Solving the Mystery of the Lost Roman Legion | History Hit Series

[@notenoughodinson5912]

I live in Silchester, I always go on walks around the Roman Wall, it's stunning. What's left is only the foundation of the inner wall and when you realise how thick the walls were and how big the gates were, its astonishing to imagine it in its full glory. Its never lost on me and I recommend anyone to go and see it

[@WisGuy4]

Thank you for the comment and description of Silchester. My family lived in the UK for three years when I was a teenager and while I got to see a fairly impressive portion of the entire British isle, there is much that I wish to go back and revisit or see for the first time. In the course of watching these various KZbin videos on British history and historical places, I’ve been compiling a list of castles, houses, ruins, and other attractions to visit and the list has gotten quite extensive. I have added Silchester to that list. In fact, that list has grown so extensive that if I am to see more than a portion of those places, I believe I will have to spend an entire summer trekking around Britain. In 5 to 7 years when I retire that trip will probably be my retirement present for myself.

[@mickuljatheseagull]

The beauty of history is that it can change in an instance. New discoveries, new theories, don´t you just love it.

[@snafubar5491]

And don't forget the old version being changed by learning how the winners lied/suppressed the truth/destroyed/hidden. Then we have things like Piltdown Man. Grains of salt all around.....no???

[@magicpyroninja]

I forget where I heard it said but history is the birthright and beautiful treasure of all of humanity And I think one of the biggest sins you could commit against humanity is destroying or hiding our history from us

[@duggdog9102]

Yes the latest is York had a wholly black population and stonehenge was also built by their relatives ,

[@magicpyroninja]

@@duggdog9102 black people were the original native population of every continent. White people came from space and ruined everything. You didn't know this

[@andybanov4319]

@@duggdog9102 You forgot about the trans element who founded York

[@Neilhuny]

The Eagle of the 9th was my introduction to history, too!! A great book that led to a life-long interest in Iron Age to Saxon era history ie Roman Britain, give or take a bit

[@nickstone3113]

Me too .. Sutcliffe amazing writer. I read as a kid and adult and found I was still fully engaged as with her other novels in series and wider.

[@brianshea4177]

I was lucky enough to visit her w my father and a first edition of Sword at Sunset. She signed it and it's next to a whole shelf of her books. Wonderful memory.

[@Neilhuny]

@@brianshea4177 THAT is bluddi fantastic! I am very jealous/impressed/delighted for you. It may well have a good financial value but the value of the memory of the visit and having the book signed by her is far greater.

[@cyndiknapp4904]

I love how these speakers have entire textbooks of information committed to memory and can share it in such an exciting and informative manner.

[@erspassky8891]

Obviously Chat GPT. Have you heard of this chat GPT.

[@erspassky8891]

You see these guys that have chat GPT accounts dont have to indicate they got all these information from chat GPT, i am not really sure if this is considered plagiarism

[@hawk55732]

​@@erspassky8891What are you going on about?

[@hawk55732]

​@@erspassky8891What are you going on about?

[@manfredconnor3194]

They script these things, you know?

[@Luna-rs6rs]

I just love the storytelling of these style of documentaries. "we have a mystery, now lets figure it out!", and in the end they are "We still have this mistery, we didnt figure it out, but we had lovely interviews and had our moderator walk through grass and muddy scenery while gesturing wildly."

[@philroberts7238]

Your implication, if I understand you correctly, is that the articulation of such mysteries, therefore, is a waste of our time, because there are as yet no clear answers. I disagree with that view.

[@Luna-rs6rs]

@@philroberts7238 I would disagree with that view, too. What I meant to imply, and I am sorry if that came across the wrong way, is, that this set-up, this style of documentation is a very often used one, and I often find amusement in the fact that, in such mystery documentations, for the sake of entertainment, the authors pretend to going to solve a mystery of which they already know by the time of editing, that they didnt solve it. Also, the implication of them, as a documentation format, will be more capable of solving that mystery than experts since a hundred of years, and they are now needed to present the topic to the same experts, is a way of storytelling that I find very amusing when I watch these documentations. Because, lets be honest, already by the opener most of the audience will already know, that the mystery will not be solved but rather presented to a new audience, but nonetheless we play along and wait for their answer to the mystery, of which we already know, we won´t get.

