heard about it from a subscriber and went to check. I still have the burndown target. There is evidence of oblong "keyhole" shapes instead of nice round ones. I figured the outlier rounds were just me being me with the occasional bad trigger press. (It should be noted my gun had a gritty and heaver than spec trigger before I sent it back the first time.) The Daniel H9 is the first pistol in my 22 years of handling pistols that didn't shoot straight. Accuracy testing is now going to be part of my protocol.

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

All guiderods move around under recoil. They aren't supposed to stay in the exact spot you install them in for reassembly. Not saying yours isn't messed up, only that the guiderod is gonna move around and the channel is designed simply to hold it in position so the gun can be reassembled without the guiderod interfering. A glock guiderod will not be in the same place after either when you shoot it and then disassemble it, but typically not left or right, but up and down.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I’m not sure if I accurately showed it, but the H9 has a tab that sits in a grove on the barrel. It is more of an “I” shape than an “O” shape like most other guide rods. An “O” can rotate without too much trouble. Rotate an “I” shape less than 180 degrees and we have an issue.

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

@HollyrockFarm I'm inclined to believe the guiderod is not an issue whatsoever, as it has limited functionality and it's doing exactly what it is designed to do. I think the person responsible for looking at your gun at DD is just an idiot. My glocks do the same thing. The guiderod is never in the assembly position when i disassemble them after shooting. Yours might possibly be moving more than is typical, but it doesn't seem to be affecting anything operationally so I'd like to see an H9 that doesn't do this as a comparison. Seems the spring weight might be underpowered, and the hood of the slide around the front of the ejection port "locking" area might be too far back to eject a loaded cartridge correctly. Seems there is definitely some issues, but I don't think the guiderod moving is the root cause. I could be wrong, but just my opinion from what I see through video.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 I'm not sure if the guy that checked my gun at Daniel Defense was an idiot...it is possible. When I get my gun back from Daniel Defense I'm going to do a part 4. Hopefully I can give it my endorsement rather than further condemnation. I'll certainly explore the guide rod positioning. The spring weight may be underpowered. When I did my 520 round burndown video, the brass was ejecting like it was an AK...the brass almost needed its own backstop. That is obviously an exaggeration but it was noticeable.

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

@HollyrockFarm well if that's the case, I'd say the spring weight is probably ok, and the main issue is a dimensional tolerance problem with the slide and/or barrel. I think the guiderod is a non issue, until I see evidence otherwise. I've seen guiderods literally broken in half and the gun still functions fine and it was only discovered the guiderod was broken when disassembling to clean the gun.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Fair on the guide rod...the 1911 is a prime example of one not necessarily being required. It stands to reason if the bore is not correct then the notch for the guide rod tab on the barrel might just as easily be a couple thousandths too shallow allowing the rotation. The rotation may not be a factor for reliable operation…but it was a factor for their technician!

[@chrissinclair4442]

As far as the keyholing, I would bet DD wasn't happy with the recoil reduction and has over bored the cal to make it less recoil. Only my speculation but I never understood the fad of reducing performance with a barrel instead of powder.

[@HollyrockFarm]

Interesting concept. I’ve heard of porting the barrels after short lengths to reduce velocity but never making the bore oversize intentionally to reduce recoil.

[@chrissinclair4442]

@@HollyrockFarm it was a fad back in the 80s and 90s. Shot guns did over boring as well as lengthened forcing cones, but then I started hearing about pistols. I don't know if people started doing because they heard it in something like movies/TV and producers thought you could do it with pistols or what. I just thought it was stupid, think even a Punisher movie mentioned it in the early aughts. In a shotgun it can improve a pattern and I guess help with recoil. If over boring helps with recoil though it affects performance I'm sure.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@chrissinclair4442 It would be great of Daniel Defense would give a credible explanation other than referencing mainstream ammunition as being the problem.

[@chrissinclair4442]

@@HollyrockFarm yeah, it doesn't matter if it's politicians, government agencies, news media, employers or manufacturers, no one gives credible explanations. God I wish I was stupid and happy.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@chrissinclair4442 If it is up to Klaus Schwab, we will all be.

[@ChrisKartes]

Ditch the gun! Don't waste anymore of your Time, Money or Energy on that thing. Chalk it up to an expensive learning experience. You got the one made on a Friday before a holiday weekend.

[@HollyrockFarm]

We'll see how it shoots when it comes back from the factory a second time. I have a problem selling it knowing there is a problem. I may be able to sell it anonymously but I still know I would have done someone dirty. That is not how I operate.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

Just get an X-Macro TacOps. Put a threaded barrel on it if you want the added ballistics.

[@HollyrockFarm]

They got me with the fully ambidextrous thing on a 1" thick gun. I wanted to finally see how the right handed folks get to use the slide stop/release lever vs. my slingshot method.

[@markcassidy1428]

So the ejection problem only happens when you do it slowly with your hand..........

[@HollyrockFarm]

It seems you were making a joke or not listening…🤣

[@nicholasnissen1547]

So seems like Daniel Defense learned a thing or two from Sig. Beta test guns on customers.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I'm not sure they meant to...but it sure seems like it. I wish they'd take a note from Desert Tech with the MDR/MDRX and just publicly acknowledge what happened and the fix.