[@Luna-rs6rs]

I edited my original comment, maybe its more clear now. @@philroberts7238

[@philroberts7238]

Fair enough - and I'll add my apology to yours for the trace of snidery in my post.@@Luna-rs6rs

[@ChrisPbiker]

Wishful thinking replaces archaeology in today's universities, evidently.

[@fosterfuchs]

Reading "The Eagle of the Ninth" to a 6-year-old. This is how you get kids interested in history! I salute you, Tristan's dad!

[@Luna-rs6rs]

I study history, and the amount of students who were either inspired by the Eagle of the ninth, or the ancient greek mythology and legends is huge.

[@julianshepherd2038]

I read it as a kid and went on to steal eagles.

[@MJM-BS3]

It was on the Radio when I was a Child many moons ago. I fell in love with Romans and History. True or not, it has a real pull. All thanks to Rosemary’s book for opening the door to a wonderful world.

[@JayM409]

She actually wrote three stories about Roman Britain, The Eagle of the Ninth, The Lantern Bearers, and The Silver Branch. They have been collected into one volume titled Three Legions.

[@elizabethannegrey6285]

My childhood reading!

[@thalleseduardo8041]

I got introduced to history, when I ran away from my colleagues' bullying and went to the library where they couldn't beat me, there I found a book by Alexander the Great, from then on my love for stories only increased to the point that today I am an archaeologist in the my country Brazil.

[@antonycooper9141]

Bullies don't tend to use libraries lol they to dumb

[@viorelpiscanu9425]

Hi there! Greetings from Bucarest ROMANIA 🍀... I am big fan of history, British is one of them...😊

[@cas4554]

Romania has an interesting history too😁

[@viorelpiscanu9425]

@cas4554 Indeed... A multimillenar history... 🤝😊✨

[@gregedmand9939]

One of the best series of novels written about Rome and Roman Britain were the "Veteran of Rome" series by William Kelso. The fate of the Ninth that makes most sense to me is: weakened by events in Britannia the remnants were shipped off to support the Empire's critical needs. The use of Vexillations, this way, was a common practice. Without a strong patron actively seeing to have it built up to its past glory could have led to it never being reconstituted. Rather than one simple reason for its disappearance, it's most likely a combination of these factors.

[@michaelsmyth3935]

The 9th was closely tied to the Claudio-Julian dynasty. No wonder it was not rebuilt, but rather broken apart.

[@davidbell1619]

Worn away by attrition.

[@jeremiahedwards3475]

I was thinking that the Vexillation on the Rhine was probably the remnants of IX Hisp and used Leg VIIII on the tiles. This was also used for the few people on their tombstones, in lieu of IX Hispaña. The Vexillation survived for a while and without a patron, the members were moved to other legions

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

yeah, not unlikely that somewhere is a document where someone wrote down the edict that the IX. is officially disbanded. It might've been on paper that long decayed, or on stone or clay that is still waiting to be found. And by that time the remains of the legion might already been split up to support other troops elsewhere, making it basically a paper army that only existed in documents.

[@Andy_Babb]

I loved this on the app but if I’m honest, I like having both episodes together into one full length episode. Tristan is one of my favorite historians along with Matt Hughes

[@R2Zmedia]

A story that has captivated me since I was about 10 years old (a long time ago) also courtesy of Rosemary Sutcliff. I hope the truth comes to light whilst I'm still around to hear it! The romantic in me hopes that the book got it right!

[@nickstone3113]

Ditto me

[@wandapease-gi8yo]

The book “The Eagle of the Ninth” seems to have started a number of people into archeology and the common interest in The Romans in England. I remember reading it in the sixties.

[@KarenSFrancis]

Loved it too!

[@a44489]

i see real wars of the past. very roman scenes.

[@a44489]

sandy area, sunny temple like steps close by. was the birds eye views from minds eye illusions

[@a44489]

showing people attacking romans were black dressed, and the one roman kicking ass had a special type helmet different from the others.

[@IrishEye]

they went over the Scottish border and discovered whisky. No mystery why they never came back.

[@alanadair4893]

Maybe tried to drink whiskey Without paying😊

[@rockchalkv]

Brilliant!

[@TheNordicharps]

There we have it 😊

[@chrisburton9645]

These are Roman soldiers. They may have discovered the secret of deep fried steak pies and just decided to take early retirement there . . .

[@kamon830]

the border of the Picts the Scots had not invaded until later

[@JuanGonzalez-hv6vs]

I was there 2,000 years ago as part of the IX Legio; we fought the Caledonian, but it was useless. We asked for reinforcement, but Cap. said no, many of our legionnaires were killed, and the few that survived decided to desert to the mountains. Not to mention, the Brigantes were hunting our heads; as you all know, those barbarians were head hunters, and so we had to run and hide. Later, we intermarried with local Britannia women, had a family, and became farmers. We blended with the local populations. When legions came looking for us, we hid and remained hidden. We enjoyed our peaceful farming working life, as did our wives and kids.

[@kelrogers8480]

Loony.

[@soultraveller5027]

@@kelrogers8480 Interestingly, US general George S Patton famously known for his belief in ''Reincarnation'' he believed he lived many lives many guises thought history of mankind and after his death he would once again be reincarnated once again, Patton was once asked while dining with allied commanders notably by british field marshal Alexander CnC of the mediterranean theater of war ( as in the film ) if he thought he was one of Napoleon's Marshals he uniquely ''replied of course field marshalls''. He also strongly believed he was reincarnated though many famous military figures , including General Hannibal, Roman legionnaires , greeks and others thought the military history of mankind. He's poem ''Through the glass of Darkey'' gives a little glimpse of his thoughts of reincarnation in more detail

[@kelrogers8480]

@soultraveller5027 your comments, are nonsensical ! People have always believed silly things, including Patton. Ridiculous nonsense that means nothing. If anyone had subjective morality, it was old George! Ask the soldier he punched. Vainglorious ass!

[@soultraveller5027]

@kelrogers8480 Hey muppe, if you can't hold a civil tongue, and if you want to go down that path with me, I will induged too you donk key brain numpty,. Banter is my game aswell ok matey

[@soultraveller5027]

@kelrogers8480 Hey muppe t if you can't hold a civil tongue, i will return it don't get too sure who your texting big boy

[@IanLawrie-l9q]

Fascinating and well presented, with intriguing mystery 👍👏👌

[@steveb4012]

Outstanding programme. The story of the The Ninth Legion is a mystery thats interested me since i was a teenager, along with JFK and the Titanic.

[@MelEveritt]

Love seeing Tristan present. Keep up the great content. 😊

[@justme8837]

I just love that Europe doesn't destroy all their history and just work around a lot of them.

[@monkeytennis8861]

What are you on about? Europe isn't one homogeneous place

[@erinobrien8408]

Huh?

[@augustushotel1737]

Europe is light of the world and reference point

[@Antonio-j1g]

it's destroyed now by millions of illegals migrants

[@chekkat8956]

​@@augustushotel1737 You just need to take your medications on time pal

[@simonwelch1664]

This is excellent. Love the style of presentation and all the speakers are first class 👍

[@Indigenous-English-Man]

I live in Sheffield and there is a hill fort in a area called wincobank which is believed to be a Brigante one. It’s amazing standing up there thinking of the native Britain’s fighting off the 9th. The Peak Districts hill forts would have also been controlled by them as well.

[@grievousangel7742]

i consider Eagle of the Ninth and The Daughter of Time to be the books that gave me my love of history. And the fact I'm York born and bred made Eagle of the Ninth compulsory reading!

[@Bethi4WFH]

Great to see 'The Daughter of Time' mentioned. I already loved history when, 60 or so years ago, in my 20s, I read that wonderful book by Josephine Tey. It made me a life long supporter of Richard III and I still have a copy of his portrait hanging in my home!

[@grievousangel7742]

@@Bethi4WFH l have that same portrait! As a proud Yorkist l have a rose of York tattooed on my ankle with the words "Loyaulte Me Lie" above it!

[@lindaross783]

I read that book about Richard III. It was wonderful. Also, We Speak No Treason by Rosemary Hawley Jarman. Fair.interpreted of King Richards character.

[@Dav1Gv]

What a fascinating video. It was very nice to see the evidence being presented by experts and the tentative conclusions based on that evidence properly weighed and considered. Too many popular presentations seem to feel they have to present an unexpected conclusion.

[@peaches8829]

Could it simply be a case the 9th was disbanded and it’s troops use to replenish the other Legions ? That’s happened may times in history with other armies.

[@danpeterson114]

That could have been the case several decades later as to the Legion's eventual disappearance, but there is plenty of evidence now that the 9th simply departed Britain fully intact, to take up their next assignment at the Roman fort at what is now Nijmegen, Holland. See my post above, or the Wikipedia article about the 9th Legion to learn more.