[@nimbusR0234]

You still haven't gotten yours back? I'm going on 3 weeks on my second RMA myself. Odd given some other posters claims that "only a few guns have been returned with problems".

[@HollyrockFarm]

They've had my gun for its second trip in for warranty repair since 02/29/2024. As of 03/23/2024, I don't have my gun back. They can take another couple of months if they send me the gun back working 100%. The media guy I emailed with gave the same canned response. This is an excerpt. "I very much appreciate you and your concerns. Please do know that my teammates are all hard at work, and we are not ignoring you or the rest of our customers. Below is what I can share with you. - We have received minimal follow-ups of the H9s that are in the market place with the overwhelming majority being extremely positive - There is a theme with most of the issues falling into the exact ammo that is being referenced - We very much appreciate any and all feedback and commit to exceed our customers expectation and stand behind every firearm with a lifetime guarantee"

[@jim99west46]

DD probably is regretting their choice to make this pistol.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I currently feel the same regret for buying it... It gets worse when I get comments with other people having the same issues. I still have hope something was manufactured out of spec, made it through QC, and there is just a bad batch rather than having a bad design.

[@jim99west46]

@@HollyrockFarm it should feed and like a normal pistol should. The bbl issue is just so lame eveb hi points dont key hole but the guide rod problem is just bad design slash toerance issue see iif DD will take it back and give you a credit for one of their rifles. Just so you know DD majes the bbls for HK rifles sold in the US so they def know bbl qc stds. But this pistol could be using a subcontractor made bbl we dont know.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@jim99west46 I brought up the lack of the keyhole feature with Hi-Points when I filled out my warranty claim online! I also sent them a link to this video. I just hope they can make it right. I hope Daniel Defense gets it all squared away and DD and the gun have a long track record of success with this just being a bump. I asked one of their media guys some questions. We'll see what comes back.

[@jim99west46]

@@HollyrockFarm if your media guy cant resolve the issye to your satisfaction let me know. I have decades in the industry and can aporoach execs at the top of the pyramid.

[@HollyrockFarm]

@@jim99west46 Thank you! I just watched this video today and it has me hoping not to get my gun back until they get it shooting all mainstream 9x19 SAAMI and NATO spec ammo without any keyholing issues. I got the same message from their media guy. I hope for everyone's benefit they get the issues worked out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWlgaGMpKmKnJYsi=n5LgERFXtk-9juOe

[@XrayMike17plus1]

It sounds like DD is better at making rifles than pistols. Why is that? Why did DD customer service not test for and find that the recoil assembly was walking off the seating notch under the breach block? Did they create a pistol division and hire a bunch of idiots to work in it? Did they hire a bunch of hudson people they shouldn't have? WTF.

[@HollyrockFarm]

I can only assume the guy in the warranty department took my gun apart, saw the guide rod was not installed correctly, and then assumed I was an idiot and sent it back without further investigation. I cannot say I blame him. I was a cop. Sometimes, you cannot see the forrest through the trees. It is too easy to roll up to a call, find an obvious problem, solve the obvious, and miss things because of a pending workload. I can only assume the technician had a stack of pistols across from him and fixed the obvious and moved on to the next one. I'm not sure if any of the folks from Hudson moved on to Daniel Defense. I called about the trigger before I sent it in for its first warranty repair. The guy I spoke with seemed like we could easily sit down and sip bourbon. The rest of my interactions have been via email or their website. So far, I'm not upset with their customer service folks. I sent Daniel Defense a link to his video with my online warranty claim submission. Their media guy said they reviewed it and sent it on to their engineers and leadership. If all that is true, there will not be a good excuse if the gun has issues when I get it back.

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

All guiderods move around. The assembly notch is only there to keep it aligned for reassembly. A glock does the same thing, but not this badly, so this may or may not be an issue. I'd say it's probably not, though, because its only purpose is to send the slide back into the battery, and it's doing exactly what it's supposed to do. The guiderod is only there to keep the spring from binding and kinking up. How do people not know this?

[@history.rhymes]

Fani and Nate aren't fit for service either

[@HollyrockFarm]

It was cash...

[@nimbusR0234]

What did DD have to say for this second return?

[@HollyrockFarm]

I used the website for the RMA. Their media guy said he shared the video with their engineers and leadership. He said he was confident episode 4 would be positive. He was also happy I was hopeful rather than giving up on DD in the comments. *I’ve got less than 500 subscribers. I’m not even a gnat on an elephant to them. They don’t pay or compensate me in any way. I paid $1,399 for my Daniel H9 off GB.*

[@nimbusR0234]

@@HollyrockFarm That's good to hear. I'm with you, I don't see any reason to give up on the gun - even though I'm also dealing with my second RMA. I believe everyone has the best intentions until proven otherwise.

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@@nimbusR0234 After 15 years as a cop working the road, I usually start from the opposite...suspect everyone until they check out. I'm working on it. I believe DD will make it right because a couple of thousandths of an inch in the barrels can mean success or keyholing. The guide rod issue is likely either the guide rod or again the barrel being out of spec. DD has every incentive to make things right and have a redemption story rather than have a long lasting black eye.