[@kopynd1]

exactly

[@NightShooter87]

That's what I believe happened.

[@fitzfitzchivalry4538]

No, there would have been records of that, like how we know it's happened before in other armies, because its recorded. Dummy.

[@fitzfitzchivalry4538]

​@@NightShooter87because you're smarter than all these historians? 😂😂😂😂

[@Westworld1950]

Great documentary. Will we ever know for sure?

[@madiantin]

Edit: 55:30. "Exceptionally sanguineous". what a great word!!

[@dremarley4388]

Just rewatched the movie Centurion this week.

[@JohnTLyon]

If you enjoyed Sutcliffe's book, check out the film, "The Eagle" Adapted from Sutcliffe's work, it is really quite good!

[@nickstone3113]

Yes it is good .My only quibble is the shaven heads of the caledones but that said good film. Enjoy.

[@isabelled4871]

Eww I didn't like it at all 😬

[@Jayne22]

It was also a BBC series in the late 1960’s or 70’s, not sure of the exact date but I remember watching it. That’s how I got into History.

[@merlin8514]

An astounding documentary 👏

[@LQOTW]

Excellent show. And one of the best channels on KZbin.

[@markbackus1449]

Quite interesting theories on the demise of the Ninth Legion. Very good documentary film.

[@tomreed-oe7hi]

Interesting history...you Brits have some great story tellers

[@Neil-f9c]

British are really English Welsh. Scots just joined a union with brits

[@Neil-f9c]

Watch 41 mins on. English gave in. Scots in North fight on

[@ziggy6848]

If you are American or Canadian, this is your history too.

[@tscully1504]

Eagle of the 9th did it for me too. But for me it was picking up one of my son's books. Loved The Shining Company too. Good survey of all the evidence on the 9th, several which were new to me. One thing I do know is old Momsen's opinion is always worth listening to.

[@belindawebber5359]

OMG. I read that book as a 10 year old, which started my love of history. That was 42 years ago. No one I have met has ever read it! Thank you!

[@Digeroo123]

I was given a copy by my Aunt as a teenager must be 60 years ago. It was a World Book Club edition. So I guess most of the people who originally read it are now in their 70s and 80s. Like the guy in this video it gave me a life long interest in Roman History.

[@belindawebber5359]

Once you get bitten, that’s it!

[@paulcope1415]

I read it in junior school bout 58 years ago forgotten all about it till I saw this KZbin video.

[@alanwayte432]

Same here and I am 58, I also asked some colleagues about the Biggles books again ..nothing

[@tonymarkey6525]

Loved the book and recently reread

[@manfredgrieshaber8693]

Theodor Mommsen also analysed the collection of roman coins owned by the family von Bar. Their farmers had collected a huge amount of roman coins while plowing in the region east of the city of Osnabrueck in Germany. In 1892 he published his analyse and suggested that the battle of the Teutoburg Forest must have taken place in that area. Now we know Mommsen was right (see the objects in the Museum of Kalkriese). It's therefore possible that Mommsen was also right when he said the 9th Legion had been wiped out during an uprising in York.

[@Kaz.Klay.]

They've been excavating and finding amazing things... gruesome to be sure.. but still stunning

[@danpeterson114]

@manfredgrieshaber8693 Actually there is no definitive proof that the main army of three Roman legions was wiped out in the area around Kalkriese, despite what the Osnabruck regional tourist board would like you to believe. Yes, there was some military action between the Romans and Germans in this vicinity, but not nearly enough artifactual evidence toestablish this was the main battlefield. The Roman historian Tacitus stated that at the same time the main battle too place, the many other detachments stationed in the region were also overrun, and this was apparently the case at what must have been the case at Kalkries - a small Roman outpost along an important route used for centures. The earliest archaeological reports prove that rather than this being the random site of an ambush of Roman forces marching through the area, in reality it was a kind of roman outpost along a road as proven by the postholes left by the buildings, as well as large pieces of pottery and even parts of furniture that simply wouldn't be carried at the head of a Roman Army. When they say that hundreds and hundreds of Roman artifacts were found, it is very misleading, as most of these artifacts were tiny fragments like boot nails. It might have been that only one Roman Cohort of approximately 400 men were stationed at this spot, and they were overrun by a much larger German force. From the actual Roman accounts, Kalkriese is too far from the known departure point of the Legions, to be the actual site of the main battle. This is just like the "Lost 9th Legion" Mockumentary we are discussing here -- the German "experts", just the British ones in this video, are deliberately hiding the evidence to keep their popular myths, though at least in the German case, the Legions really were destroyed by their ancient ancestors, unlike in the 9th Legion myth where they simply left to assume a new posting at the Roman fortress at Nijmegen in the Rhineland. I must admit though, that it was a tremendous thrill to actually hold and even peer through the eyeholes of the famous Roman mask from Kalkriese, when it was in a temporary exhibit in Rosenheim, where I helped with some of the other displays in the exhibit!

[@manfredgrieshaber8693]

@@danpeterson114 : Scientists from the Deutsche Bergbau Museum Bochum, Leibniz-Forschungsmuseum für Georessourcen and from the Kalkriese Museum published the results of a new research project on the 16th November 2022: They analysed very small parts of microminerals in many remains of roman equipment found in Kalkriese. They managed to identify a kind of individual chemical fingerprints in all those objects. The main result of this project is that there were a lot of small metal pieces found in the Kalkriese area which belonged to the equipment of men from the 19th legion former stationed in Dangstetten in the south of Germany. And the 19th legion had been wiped out in the battle of the Teutoburg forest. So this is the final proof that the battle took place at Kalkriese as a legioners equipment used to be maintained with local available materials. Small remains in Dangstetten and in Kalkriese show exactly the same specific chemical fingerprint. No other example of any remains except from this legion contains this chemical fingerprint.

[@MrLantean]

The theory that the 9th Legion got wiped out by the Caledonian Picts was proposed by Theodor Mommsen either the late 19th Century Ce . At that time, the last known location of the 9th Legion was in present day York where they were reconstructing a military fortress in stone and the confirmed date was 108CE. Then in 1956, archeologists excavating the remain of the Roman fortress in Nijmegen, Netherlands discovered several tiles dated from 104CE-120CE which bore the stamp of "LEG HISP IX" inscribed on the reverse and a silver-plated bronze pendant, found in the 1990s, that was part of a phalera (military medal) which also bore the stamp of "LEG HISP IX". Also AN altar to Apollo which dated from the same period, was found at nearby Aquae Granni (Aachen, Germany), erected in fulfillment of a vow, by Lucius Latinius Macer, who describes himself as primus pilus (chief centurion) and as praefectus castrorum ("prefect of the camp", i.e. third-in-command) of IX Hispana. These discoveries indicate that the 9th Legion may have been relocated to Continental Europe though some historians argue that it is a detachment rather than the entire legion got relocated. After these discoveries, the trail had gone cold.

[@Kaz.Klay.]

@@MrLantean quite interesting in either case... I can feel more argumentation coming

[@patrickquinlan8825]

It’s really a testament to how good Romans were at documenting things that we don’t have more legions that disappear from history like this

[@JuanGonzalez-hv6vs]

Wasn't the movie The Eagle about the IX Legion being gone as well, besides trying to find the Eagle?

[@cheekyuk7785]

The film is based off the Eagle of the ninth legion book that they talk about in this video.

[@jakethomas3205]

Great stuff!

[@peregrinemccauley5010]

You know, I sat here for one hour , unknowingly being subject to other's egos.Bring back Rome.

[@michaelbinney9913]

This story of the V1111 reminds me of the lost legions of Varus in V1111 AD.

[@Za7a7aZ]

I live in the netherlands ...in nijmegen and there are diggs and roman finds from time to time. Its a pitty people are not permitted to search with metal detectors anymore without a permit..Because the increase of finding some interesting roman or WW2 stuff for the world to share has decreased significantly.

[@indiana-dani]

some laws are meant to be broken

[@Exostars77-A]

They discovered bonny Scottish lasses “coming thru the rye”. Settled down. Together created 2 new Scottish clans, the MacNinths and the McLegions. The rest is history.

[@vanessarubinidellarovere]

🎉

[@donnyyanavich4720]

You da best Anna''Keep up the good work you do

[@GlasgowCeltic88]

If anyone wants a good, quasi-somewhat-fictional, read about The Boudican Revolt: Give Simon Scarrow's Eagles of the Empire series a read. Specifically his last 2 books: "Death to the Emperor" & "Rebellion".

[@stephkadwell4767]

Yes and K.M. Ashman's The Roman Chronicles. Damn fine fiction.

[@nicoladorman1619]

For me it's Douglas Jackson's Rome series

[@michaelmazowiecki9195]

I read Eagle of the Ninth as an 8 year old soon after it was published. This historical novel has shaped perceptions on the 9th, especially in the UK. I suspect it could be as misleading as Ridley Scott's films!

[@elizabethannegrey6285]

Excellent.

[@milesanddizzy]

There's archaeological evidence that the IX Legion was first transfered to southern Holland, then onto the Parthian border, where it might have been destroyed in 167AD

[@viocastorulcalator5664]

But never in 167 :) In 166 the Romans crush the Parthians and burn their cities in Mesopotamia (Iraq) and Media (Iran). This may be the one legion with which a governor advanced at the beginning of the conflict in 161.

[@RonTodd-gb1eo]

Some think that from the way the “9” was written on pottery it was an associated auxiliary unit not the full legion that was moved to what is now the Netherlands. Before that auxiliary units were moved to the Rhine so not unlikely units were also moved to the Low countries.

[@danpeterson114]

Definitely a yes in regards to the Legion's departure from Britain intact and subsequent stationing at the Legionary fortress at Nijmegen, which the "experts" of this Mockumentary had to have known, but shamefully withheld in order to keep this popular British myth alive.

[@Crispvs1]

@@RonTodd-gb1eo A lot of genuine legionary inscriptions look amateurish in comparison with inscriptions by training sculptors.

[@mariacquintero6438]

Where in Holland?

[@TravisBrady-wn8fr]

Very interesting.

[@user-tk5fi1my5i]

Rosemary Sutcliff also wrote a book called The Shining Company. It’s more of a young adult book, but it’s a great book. I’m 40 years old, and it’s been one of my favorite books since I read it when I was like 10-11 years old. I actually just got the book for Christmas and I’m reading it again right now. If you a fan of Sutcliff, I recommend reading The Shining company. Rosemary Sutcliff is a great author.

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

I love The Eagle of the Ninth

[@markinglese3874]

Great job, guys. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. Did the British have their own written language at this time?

[@megw7312]

Of course they did! Haven’t you heard of Cymraeg?

[@markinglese3874]

@@megw7312 No!

[@megw7312]

@@markinglese3874 Is that a … never heard of it?

[@megw7312]

@@markinglese3874 Cymraeg is now called ‘Welsh’.

[@megw7312]

@@markinglese3874 The ‘Egyptian’ hieroglyphs are readable using Cymraeg.

[@zdenekoldrichmarek2867]

There are two Gravestones above SASBACH near Breisach in the Blackforest next to the River Rhein.The stones show the buried are from the Legion Britanicus ,which I think had the remanents of the 9th Legion.They are to be found on the hill behind the Guesthause at Sasbach next to the River Rhein. This is a corner of Germany with a lot of history,well worth a visit after research.Famous French General in the 16-17th Centuries.and abattle was nearby. Also next to the Kaiserstuhl is a small town claiming GEORGE and the DRAGON ! There is a lot more.BE BLESSED😃😃

[@DJL78]

Beautifully done! ❤ Tristan.

[@abnurtharn2927]

I could listen to Lucy Creighton for hours.

[@kenijonesESQ]

Great episode thanks

[@randylahey1822]

The ninth legion could have easily been merged and whatever writings of it gone lost over time, seems like a needle in a haystack thing. It didn't disappear over night, the paper trail is lost and that's it. I find the whole Claudian Invasion way more intriguing than the endless search around the Mediterranean of a lost legion.. Still a good upload tho! Thanks

[@IronWarrior86]

The Agricola wrote down his victories and avoided documenting his defeats. It's more than obvious to me the 9th legion was nearly wiped out in the attack on their fort. The Name or Legion number may have been reconstituted later though.

[@vanessarubinidellarovere]

Not true

[@lindaross783]

5000 men and no archaeological evidence, not even a shield. Odd no transport logs to other places? Great program!

[@robinfra52]

My theory is they were mostly wiped out in Scotland and the story of Agricola rescuing them is a a cover story. The Romans may have transported the bodies back south to hide the defeat. So soon after Boudica news of losing another legion would have been politically untenable. Roman officers were very political creatures.

[@christophernicolson5086]

Normally if that was the case they wouldn't use the legion number again, but I think they continued with using 9th for a long time. My hunch is that there was an unknown redeployment that hasn't been discovered yet.

[@shane3906]

Excellent video! I think you are correct personally. I think they were almost destroyed if not wholly destroyed in the north of Britain. When that happened, they were either disbanded or rolled into the 6th.

[@tedtimmis8135]

Last summer, I saw some ninth legionaries at a gas station in Kalamazoo.

[@rosanneshinkle4133]

Haha, bravo!

[@thebritexiteer7956]

Good enough for them! I say it looks very much like they ended up feeding the forest like several other legions that crossed the roman wall.

[@mikebarrow157]

Excellent film!!!👍

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

I think they said "screw this cold rainy rock in the North with its grey skies" and just retired in Florida.

[@towgod7985]

What if after suffering a near defeat at its night camp, it was simply disbanded into other units, replaced by the 6th legion and all records destroyed to avoid military humiliation?

[@nunyanunya4147]

CONGRAGULATIONS! YOU DID IT! A WINNER IS YOU!

[@robertmastnak581]

Very interesting fakts. Thx

[@GordonDonaldson-v1c]

The Maetae did for the 9th on that traditional killing ground, the Carse of Stirling.

[@frankjoseph4273]

Is there a way to find out about the battle with the Ordvician and Silures?

[@loquat44-40]

Excellent

[@cammacgregor9354]

I'm surprised none of the "experts" suggested that due to the dismal performance of the 9th that night in Scotland, some egotistical Roman Senators demanded no further mention of the 9th because it was "an utter disgrace and would be an embarassment to even think of them". Hence, the 9th was banned forever from the lips of future Roman discussions. The remaining 9th legion members from that night were immediately relocated to other places. And the 9th disappeared forever. Thoughts from a dumb-ass old cowboy here in remote West Texas about to drink another Shiner Bock.

[@raz1926]

They called Obelix Fat! That was the end of the Ninth Legion.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

LOL exactly 👍

[@johnfeltes7614]

Love this obscure reference: also precisely what happened

[@zorglubmagnus455]

‘To future historians, we have disbanded the 3rd janitorial team for the night shift at Morganne Pierpont Bank. They all went home or found another job. They didn’t disappear. Thank you.’

[@Tapioca674]

Legio III Janitorus

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

35:51. Hadrian's wall seems redundant next to that cliff.

[@amandaholsonback6307]

I love the Doctor Who episode about the 9th Legion 😍

[@rockchalkv]

Why is the legion sometimes referred to as IX and alternately as VIIII?

[@marthahawkinson-michau9611]

Simple variations in how the numerals were written down. Originally Roman numerals for nine were written as VIIII, but at some point this was changed to IX. If it’s directly from an ancient Roman inscription, then it’s just differences in individual Roman’s educations. If it’s from a presenter, then it may be them referring to the inscription, quoting an inscription, or attempting to describe a hypothetical inscription. One of the units of the ninth legion was particularly known to stamp their building materials with VIIII, and others used IX.

[@danpeterson114]

Both ways of writing this number by the Roman's themselves is not unusual, though usually on monuments the more formal way is VIIII. We also see the 14th Roman Legion use both styles to make their number (XIIII and XIV), on surviving clay building tiles, though the most common way is XIIII.

[@rachelhenderson2688]

IX is much easier to understand immediately than VIIII which you have to count to make sure it's not VIII @@marthahawkinson-michau9611

[@peterblake4837]

Showing of their wealth of scholarship - no shortages of stili here.

[@BigZebraCom]

I know I left that Legion around here somewhere.

[@nikkipdx4109]

This fits my view which explains why Britain is so heavily influenced by Rome and why Britons ancient history has been eradicated. Where as Ireland and Scotlands was still alive and Briton continued to try to eliminate it with a skill level that could only have come from Rome. All those highly skilled educated men so skilled in building empire just decided to stay in Briton and become lords.

[@sugarnads]

'Scotland' didnt exist until long after the end of the roman empire.

[@sugarnads]

And Everyone living in the island prior to the roman invasion were 'britons' the entire island is fkn britain. They all spoke variations of the same language. Youre slapping entirely different times together like it was all the same era. No. Just no.

[@markmanning8832]

@33:07 - Isn't that bad Roman? The VIIII? Shouldn't that be IX? Just wondering.

[@schneeweisser261]

I think it is very interesting but there is talk about the 9th nlegion. You show tiles with Legio VIIII on it. but isn't 9 in Latin not IX?

[@teamshaboobalu2887]

Julius Cesar's 9th Legion knew he was an epileptic. & never thought any less of him as a leader.

[@qarljohnson4971]

Wasn't this doc about the Ninth Legion released a month or so ago? It seems that History Hit needs to rerelease its catalog of docs every 18 months or so? Based upon the frequency of repeated Mary Beard Roman docs on YT.

[@hhvictor2462]

Pretty cool for an ancient Roman standard bearer to be remembered almost 2,000 years later. And I supposed those types were paid well to be able to afford a memorial. Hazard duty pay lol

[@iamericandavinci]

Britannia has always been that bright red cherry on top of the Roman Empire cake of reign.

[@Aron-79]

Respect ✊🏻

[@DebbiSmelser]

So is Hadrian’s wall a protected site all the way across the country? It’s just that there at the end you can see houses built right beside it and I can’t imagine you would be able to keep kids from playing on it. I know I would have been climbing all over it as a child.

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about Roman Empire 9th legon and their's building of York City in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 0 71 AD ..by Roman Empire government .....122 AD 9th legon vanished ?

[@sydneysmith1521]

I heard a tale about a Roman legion sent to explore the border between Egypt and Lybia. This legion is supposed to have disappeared from history. Would you do a feature on this incident? Thank you.

[@danielcarson4122]

Wasn’t the PICTs and Scottish up North setting up to battle the Romans?.

[@danielcarson4122]

The 9th got decentimented

[@danielcarson4122]

A legend of the Pictish peoples is whoever went in never came out

[@seanhomar5945]

I live at wincobank, an area of modern day sheffield and here we have a Brigante hill Fort, one of three throughout the south yorkshire region. Not much evidence of continuous occupation which leads people to believe it must have not been finished in time for when the romans came by? It has been set on fire as the ramparts are shown to have been burned ? I wonder if the 9th passed by and attacked or found an empty fort so torched it?

[@Bluezoon1]

Best video ever

[@MuhammadAbdullahMukhtar-xk2nb]

Yes

[@AbdullahMukhtar-c7o]

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[@ContentMountainGoat-pb3xy]

Day to get personal knowledge

[@ContentMountainGoat-pb3xy]

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[@geegnosis8888]

Why a "boys own" story. I was a 11 year old girl when I first read it in 1964. Every girl in my class also read it. Some liked it, some didn't. But it sure inspired me. Rosemary Sutcliffe was also a 'girl'! This is now 21st C. and times have changed.

[@wilsontheconqueror8101]

Boy you feel for those 2000 Roman soldiers facing off against Boudicas 100,000! Rough odds!

[@nadiasmith2650]

200 strong male bodies were found in a crypt of a church in Wales there was no damage or clothes on the bodies

[@jayfelsberg1931]

27:50 - The guys probably were resting after dinner, armor off, some dozing off. Scrambling for their weapons as a horde of screaming Scotsman storm into the camp. I'll bet head (literally) rolled over this mess.

[@davidgray7421]

Have you heard stories of people hearing the eerie sounds of this legion marching through one of the valleys of the Lake District. It’s where the A591 runs north of Thirlmere

[@sterrissar]

eagle of the ninth was the beginning of my live of history

[@teddy1066]

The “lost” 9th legion was never “lost”. It returned to the Continent and was disbanded shortly after. People love a good yarn and the legend is certainly more intriguing than the truth. That said, the legion was disbanded. There are numerous instances of legion disbandment and/or amalgamation with other legions to keep up the numbers. The only thing “lost” was the administrative records documenting this legion’s disbandment.

[@loddude5706]

A gnarly old Scot told me; the legion sent a runner back to Braco (Ardoch) from their last known camp at Lixtoll, Perths. & were never heard of again - A clue in the name?

[@Garwfechan-ry5lk]

Go and look at the Burial stones between Neath ( Nidum ) and Bontfaen ( Bonium) there have been 14000 Burial stones counted with Roman Markings .

[@jimorr5580]

Just got to love how they call Scotland the North of Britain lol

[@sugarnads]

Well it IS northern britain. Britain is the entire island.

[@jimorr5580]

@@sugarnadsThat’s the Roman name for England and Wales

[@lachlan1971]

They opened a chippy in Dundee.